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nice.. really looking forward for this.. :D hope you can post some OC results.. :D
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?...me=0&endtime=0
:woot: BTW, is that a disabled Conroe or 'native' Allendale?
its a native allendale ;)
so it should be cheaper to make and run cooler.
What's the diff between this and an E6300?
lower fsb higher multiQuote:
Originally Posted by stark27
LOL? How do you get these ES chips?Quote:
Originally Posted by death metal
ah but the question then becomes will we be faced with the same FSB issues we see with the celerons ? fsb puking out cuz of the lower bus speed.
like my DS3 absolutely hates the 2 775 celies i have tried in it. cant even do 200mhz fsb.
but thats 533 not 800.
This might be a better chip because of the higher multi. I think that these chips overclocking wise will have better performance compared to a 6300
an idea of the price ?
My guess would be less than $160.00
I wish we could get a firm release date, I really want one of these to play with (and torture :devil: :cord: :hammer: :hehe: ) :D
Wikpedia is reporting:
Model Number Frequency L2-Cache Front Side Bus Multiplier Voltage TDP Socket Release Date Part Number(s) Release Price (USD)
Core 2 Duo E4300 1800 MHz 2048 KiB 800 MT/s 9x --- 65 W LGA 775 Q1 2007 --- $163
Hmmm ... copy/paste didn't work all that well but you get the idea. :rolleyes:
So whats the down side for no support for "Intel Virtualization Technology"? No Intel vPro doesn't seem to be a problem, since its geared toward IT staff managing desktops. :confused:
I definitely want one of these e4300s.
Memory DIMM quaility shouldn't be as much of an issue with this compared to e6300 on the DS3.
where's walter i want one of these :)
Give FSB400 and own 6300/6400 :D
overclock it please!:slobber:Quote:
Originally Posted by death metal
wassup dm! yea!
I think this is a single core. You really can't compare the three.Quote:
Originally Posted by SKiLL3D
the pics show 2 cores, its the first Allendale or native 2MB cache C2DQuote:
Originally Posted by Noob-ftw
his nick(noob-ftw) is not for fun i guess :DQuote:
Originally Posted by LuckyNV
Its 100% a Allendale with lower FSB - the Questions is: Why would Intel produce lowFSB C2Ds? the 6300 and the SingleCores are cheap enough for BudgetOEM-Systems and we all know that Allendales DO like hiFSBs:p:
Only realistic Option is that Intel likes to be competitive with the upcoming X2-3600(and maybe new Semprons) in Performance AND Price AND HTPCcompatibility - or they just keep testing/developing
@death_metal: Whats the default Vcore? try Everest...
iLL
Darn, Q1 2007 is still a good bit away...
Very curious about it's performance :)
Ummm, what Board are you using?.. up that FSB to 450+ and see what happen :D
this is really bad form by the thread starter NOT replying after first post :stick:
Agreed, but it happens more then it should.:(Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
No idea of price and release date. Anandtech/DailyTech has an "old" article up about this CPU: http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3372
The article is a bit dated so you may want to Google more for any changes or leaked info on the net.Quote:
Believe it or not, there's still more "Conroe" madness
The official embargo for most things Conroe came and went, but it appears there is still one more card Intel hasn't played yet. The newest Intel roadmap has added a bin-5 Conroe processor, the Core 2 Duo E4300.
E4300 is clocked at 1.8GHz and has two megabytes of L2 cache. Unfortunately, the processor lacks VT and vPro extensions, and also runs at an 800MHz front-side bus. Intel has not revealed pricing for the new processor yet since it is not to be announced until Q1'07, but considering the fact that the 1.86GHz E6300 is slated for $183, the E4300 may be one of the greatest bargains yet.
Intel's addition of a bin-5 processor is not totally surprising, as virtually every Intel processor architecture before has had at least five bins. However, with the news of a 2x256KB L2 Athlon 64 X2 3600+, a low-bin Conroe makes even more sense than ever before. The Athlon 64 X2 3600+ is slated to become an OEM component only, but the E4300 appears to be a retail-ready processor, meaning we should see it in store shelves come Q1'07.
Death metal, Can you overclock this for us?
I'm thinking despite the 9x multiplier it may not do as well as a e6400 or even a e6300.
