BA0, not had chance to test but there are huge amount of changes on this board for the memory.
Have a look here to see what i mean. If I get chance I will test, this is also that board that they can enable 1333 strap i hear ;)
T
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BA0, not had chance to test but there are huge amount of changes on this board for the memory.
Have a look here to see what i mean. If I get chance I will test, this is also that board that they can enable 1333 strap i hear ;)
T
Good to hear. Kind of sick of seeing this 1333 bus limitation crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
interesting indeed.. guess Tony you'll be busy over the next few weeks hehe
are these avail in retail currently?
nice to see the return of the nippon chemcon caps over the nichi's too.
read on dfi streets it had some issues with 4gbs of ram,memory hole issues hope it's been resolved.if it is i'm buying one again
Its being resolved, next bios should have the fix.
very nice.. :D If the DFI RD600 is not at afar with this board i'm cosidering of buying again.. :D
tnxs sir Tony.. :woot:
looking forward for your results.. ;)
initial runs with memory in memtest only have the board maxing here at 445fsb. I hear this board has the 1333 capability so a new bios may have this Infinity doing 500fsb real soon.
Tested 400 mode 3-3-3 and 533 mode 4-3-3 at 445fsb and both performed well. If I have time I will bench with XP tomorrow but with the impending trip it will be hard.
My honest opinion now is the Infinity is a good buy with the right CPU. 6400 and 6600 will get you 3.5 to 3.6GHZ stable without mods. A 6300 needs a i965 board for the 500+fsb they can do.
If you can afford it the 6700 or Xeon equivalent really is the way to go.
So da Real-Dragon wakes up??? Watching this space ;)
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Originally Posted by Tony
tnxs Tony.. excellent work.. we will be waiting for more of your results.. :D
:rocker:
The older revision board is good for 445, with 1.75 vnb and read delay of 6. With 1.8vnb and over (mod required) read delay 7 opens up another 10 fsb..Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
A couple of extra dividers would be nice..
Will be interesting to see what DFI can do with this new revision and if they can keep the price point, if they can it'll be awesome...
regards
Raja
RajaQuote:
Originally Posted by raju
I don't feel you are going to see much more from either board on the 1066 strap, the fact is the chipsets just can not handle much more.
BA0 is reported to have the hardware change to be able to switch to 1333, once the bios is released with this the BA0's will start to pull away from the earlier revisions. Of course DFI may decide to leave the BA0 on 1067 and we will see equal benefits from the bios on all revisions.
Overall I do think this BA0 clocks memory a little easier, i have an A00 and even with the same bios its not quite as sweet.
Im off to Taiwan so i will have Rgone take over from where I leave off, he has BA0 also.
T
wow :) thanks for the heads up Tony.. :D
:woot:
how do you know you will get the newer revision when buying online for example
I think it'll prolly be advertised as such considering the results that are now cropping up..
regards
Raja
I doubt it will have new rev splashed all over the box, you have to remember motherboard manufacturers constantly revise boards making them better and cheaper. As stock changes you will see the newer rev everywhere, for now you need a friendly guy at newegg or such who will check for you if you choose to try the newer version.Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
damn i need a board by x-mas...
maybe tank guys will step up and gurantee them for us, like with the AD0 939's.
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Originally Posted by Tony
True buddy, but some of these retailers do anything they can to hike a price, I won't drop any names (esp. where we come from)...
'we can confirm that out latest batch is indeed the new revision, they're so hard to get hold of, that we've had to pay more our end which means we have to pass on this cost to you...'...
regards
Raja
The problem is the near impossibility to know what has not sold from etailer stock...Quote:
Originally Posted by Raja
I put the 11/15 bios on my orignal A00 board and it will do about everything my BA0 will do both with 11/15/2006 beta bios, I may have to agree with Tony that it may seem a little easier to clock the memory on the BA0 but the benefit to me with a retail 6700 was not well seen until I got on 60F water...then I could run that POS cpu at 392x10...up from dead dog stopped at 3790Mhz.
