Testing / comparing : Intel D975XBX2 / Asus P5B DX ***56K WARNING***

Hey,

I received an Intel Bad Axe 2 yesterday.

http://simon.webideal.ca/Temp/XBX2/1.JPG
http://simon.webideal.ca/Temp/XBX2/4.JPG
http://simon.webideal.ca/Temp/XBX2/6.JPG
http://simon.webideal.ca/Temp/XBX2/11.JPG
http://simon.webideal.ca/Temp/XBX2/b1.JPG
http://simon.webideal.ca/Temp/XBX2/b2.JPG
http://simon.webideal.ca/Temp/XBX2/b3.JPG
http://simon.webideal.ca/Temp/XBX2/b4.JPG
http://simon.webideal.ca/Temp/XBX2/b5.JPG
http://simon.webideal.ca/Temp/XBX2/b6.JPG
http://simon.webideal.ca/Temp/XBX2/b7.JPG
http://simon.webideal.ca/Temp/XBX2/b8.JPG
http://simon.webideal.ca/Temp/XBX2/b9.JPG
http://simon.webideal.ca/Temp/XBX2/b10.JPG
http://simon.webideal.ca/Temp/XBX2/b11.JPG
http://simon.webideal.ca/Temp/XBX2/b12.JPG

Here's are a few quick test:

1M XBX2 Fat D9 Fat D9
1M XBX2 CAS3 mid freq
1M P5B DX CAS4 high freq

E6600 ES @ 4ghz - 8800GTS @ 665/1000
Aquamark3 XBX2
Aquamark3 P5B DX

3dmark2001 XBX2
Max prime XBX2 first board making my E6600 stable @ 3.8 :D
Max prime P5B DX
3.6ghz prime 10h+, 1.375v set in bios, vfsb and vmch stock, tower 120 @ lowest rpm (almost inaudible), no added fans and only 58c coretemp

Q6600ES

XBX2 3.4Ghz 3Dmark06
P5B DX 3.7Ghz 3Dmark06

more benchies in progress

For those having problems with the 2395 bios, you can grab the 2333 HERE

Thanks

Simon

Nice reults man :toast: . Keep it up :) .

nice but the images aren't loading for me.. too large ?

my server have some problems today (fixing it)

So far so good, The BX2 is running a bit hotter but also has some better scores.

Can't wait to see the rest of the benches and get your take on the board.

Awesome! Nice results for the BX2. Would be interesting to see what the what sort of FSB overclocking could be achieved with this board and a Kentsfield processor. Hopefully they are better than what Eva noted in his tests on an older BX1.

anyone know if this board requires a ES/Extreme chip or a mod to get the advanced OC options like the original BadAxe?

Ender17: Didn't Breetai72 answer that in the other thread you asked it in?

Breetai72 said "BX2 has OC hooks enabled for all processors. The "OC Debug" jumper is still there, but it is no longer used."

Nice, thats a stock board right?

Im awaiting ur results... my new choice of mobo depends on this hehe :),

Teratism, whats that "OC Hook" your talking about? something like locking the strap?

tjelaw: I don't know it is something breetai72 said in the bad axe 2 thread named How did this slip by....... http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...hlight=bad+axe
first page post #24

Nice results. I got a BX2 too and I highest I was 438x8. Check sig for info.

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Originally Posted by Teratism

Ender17: Didn't Breetai72 answer that in the other thread you asked it in?

Breetai72 said "BX2 has OC hooks enabled for all processors. The "OC Debug" jumper is still there, but it is no longer used."

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so vCore and everything is available on retail chips?
just wanted to make sure

Yes. All the tuning options are available for all processors.

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Originally Posted by Ender17

so vCore and everything is available on retail chips?
just wanted to make sure

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Originally Posted by breetai72

Yes. All the tuning options are available for all processors.

