New Core 2 Duo E6850 results

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12-02-2006, 04:15 PM
OverclockTR

New Core 2 Duo E6850 results

New Core 2 Duo E6850ES week39 tested by OverclockTR

System:
. Core 2 Duo E6850ES
. ASUS P5W64WS-Pro Bios Rev305
. Corsair 2x512MB 8500UL
. Leadtek Xtreme 7600GT SLI
. Be Quite 600W SLI PSU
. Cpu cooling by single stage (evap:-40C )
. Cpu vcore: 1.55v from bios

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9101913

Asus mobo not change cpu multiplier , normally cpu unlocked 6-20 from bios . Default multiplier 9 *333fsb (1333fsb) . 4.25ghz not max for this cpu , because 470-475fsb max for mobo..

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6794/1cs3.jpg

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8333/21fq3.jpg

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7895/3vo6.jpg
12-02-2006, 04:21 PM
TrancëJay

Nice results :toast:
12-02-2006, 04:36 PM
Supertim0r

w00t, 3ghz default :slobber:
12-02-2006, 04:51 PM
Ziwro

Hehe Wonderful .:toast:
12-02-2006, 05:00 PM
nugzo

Quote:

Originally Posted by OverclockTR

New Core 2 Duo E6850ES week39 tested by OverclockTR

Is this Retail? If so where can i get one!
12-02-2006, 05:03 PM
Makubex_GB

Quote:

Originally Posted by nugzo

Is this Retail? If so where can i get one!

See the "ES"?
12-02-2006, 05:39 PM
freecableguy

Stepping 9 - Core 2 is only getting better ;)
12-02-2006, 05:47 PM
Phosphate

Quote:

Originally Posted by freecableguy

Stepping 9 - Core 2 is only getting better ;)

It looks like moving the stock FSB to 333 is improving the maxium CPU frequenxy as well.

When was the e6850 and the 1333 FSB C2Ds foing to be released. I remember seeing this info recently but forgot the details.
12-02-2006, 05:52 PM
shogo_ca

why isnt it named 6900? are they planning to go 3.2ghz with an upcoming chip ?
12-02-2006, 06:39 PM
cpulloverclock

Nice :)

Change the mb for a P5B-E + or P5B dlx :)
12-02-2006, 09:19 PM
Charloz24

Now let's hope there will be stepping 9 1066 fsb conroe.
12-02-2006, 09:24 PM
dinos22

oh they're already out

nice going but if 4.2GHz was with single stage it isn't really all that special.....i mean B1 and B2 conroes ES CPUs will do that and more too :)
12-02-2006, 09:40 PM
exhausted mule

so what's the difference (other than the fsb) between these and the first batch of core2's?

intel needs to look into symetrical bus/processor speeds.
12-02-2006, 10:35 PM
JumpingJack

Quote:

Originally Posted by exhausted mule

so what's the difference (other than the fsb) between these and the first batch of core2's?

intel needs to look into symetrical bus/processor speeds.

What do you mean by symetrical bus/processor speeds --- do you mean even multiples of 200?

I already though Intel used a symmetric bussing system, the memory access is uniform.
12-02-2006, 11:25 PM
metro.cl

Quote:

Originally Posted by shogo_ca

why isnt it named 6900? are they planning to go 3.2ghz with an upcoming chip ?

this way people wont confuse 1066 fsb with 1333fsb
12-03-2006, 12:31 AM
X-GeN

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

oh they're already out

nice going but if 4.2GHz was with single stage it isn't really all that special.....i mean B1 and B2 conroes ES CPUs will do that and more too :)

No this is an Engineering Sample ;) If I'm not to be mistaken these 1333Fsb conroes will be out in the 3rd quarter of 2007 :D :cool:

Note: 4.2ghz isn't the max out of this cpu, this is the max of the mobo :nono:
12-03-2006, 01:02 AM
eva2000

Nice.. for a moment there i thought 4.2ghz was on air hehe

so ES = step 9 so retail would be step 10 ?
12-03-2006, 01:17 AM
A101Sugar

sweet :clap:
12-03-2006, 01:24 AM
TaPaKaH

FSB490 on a 975X is really nice :toast:

BTW - I don`t see the point of this CPU. It seems to OC in MHz just as far as other Conroes, but it will have multi @ x9 , so basically:
E6850 = factory clocked E6600 for extra $$$
12-03-2006, 02:07 AM
exhausted mule

Quote:

Originally Posted by JumpingJack

What do you mean by symetrical bus/processor speeds --- do you mean even multiples of 200?

I already though Intel used a symmetric bussing system, the memory access is uniform.

what i meant was the processor core running at 3gigz lets say and the bus running at the same speed.