RGone...
I thought as much tbh. The a rev A gets close enough, it can use the 667 divider right upto 435 fsb or so, which is more than plenty for most. Most people running air/water won't really notice the performance gain anyway. In general most will use upto 420fsb (24/7) or so on the 4mb cache cpu's, which is more than enough.
Any other results we see in comparison between the 2 boards will be quite anal I think. Maybe a modded vnb will pull away a little with extreme cooling on the cpu and nb, but not by much i'd imagine.
regards
Raja
too bad she cant do 4:5 at 450, it would be my dream board then.
however 3-3-3 at 450 may not be so bad, and my ram can do it.
Finally got a little cooler fluid flowing thru my DD TDX block and after Tony and I did a couple of hours of memtesting some timings...decided to put this stuff thru its' paces...I am satisfied for now (<2mins)...hehehe.
Seems with the 11/15/06 bios that there a few timings that do make a difference so I posted some bios pics as I was configured.
http://www.rgone.net/PC6400rev2Chill...ting390x10.jpg
http://www.rgone.net/PC6400rev2Chill...ting390x10.jpg
http://www.rgone.net/PC6400rev2Chill...nfig390x10.jpg
3D01 http://www.bleedinedgesupport.com/oc...48&postcount=3
3D03 http://www.bleedinedgesupport.com/oc...49&postcount=2
3D05 http://www.bleedinedgesupport.com/oc...50&postcount=2
3D06 http://www.bleedinedgesupport.com/oc...51&postcount=2
Aq3 http://www.bleedinedgesupport.com/oc...52&postcount=3
SuPi 1M http://www.bleedinedgesupport.com/oc...53&postcount=3
SuPi 32M http://www.bleedinedgesupport.com/oc...54&postcount=2
Whole forum page http://www.bleedinedgesupport.com/oc...aysprune=&f=87
RGone...:slash:
come on rgone drop her into 9x and crank on that FSB, we all know this board can do 390. ;)
I don't think there's an option to drop the multi, at least not from the bios on my board, but my board unmodded did 440 with ease :D, we'll see what it does modded in a couple days
Like "toddm27" said the 975X/G does not allow to lower multi's and at the level of cool I am applying to keep the dewpoint just above 'condensing' moisture on the cpu...I cannot push that cpu over 4.0ghz...but currently it is a lot better than being hung back at <3800Mhz as so many air-cooled E6700's are.
What really whacks me is finding that there are next to 'no' 975 chipsets capable of handling DDR1000 for the majority of us in the real world. If I was a fortunate soul that had any claim to >DDR1000 on a 975 chipet board...even the 390x10 benches would rise I believe...but right now I have to live in the patch of reality I am given...hehehehe.
RGone...:D
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Originally Posted by RGone
sure it does, you disabled the option in your bios.
By the way, tony- while much improved... the infinity has the same problem the asus p5w has :(!!!
When any multi selected above 10, only 1 core gets the mult change, the other stays locked at 10. It is actually worse than asus because asus can at least go to 12.
Hopefully they will have this fixed soon.
even with my es chip, and freq unlimit enabled it still has no change options
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Originally Posted by toddm27
I dont have that problem, tested w/ 2 different CPU's
Did you enable frequency unlimit?
I'd like to see a ss of the multi adjustment option with anything but a 6800 cpu, I sure don't have it with my E6700es and you are the only one saying they do have it.... I'd love to be able to go up with this cpu ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by irev210
This is not the old revision board, but it's doing good so far... I'm still playing with memory setting trying to get a little more out of it. I'm having problems with running memory with the 533 setting.. using 400 now with 3-2-2-5 timings.
This is max with 1.62vcor...
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/235...cpuzwebtk7.jpg
Best 1M at same vcore/mem timings..
http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/8...8ghzwebnp0.jpg
am I reading that right that this is the new rev? if so, where did you get it at? Nice clocks btw:toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by boshuter
No one needs this improved c*ap, we have best mem Ocer - nF680i ... with unlinked options. Forget for mems ocing on 975X use brutal possibilities on new Nvidia chipset ...