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awesome, thanks
that's already a big improvement over the D975XBX

how is the 1333 strap working on this board? does it cause the coldboot problem as on badaxe1 ?

no coldboot problems for me
The vcore is rock solid on this board, better than all conroe board I tested.
It's the first board that make my 6600es stable @ 3.8 :slobber:
all the overclocking option straight in the bios, no mods :D
With vcore and vmch mod, this board will fly :p:

edit : added bios pics

Looks good, I'm getting my X1900XT 256MB and E6600 on friday for my XBX2. Hopefully I get results like yours. Is your a REV 503 board? Is there a difference between 502 and 503?

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by C Stat B

Looks good, I'm getting my X1900XT 256MB and E6600 on friday for my XBX2. Hopefully I get results like yours. Is your a REV 503 board? Is there a difference between 502 and 503?

Thanks.

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Hi,

My board is rev503
I don't know if there is a difference between 502/503...sorry

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Originally Posted by Supertim0r

With vcore and vmch mod, this board will fly :p:

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Are those out yet?

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Originally Posted by Speederlander

Are those out yet?

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I bet they won't differ much from the mods already known for the Bad Axe 1. ;)

Any probs with this motherboard sofar??

EDIT: Couldn't see one screenshot earlier but nice VDIMM options even upto a toasty 2.8v

When disable the second sata controller in bios, the HDD-LED is always on.... no flickering by HDD access.

After enable the controller it flickers by HDD access.

Is this normal?

My MB: Intel D975XBX2 Rev. 503 Bios 2330

Greets
Nilix

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Originally Posted by Nilix

When disable the second sata controller in bios, the HDD-LED is always on.... no flickering by HDD access.

After enable the controller it flickers by HDD access.

Is this normal?

My MB: Intel D975XBX2 Rev. 503 Bios 2330

Greets
Nilix

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I can't tell about the Bad Axe, but my Black Creek (D955XBK, the bad axe predecessor)does exactly the same thing.

ok, only 1 problem so far : everest = voltage reset = reboot

if you enable the second sata controller, yes its flickering

this board is awesome : 3.6ghz prime 10h+, 1.375v set in bios, vfsb and vmch stock, tower 120 @ lowest rpm (almost inaudible), no added fans and only 58c coretemp :slobber:

the bad axe "1" needed 1.395/1.695v vfsb/vmch and more vcore

How exactly did everest reset your voltage? Also does this mean you recommend this board?

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Originally Posted by Teratism

How exactly did everest reset your voltage? Also does this mean you recommend this board?

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everest reset the vcore to default (original bad axe had same issue when it came out)

YES, i highly recommend this board :D

do you use any fans over the SB and NB heatsinks?
is it a hotter board than the p5w dh and p5 deluxe?
what is the motherboard's (i assume nb?) temperature in bios?

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Originally Posted by heikis

do you use any fans over the SB and NB heatsinks?
is it a hotter board than the p5w dh and p5 deluxe?
what is the motherboard's (i assume nb?) temperature in bios?

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no fans over nb/sb
run cooler the Asus mobos, great, silent and cool :banana:

current speed
bios temp :)

Nice, I am looking to pick one of these up. Anything else about the board you think we should know or a few little tricks to get a nice stable overclock?

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Originally Posted by Teratism

Nice, I am looking to pick one of these up. Anything else about the board you think we should know or a few little tricks to get a nice stable overclock?

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nothing special to know, this board is easy to overclock compare to original XBX :)

great board from Intel :woot:

I just ordered the BadAXE2 because I just don't trust the 680i yet. Hope I have as good of luck as you!!!

Hey Supertimor I see you've owned just about ALL the new boards supporting the Core 2Duo, how does the badaxe2 compare???

You other fellows that get the Bad Axe 2 be sure to post up your results. I am curious what it can do, and would like to see as many results from various users as possible.

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Originally Posted by malficar

You other fellows that get the Bad Axe 2 be sure to post up your results. I am curious what it can do, and would like to see as many results from various users as possible.