As for overclocking, unless intel changed the architecture or made some modification to the fab you probably wont see any overclocking increase due to just a bus change.

the fsb will be higher but you'll still hit the same clocks.
12-03-2006, 02:13 AM
Ozan Baseski

These core2 duo cpus will be out in the 3rd quarter 2007. The motherboards are having a difficult time recognizing these cpus and with their release I think intel will be releasing a new chipset for them
12-03-2006, 03:55 AM
GoriLLakoS

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaPaKaH

FSB490 on a 975X is really nice :toast:

BTW - I don`t see the point of this CPU. It seems to OC in MHz just as far as other Conroes, but it will have multi @ x9 , so basically:
E6850 = factory clocked E6600 for extra $$$

+unlocked multi till 20
12-03-2006, 05:06 AM
hey

lets see some xtreme action!,, these results show nothing special for 6850..:D
12-03-2006, 05:11 AM
kemo

Quote:

Originally Posted by X-GeN

No this is an Engineering Sample ;) If I'm not to be mistaken these 1333Fsb conroes will be out in the 3rd quarter of 2007 :D :cool:

Note: 4.2ghz isn't the max out of this cpu, this is the max of the mobo :nono:

Why 3rd quarter 2007 any 975x or 965 mobo can run that thing fine with only BIOS
By that time they should be preparing the 45nm parts
12-03-2006, 05:18 AM
cupra

that is very nice chip there, stepping 9 are same as stepping 7 in oc, 4.2ghz under ss is not so bad, but not so good as well.
12-03-2006, 05:20 AM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by X-GeN

No this is an Engineering Sample ;) If I'm not to be mistaken these 1333Fsb conroes will be out in the 3rd quarter of 2007 :D :cool:

Note: 4.2ghz isn't the max out of this cpu, this is the max of the mobo :nono:

get a different motherboard pronto :D:toast:
12-03-2006, 05:24 AM
HugeXL

This is an extreme edition, isn't it?
Why do you not just get the multi up to 10-12 an check out for max frequenzy?
Better way than changing boards ^^
12-03-2006, 05:34 AM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by HugeXL

This is an extreme edition, isn't it?
Why do you not just get the multi up to 10-12 an check out for max frequenzy?
Better way than changing boards ^^

mmm i don't think this one is extreme edition
12-03-2006, 06:08 AM
panikAtak

VERY GOOD :woot: :clap:
12-03-2006, 06:25 AM
kemo

it is not an extreme edition but it has an unlocked multi

Quote:

Originally Posted by OverclockTR

Asus mobo not change cpu multiplier , normally cpu unlocked 6-20 from bios . Default multiplier 9 *333fsb (1333fsb) . 4.25ghz not max for this cpu , because 470-475fsb max for mobo..
12-03-2006, 06:45 AM
fx57

Nice results
12-03-2006, 07:37 AM
xgman

Wow, for a 3Q 07 release, that is an early ES. maybe they will release them sooner.
12-03-2006, 07:52 AM
boblemagnifique

Quote:

Originally Posted by OverclockTR

Asus mobo not change cpu multiplier , normally cpu unlocked 6-20 from bios

Great OC :toast:

Test With Crystalcpuid for change coeff ;)
12-03-2006, 08:04 AM
Dumo

Nice cpu:toast:

N680i or BX2 boards probly will run ok. with this cpu.

Now to find ram to run >1333 1:1 with tight timings:D
12-03-2006, 08:22 AM
ZEUS__

nice results guys... :toast:

it's time of OVERCLOCKTR :cool:
12-03-2006, 08:27 AM
alexio

Better try air or another motherboard to eliminate FSB limitations.
12-03-2006, 08:53 AM
principino1984

niiiiice man! u gotta try on a p5b to see the max freq on air!!!

why they will come out so late????

Marco
12-03-2006, 11:26 AM
Digiali

st9 1333fsb nice chip thanks guys:comp10:
12-03-2006, 12:21 PM
Tenknics

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4589

That should answered all the questions.

6850 is not an EE, which is why there is no unlocked multi in the ES.
12-03-2006, 12:27 PM
TaPaKaH

if the multi in retail chip will be limited by x9 - E6850 = pointless
12-03-2006, 12:40 PM
-Sweeper_

i suppose it will be released sooner than expected, something like q1/2007
12-03-2006, 01:14 PM
Asazman

gj! :clap:
12-03-2006, 01:20 PM
Phosphate

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaPaKaH

if the multi in retail chip will be limited by x9 - E6850 = pointless

The only question is whether the 1333 FSB chips will have higher max frequencies. Otherwise E6850, E6600 and E4300 basically all have the same x 9 multiplier.
12-03-2006, 01:20 PM
A101Sugar

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Sweeper_

i suppose it will be released sooner than expected, something like q1/2007

hopefully...