Sorry, I meant to say that this is not the "new" board, I've had this one for quite a while :)Quote:
Originally Posted by toddm27
:rolleyes:Quote:
No one needs this improved c*ap, we have best mem Ocer - nF680i ... with unlinked options. Forget for mems ocing on 975X use brutal possibilities on new Nvidia chipset ...
tuned!!! let's see what the new revision can do!!!
Marco
I don't think it's as clear cut as that. being able to run 445 fsb at read delay 6 on the 9 x multi with the 975 chipset is quite fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by OBR
I already have the striker extreme and I'm running orthos blend at around 440 with 5-5-5-15 @ 1100mhz 2T. Some users of the evga have already reported has strap change performance hit over 1700fsb or so. max boot up on the current bios on the 9x multi is sround 1850, with orthos max coming in around 440-460 with the 0505 bios. consider the price difference too.
so for average users (who make up the largest market), the 980i still has something to prove other than superpi runs.
regards
raja
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Originally Posted by OBR
975x is faster, and it overclocks the CPU better. Only reason for 680i is for SLi.
I 2nd this.. damn Nvidia don't give proper drivers to run SLI in 975x chipset.. we resort to hacked drivers..Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
:D
I am building a new system, and am looking for advice. The system is designed as a water cooled every-day-stable machine. I am currently planning on utilizing the DFI Infinity 975x, and have questions about performance/stability and component selection. Current plan as follows:
- CPU - Intel Core 2 Duo E6600
This is the starting point; C2D is no contest when it comes to building a new system right now and the E6600 is the most affordable 4MB cache version. I would like to hit 400x9 on water rock stable with this system (the cooling system is as extreme as it gets really - went overboard this summer on it).- Motherboard - DFI INFINITY 975X
From what I read, clock for clock the 975's are the speediest. To get the most out of the 4MB cache c2d's, 975's seem to be recommended on the forums over P965's.
How much of a difference does the new board revision make?- RAM - Need Advice
Currently looking for suggestions.
What sort of RAM does this board like?
If I were to opt for 4x1GB what sort of impact would that have using the Infinity 975x?- Graphics - eVGA 640-P2-N821-AR GeForce 8800GTS
I can't justify the extra 200 USD for a GTX.
How well does SLI work on the Infinity (I know it requires modified drivers) if in the future I wanted to expand?
Wrong forum but does anyone know if the MP-1 fits on the 8800GTS?
Thank you for your time,
-sfxs
afaik there are no hacked drivers that support 8800.Quote:
Originally Posted by sfx
afaik 8800 requires x16 & in dual gfx 975 is x8+x8 ...
Raju,
Where can I buy a rev 2 board? i dont mind paying a little more for a rev BAO board.
Thanks for the reply, Heidfirst.
Bootsy, I notice you are running 4X1GB of ram on your DFI 975 - are there any problems running 4x1 vs 2x1?
-sfxs
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Originally Posted by Bootsy
brudda I have no idea at all. Other than ask sales at dfi europe if you're this side of the big pond.
SOme other people like Tony/Rgone or HappYG may be able to find out where the boards have gone thus far.
I don't have one myself, still got my trusty a rev board.
I would not really go for it just for the b rev if you already have the a, if you don't have the board at all of course, I'd be hunting the b, even if the logic is not truly justified..
regards
Raja
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Originally Posted by Bootsy
Tankguys.biz should be getting them, however we will have to wait a while for them, hopefully theyll have them by the end of january.
Just got a board in from newegg today; fyi it was an A00 revision.
-sfxs
Whats the highest Vcore on this mobo with current official bios ?
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Originally Posted by sfxs
Thanks for the update..
looks like no one has seen a BA0 in the wild yet.
Too bad.
so no way to lower multi in BIOS? Is that right?
