Twins - 640MB Gainward Bliss 8800GTS Dual DVI (G80 series)

640MB Gainward Bliss 8800GTS Dual DVI

The temptation to try out the new Nvidia G80 series was just all too great. So I hooked myself up with twins - 2x 640MB Gainward Bliss 8800GTS Dual DVI :D Unfortunately, no SLI until someone or Nvidia provides SLI drivers for 8800 series on 975x/965P chipset motherboards :( So single 8800GTS tests below :)

http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/vid...800GTS_001.jpg

http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/vid...800GTS_002.jpg http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/vid...800GTS_005.jpg http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/vid...800GTS_008.jpg http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/vid...800GTS_009.jpg

http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/vid...800GTS_011.jpg http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/vid...800GTS_013.jpg http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/vid...800GTS_015.jpg http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/vid...800GTS_020.jpg

The 640MB Gainward Bliss 8800GTS Dual DVI cards run at stock speeds of 513/1584 and CD-ROM came with 91.47 and 96.89 Forceware drivers as well as Expert Tool to overclock the video card. Expert Tool overclocking feature allows a max of 670Mhz GPU core and 1900Mhz Memory clocks.

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...tool_info1.jpg http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...tool_info3.jpg

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...erformance.jpg http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...ol_fantemp.jpg

Card #1 temps with room temps of 26C
Idle = 53-54C
Load = 63C for 3Dmark06 and 73C max for ATI Tool show 3D window test loop for 20 mins.

Card #2 temps with room temps of 26.3C
Idle = 47-52C
Load = 61C for 3Dmark06 and 69-72C max for ATI Tool show 3D window test loop for 20 mins.

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...a_cp_temps.jpg

System:

• Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield QUPT B3 Step 7
• Corsair Hydrocool 200EX
• Intel D975XBX Badaxe rev304 1441 bios
• 2x1GB Gskill PC6400PHU2 2GBHZ Micron D9GMH 0629 batch
• 3x320GB Seagate 7200.10 SATAII Matrix Raid 0
• Gigabyte I-RAM with 1.5GB Kingston KHX3200 Winbond BH-5
• Pioneer DVD-RW
• FDD
• 1KW PCP&C SLI PSU

Single 640MB Gainward Bliss 8800GTS Dual DVI

Stock speeds @513/1584

3Dmark06 - Control panel quality = High Performance
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...ck_9337_tn.png

3Dmark05 - Control panel quality = High Performance
= 12,881

3Dmark2003 - Control panel quality = High Performance
= 24,691

3Dmark2001 - Control panel quality = High Performance
= 41,115

Overclocked @650/1900
After a while ATI Tool caused slowness in performance for the card, 3Dmark2001 slowed to 14k score! So removed ATI Tool, reinstalled 96.89 drivers and only used Gainward Expert tool to overclock the video card.

Gainward Expert tool slider for memory was maxed out at 1900Mhz. While GPU core was clocked at easy 650Mhz.

3Dmark06 - Control panel quality = High Performance
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...0_10882_tn.png

3Dmark05 - Control panel quality = High Performance
= 14,332

3Dmark2003 - Control panel quality = High Performance
= 30,058

3Dmark2001 - Control panel quality = High Performance
= 43,438

See how it compares to stock X6800 speeds of 2.93Ghz.

Overclocked Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield cpu to 9x325FSB = 2927Mhz.
Single 640MB Gainward Bliss 8800GTS Dual DVI

Stock speeds @513/1584

3Dmark06 - Control panel quality = High Performance
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...84_9556_tn.png

Overclocked @650/1900

3Dmark06 - Control panel quality = High Performance
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...1900_11448.png

Overclocked @650/2050

3Dmark06 - Control panel quality = High Performance

3Dmark06 = 11,680
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=640724

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...0_11680_tn.png




Moving the 8800GTS cards over to my E6600 + Asus P5B Deluxe system for further tests :)

System:

• Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe QPGE B1 Step 5
• Swiftech G4 Storm/Thermochill 120.3/MCP650 + Kayl 100W Custom PSU
• Asus P5B Deluxe 0804 bios (upgraded from 0405 bios)
• 640MB Gainward Bliss 8800GTS Dual DVI with 96.89 drivers
• 2GB OCZ PC2-8000 Titanium Alpha VX2 Micron D9GKX
• 500GB Seagate 7200.10 SATAII
• Gigabyte I-RAM with 1.5GB Kingston KHX3200 Winbond BH-5
• LiteOn 165H DVD-ROM
• FDD
• 1KW OCZ ProXStream 1000PXS Quad PCI-E psu

