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Iam having some problems find out what the difference is with these 3 cases.
1 . PC-V2000B http://www.lian-li.com/Product/Chass...S_PC-V2000.htm
2. PC-V2000Bplus http://www.lian-li.com/Product/Chass...-V2000plus.htm
3. PC-V2000BplusII http://www.lian-li.com/Product/Chass...2000plus_2.htm
It look like nr 2 has a fan at the Grafikcard and nr 3 also has one.
But I must admit it is very hard to find anything different about them :(
Thanks in advance for your assistance.
I was wondering the same thing. Option three has the most options you can get on the case and the price is about the same for option 2. Does anyone have this case and could give us the answer?
Regular has no special ventilation/fannage for the PCI(e) area, Plus has a blower that's connected to the back of the case (that thinnish area next to the PCI(e) slots), PlusII has a fan over the PCI(e) area with a side panel that has holes in it in that area....the fan can be positioned anywhere (laterally) on that mount. The PlusII can accept any type of 120mm fan on its mount....pretty nifty little thing.
I can get the Regular VERY cheap :) Maybe it is posible to buy the ad ons seperatly :) ???
Yep it is. But the Plus II's blower fan needs a whole cut in the side of the case. So you need the fan, fan mount, and Plus II side panel. You can find the Plus II that has a window also and looks quite nice. I have a PC - V1000 Plus II, and I love it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nosfer@tu
Lian li´s service is quite bad, 3 days ago I wrote them :(
I need to find a place to buy it, and that is proving to be A HUGE MISSION :(
Lian Li PC V2000BplusII with a window or without, CAN YOU FIND ONE IN EUROPE FOR ME???
Thanks for the answers guys :) Ive orderded the case just a moment ago. Cant wait to have my hands on it :D
Noster@tu: Since i did not know if it was against the forum policy's to post store information, i have sent you a PM with a webshop which sels in europe.
It isent :DQuote:
Originally Posted by NijN of Spades
AND DAMM Im saving amoste a 150 Euros betwean the norwegan shop and this once.
My family will be happy as HELL :p
I hope you have more luck then me regarding this case m8. I just received an email that delivery for this case is a great black hole. Since i want a new case in my holiday i changed my order to a PC-201B :D Just as nice but a bit more expensive..
It's not against forum policy..do you know if they'll send one to the UK?
They say they send throughout Europe.Quote:
Originally Posted by thebeast
This is the website www.4launch.nl
(direct link to v2000) http://www.4launch.nl/shop/producten...oductid=024073
(direct link to PC-201B) http://www.4launch.nl/shop/producten...oductid=024064
http://www.4launch.nl/shop/shopassistent.htm#EU
Translation:Quote:
Wij verzenden ook naar andere EU landen. Op dit moment enkel onder de voorwaarde van vooraf betalen. Sinds 1 januari 2005 zijn de tarieven ingedeeld per zone. Als u het afleverland selecteert bij uw winkelwagen worden de verzendkosten automatisch aangepast op de juiste zone. Ook voor de zendingen naar andere EU landen bieden we een track&trace service, waarbij u de afhandeling van de verzending van uw bestelling kunt volgen. Zodra wij uw bestelling verzenden en een track&trace nummer beschikbaar is, zorgen ervoor dat u van de track&trace service gebruik kunt maken. Voor verzending naar België, Duitsland en Luxemburg (zone 1) gelden onderstaande tarieven.
Verzendwijze:
Gewicht: Vooraf betalen
0-1 kg € 13.00
2-5 kg € 15.00
6-10 kg € 17.00
11-20 kg € 21.00
21-30 kg € 25.00
As always, if you need more information contact the webshop. I just collect this info from the website ;)Quote:
We also transport to other EU countries. At this moment its only possible to send the package when payed upfront. Since Januari 1st 2005 the costs are divided by zone. If you select the delivery country in the payment system the delivery cost will be automaticly updated to the correct zone. For delivery's to other EU country's we offer Track and Trace options, where you can track your package. As soon as we send your package and the track and trace number is available we make sure that you have the ability to use the service. For sending packages to Belgium, Germany and Luxembourg (dunno how this is translated :P) the following prices are available:
Pay upfront:
0-1 kg € 13.00
2-5 kg € 15.00
6-10 kg € 17.00
11-20 kg € 21.00
21-30 kg € 25.00
I now recived my case.
Dident sign for it or anything, My girl recived it and the guy sort of ran of.
It was quite battered and looked like it had been squised quite a bit.
So I took some pictures before opening up to investigate it furthere.
http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0020mb0.jpg
http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0039ie4.jpg
http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0025na3.jpg
http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0024se3.jpg
http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0029pd8.jpg
I asked them for a price quote for a new side panel, that was the only thing that was damaged.
Here you se my email and their response, they offered me 10 Euros :(
I just wanted the coolest case I could find. And they want me to accept the damage to my 250 Euro case with a 10 Euro refund :(
Dont they have ensurance ????
I wrote an email to them friday, telling them that they should call TNT and speak to them.