This is mine, BB0 from a local shop in Hong Kong.;)
http://bbs.ocqq.com/attachments/foru...ziUjZtWiKb.jpg
Read delay 5 @ 435 fsb isnt too slow at least ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
The 680i that I had a chance to set up didnt impress me much, decent board, but not amazing in the least.
I hate to persue more 975x boards, they always have huge hype, and just disappoint.
i got an open box b00 off new egg, havent tested it yet, hopefully it doesnt suck
what are you waiting for?? test it! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by kemist
Depends on your expectations :DQuote:
Originally Posted by kemist
I purchased a new Infinity 975x from newegg last week and got revision A00.. crap...
Ill play with it only if I get left in the cold from RD600.
Hi oldguy!
Got an E6600 or 6700? You'll be fine...Quote:
Originally Posted by wangerin
Haha, well i have a 6600 so hopefully it can do at least ~425fsb (I'm hoping ill hit 3800, im on good water and have lapped the proc). Also i have 4gb of ballistix 6400, which i dont need to clock super high, but im hoping can at least be kept 1:1 with good timings.
Basically building a new rig in a MM U2-UFO, w/ water and what not so some stuff out of my current rig has to come out and i still have to do a little bit of prep work, but im hoping to have it running by tomorrow at the latest. Will post how it does (keep in mind i have no conroe/intel experience yet, so may take some tweaking time)
My best on the fini with E6600 was 423 using bios 913...1.625v and Freezone CPU cooler. You can get away with much less voltage depending on what you consider stable... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by kemist
Wait, so is that with the new miracle bios, or one of the older ones? And is the 1.625 on the cpu or the NB?Quote:
Originally Posted by OldGuy
Cooling is going to be a storm / petra ddc / pa120.3 for the proc. Also i put a lapped HR-05 (really really, not flat from factory) w/ 70mm fan on the northbridge to keep heat down. Side note, the 6600 was really bumpy as well, and took quite a bit of time to get it to bare copper.
This may or may not be an interim board depending on how it does and how much rd600 costs. Main reason i got it was because it was cheap, the new bios is supposed to help things a lot, and im tired of waiting.
Realistically if its hitting decent numbers, i may just stick with it, so any pointers would be appreciated, if this is too far OT though then just ignore me :)
Just set up on my bench and something is DOA :(.
The power LED does not turn on (tested with dmm too) which according to the manual means a problem with ram or cpu (or mb itself).
I doubt it is the ram as I have 4 identical sticks and 4x1, 2x1, 1x1 (in every possible slot with each module) acts the same.
Is this board unable to recognize the xeon 3000 series out of the box? That is the only cause I can think of other than a doa cpu or mb.
-sfxs
Here's a link to my settings...DB entry...and yes, that was 1.625 on the CPU. Bios 913 (last official I believe). Haven't been able to go any higher with the November beta and haven't tried the 1201 beta...Quote:
Originally Posted by kemist
very nice.. :)
ahhh.. I miss my board.. :(
OldGuy really nice setup.. :) DFI 975x in SLI.. :woot:
Quote:
Originally Posted by OldGuy
nope, e6400 (L628B191) and some Crucial 10th Ann.
Thanks bud...that particular link was with a single card whilst waiting on RMA for a replacement. Easily broke 200k on AM3 once I got the the gtx back and all other 3D benchies scaled up nicely as well. Easily my favorite board having tried P5B Deluxe, P5W DH and Evga 680i all of which came after the Infinity. Evga was a distant second as it just ran too hot and maxed at 3.60ghz. Returned it after a week as it just wasn't worth keeping having paid top dollar for it. If it were priced similar to the Infinity it might have been worthwhile to hang on to...as for Asus...really don't care much for em'. Too pricey and too gimicky IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by erwinz
Well take her for a spin anyway. 3.20 was a snap with stock voltage on my E6400...linkage...Quote:
Originally Posted by wangerin
Gonna take the 6400 for another spin over the holiday with one of the new betas to see if I can do better than 416. Strange that my 6600 maxed at 423 and the 6400 maxed at 416 but oh well :)
EDIT: mines a week 26 by the way...
