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[Results added]GSKILL 6400HZ BLACK SP[56k warnning]
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Nice sticks. :banana:
Do you have a day planned out for when we might see your results with the DFI RD600?
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DFI RD600......oh open up a thread for that separately dude....that's probably more interesting to many guys than the ram :p:
g.skill black pcb = nice
is there any difference aside from colour?
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it seems RD600 catches more eyeballs than this ram, lol
the tests will be done next week or hopefully this week.
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RD600! Show now! =D
Nice ram by the way, but six sticks?
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i can take 2 off ur hands to test on my 4600+ cfx3200m2/r board!! lol
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wow cool :toast:
New black pcb 8 layers? :D
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Originally Posted by GrimReaper
New black pcb 8 layers? :D
I was wondering the same, I hope that it is 8 layer. :)
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HZ getting even better???..stuff the Dumbinators,these ARE worth buying?
Meandering thought/
I think G.skill has a better binning process at default level than the rest,consistency wise they make the grade with the HZ's
/end meandering thought.
And now these ,that have been hand picked?..and how much more over the reg. HZ's?
Please not rip off prices that are going on all over the shop....
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Originally Posted by thebeast
HZ getting even better???..stuff the Dumbinators,these ARE worth buying?
Meandering thought/
I think G.skill has a better binning process at default level than the rest,consistency wise they make the grade with the HZ's
/end meandering thought.
And now these ,that have been hand picked?..and how much more over the reg. HZ's?
Please not rip off prices that are going on all over the shop....
yup, they are hand picked, they are 350usd per pair, but you wont see them all over the shop. Coz they are limited edition.
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Thats an excellent price,from this side of the pond anyhoo's,i just need place that'll send em here :(.
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Originally Posted by thebeast
Thats an excellent price,from this side of the pond anyhoo's,i just need place that'll send em here :(.
yup me too :(
Handpicked and 8 layer pcb or the regular 6 layer ?
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350 usd is for China mainland which is higher than USA and Europ, sooner or later Newegg will have them for sale at 304 usd, but probably just a small stock and i'm still not sure whether newegg has this black edition or just reg HZs for 304 usd.
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Originally Posted by GrimReaper
yup me too :(
Handpicked and 8 layer pcb or the regular 6 layer ?
dont know that yet, but im pretty sure that they are better than reg green pcb, it hits 650fsb with 2.8-2.9 vdimm.
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Gskill here i come :D :D :D
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which P5B Deluxe bios you using ? nice but do can you show the other cpuz tabs as well including cpuz cpu, spd and mainboard tabs and memset timings as well :)
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Originally Posted by eva2000
which P5B Deluxe bios you using ? nice but do can you show the other cpuz tabs as well including cpuz cpu, spd and mainboard tabs and memset timings as well :)
Yea, that'd be one amazing P5B.... :stick:
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Those are nice handpicked sticks you got there but what is the average oc you are getting with the other sticks
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They're definite above average sticks i have 3x sets of 2GB 6400PHU2 HZ 0629 on P5W DH deluxe no mods
2x sets to 533mhz 4-4-4-12 at 2.4v
1x set does 540mhz 4-4-4-12 at 2.4v
interested to know what the other 2 sets of the black PCB versions do as well
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And i'm still trying to get hold of these somehow :(
I tried G.skill Tai. ..a Gskill tech here and no replies so far.Bugger. :(
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Originally Posted by kemo6600
Those are nice handpicked sticks you got there but what is the average oc you are getting with the other sticks
these 250 pairs are all handpicked or should i say chips were handpicked, we got 3 pairs, so this result means average performance. We just picked one pair and did the test.
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Originally Posted by eva2000
They're definite above average sticks i have 3x sets of 2GB 6400PHU2 HZ 0629 on P5W DH deluxe no mods
2x sets to 533mhz 4-4-4-12 at 2.4v
1x set does 540mhz 4-4-4-12 at 2.4v
interested to know what the other 2 sets of the black PCB versions do as well
How do i find out about week/stepping numbers?...ie if i ask a supplier where do they have to look?