ES sample released pretty early if retail versions aren't til' Q3 07'

btw... how did u already get a ES chip???
12-03-2006, 01:38 PM
OverclockTR

This cpu is not extreme edition but ıt has unlocked multiplier. we'll try P5B dlx mobo because current bios not change multiplier.
12-03-2006, 01:40 PM
Phosphate

Quote:

Originally Posted by OverclockTR

This cpu not extreme edition but ıt has unlocked multiplier. we'll try P5B dlx mobo because current bios not change multiplier.

That's interesting because that "Daily Tech" link also lists a "non extreme edition" E6800 that intel will be releasing that has a locked 11X multi.

Still we are interested to see how much more juice that e6850 has beyond the FSB limit of the mobo.
12-03-2006, 01:43 PM
OverclockTR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phosphate

That's interesting because that "Daily Tech" link also lists a "non extreme edition" E6800 that intel will be releasing that has a locked 11X multi.

Still we are interested to see how much more juice that e6850 has beyond the FSB limit of the mobo.

Retail E6850 will be locked 6-9x or 6-11x multi but this ES chip unlocked 6-20x multi .:) Asus p5W64 ws-pro bios shown multi between 6-20x but not available up to 9X now
12-03-2006, 01:44 PM
JoeBar

Nice results! :clap:
12-03-2006, 02:11 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by OverclockTR

Retail E6850 will be locked 6-9x or 6-11x multi but this ES chip unlocked 6-20x multi .:) Asus p5W64 ws-pro bios shown multi between 6-20x but not available up to 9X now

very interesting

wouldn't mind one of these :slobber:
12-03-2006, 04:27 PM
The Coolest

OverclockTR:

How about load\idle Core Temp screenshots?
12-03-2006, 04:32 PM
Vice

Quote:

Originally Posted by X-GeN

No this is an Engineering Sample ;) If I'm not to be mistaken these 1333Fsb conroes will be out in the 3rd quarter of 2007 :D :cool:

argh.
12-03-2006, 04:56 PM
Shintai

Just to get rid of any confusion. The xx50 series is to be used with the upcoming bearlake chipsets and ICH9 with 1333FSB support. I guess we gonna see alot of P965 boards get support tho, just not from Intel. The Bearlake-X (975X replacement) will also use DDR3-1333. So we are back to singlechannel memory again.
12-03-2006, 05:20 PM
Cuthalu

How can it not support dual-channel? That's quite stupid. :?
12-03-2006, 09:11 PM
oijkue

nice cpu and good job :banana: :banana:
any oc results about step.9 in air-cooled?
thx
12-04-2006, 12:03 AM
sayko

Good job guys. Congs :))
12-04-2006, 01:34 AM
Shintai

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cuthalu

How can it not support dual-channel? That's quite stupid. :?

Why is it stupid? The only reason we use dualchannel today is due to the memory not being fast enough. Today you could actually use DDR2-1066 if running stock speed.
12-04-2006, 05:27 AM
CH3CH2OH

Congratulations!!!
12-07-2006, 10:23 AM
oldcoyoteinc

very nice result bro
12-07-2006, 10:42 AM
Phosphate

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shintai

Just to get rid of any confusion. The xx50 series is to be used with the upcoming bearlake chipsets and ICH9 with 1333FSB support. I guess we gonna see alot of P965 boards get support tho, just not from Intel. The Bearlake-X (975X replacement) will also use DDR3-1333. So we are back to singlechannel memory again.

When will "bearlake" be released. Haha, there is always something better around the corner.

975X is good, but it just doesn't seem like a "flagship" chipset should be. I would think "Bearlake" would no doubt have SLI support rather than Crossfire (which would be nice also)\

P.S. Apparently the E6800 will no longer be an extreme edition CPU and instead they will have a Extreme edition 6900 to replace it (essentially they are the same CPUs. It's just the 6900 has the multiplier of the extreme 6800 set on "12" from the factory. Lame huh?)
12-08-2006, 04:07 AM
InTerCeptor

nice score [:'(]
12-08-2006, 06:58 AM
Turtle 1

Man thats is nice. The more I think about Intels Bearlake chipset. The more Appealing Wolf/York cpu's are becoming to myself. My wifes brother inlaw has promised me a Wolf/York ES cpu. He also told me that 4.5 GHz on water will be easy for these cpu's. I will wait to see some results before I decide which cpu to get Wolf/York. But a Bearlake Chipset with DDR3 at 400 bus speed at DDDR 800 with FSBof 1600 @ 1:1 should be the King until Nehalem arrives.