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I agree with you, I am about to order this board and want to see how members do with it as well.

so far, it's the best board i've tested
important thing : it's retail board, bought from supplier (not review sample or handpicked stuff)

I'm with you guys aswell,stuff the 680i..im not ignorant and accept things have to be ironed out,but thats too much money for too much pain.
This AW9D-MAX is a pile of pants,and i want something thats overclockable and i can then leave alone.
Good luck. :)
Subscribed :D

Any clock per clock PI1M and PI32M results please? :)

Tahnks

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Originally Posted by Supertim0r

so far, it's the best board i've tested
important thing : it's retail board, bought from supplier (not review sample or handpicked stuff)

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Thanx man!!! that's what I've been wanting to hear. My purchase is awaiting verification @ ZipZoomFly. Probably won't see it until next week sometime:(

Supertimo is that corsair memory you are using with this board?
Also is that a core duo e6600 that you have installed in it ?

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Originally Posted by malachi1313

Thanx man!!! that's what I've been wanting to hear. My purchase is awaiting verification @ ZipZoomFly. Probably won't see it until next week sometime:(

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Just an FYI...ZZF has both the BOX (retail) & the BLK (bulk) version of this board. Differences are minor...

www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d975xbx2/sb/cs-023490.htm

Does anyone know if the BadAxe2 can unlock Conroes down (lower the multiplier)?

Does this do the double shutdown like some boards do?

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Originally Posted by willow

Just an FYI...ZZF has both the BOX (retail) & the BLK (bulk) version of this board. Differences are minor...

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As far as the board itself, the BOX version and BLK version are exactly the same. Only the packaging and accessories differ. TankGuys said the BLK only includes two SATA cables, while BOX should have four: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=122752

There is supposed to be another version of the motherboard though, the LAD (LAD975XBX2LKR). It cut some features like FireWire, optical audio and the secondary RAID controller, but adds a TPM chip: http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd..._available.htm

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Originally Posted by bofors

Does anyone know if the BadAxe2 can unlock Conroes down (lower the multiplier)?

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No, lower multiplier unavailable.

Thanks again.

wow i had forgotten how much slower 965 was on 1333, nice comparo.

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Originally Posted by Supertim0r

ok, only 1 problem so far : everest = voltage reset = reboot

if you enable the second sata controller, yes its flickering

this board is awesome : 3.6ghz prime 10h+, 1.375v set in bios, vfsb and vmch stock, tower 120 @ lowest rpm (almost inaudible), no added fans and only 58c coretemp :slobber:

the bad axe "1" needed 1.395/1.695v vfsb/vmch and more vcore

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darn the reset vcore thing still exists huh... does it happen in sandra 2007 as well ?

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Originally Posted by eva2000

darn the reset vcore thing still exists huh... does it happen in sandra 2007 as well ?

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haven't tried yet
i'll let you know tomorow ;)

nice testing there,im also glad for my xbx,if only they would do a biose that kan give a bit more vdim ,like your xbx2. 2.8 would be nice.unfortunatly mine only gives 2.2v .. sis sandra 2007 does not reset vcore on my xbx.

Supertim0r: Are you going to tell the people who make the bios for the xbx2 about the everest reset?

Did you try any other sets of RAM?

ZZF has them for 269 and Newegg for 329. (<ouch) Some places have it cheaper than ZZF and I'd check their shipping to see how much that tacks on.

I am talking about the board with the three year warranty here, not the one year warranty.

BTW nice reults to the OP. Looks solid.

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Originally Posted by Teratism

Supertim0r: Are you going to tell the people who make the bios for the xbx2 about the everest reset?

Did you try any other sets of RAM?

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I don't think I understand the first question...

Other sets of ram : 2gig Fat D9

I guess you CPU is better than mine, I've only had 3.9GHz up to now. What volts are you using I haven't gone over 1.4v's for the CPU.