Great results,looks like i'll just have to go with the reg. HZ's,the specials are as rare as rocking horse sh/t.
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I have the same sticks and get 555 5-5-5-15 2:3 @ 2.35(bios).
I may have to try 4-4-4-12 @ 2.4.
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I just order a pair..waiting for them to arrive :D
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Originally Posted by thebeast
How do i find out about week/stepping numbers?...ie if i ask a supplier where do they have to look?
Great results,looks like i'll just have to go with the reg. HZ's,the specials are as rare as rocking horse sh/t.
serial number first 4 digits i.e. 0629 = week 29, 2006, 0648 = week 48, 2006
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Originally Posted by WilliamWu
these 250 pairs are all handpicked or should i say chips were handpicked, we got 3 pairs, so this result means average performance. We just picked one pair and did the test.
mm I thought you just bought three of that special kit and posted the best result dint know that they are special order any way what is your max @ Cas 3
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Originally Posted by mele
I have the same sticks and get 555 5-5-5-15 2:3 @ 2.35(bios).
I may have to try 4-4-4-12 @ 2.4.
where did you guys order from? :eek:
will g.skill ship me 1 of these if I pay them?
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Originally Posted by GrimReaper
where did you guys order from? :eek:
will g.skill ship me 1 of these if I pay them?
I think that guy got the regular HZ
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Originally Posted by eva2000
They're definite above average sticks i have 3x sets of 2GB 6400PHU2 HZ 0629 on P5W DH deluxe no mods
2x sets to 533mhz 4-4-4-12 at 2.4v
1x set does 540mhz 4-4-4-12 at 2.4v
interested to know what the other 2 sets of the black PCB versions do as well
are the F2-6400PHU2 with black PCB? :confused: How do I know which ones have the Black pcb? :confused:
I NEED THIS MEMORY! :D
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yes i'll second that ^^ ps where in the UK or europe sell these?
i would like some if i could buy them.
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Originally Posted by eva2000
serial number first 4 digits i.e. 0629 = week 29, 2006, 0648 = week 48, 2006
you mean first 3 numbers as there is no 0 before the 6 on my sticks.
Are D9GCT good clockers?
http://users.tpg.com.au/xtreme_i/6401.jpg
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Originally Posted by X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE
you mean first 3 numbers as there is no 0 before the 6 on my sticks.
Are D9GCT good clockers?
GCT are the budget D9's, binned below GMH.
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Originally Posted by X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE
you mean first 3 numbers as there is no 0 before the 6 on my sticks.
doh for the life me been quoting 0629 for ages when it should be 629 LOL
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Originally Posted by GrimReaper
are the F2-6400PHU2 with black PCB? :confused: How do I know which ones have the Black pcb? :confused:
I NEED THIS MEMORY! :D
Nope mine are regular...
http://i4memory.com/6400phu2.jpg
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Originally Posted by EnJoY
GCT are the budget D9's, binned below GMH.
Mine are GCT and they are orthos stable so far at 550MHZ 4-4-4-12 2.4v
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Originally Posted by X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE
Mine are GCT and they are orthos stable so far at 550MHZ 4-4-4-12 2.4v
Never said they weren't good, just explained what they are. ;)
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Originally Posted by EnJoY
Never said they're good, just explained what they are. ;)
yeah i know i was just pointing out that they are doing good. in the ram list the HZ are shown as GMH and i had 2 pairs go bad that didn't overclock this good at 444, but did 623mhz 5-4-4-15
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Originally Posted by WilliamWu
350 usd is for China mainland which is higher than USA and Europ, sooner or later Newegg will have them for sale at 304 usd, but probably just a small stock and i'm still not sure whether newegg has this black edition or just reg HZs for 304 usd.