Stock E6600 @2400Mhz +
640MB Gainward Bliss 8800GTS Dual DVI stock @513/1584

click images for full screenshots

3Dmark06 = 8,374 vs Q6600 stock 9,337
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5B...84_8374_tn.png

3Dmark05 = 13,974 vs Q6600 stock 12,881
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5B...4_13974_tn.png

3Dmark2003= 25201 vs Q6600 stock 24,691
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5B...4_25201_tn.png

3Dmark2001= 43,278 vs Q6600 stock 41,115
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5B...4_43278_tn.png

Seems Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 B1 cpu beat Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @2400Mhz speeds in all but 3Dmark06 tests. Whether that is due to different motherboard chipsets, I will find out when I test Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 on the same Asus P5B Deluxe motherboard.

Overclocked @650/2050

3Dmark06
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5B...25_9881_tn.png

3Dmark05
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5B...0_14948_tn.png

3Dmark2003
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5B...0_31073_tn.png

3Dmark2001
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5B...0_45536_tn.png

Overclocked E6600 @9x430FSB = 3878Mhz (clockgen from 400FSB)
+
640MB Gainward Bliss 8800GTS Dual DVI SLI

@650/2050

3Dmark06
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5B...5_11211_tn.png

3Dmark05
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5B...0_19472_tn.png

3Dmark2003
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5B...0_32827_tn.png

3Dmark2001
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5B...0_64537_tn.png

Aquamark3
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5B..._205712_tn.png

me asus 8800gts gets about the same score at 660/1000 (the score sm2.0 :4711 hdr/sm.03: 4683)... :)

need to get me some more power on my cpu do :rolleyes:

i got 10850 on 3DMark06 with E6400 @ 3.4GHz and 8800GTS @ 660/1030

i aint spending $300 just for that little 400 points...

$300 for what ? all above are single 8800GTS results not SLI

for E6600, i have a E6400 3.4GHz + single 8800GTS 660/2030 and scored 10850 on 3dmark06

u had E6600 OC to 3.9GHz,

RAM only gives u little boost. I remember changing multiplier from DDR2 800 to DDR2 1000 was like a 50 points difference..

which drivers you using ? just goes to show how cpu limited it is with G80 series even with Core 2 Duo cpus :)

What about 3dmark05/2003 ?

8800GTX Single 651/1050
E6600 @ 436*9 1:1 @ 3-3-3-4

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=649388

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2342455

i got 10956 whit cpu: e6600 @ 3609 mb: p5b dlx mem: 2gb duelchanel 1:1 at 5,5,5,15 asus 8800gts @ 660/1000 96.89.. havent done any tweaking.. just a litle oc..


SM 2.0 Score 4711 Marks
SM 3.0 Score 4683 Marks
CPU Score 3177 Marks

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?c=4131100_2

Awesome results Eva. I enjoyed reading your review more than most of the reviews on others sites on this card. I really enjoy seeing you keep the E6600 at 2.4ghz. Judging by your cpu scores in 06 its is right on par to what my 4800+ gets at 2.83ghz. Nice to see what I could be getting on my system as compared to the outrageous scores others are getting with C2D systems.

Wondering EVA, would you be willing to upload that Expert tool for others to try out? I understand all the 8800's are manufactured from the same source so I would think the tool would work on any branded 8800. Seems much more fool proof to use that program than Atitool, ntune etc. I like how there is a checkbox to keep settings upon reboot.

just use ATI tool or ntune

ntune:
cant load overclock/fan speed during startup... cant evne load any profile, so that means reoverclock every time u reboot

ATI Tool .25 beta 15 :
CAN load overclock profile during startup, but no fan control...

Rivatuner 2 RC 16.01
same as ATI Tool. It has fan control, but its fan control dont work... and u have to ForceVGADevice 92 to overclock. it does load overclock during startup.