Best Pi so far, playing it safe with the RAM timings.
http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?i...hirdrunfl4.jpg
3Dmark01 with my GTO2 @ 600/600 and CPU at 3.8GHz
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9097134

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Originally Posted by C Stat B

I guess you CPU is better than mine, I've only had 3.9GHz up to now. What volts are you using I haven't gone over 1.4v's for the CPU.

Best Pi so far, playing it safe with the RAM timings.
http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?i...hirdrunfl4.jpg
3Dmark01 with my GTO2 @ 600/600 and CPU at 3.8GHz
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9097134

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1.55v set in bios for 4-4.05ghz

1.4875v set in bios for 3.8 prime

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Originally Posted by Supertim0r

1.55v set in bios for 4-4.05ghz

1.4875v set in bios for 3.8 prime

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Thanks, I'll try em.

hmmm... i wonder if its worth dumping a very fast and picky rev305 Bad Axe. :(

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Originally Posted by JasonDTM

hmmm... i wonder if its worth dumping a very fast and picky rev305 Bad Axe. :(

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YES :D

The first question was asking if you will inform the product maker of the voltage reset to get them to fix the problem.

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Originally Posted by Teratism

The first question was asking if you will inform the product maker of the voltage reset to get them to fix the problem.

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yes, monday

Got a little more, thanks Supertim0r.
http://img63.imageshack.us/my.php?im...urthrunsh5.jpg

Are these your 24/7 stable settings or more benching for highest FSB?

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Originally Posted by Supertim0r

everest reset the vcore to default (original bad axe had same issue when it came out)

YES, i highly recommend this board :D

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Dude, upon your reccomendation, my girl just ordered me a BOXD975XBX2KR as a "early" Christmas present.....:woot: Ewiz has em for $260 shipped....

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Originally Posted by Teratism

Are these your 24/7 stable settings or more benching for highest FSB?

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I'm going to be running 3.6GHz 24/7 @ 1.4v. It's been stable for like the last 36 hours, though I've been benching at higher speeds in the time.

first high fsb try....cpu is breaking me out i suppose.

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/1556/475cropnn0.jpg

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Originally Posted by screwtech02

Dude, upon your reccomendation, my girl just ordered me a BOXD975XBX2KR as a "early" Christmas present.....:woot: Ewiz has em for $260 shipped....

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:toast:

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Originally Posted by BAR*B*Q

first high fsb try....cpu is breaking me out i suppose.

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wow, 475fsb :slobber:

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Originally Posted by screwtech02

Ewiz has em for $260 shipped....

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ClubIT has them for $242 shipped: http://www.clubit.com/product_detail...temno=A4838942

Hope this turns out to be the best of the best!!!

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Originally Posted by BAR*B*Q

first high fsb try....cpu is breaking me out i suppose.

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/1556/475cropnn0.jpg

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you're using the faster (1066) strap, right?

and is this PS2 keyboard problem common?

Has anyone else got the new BIOS(16/11/06)? My idle temps seem to increase by 4 degrees with it?

ClubIT's are down to $235.00

http://www.clubit.com/product_detail...temno=A4838942

But they are out :(

Looks like I might ask for this for Christmas over the Abit AW9D-MAX, this or a 680i. Nice clocks and compare Supertim0r, and nice clocks everyone else, I just love watching C2D's fly!

That is pretty slow pi for 3.8 and such a high FSB. What are your RAM timings? Does the reduced cache make that much difference?

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Originally Posted by BAR*B*Q

first high fsb try....cpu is breaking me out i suppose.

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/1556/475cropnn0.jpg

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The first question was asking if you will inform the product maker of the voltage reset to get them to fix the problem.

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I highly doubt that reseting the voltage is a BIOS issue.

Everest is just another program to the operating system.
Just because it operates incorectly on the BaxAx1/2 does not mean the BIOS of the board is wrong.

Everest is a program tampering with the voltage.
After a program terminates, the bios has no responsibilty to set/reset a voltage to any value.

Do you think when Microsoft word terminates, the bios says "oh gee what voltage should I run at?" No.