The retail black editions are averaging around 1020~1067 on 975X with 2.3V and about 1110~1120 on the P965 at 2.35V (not SuperPI 1m stable, talking long term game stable). The retail sticks are only warrantied to 2.3V. There were several special edition versions of this memory sent out for "reviews" if you want to use that word. If you have the "right" P5B-D along with enough voltage to destroy the DIMMS in a few hours, you too can hit 1300. ;)
I am sorry, but the lengths that some people will go to "advertise" a product around here is getting silly. Nothing against G.Skill at all as they have excellent memory, just tired of people showing numbers that will not be attained on a 24/7 basis with products bought from retail channels. :mad:
Also, the statement about the RD600 being held due to BIOS issues is false. :fact:
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Originally Posted by bingo13
The retail black editions are averaging around 1020~1067 on 975X with 2.3V and about 1110~1120 on the P965 at 2.35V (not SuperPI 1m stable, talking long term game stable). The retail sticks are only warrantied to 2.3V. There were several special edition versions of this memory sent out for "reviews" if you want to use that word. If you have the "right" P5B-D along with enough voltage to destroy the DIMMS in a few hours, you too can hit 1300. ;)
I am sorry, but the lengths that some people will go to "advertise" a product around here is getting silly. Nothing against G.Skill at all as they have excellent memory, just tired of people showing numbers that will not be attained on a 24/7 basis with products bought from retail channels. :mad:
Also, the statement about the RD600 being held due to BIOS issues is false. :fact:
My retail HZ are doing 550mhz 4-4-4-12 2.4v Orthos blend stable
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Originally Posted by X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE
My retail HZ are doing 550mhz 4-4-4-12 2.4v Orthos blend stable
Exactly what I stated the retail kits would do on a P965 board (P5B-D), some a little better, some a little worse. However, I found in order to play BF2 or Q4 online for a number of hours that the timings had to be relaxed to 5-4-4-12 on average and the memory kept at 2.35V unless you add a little cooling.
While Orthos or SuperPI stability is nice, it does not match the demands of actually running a memory intensive game, folding, or doing video/audio conversion/creation work over a period of hours or days. :)
My real point in all of this is that there are a few limited kits that are going to do 1300 and the P5B-D has to be modded to get the volts to do it. Just looking for the facts to be laid out about the test bed, settings, and the product supplied up front so people do not assume when they order this kit from NewEgg that the memory is going to hit 1300 at 2.3V. ;)
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Originally Posted by bingo13
Also, the statement about the RD600 being held due to BIOS issues is false. :fact:
:eek: :eek:
Whats up with that?
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Originally Posted by bingo13
The retail black editions are averaging around 1020~1067 on 975X with 2.3V and about 1110~1120 on the P965 at 2.35V (not SuperPI 1m stable, talking long term game stable). The retail sticks are only warrantied to 2.3V. There were several special edition versions of this memory sent out for "reviews" if you want to use that word. If you have the "right" P5B-D along with enough voltage to destroy the DIMMS in a few hours, you too can hit 1300. ;)
I am sorry, but the lengths that some people will go to "advertise" a product around here is getting silly. Nothing against G.Skill at all as they have excellent memory, just tired of people showing numbers that will not be attained on a 24/7 basis with products bought from retail channels. :mad:
Also, the statement about the RD600 being held due to BIOS issues is false. :fact:
im not advertising anything, i dont work for g.skill nor DFI. Since you say what im saying is fake, prove it. There are tests for G.skill had been done by a professional media press in China, if you doubt it, contact ENET. There is also a review by SHAMINO in TAIWAN, check it yourself or at least release some tests results from what you have done. Speaking of RD600, where do you get your information? Just say what im saying is fake and that's it? go and contact DFI by yourself to see whether im wrong.
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Tony told people on the forum that RD600 is ready except for heatsinks
NO bios issues so i guess he's probably referring to that
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@Grim and Pie...i tried to get hold of this memory through a couple of channels,even G.gskill itself and ive had no replies.i tried Memory-configurator.com and they dont now anything about it and they are in contact with G.skill every day.
My conclusion is it's 'stealth' market recognition,these are sent to certain peeps,on different forums all over the world and pushes HZ's and gskill itself to the top of our wish lists...it's certainly great memory,as i have said in a previous post,they certainly have high rate/good quality RAM with more consistency,but it really peeves me that joe public wont see the light of day with these.