I have a question on the AT article. I have seen or thought I seen an Article that states that Q-core will be coming out @ 3.0 GHz yet AT article says 2.66 will remain Intels top offering.
I would link to said article but I am not allowed to do this link.
12-08-2006, 03:12 PM
XS Janus

Slightly OT, but, does anyone know will the wolf/york chips will work on todays 965 boards with just a bios upgrade or will we need a new revision of the same boards and therefore buy a knew board? (in that case "bearlake" would be a better choice, I know)
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12-08-2006, 03:42 PM
squilliam

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shintai

Why is it stupid? The only reason we use dualchannel today is due to the memory not being fast enough. Today you could actually use DDR2-1066 if running stock speed.

This makes no sense to me. Intel procs quad-pump data,
making the true bus 333Mhz. DDR2 667 runs at 333Mhz.
Wouldn't 667 be the perfect RAM to reach no bottleneck?

If you can explain this, please PM me as I may not remember
to check this thread when I get home.
12-08-2006, 04:41 PM
Cuthalu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shintai

Why is it stupid? The only reason we use dualchannel today is due to the memory not being fast enough. Today you could actually use DDR2-1066 if running stock speed.

Yes you could and 2*1066 is a lot more than 1*1333. :/ Paying more for having less is not a good idea, right?
12-09-2006, 02:21 PM
CanDostum

shake OverclockTr shake,,, :)

I get proud of you...
12-10-2006, 01:50 PM
OverclockTR

E6750ES cpuz screen :)

http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/1312/6750kj5.jpg
12-10-2006, 09:07 PM
TaPaKaH

x8 multi .... baaaaaad :(
01-29-2007, 06:20 PM
rick_fx

I have read the whole thread, but there is no confirmation as to if this ES CPU is unlocked. :(

Can somebody with an E6850es CPU confirm if multi's above 9 are useable or not with E6850es CPU's?

Thanks very much :)
01-30-2007, 03:33 PM
markodude

Got an E6850 here but no boot on BX2 :mad:
I will try in a P5W-DH I have lying around tomorrow..
01-31-2007, 09:27 AM
OverclockTR

yes , I run at orjinal Intel 975 badaxe , no problem:)
02-08-2007, 06:45 AM
markodude

Quote:

Originally Posted by OverclockTR

yes , I run at orjinal Intel 975 badaxe , no problem:)

Interesting it works on BX1 and not BX2, I have one rev 304 here that I may try, but the P5W-DH seems to like it anyway. I just hate the RAID implementation on that board.

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=165574

Got it clocking at 416x9 on air 1.3875v so far. Still testing.
02-08-2007, 07:12 AM
sdumper

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoriLLakoS

+unlocked multi till 20

??? As far as I have heard the multi is locked at x9.
02-08-2007, 07:26 AM
rick_fx

Quote:

Originally Posted by OverclockTR

yes , I run at orjinal Intel 975 badaxe , no problem:)

I tried e6850es on DFI rd600. At same settings, sometimes it boots, sometimes it doesn't. Also, sometimes it doesn't boot at default settings. :stick:
02-08-2007, 08:16 AM
Gelinder

I read somewere that the E6850 will contain the Trust Execution Technology. Any word on that?
02-08-2007, 08:39 AM
GoriLLakoS

Quote:

Originally Posted by markodude

Got an E6850 here but no boot on BX2 :mad:
I will try in a P5W-DH I have lying around tomorrow..

You maybe need a new bios for 1333 fsb cpus....

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick_fx

I have read the whole thread, but there is no confirmation as to if this ES CPU is unlocked. :(

Can somebody with an E6850es CPU confirm if multi's above 9 are useable or not with E6850es CPU's?

Thanks very much :)

I got 6850 and 6750 es too....6850 is only with 9X,and 6750 with 8X.
02-08-2007, 05:33 PM
Tallman

Quote:

Originally Posted by markodude

but the P5W-DH seems to like it anyway.

What bios you using on the P5W-DH for 1333 fsb support?
05-08-2007, 03:32 AM
dddan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tallman

What bios you using on the P5W-DH for 1333 fsb support?

I believe that bios version 1901 and higher supports the new 1333 fsb cpus. Is anyone able to confirm this with one of the ES chips?
07-23-2007, 10:08 AM
LagunaX

Quote:

Originally Posted by markodude

Got an E6850 here but no boot on BX2 :mad:
I will try in a P5W-DH I have lying around tomorrow..

Funny, it works fine for my d975xbx badaxe 1 rev. 304. You might have to set the bios for the 1333 strap though...

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