Contact the makers of Everest!

Gwillakers: If it was an everest problem then the incident of resetting the voltages would not be limited to the bad axe 1 or bad axe 2 board. It may not be but with the data I have now of it mainly happening with these two boards it sounds more like the board makers forgot to shove in a safety to prevent this from happening.

Been reading this thread, and also wanted to know, if you would recommend this board when it comes to terms of 3D stability when OCed. Also, can I get it easily up to 4Ghz with say Corsair XMS2 800Mhz CL4 and E6600? Do you think for such case P4B DLX would be better? Same? Better perf with Bad Axe 2?
If so, I am off to the shop :slobber:

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Originally Posted by Teratism

Gwillakers: If it was an everest problem then the incident of resetting the voltages would not be limited to the bad axe 1 or bad axe 2 board. It may not be but with the data I have now of it mainly happening with these two boards it sounds more like the board makers forgot to shove in a safety to prevent this from happening.

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Safety to prevent this from Happening? ???

If you want to prevent it from happening ... then stop running the buggy program!

It is the program that is in control! Everest changed the voltage!!!

The Bios does not reset voltages when programs terminate.

If I write a program that makes an annoying beep when run on an ASUS board, would you blame ASUS for the noise?

As to Everest and Sandra having the same issue, well it wouldn't be the first time one vendor lifted code from a competitor... bugs and all.
{Note, I am NOT stating that either manufacturer did something illicit, there are many forms of code sharing agreements in the industry}

I just think that as a consumer, one has a responsibility of placing blame where it belongs. One should not be too quick to state that this is a problem of vendor X, when in fact it could be a problem of vendor Y.

It is an issue that one could reasonably raise with both vendors, but my money would be on it being a problem with the writer of the failing application.

Gwillakers: I will agree blame should not be immediately placed on one or the other vendor and if possible both should be asked to correct this issue if it is their fault.

The Everest developers told me that it was a BIOS issue. I've heard of no other board doing this. Moreover, this happened on the badaxe 1 with Speedfan and CPU-Z also.

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Originally Posted by heikis

you're using the faster (1066) strap, right?

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yup, its default strap

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Originally Posted by uclajd

That is pretty slow pi for 3.8 and such a high FSB. What are your RAM timings? Does the reduced cache make that much difference?

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ya, it does prettey much @ 1M

what app do u guys to check vcore in windows?

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Originally Posted by alejo

The Everest developers told me that it was a BIOS issue.

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Well you are gonna get far with a response like that.


Did you ask him for specifics as to what code was broken?

What BIOS call was being made? What parameters did the function take?
What were the values that were expected to be returned?

What "Documented" Interface was the application vendor using that he feels failed?

Their are documented BIOS interfaces for things like A) reading Harddisk sectors, B) setting times and dates, C) beeping the speeker...
but I know of no "published" specifications for setting voltages on the motherboard.

Without published specifications, application vendors try to "hack" into the
system. Try to figure out what snippets of program code are really doing.
Problem is they often guess wrong. Maybe they were sucessfull for deciphering something in an Award BIOS or Pheonix, but maybe it's different in Intel.

You see...it's not really an Intel problem untill you can prove it to them it is an Intel problem. And then they WILL take ownership of it. Read the Errata sheet for your motherboard. There you can find out all pending problems, whether it is planned to be fixed by a BIOS, or a Hardware change, or not fixed at all.

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Originally Posted by GWillakers

Well you are gonna get far with a response like that.


Did you ask him for specifics as to what code was broken?

What BIOS call was being made? What parameters did the function take?
What were the values that were expected to be returned?

What "Documented" Interface was the application vendor using that he feels failed?

Their are documented BIOS interfaces for things like A) reading Harddisk sectors, B) setting times and dates, C) beeping the speeker...
but I know of no "published" specifications for setting voltages on the motherboard.