Sorry for being so political...lets enjoy the numbers. :)
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I think this is the best i can do with my normal set.
550mhz 4-4-4-12 2.45v bios - 2.40v windows - 40 minutes blend orthos - Dual channel
CPU-Z verification
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=145309
http://users.tpg.com.au/xtreme_i/13333333.jpg
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Mojom@n, what's vfsb/nb volts at and memset timings ?
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Originally Posted by WilliamWu
im not advertising anything, i dont work for g.skill nor DFI. Since you say what im saying is fake, prove it. There are tests for G.skill had been done by a professional media press in China, if you doubt it, contact ENET. There is also a review by SHAMINO in TAIWAN, check it yourself or at least release some tests results from what you have done. Speaking of RD600, where do you get your information? Just say what im saying is fake and that's it? go and contact DFI by yourself to see whether im wrong.
1. I have tested both the retail kits and the "special edition" modules, both delivered from G.Skill for review. My entire point is that the normal retail kit will not reach the same levels as the special edition kits. The "special edition" kits still need around 2.6V+ to reach 1300 "24/7 stable" on the P5B-D. The P5B-D also requires the Vdimm mod in order to do it but running at that voltage will destroy the memory in less than a couple of weeks. This should not take away the fact that the retail kits are very good and are excellent overclocking modules for the money, they are just not 1300 good out of the box at the warrantied voltage of 2.3V.
2. I know the test results you posted are true (did you want to answer who actually did the testing and why memset shots are not included) but it would be nice to list out the test setup specifications and exactly how 1300 was reached with modules that will not be available widely in retail. Otherwise, a lot of people will assume the retail kits will do 1300 out of the box. They will not be pissed at you, but instead at G.Skill and that is not fair. ;) Whether or not you are advertising is up for debate, but seeing how the post was arranged and used "special edition" modules I would say it was at least on the level of a press release. :D
3. My information about RD600 is directly from DFI so I know what the truth is at this time. The latest BIOS I am using on the board is R6TDC08 with a build date of 12/07/06. :fact:
4. Shamino's last official review of G.Skill memory was on the F2-8000PHU2 (1GB, 2x512MB, ) kit that hit 1230 (edit) at 2.7V. His review also informs us of the test bed, modifications, and what he had to set his system at in order to hit each memory speed. :toast:
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Originally Posted by eva2000
Mojom@n, what's vfsb/nb volts at and memset timings ?
all settings on auto or by speed..Only settings that i changed for the ram was 4-4-4-12. here is what my memset looks like in windows without touching any settings 500mhz 4-4-4-12.
http://users.tpg.com.au/xtreme_i/555555.jpg
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... not going to comment on anything else here, but just letting you know, Gary, that you need to read Sham's last HZ review one more time :)
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Originally Posted by bingo13
4. Shamino's last official review of G.Skill memory was on the F2-8000PHU2 (1GB, 2x512MB, ) kit that hit 1130 at 2.7V. His review also informs us of the test bed, modifications, and what he had to set his system at in order to hit each memory speed. :toast:
... it was DDR2-1230 5-4-4-4.0 @ 2.7v, not DDR2-1130 --> linky. I remember he also had 8500 kit @ DDR2-1240, 2.7v a while ago, on AM2... Only Sandra screenies, but hey, just correcting you...
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Originally Posted by bingo13
1. I have tested both the retail kits and the "special edition" modules, both delivered from G.Skill for review. My entire point is that the normal retail kit will not reach the same levels as the special edition kits. The "special edition" kits still need around 2.6V+ to reach 1300 "24/7 stable" on the P5B-D. The P5B-D also requires the Vdimm mod in order to do it but running at that voltage will destroy the memory in less than a couple of weeks. This should not take away the fact that the retail kits are very good and are excellent overclocking modules for the money, they are just not 1300 good out of the box at the warrantied voltage of 2.3V.
The retail version has a warranty up to 2.3v? The gskill website says 2.1v
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Originally Posted by thebeast
@Grim and Pie...i tried to get hold of this memory through a couple of channels,even G.gskill itself and ive had no replies.i tried Memory-configurator.com and they dont now anything about it and they are in contact with G.skill every day.