I still think this Expertool will be better as it seems to be made just for overclocking this current generation of cards. I really can't see something of that calibre taking up a lot of hd space or having a large memory footprint. If it can do clocks and fan settings in one with settings being kept at reboot then I see no need for anything else, especially multiple programs each doing something different.

eva could you get us some benchies at a resolution of 1680x1050 - or 1600x1200 depending on your aspect ratio :) -and higher with high IQ (such as 16x AF, etc) . I wanna see how these cards react at high rez with some high IQ :).
If you could that would be awesome! Those are some nice results btw :)

Do these have the 1.2ns memoiry on them then, rather than 1.2 ?

Regards

Andy

good bench

George great as always

where is that 680i of yours......................mine is getting sent tomorrow.....so probably another week for it to get here from US.....i'm sharpening my pencil for RAM tweaking........(shamelessly) looking forward to some master tips from ya ;) :cool:

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8800GTX Single 651/1050
E6600 @ 436*9 1:1 @ 3-3-3-4

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=649388

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2342455

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where in this thread does it ask you to post your 8800GTX results.....what's going on with these kids today......seriously....htf do you just rock up to a thread of eva's and just slap your scores without any into and discussion......:slap: what is the purpose of you post mate

I'll try and find expert tool on the cd-rom - it isn't labeled as Expert tool so harder to find on the cd-rom as it has it's own auto run GUI install interface etc

it's meant to have 1.1ns memory but haven't checked to see if it does have it.. both my cards do 2050mhz on memory so :)

High res 1600x1200 benchies come much later.. doing the Power-Mate power draw tests right now for the rig http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=3229 i.e. http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=3262 but with my above rig instead.

dinos, no 680i for me right now, waiting on local eVGA disty to have some review samples return back to them before sending me one 680i + 8800GTX to test... hence why i purchased 8800GTS to tie me over.. it's nearing Xmas and Aussie disty/retailers will close for Xmas within 3-5 weeks for between 1-2 months heh

Ok thanks Eva, I would appreciate the try on looking for Expertool. I am sure others here would like to try it out as well.

Expert Tool download here (5.8MB) :)

Power-Mate power meter test
Power-Mate power meter used to measure total system power draw from mains wall socket.

http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/pow...ermate_004.jpg

System:

• Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe QPGE B1 Step 5
• Swiftech G4 Storm/Thermochill 120.3/MCP650 + Kayl 100W Custom PSU
• Asus P5B Deluxe 0804 bios (upgraded from 0405 bios)
• 640MB Gainward Bliss 8800GTS Dual DVI with 96.89 drivers
• 2GB OCZ PC2-8000 Titanium Alpha VX2 Micron D9GKX
• 500GB Seagate 7200.10 SATAII
• Gigabyte I-RAM with 1.5GB Kingston KHX3200 Winbond BH-5
• LiteOn 165H DVD-ROM
• FDD
• 3x 120x25mm 76cfm 0.4A fans
• 1KW OCZ ProXStream 1000PXS Quad PCI-E psu

Peak power draw values (Watts)

2400Mhz - 9x266FSB at 1.35v bios set with 8800GTS stock 513/1584

• Windows Boot up = 195.5W (0.934A)
• Windows Idle = 176.1W to 181.4W
• Opening CPUZ = power spike to 198.1W
• Stressprime Orthos Small FFTs Load = 220.7W (1.007A)
• TAT internal cpu load test = 225.7W (1.035A)
• PCmark05 = 240.6W (1.083A)
• 3Dmark06 = 247.4W (1.127A)
• ATI Tool 0.25 Beta 16 Show 3D View load = 251.3W (1.146A)
• ATI Tool Show 3D View + Stressprime Orthos Small FFTs Load = 270.2W (1.219A)

2400Mhz with 8800GTS oc' from 513/1584 to 650/2050

• Windows Idle = 181.4W to 183.8W
• Opening CPUZ = power spike to 199.3W
• Stressprime Orthos Small FFTs Load = 220.9W
• TAT internal cpu load test = 229.9W (1.046A)
• PCmark05 = 254.7W (1.149A)
• 3Dmark06 = 264.7W (1.202A)
• ATI Tool 0.25 Beta 16 Show 3D View load = 274.4W (1.233A)
• ATI Tool Show 3D View + Stressprime Orthos Small FFTs Load = 288.3W (1.297A)

Note, there's no direct comparison to http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=3262 as different power supplies were used with different rated efficiency levels as well as different hardware configurations.