Without published specifications, application vendors try to "hack" into the
system. Try to figure out what snippets of program code are really doing.
Problem is they often guess wrong. Maybe they were sucessfull for deciphering something in an Award BIOS or Pheonix, but maybe it's different in Intel.

You see...it's not really an Intel problem untill you can prove it to them it is an Intel problem. And then they WILL take ownership of it. Read the Errata sheet for your motherboard. There you can find out all pending problems, whether it is planned to be fixed by a BIOS, or a Hardware change, or not fixed at all.

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They were not very forthcoming with info and even if they were to provide me with anything, I wouldn't know what the heck to do with it anyway. I'm just an end user. I asked if they could maybe take it up with intel, but they said that they are not in contact with them.

Anyway, sorry for the derail. I was just curious if the Badaxe2 had this issue also.

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Originally Posted by tjelaw

what app do u guys to check vcore in windows?

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For intel boards, use their Intel Desktop Utilities.

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Originally Posted by Teratism

How exactly did everest reset your voltage? Also does this mean you recommend this board?

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Yep, it will. I already did post it before on my Blog (and on Eva's posting). You can find link here: http://sleektech.nl/~dm/review/intel...x-note-04.html

Eva's post: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=122350&page=2

Use Intel's supplied utility, IDU (Intel(r) Desktop Utility) to measure environmental settings in Windows.

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Originally Posted by GWillakers

Well you are gonna get far with a response like that.


Did you ask him for specifics as to what code was broken?

What BIOS call was being made? What parameters did the function take?
What were the values that were expected to be returned?

What "Documented" Interface was the application vendor using that he feels failed?

Their are documented BIOS interfaces for things like A) reading Harddisk sectors, B) setting times and dates, C) beeping the speeker...
but I know of no "published" specifications for setting voltages on the motherboard.

Without published specifications, application vendors try to "hack" into the
system. Try to figure out what snippets of program code are really doing.
Problem is they often guess wrong. Maybe they were sucessfull for deciphering something in an Award BIOS or Pheonix, but maybe it's different in Intel.

You see...it's not really an Intel problem untill you can prove it to them it is an Intel problem. And then they WILL take ownership of it. Read the Errata sheet for your motherboard. There you can find out all pending problems, whether it is planned to be fixed by a BIOS, or a Hardware change, or not fixed at all.

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Sounds like you are the best man for this job. My suspicion is that whomever you talk to on the other end will be like ummm, huh? :confused: Those tech support peons will have no clue what you are talking about and will have no desire to get you to the person that does.

death metal: Thanks for the heads up.

gwillakers: I checked the errata sheet from the intel website. They have none or so the guide says.

Can we stop squabbling over a peice of software?

Supertim0r >> Any updates on how things are going with the board?

I just put an order in for one and am very looking forward to playing with it :)

yes, installed the kentsfield but I hit a wall at 390fsb

Well... Ive been playing around with mine, and it not what I expected.
The OC-ing performance is okay so far, 370x10 with 6700 ES, fsb:mem 1:1.
But nothing my P5W-DH couldnt do. Im own a rev. 503 btw

My findings:
- vdroop is not that bad, but not as excellent as tim0r says. (note that using the advanced power slope feature helps!)

- I find the overclocking feature pretty frustrating and disappointing. If you set a too high setting, and it wont boot, you will have to clear/config the bios manually by turning of power and switching jumpers EVERY TIME. As where the P5W just automatically uses safe settings when boot or post fails.

This is very very very very f:banana:ing annoying, especially since OC-ing in windows is not yet possible, because of the new PLL IC.

I can see myself trying to find the best vcore-vMCH-fsb ratio and having to switch jumpers 50 times every evening. And its not placed in a easily reachable place!

- The BIOS freezes very often while adjusting settings. ctrl-alt-del helps to reboot. But it seems very buggy. Having had to try 5 times to change vcore from 1.55 to 1.6. NOTE: this also happends with perfectly stable stock/default settings. I already updated to the latest bios

- CPU multi is NOT adjustable, at least it isnt for me. The option is shown in bios, but isnt selectable.