My conclusion is it's 'stealth' market recognition,these are sent to certain peeps,on different forums all over the world and pushes HZ's and gskill itself to the top of our wish lists...it's certainly great memory,as i have said in a previous post,they certainly have high rate/good quality RAM with more consistency,but it really peeves me that joe public wont see the light of day with these.
Sorry for being so political...lets enjoy the numbers. :)
@the beast cheers for that man, well at least i'll stop looking for them now i know the truth behind them, i knew it was to good to be true.
that said where can i get a good pair of regular HZ ? do you know if mem config will pick you a good pair if you ask for a specific serial number etc ?
cheers dude
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Originally Posted by bachus_anonym
... not going to comment on anything else here, but just letting you know, Gary, that you need to read Sham's last HZ review one more time :)... it was DDR2-1
230 5-4-4-4.0 @ 2.7v, not DDR2-1130 -->
linky. I remember he also had 8500 kit @ DDR2-1240, 2.7v a while ago, on AM2... Only Sandra screenies, but hey, just correcting you...
I fat fingered it, changed my number. Thanks. :D However, the kits were the 8000, 2x512MB, and not the 6400, 2x1GB kits being shown here. ;)
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I just got in a 2G kit of there 8000HZ, yummy..:toast:
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I hate threads like these..........:rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by bingo13
1. I have tested both the retail kits and the "special edition" modules, both delivered from G.Skill for review. My entire point is that the normal retail kit will not reach the same levels as the special edition kits. The "special edition" kits still need around 2.6V+ to reach 1300 "24/7 stable" on the P5B-D. The P5B-D also requires the Vdimm mod in order to do it but running at that voltage will destroy the memory in less than a couple of weeks. This should not take away the fact that the retail kits are very good and are excellent overclocking modules for the money, they are just not 1300 good out of the box at the warrantied voltage of 2.3V.
2. I know the test results you posted are true (did you want to answer who actually did the testing and why memset shots are not included) but it would be nice to list out the test setup specifications and exactly how 1300 was reached with modules that will not be available widely in retail. Otherwise, a lot of people will assume the retail kits will do 1300 out of the box. They will not be pissed at you, but instead at G.Skill and that is not fair. ;) Whether or not you are advertising is up for debate, but seeing how the post was arranged and used "special edition" modules I would say it was at least on the level of a press release. :D
3. My information about RD600 is directly from DFI so I know what the truth is at this time. The latest BIOS I am using on the board is R6TDC08 with a build date of 12/07/06. :fact:
4. Shamino's last official review of G.Skill memory was on the F2-8000PHU2 (1GB, 2x512MB, ) kit that hit 1230 (edit) at 2.7V. His review also informs us of the test bed, modifications, and what he had to set his system at in order to hit each memory speed. :toast:
1: that p5b-d is vdimm moded, otherwise it wouldnt hit 1300, but i dont think i have to metion that and also nobody asked. It's like i overlock a E6600 to 4.8G and other ppl would think it is air cooled? We are not primary school boys right?
2:in the other thread, i gave all the pics of these G.skill rams, one of them clealy shows that the waranty volt is 2.3.
3:I said something about RD600 because in another thread is said i was going to test the rams on RD600 which is retail version, that's why i said something about RD600. Also DFI did say they can't ship the pre-ordered retail mobos last week due to bios issues. Maybe the bios they have now is not good enough for retail according to their standard. My information is different from yours doesnt mean it's FAKE.
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Originally Posted by pie_uk
@the beast cheers for that man, well at least i'll stop looking for them now i know the truth behind them, i knew it was to good to be true.
that said where can i get a good pair of regular HZ ? do you know if mem config will pick you a good pair if you ask for a specific serial number etc ?
cheers dude
Here's all you need to contact Mem-config.com..just ask for a good week number.
http://www.memory-configurator.com/p...ontact_us.html
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my g.skill 8500hz @ 2.525 v on a asus commando
max ss
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=157611
does 624mhz 4-4-4-5-4-35 1m :D
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Hey bingo, i appreciate what you are doing here... you contribute tons and im a big fan of all of your articles.
but i feel like its pretty clear that this is special edition stuff, its also pretty clear that he put 2.9v into the memory to get this performance.