Oc'd E6600 results coming soon... :)

quad core got same score(SM2 and SM3) as E6600 Stock so where is the CPU limit that is GPU limit
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yeah GPU limit... but remember i used different motherboards for Q6600 tests than for E6600

Q6600 was on D975XBX
E6600 on P5B Deluxe

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yeah GPU limit... but remember i used different motherboards for Q6600 tests than for E6600

Q6600 was on D975XBX
E6600 on P5B Deluxe

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So you proved my point I have been saying that 3GHZ opty is enough run 8800GTS with ease but every body said Conroe is must
As far as I know 975 is better in 06 So still advantage for Q6600
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to each his own.. everybody's is different... my ease is 12k at least in 3dmark06 for single 8800GTS :D

But 3dmark06 isn't the end all, gaming would of different too.. just a conroe would flog an opteron :)

I can see same frames in all games that means less than 5% in real world gaming
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Awesome info. as usual eva :toast:

Thanks for sharing.

Thanks for the download Eva, really appreciated. Hopefully users of other manufacturers cards will let us know what they come up with using Expertool.

So did the Expert Tool work with other brands ?

good question, I was hoping to hear back an answer too.

On ya eva2000 the Expert Tool works with my Albatron 8800GTX.

Oh god I can't wait to see the twins come out and play :D

Say Daffy67, can you set clocks and fan speed and have them stick after a reboot?

Fan speed stayed but overclock did not upon re-boot.

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So did the Expert Tool work with other brands ?

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didn't work on my SLI setup. maybe because i have 2 differant cards.

Single Gainward Bliss 8800GTS Stock hsf @650/2050

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5B...0_12055_tn.png

eva can u run a fast 01 with LODS ? with X6800 @ stock :D plz
thx in advance blind

never owned a X6800 hehe

why don't you use hacked drivers for SLI on 965/975..........Sam's had them up for a while here :toast:

hacked drivers don't work with 8800 series :(

8x.xx drivers don't support 8800 series, yea

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Originally Posted by theteamaqua

for E6600, i have a E6400 3.4GHz + single 8800GTS 660/2030 and scored 10850 on 3dmark06

u had E6600 OC to 3.9GHz,

RAM only gives u little boost. I remember changing multiplier from DDR2 800 to DDR2 1000 was like a 50 points difference..

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4mb cache = + 3K in 2001 :)

Just wait till eva starts using SS :) Allendale @ 4.5+Ghz SS benchable is not possible yet :)

Got my Gainward 8800 GTS Bliss a couple of days ago.

Got it mounted on my P5B DLX / E6600 / Team Extreem PC8000.
It´s right on par with your 3dmk05 results eva

http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/...2063c4bb2b.jpg



Used Expert Tool for starters...gpu seemse to be maxed out but the memory has got more to give.
Read over at Guru3d forums that there´s coming out a new version of Rivatuner next week v.16.2 fully supporting G80 cards and a working fancontroler. Will be pushing the memory further when it´s due out.

nice.... play with GPU clocks and monitor the resulting fps for each score as i found at 660Mhz GPU i got slightly lower score than at 650Mhz :)

eva, how is your card/cards mounted? in case or on a "bench rigg"...?

Got my stuff in a Lian-Li PC6070 and I got some serious heat coming out of that card and it´s affecting the rest off my rigg...even thou I have pretty eficient case cooling.
Under load my card temp is in the hight 70s C...doesn´t feel like the "fan controler" is really working as expected.

bench rig... 4 out of 6 of my pcs are caseless... haven't needed a case for past 4+ yrs LOL

Get a fan over the video card.. zalman fan bracket is my friend ;) :)

but 70C is normal i say

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bench rig... 4 out of 6 of my pcs are caseless... haven't needed a case for past 4+ yrs LOL

Get a fan over the video card.. zalman fan bracket is my friend ;) :)

but 70C is normal i say

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thats the spirit:toast:

Hey eva, I can't get the GPU more than 630 without crashing, the mem seems fine at 1900. I'm using the ATI Tool Beta 16 Pre 7 (I think) and tried Expert Tool as well. At 650 it crashed even when only running the 3D cube. Using 96.89.