But they dident reply.
Hope they reply on monday, Meantime I cant use my wather cooling or case. Only spent 850 Euros in total :(
Dear Peter,
First off all we would like to apologise for this damage.
As it seems it happened by the shipping company. But at the moment we are
investigating what happened exactly.
Unfortunately we can't order a new back side by our supplier.
To compensate this damage we are offering you a refund of 10 euro's. Do you
agree on this ?
If you have any questions left please do not hesitate to contact us.
Kind regards,
Rick van Wetering
4Launch
www.4launch.nl
0900-4launch (25cpm)
________________________________________
Van: peter kirk [mailto:punk_kirk@msn.com]
Verzonden: woensdag 20 december 2006 23:43
Aan: 4Launch - Info
CC: lis.antonsen@tnt.dk
Onderwerp: RE: Statusverandering van uw bestelling (071363)
Hello again Sir.
My packet was damaged on the way to denmark :(
I Am speaking to TNT rigth now, I hope they take responebility for damaging the
package.
I only want a new side, that is the only thing that was damaged :(
If you want to see the pictures I have uploaded them.
Could you try and investigate what a new side panel would cost?
Not the one with a fan hole in, but the Back side :)
Best regards Peter kirk.
They owe you a new case by the looks of things.
10 euros is a joke.
I got my case V2000+ in june at the same time saw that the PC-V2000BplusII was available in usa. It seems that european support is pretty crap. Have seen upgrade packs from PC-V2000B to PC-V2000Bplus but again only on us sites. I must admit to loving this case but not neing to impressed with regional support.
@Nosfer@tu that is poor hope you get something sorted. :)
Am just considering modding my case so that i can use a large heatsink on a conroe upgrade. atm most conroe boards have an overhang to the side of the mobo which this case can't handle. i'm going to lower the rear section of the shelf by 3cm.
Have sorted the inverted heatpipe i hope Do Heatpipes work with Mobo Inverted
luck:)
I just ordered the ASUS P5B Deluxe/WiFi-AP Socket T and a Lian-Li PC-V2000plusII case. I'm putting a conroe in it and a tuniq tower 120... Can anyone confirm that this case will accept this board and that the tuniq will fit as well? I've been looking all over forums but I can't seem to find anyone with this case and a P5B board and conroe who has posted anything...what do you guys think?
@mrt2 I think you'll be struggling the intel cpu sockets are further to the side of the board than say a 939 mobo wjich i'm currently running Have doner some estimating in photoshop with pics of asus & abit 775 mobos. I want to use a Thermalright Ultra-120 or the Noctua NH-U12F. I think these have around a 13mm overhang which mean no fit.
The thermalright ultra 120 is 126mm wide
the tuniq tower is 131 or 153mm depending how you orientate it,
Tuniq Tower 120 Cooler Review so i think u may be out of look.
Have just finished the mod of my case to let me have large heatsinke. have cut the shelf & lowered it by 3cm. will post a pic when i get round to it. Mod went pretty well & am chilling with a beer atm. Rig is spread out on coffee table, until i put it back in case tommorow.
luck:)
Show us some pictures :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Supershanks
I just recived an email from them.
Apparently TNT isent a very god company here in Europe.
He states that an RMA will take mounths.
How lame is european service than???
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From: "4Launch - Verkoop" <verkoop@4launch.nl>
To: <punk_kirk@msn.com>
Subject: Order 071363
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 16:38:53 +0100
Dear P. M. Kirk,
You can fill in the RMA application form on your account at our webshop, so you can return the package back to us.
If you want we can make a Case with TNT, allthough this will take for months till it is settled.
The choice is up to you.
My regards,
Met vriendelijke groet,
Yuri van der Zalm
4Launch
www.4launch.nl
I will speak to the guy from netherland and have him help me fill out the return papers.
Supershanks, Excavator from over at the ASUS forum took pics of his Lian-Li inverted V2100 running the p5b-deluxe and fitting just fine in the case.
The cooler he is using however is the Arctic Freezer7Pro... Hopefully my Tuniq will fit, but if not then I will send it back and get the arctic.
http://host-a.net/Excavator/IMG_2351...e%20cooler.jpg
http://host-a.net/Excavator/IMG_2352...e%20cooler.jpg
Arctic Freezer7Pro is 104mm(L) 58mm(W) from Frezzer 7 Pro Specs so Tuniq Tower is 27mm/2 wide = 0.5" so may be pretty close:eek:
let us know what you find please.
luck:)
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrt2
tuniq will fit
i tested few positions the best one is to orientate the tuniq blowing same way as the intake back fan.
tuniq ]
<-------- ] intake back fan (remove the duct)
air blow ]
BeforeQuote:
Nosfer@tu:-
Show us some pictures
After
Enough room 4 the coolers now,:toast:
Only thing left to do is make a 3cm extension to the batten for expansion card, although i don't use it that much.