New bios plz?

More to come

Anyone that has this board have an X-FI? Are there any issues with it and the BA2? I've been contemplating dumping my 680i and have been looking at this board. Any feedback?

Thanks.

Shawn

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Originally Posted by shawn1998

Anyone that has this board have an X-FI? Are there any issues with it and the BA2? I've been contemplating dumping my 680i and have been looking at this board. Any feedback?

Thanks.

Shawn

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BX2 @ stock with X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Pro. No probs so far, but I only tried it in Oblivion and a couple of other games. There is one minor issue, but I guess it's Xfi software related: in gaming mode if you change any settings in the THX control panel the channels get re-mapped (e.g. front left disappears, rear left gets mapped to sub). If you don't touch THX all is fine, though. (5.1)

Thanks.

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Well... Ive been playing around with mine, and it not what I expected.
The OC-ing performance is okay so far, 370x10 with 6700 ES, fsb:mem 1:1.
But nothing my P5W-DH couldnt do. Im own a rev. 503 btw

My findings:
- vdroop is not that bad, but not as excellent as tim0r says. (note that using the advanced power slope feature helps!)

- I find the overclocking feature pretty frustrating and disappointing. If you set a too high setting, and it wont boot, you will have to clear/config the bios manually by turning of power and switching jumpers EVERY TIME. As where the P5W just automatically uses safe settings when boot or post fails.

This is very very very very f:banana:ing annoying, especially since OC-ing in windows is not yet possible, because of the new PLL IC.

I can see myself trying to find the best vcore-vMCH-fsb ratio and having to switch jumpers 50 times every evening. And its not placed in a easily reachable place!

- The BIOS freezes very often while adjusting settings. ctrl-alt-del helps to reboot. But it seems very buggy. Having had to try 5 times to change vcore from 1.55 to 1.6. NOTE: this also happends with perfectly stable stock/default settings. I already updated to the latest bios

- CPU multi is NOT adjustable, at least it isnt for me. The option is shown in bios, but isnt selectable.

New bios plz?

More to come

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anybody else with those problems?

and has anybody used badaxe2 on e6400 or e6300? i have my e6400 waiting for a board and im not sure if it will fly on the baxe2

-yes, you need to reset cmos everytime an oc fail
it's annoying but it's new board, early bios

I made a switch to reset the cmos this summer for Bad Axe 304...using it on the bx2 now so I don't have to move the tiny jumper everytime my oc fail

-the vdroop is VERY small for me (YRMV)

-X-Fi = no problems for me :)

-I can only adjust multi on Kentsfield Q6600ES, not on E6600ES

Before I make my order at ZipZoom, could you look at my list and see if any conflicts/problems. :)
To Buy:
Badaxe2
6600
8800 gtx (evga)
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I've have bought:
ufo
storm
mcp355
pa120.3
turbo cool 1k (24 pin atx,8 pin cpu,2 x 6 pin pcie)
loon fans & baybus & rheobus
..............
Still need:
couple of raptors
dvd/cd rw
sata cables , etc
..............
My 1st build, has taken year to accumalate, Will probably use retail fan then
switch to storm when system is up and running stable. First hurdle would be to put it all together and run stock. My two teenage boys would love to play
Oblivion first before I start tweeking/ocing and burn it up. ( Have hipro mem smoker too ) :p:

thanks

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Grain_Man

To Buy:
6600

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Why not pay a few dollars more and get a Xeon 3060 (higher quality E6600)?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=122224

bofors . Thanks
3060 looks interesting. I'll give it a try. :clap:

My Bad Axe 2 from ZZF should be here monday. Naturally I'll torture it and post results.

Again, nice work Supertim0r:)

Looks like there might be a replacement for the XBX I bought off you:banana:

Still haveta wait for RD600 and make the choice then, but it is nice to know your results.