Any ideas? I got the same Gainward btw. :confused:

i used ATI Tool beta 16 pre8.. try lowering mem clock for higher GPU clock until you find the right balance :)

So is there anyway to make the OCs and fan speed stick after each reboot. I heard that there is a way to make coolbits work with the 8800 series through a NVTray hack.

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Originally Posted by eva2000

i used ATI Tool beta 16 pre8.. try lowering mem clock for higher GPU clock until you find the right balance :)

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Thanks, which one matters the most? Having higher Core or higher memory? :)

tranceaddict i used my gainward expert tool to set fan speed

Rudyn, depends you really need to test each combo for best results to find the balance between gpu and mem

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So is there anyway to make the OCs and fan speed stick after each reboot. I heard that there is a way to make coolbits work with the 8800 series through a NVTray hack.

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Correct, use 97.02 drivers, install the coolbits registry entry. Then install latest NVTray. Upon loading NVtray select to use the old control panel. This will allow you change clocks on the 8800 via control panel on the new drivers for the 8800. You can select clocks to stick on reboot however fan settings still do not work. Use Expertool for that as you can have that program stick the fan speeds on reboot. If you use NVtray with the old control panel you will lose the functionality of the new Coverage based AA. To remedy this you must now install Ntune JUST for the purpose of changing the new AA modes. Pain in the ass I know having all three programs installed but it works apparently. Yes I know, I haven't tried it, just sharing with you what I learned from reading around.

BTW, new Rivatuner 16.2 is out which supposedly has full 8800 support give that a try. New 97.28 drivers for the 8800 are also out for your testing pleasure. Good luck!

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Correct, use 97.02 drivers, install the coolbits registry entry. Then install latest NVTray. Upon loading NVtray select to use the old control panel. This will allow you change clocks on the 8800 via control panel on the new drivers for the 8800. You can select clocks to stick on reboot however fan settings still do not work. Use Expertool for that as you can have that program stick the fan speeds on reboot. If you use NVtray with the old control panel you will lose the functionality of the new Coverage based AA. To remedy this you must now install Ntune JUST for the purpose of changing the new AA modes. Pain in the ass I know having all three programs installed but it works apparently. Yes I know, I haven't tried it, just sharing with you what I learned from reading around.

BTW, new Rivatuner 16.2 is out which supposedly has full 8800 support give that a try. New 97.28 drivers for the 8800 are also out for your testing pleasure. Good luck!

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Thanks a lot for a that info. I have been waiting a long time for both the new Nvida drivers as well as Rivatuner 16.2. BTW, can you please post a link to Rivatuner 16.2, as I can't find it anywhere. Thanks

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Originally Posted by tranceaddict

Thanks a lot for a that info. I have been waiting a long time for both the new Nvida drivers as well as Rivatuner 16.2. BTW, can you please post a link to Rivatuner 16.2, as I can't find it anywhere. Thanks

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njoi!

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download...7b9127221cea80

Yeah can confirm Rivatuner 16RC2 works on 8800GTS

trying 97.02 drivers right now

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5B...0_19630_tn.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5B...0_32888_tn.png

Yeah...I would strongly recommend the new Rivatuner...works perfect. An the working fancontroler is very nice.

This is all on air with an ambient temp at about 20C.

GPU - 666mhz
GDDR - 2096mhz
http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/...fa528ec000.jpg

I take it all settings stick after reboot?

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I take it all settings stick after reboot?

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Yepp...it sure does.

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Originally Posted by Naughtyboy

Yepp...it sure does.

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That is good to know, what a relief.

Well had to dust off old DFI NF4 Ultra-D for SLI since no SLI core2 board here yet heh.

http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/cpu...finity_002.jpg http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/cpu...finity_006.jpg http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/cpu...finity_008.jpg http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/cpu...finity_011.jpg

System:

• FX-60 CCB2E 0536RPMW
• Scythe Infinity + Thermaltake 120x25mm 81cfm fan
• DFI NF4 Ultra-D R.AD0 0406 Bios (SLI modded)
• 1x/2x 640MB Gainward Bliss 8800GTS Dual DVI
• 2GB OCZ PC4000EB 3-3-2-8
• 160GB Seagate 7200.7 SATAII NCQ
• Pioneer DVD-RW
• 600W OCZ EvoStream Modular

FX-60 stock speeds
8800GTS SLI @650/2010

3dmark06
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_Ul...5_10256_tn.png

3dmark05
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_Ul...0_14785_tn.png

3dmark2003 @635/2010
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_Ul...0_46581_tn.png

FX-60 @3006Mhz
8800GTS SLI @650/2010

3dmark06
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_Ul...0_11739_tn.png

3dmark05
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_Ul...0_17340_tn.png

3dmark2003 @625/1950
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_Ul...0_48108_tn.png

Guess even 3dmark05 is cpu limited here :)

Here's some feedback with a OCed GTX and E6600 stock and OC. I used nTune to OC.