I used 3cm(1.2") after testing a 2nd psu which leaves around 4cm clearance. I cam't see me using a 2nd psu but u never know. I got the aluminium as offcuts from e-Bay Ģ4 ~ $8. Want to get some edging to put on the lip of the upper shelf.
Everything fit like a dream no issues whatsoever! =):toast:
you should get the extra fan in front
http://www.lian-li.com/Product/Accessories/HDD_Kits.htm
Hardly need any further drive bays :D I use 1 of these Scythe Karma Bay can be seen in this shot Karma bay on left side - no fan I find I get best cooling having no fan on the bay but i suspend a silverstone FM121 on the inside of the 51/4" drive bays using large plastic ties, this sucks air in through the karma bay. All 120mm fans are set as intake the only exhaust being the lian-li pci-e cooler.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Supershanks
nice, but the reason why i did buy the front fan is that i didn't want to screw my front look.. you know ..look means everything those days :D
i will take off the hdd bay and leave only the fan, and everything will look cool
Makes sense i had originally looked at the drive bay but they were out of stock when i got case, then i saw the scythe unit which visually is a pretty cool match, but gotta admit ain't "badged" :DQuote:
i will take off the hdd bay and leave only the fan, and everything will look cool
Explain that to me please? I thought because of the way the tuniq is, you can have the fan only blow 1 or 2 directions in this case...since it's inverted. Up toward the the top of the case or down toward the bottom... The fan on the back for some reason seems to be blowing out instead of taking in... How do you know which way the air flow is going on case fans? It's my understanding that whatever side the sticker in the middle of the fan is on...that's the direction the air flowing is going...no? How do I make sure?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilfiger
Lick on your finger and stick it infront og the fan :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by mrt2
Ouch:eek:Quote:
Lick on your finger and stick it infront og the fan
The direction of the fan is shown by the support struts to the centre, so in this pic
http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~chsmith/Mem_Fan1.jpg
fans are blowing down onto cpu & memory. I find remembering it this way much easier on the fingers:toast:
luck:)
dont stik it INTO the fan, just infront ;)
the face of fan is blowing to the back (the back is where the small cables are)
the back fan on lian li blows in, the side fan out the fron fan in
the best position tested by me for tuniq is to have it blowing same way with the back fan .. (blowing to front of case)
i cant have it that way any more because i installed a custom NB cooler and the tuniq dosnt fit that way so i installed the tuniq to blow to top of case(up) and the temps have increased 5C from the previous position
a way to find which way the fans are blowing is to get some pater and put it on fan, either is blowed away from fan or is sucked in to the fan
have fun :p
Thanks guys... Hilfiger explain to me how to mount the Tuniq the way you were talking about? Because if my intake on the back is blowing toward my Tuniq, how do I mount the tuniq so it's fan is blowing the same way? From the way it looks you can only mout the Tuniq so it blows air up or down but not sideways... explain for me please?
bump
I don't know what the laws are in Holland but in your situation I would say to them in a quiet but firm voice that you paid for an intact undented case and that is what you want or your money back period.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nosfer@tu
If it takes them months to collect from the shipping company, that is their issue not yours. THEY chose the shipper not you and therefore the responsibility lies with them. I would give them the option of replacing the side panel( and that BS of it taking months is just that,BS: They could buy it retail in the US if they had no other choice.
If they refuse that option and refuse to RMA and Immediately refund your money, call the police both locally and in the city they operate out of and let them know that you will go to the mats with them.
NEVER raise your voice or swear. NEVER! Once you do that they now have the excuse they want to hang up on you and refuse to talk to "an abusive customer". This is like a chess match and has to be played out the same way. Step by step always thinking 12 moves ahead.
Good Luck to you!
Just have your CC decline the charges, explain your situation.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrt2
you can mount the tuniq to blow in 4 ways , up down left right :)
simply turn the tuniq the way you need and mount it, the plate on tuniq fits any way you like, is a square, so turning the tuniq to blow in the direction you need is not a problem
i don't have any pictures with the fan blowing same way as the back intake fan, but it should fit
by the way , what's your motherboard? maybe the tuniq cant be turned on your board .. just crossed my mind :slap:
I have tried this a few times here in denmark, the police thing would have been a great thing, But I canīt be bothered, they even have a telefone number where they charge you for calling, And of cource it dosent work internationaly :( So I cant even call them...Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
This will end up costing me the frigth from here to Holland, then I will recive a new one.
Thoug they should cover the cost of frigth from here to Holland...
CC???Quote:
Originally Posted by wangerin
I already paid for the case, and it is a bank transfer, so when it is international you cant stop the money... :(
This is not a great situation you are in. I have orderd before from them in the past and had no big problems with them. But this is just bad. On the other hand the package has been damaged by the transporter so basicly the seller is not responsible (not that this helps your case)
Good luck in the RMA.
Im told they have to report it to TNT before 5 days, They havent yet but I told 4launch that the package was damaged the 20 december 2006 23:43.
They replyed the day after offering me 10 Euro and when I denied that they did not reply before the 27 of December....
So maybe they are claiming that it will take mounths because it is imposible to do a RMA at TNT????