*bump* - How come nobody answered this yet, I'm on one of the worlds most popular overclocking forums and no answer ??? :confused: :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by IluvIntel
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Originally Posted by IluvIntel
mm.. I think its 1.7 in the bios.. :) ..DFI-Street have also a discussion for this board.. :)
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Originally Posted by sfxs
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Originally Posted by kemist
mixed bag..Quote:
Originally Posted by wangerin
2 builds based on this mobo, 2 weeks i got an AD0, 1 week ago got an AD0 both from newegg..
very nice mobo to work with..
Default of 1.325 + 787.5mv = 2.1125 max. Mine defaults to 1.325 but I've seen others report 1.28~1.29ish...at any rate you have up to 2.0v to play with...Quote:
Originally Posted by IluvIntel
I did not see any options for RAM dividers in BIOS screen shots. Maybe this is a stupid question but is mem diveder in there?
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Originally Posted by OldGuy
How bad is the vdroop on the board though?
They are there...400, 533, 667 and 800.Quote:
Originally Posted by mnemonik23
Does this mean I can not use PC-8000 (1000MHz) with it? Only 800 max?Quote:
Originally Posted by OldGuy
Edit: oh, I see you have a Geil Ultra DDR2 1000 4-4-4-12 in your sig, which divider do you use?
Do you actually have your RAM running at 500MHz?
You can use PC8000...That's what I use (in my sig)...heh..snuck an edit in on me ;) At 400X9 I had the divider at 667 which put me at DDR1000. Works like a charm.Quote:
Originally Posted by mnemonik23
great!Quote:
Originally Posted by OldGuy
I'm about to buy it from newegg but it probably it will be A00. Should I wait for the new revision?
mnemonik23 well A0 is wrking fine atleast for me, i realy like this board and the n-b cooling that you actually can change not as Abit aw9d-max that u have modify just so you can change the cooler(heatpipes) this is a great board with the new beta bios, the only thing is that i can't lower multipel on my e67.
ah ohh.. this is the ight max vcore.. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by OldGuy
I just got this from someone from DFI street. CPU should be here today (E6600) Can't wait to see what she will do with new BIOS. Will post results after x-mas day.
where did you get B00 from??Quote:
Originally Posted by sofarfrome
Well I haven't seen where the new revisions are all that much better. My old revision did 460fsb with the 11-15 bios at X10 multi and my E6700es. I did sell the board though and grabbed a P5B Deluxe, topping out at 460fsb just doesn't cut it if you are oc'ing with phase or colder. Someone running air or h2o would probably be fine with this board and a 6600 or higher. Another reason I got rid of mine is because you can't change multipliers, even with an ES cpu.
BTW: I think the board may go higher than 460 with vmch and vsfb mods, I ran out of pots to try that. I was getting ready to go to dry ice and knew I was going to need more than 500fsb, which I'm sure I'd never get on this board.
Why there is no way to change multis? Is DFI can do it trough the BIOS update or it just a way 975 chipset set?
should be possible with a new bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by mnemonik23
Is this bios available yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
I have just setup my new DFI 975X/G mobo & it came preinstalled with 26/10/2006 official bios.
There is a later beta bios out, but I'm not interested atm.
One problem I had when setting up was the system refused to bootup to the bios splash screen with 2 x 1Gb OCZ Platinium XTC sticks on board in dual channel. Even with only 1 stick - no bootup.
I had to use my Corsair 8000ULs in dual channel to bootup and start some overclocking once Windows XP was installed...
Its rare to hear of such hardware conflicts in this day in the PC world, but this was one of them...
Not really. I've read more than one comment on several different boards that needed to be booted with lesser rated memory/voltage just to get things started...I would however like to see mobo mfg's default the memory voltage in the shipping bios up to at least 2.0v to get rid of these types of problems. Even though my Geils are rated at 2.40v they still booted up right out of the box on my first Infinity build. Memory conflicts will be around as long as mobos are around. Aint never gonna get rid of them completely...Quote:
Originally Posted by IluvIntel