E6600 @ 3716MHz Single 8800GTX @ 644|1020 = 12493

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2...637agm2.th.jpg

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=695297

E6600 @ 3404MHz Single 8800GTX 644|1020 = 12226
http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/3...0634rs4.th.jpg

E6600 @ 2403MHz Single 8800GTX 644|1020 = 10668
http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/2...0624ok9.th.jpg

The SM 2|3 scores do not increase from 3.4GHz-3.6GHz, they do from 2.4GHz to 3.4GHz. For example, 430+ points are gained in SM 2.0 performance from 2.4-3.4. Not a huge deal and nice to see a fast CPU does actually impact performance of the card when its clock remains the same.

is it just me or os gts sli not worth over single gtx?
(based on last 2 post and dx9)

no... remember 8800GTS SLI results above are cpu limited by FX-60.. core2 cpu would show much higher performance for 8800GTS SLI probably 4-5k extra in 3dmark06 compared with FX-60 so 15.5k 3dmark06 vs 11.7k 3dmark06 for 8800GTS SLI :)

wow cool card

thanks

Seems like alot of the recommended SLI power supply specs are specified for 8800GTX SLI and not many are clear for 8800GTS SLI so time for some Power-mate power draw measurements with 8800GTS SLI installed to see what really is being consumed wattage wise :)

AFAIK, 8800GTS SLI has same or similar power requirements as 7950GX2 video card ?

As you can see for single PCI-E spaced DFI NF4 Ultra-D, having 2x 8800GTS SLI just fits :)

http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/cpu...TS_SLI_003.jpg http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/cpu...TS_SLI_006.jpg http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/cpu...TS_SLI_009.jpg http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/cpu...TS_SLI_011.jpg

FX-60 stock with 8800GTS SLI stock windows start up system power draw = 277.3 Watts.
http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/cpu...TS_SLI_013.jpg

System:

• FX-60 CCB2E 0536RPMW
• Scythe Infinity + Thermaltake 120x25mm 81cfm fan
• DFI NF4 Ultra-D R.AD0 0406 Bios (SLI modded)
• 2x 640MB Gainward Bliss 8800GTS Dual DVI with Thermaltake 120x25mm 81cfm 0.33A fan on top
• 2GB OCZ PC4000EB 3-3-2-8 with 120x25mm Delta 75cfm 0.4A fan
• 160GB Seagate 7200.7 SATAII NCQ
• Gigabyte I-RAM with 1.5GB Kingston KHX3200 Winbond BH-5
• Pioneer DVD-RW
• 600W OCZ EvoStream Modular

Power-Mate Peak power draw measurements


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@2612Mhz - 13x200HTT at 1.35v bios (1.312v)

8800GTS SLI @513/1584 stock
PC/Windows start up = 277.3W (1.286A)
Stressprime Orthos Small FFTs = 297.4W (1.314A)
3Dmark06 = 370.9W (1.629A)
PCMark05 = 322.4W (1.426A)

8800GTS SLI @650/2010
Stressprime Orthos Small FFTs = 307.1W (1.388A)
3Dmark06 = 408.9W* (1.842A) (DMM measured +12v rail min/max/average = 12.22v/12.23v/12.228v)
PCMark05 = 354.1W (1.555A)

* Seems 3Dmark06's HDR/SM3.0 HDR1 test - Canyon test draws the most system power draw in 8800GTS SLI config. While rest of time 3Dmark06 fluctuated between 340-390W system power draw.