If people can't read that, then it's thier fault, not G.Skill's. I find it hard to believe that people would purchase PC-6400 and expect greater then 9600 speeds out of it. But they CAN expect this to be an above average 6400 set.
I for one just enjoy seeing the results. :) And if there were a time where i wanted to break a record, i know where to look to find memory that performs well under extreme conditions. Thats what makes this XS.
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I was told the black PCB of 6400hz are Crucial Ballistix.
I opened up my friend's(purchased in Korea) to make sure and they were indeed covered in black by G.skill.
I am about 99% sure these are the Ballistix in disguise;)
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Originally Posted by k00lance
I was told the black PCB of 6400hz are Crucial Ballistix.
I opened up my friend's(purchased in Korea) to make sure and they were indeed covered in black by G.skill.
I am about 99% sure these are the Ballistix in disguise;)
G.Skill makes thier own modules, many manufacturers use thier own color PCB's. So having a black set of ballistics with GMH and a black set of HZ with GMH is just coincedence. I'm sure you can find black mushkin and black ocz of GMH as well.
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Originally Posted by Revv23
G.Skill makes thier own modules, many manufacturers use thier own color PCB's. So having a black set of ballistics with GMH and a black set of HZ with GMH is just coincedence. I'm sure you can find black mushkin and black ocz of GMH as well.
That's what I thought as well. It is something obvious at first but my friend in Korea related to G.skill insists on telling me that the black PCB version is actually Ballistix. If you look closely inside the ram, there's a spot marked in black which says Crucial. I believe him since he has the samples and the retail version of both.
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Originally Posted by k00lance
That's what I thought as well. It is something obvious at first but my friend in Korea related to G.skill insists on telling me that the black PCB version is actually Ballistix. If you look closely inside the ram, there's a spot marked in black which says Crucial. I believe him since he has the samples and the retail version of both.
hmm ok, fair enough...
which ballistix set does this relate too? surley we cant expect this performance out of the 6400?
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Originally Posted by k00lance
I was told the black PCB of 6400hz are Crucial Ballistix.
That is correct. Some of them even show it in their SPD. :)
Doesn't matter much, though. They still perform great and Crucial's SPD isn't the worst out there.
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Originally Posted by Revv23
hmm ok, fair enough...
which ballistix set does this relate too? surley we cant expect this performance out of the 6400?
Crucial PC5300
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Is 2.3v too much for these rams? I seem to have killed mine on an ASUS Commando.
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my recently purchased HZ has the black PCB.. but it also has a different heatspreader design.. =D
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I picked up a pair of HZs last week and noticed a difference in spd settings compared to a pair I got back in February. Trc looks pretty high for the new sticks. These new sticks have the black pcb and new style heatspreader.
Anyone else who recently purchased these sticks have the same spd settings in the first screenshot?
new sticks
http://www.forsocal.com/skpc/forumpics/gskill-2.gif
older sticks
http://www.forsocal.com/skpc/forumpics/gskill-1.gif
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Hey Scottk,
My recently purchased HZ's have the new style heatspreaders, though i have a lower TRC then you. Mine seems to be sitting between OP's and yours.
My TRC is at 24.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...puz_spd_hz.png
but i noticed that when i leave TRC as AUTO in bios, it gives it a TRC of 18. This is on my P5N32-E btw..
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spookz
Hey Scottk,
My recently purchased HZ's have the new style heatspreaders, though i have a lower TRC then you. Mine seems to be sitting between OP's and yours.
My TRC is at 24.
but i noticed that when i leave TRC as AUTO in bios, it gives it a TRC of 18. This is on my P5N32-E btw..
Thanks for the reply spookz. CPU-Z does report my "actual" Trc as 18 on my BX2, even if the SPD shows 36, and the BX2 doesn't have allow setting of Trc.