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@3006Mhz - 9x334HTT at 1.45v bios (1.408v)

8800GTS SLI @513/1584 stock
PC/Windows start up = 308.2W (1.318A)
Windows Idle = 235.2W
Stressprime Orthos Small FFTs = 337.5W (1.514A) (DMM measured +12v rail min/max/average = 12.23v/12.23v/12.23v)
3Dmark06 = 395.7W (1.757A)
PCMark05 = 345.1W (1.529A)

8800GTS SLI @650/2010
Stressprime Orthos Small FFTs = 297.4W (1.314A)
3Dmark06 = 433.4W (1.934A)
PCMark05 = 375.8W (1.697A)

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Looks like 600W OCZ EvoStream should be able to handle 8800GTS SLI without problems. Specs for 600W OCZ EvoStream power supply

http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/pow...stream_036.jpg

Some info to think about.

For those that are wondering in theory:
* FX-60 stock has TDP = 110W
* FX-60 @3006Mhz at 1.45v = ~147W
* Intel Core 2 Duo E6300-6700 = 65W
* Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 @3600Mhz at 1.45v = ~113W
* Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 = 75W

A single 8800GTS has following requirements according to the box:

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A 400W PCI Express-compliant system power supply with a combined 12V current rating of 26A or more (Minimum system power requirement based on a typical PC configured with an Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 processor)

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X6800 is around 75 or 6.25A so that leaves 19-20A for single 8800GTS and rest of the system components.

We know from Anandtech testing that a single 8800GTX uses approximately 10W more at idle and 20-30W more under load than a 8800GTS http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2873


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Originally Posted by BlaqMale

is it just me or os gts sli not worth over single gtx?
(based on last 2 post and dx9)

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What Eva said. Also IMO in depends on what resolution you game and the level of filtering you use. I just game @ 1680x with high levels of filtering and my GTX goes through that like a hot knife through butter. I clock 46-60FPS in heavy foliage areas in Oblivion @ said res using 4x AA + HDR Supersampling Transparency AA and 16x AF. I also use a LOD pak and custom config file that makes the game more demanding. That is more than satisfactory performance for me.

If you game @ 1920x and up with high levels of filtering, I can see 8800GTS SLi being worth it.

Nice showdown... and as usual a detailed treat for many of us, EVA u rock ;)

Nice little review here Eva.. I love the diversity youve showed, and power loads are interesting also..

Anyone know who hacked the drivers to work in SLI for older 7XXX series of cards?

Maybe hes working on a new release, id love to see these in SLI..

Fugger has em in SLI, howd he do it?

thanks guys.. updated the system power draw post a tad :)

FUGGER used 8800GTX SLI on 680i board not intel 975x/965p heh

Looking good eva with 2xGTS ;)

I bought the Gainward GTS coz it was the cheapest I could find at staticice at that time and I didn't expect they would overclock nicely.

I have the OCZ GamerXtremes 600W would they be sufficient for 2xGTS?

Keep us updated will ya :toast:

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Originally Posted by Rudyn

Looking good eva with 2xGTS ;)

I bought the Gainward GTS coz it was the cheapest I could find at staticice at that time and I didn't expect they would overclock nicely.

I have the OCZ GamerXtremes 600W would they be sufficient for 2xGTS?

Keep us updated will ya :toast:

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should be enough given the 600W GXS specs

http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/pow...ream_spec1.png

very detailed as usaull ,nice work Eva. i was thinking! how does the gts scorer compared to gtx ,with both cards oc? can anyone compare scores with same cpu power?

thanks vanovich :)

not sure it GTX compares... I'm waiting for Asus 680i striker extreme for 8800GTS SLI heh

19 days later with Asus 680i Striker Extreme in hand

System:

• Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 QPGE B1 Step 5
• Scythe Infinity heatsink with mounting mod + Thermaltake 120x25mm 81cfm fan
• 2x 640MB Gainward 8800GTS SLI
• Asus 680i Striker Extreme rev1.0 0402 bios
• 1x 160GB Seagate 7200.7 SATA NCQ on SATA2 port
• Pioneer DVR-05 DVD Burner
• 600W OCZ EvoStream Modular Power supply

Gainward 8800GTS stock HSF SLI @621/2052 clocked

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680...2_15490_tn.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680...2_22973_tn.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680...2_54907_tn.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680...2_68690_tn.png

:D




Looks like 426Mhz 4-4-4-12 1T is faster than 533mhz 4-4-4-12 2T even for 3dmark06

426mhz 4-4-4-12 1T = 15,506
533mhz 4-4-4-12 2T = 15,490

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680...2_15506_tn.png