However I am very interested because with this CPU the possibility exists for me to get a 100% overclock with even a bargain bin DDR2 2 GB kit.
yeah you know it man.......i'll just start putting people on ignore lists i thinkQuote:
Originally Posted by dogsx2
Yeah i was thinking the same thing. Might give him a pmQuote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
he might have blown up his computer Ocing it:D
then again, not as if there are a shortage of internet computers in the world :stick:
One difference @ least is the bus Speed 800 (E4300) vs 1066 (E6300)Quote:
Originally Posted by stark27
that will mean bugger allQuote:
Originally Posted by CaNNibaL
What does that mean? Are you saying that the Bus of 800 won't really affect OCs that much?Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
I wonder if these chips being lower binned means they just won't do as well as higher binned allendales? Then again something tells me they will kick as anyway.
i'm saying there will be noticable performance difference between 1.8GHz allendale CPUs with 800/1066 bus (9*200 or 7*257)Quote:
Originally Posted by Phosphate
yeah binning is what we'd all like to see but OP is just leading us on and i hate this thread because of it........if you have something to say say it if you don't keep it to yourself.......that's how i see it........if NDA is in order well just tell us you cannot answer the damn questions rather than avoid answering all together..........that's how :banana::banana::banana::banana: started with s7.....it's just confusing for lots of people on the forum so there need to be some kind of rules or understanding between us :)
So basically max memory speed will be down I'm sure right? But maybe CPU clocks will still be good.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
You know what I am saying? I would expect that a e4300 at say 3.4 GHz (assuming it can get to 3.4 Ghz) won't b e able to hit the same max memory speed as a e6300 at 3.4 Ghz. But heck I'm pretty noob so I could be wrong.
Yeah I hate how he teases us but then doesn't show results:nono:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Haha, this extreme systems because of overclocking and we wants to know what these chips can do with the overclock:p: Not stock speed? This isn't Xtreme Dell Systems forums:mad:
well i've contacted my guy for ES chips so if one pops up next week i'll do a full report no doubt :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
nice one mate.. :D how us an OC E4300 :)
looking forward to it..:woot:
We already knew everything cpuz reported. OP just wants to brag, didn't provide anything useful at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
This is xtremesystems, not tomshardware.
Please, just tell us how it overclocks.
Umm I just now saw this and am already wanting results. I came in here and read 2x pages of people begging for results. :(
Come on man just give them up its not like we are Terrorists planning to kill people who Oc processors.
What are you talking about? He let us know there is this new allendale called the "e4300" with a 800 FSB with a stock speed of 1.8 GHz. I don't know about you but I've never gotten tired about hearing "stock speed specs" on this CPU since oh let think ......July.Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderstruck!
You are the man I want to see deliver the OC. I know you will come home with the goods if you are able to get your hands on one of these babies.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
stop the hating!
not hating >>> persuasion hehehehQuote:
Originally Posted by Dave DEF
I think I'll be getting one of these for my SFF rig in the making - E4400 = 10x multi (mATX board has a wall just over 300... so easy 3ghz :))
just wish they'd be out sooner than Q1/07
hey man any news.. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
There is going to be a E4400 too?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sneaky
Yeah the benchmarks between the e4300 vs e6300 will be interesting to see alonh with the prices on these e4400 vs other allendales.
A banning may be in order unless some OC information is forthcoming :stick: :slap:
he's a faker and the screenshot is faked, noone has a E4300, only Intel has so far and unless he's leaking secret intel stuff I don't think we'll get another reply from him.
ever thought about visiting a psychiatrist? :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cappie
no news on supply from my guy :(Quote:
Originally Posted by erwinz
hi guys,
i think its best that we give DM some time.
heres what he said today on the other forum
Quote:
Heya guys, I'll try to post updates, maybe OC updates, but just CPU-Z screenie.
Too busy lately, no time to play...
The guy makes a good point in that thread though. If for some reason you had a c2D compatible 945 mobo then this e4300 would be the ideal match-up for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ferds
truth.com! That way you could even reach 2,7 GHz on Asrock ConroeXfire.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Phosphate
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave DEF
Maybe its you that needs to go see the psych, I heard it can do wonders for gullable fools such as yourself:LOL: I too have a new chip, its called the Optakron Retardikus 5000 and it clocks really well, will have results for you real soon.Quote:
As everyone may already know 1333MHz FSB Intel Core 2 Duo (including E6850, E6750 and E6650) will be releasing in Q3 2007, Intel just announced more choices to customers. Besides the 3 models mentioned above, Intel will also release Core 2 Duo E6390 in Q3 2007, E4200 and E4400 in Q2 2007. Core 2 Duo E6390 targets to the market of E6300 and E6400, and the two members from Core 2 Duo E4000 family are designed to replace Netburst Pentium D.
When compared with the specification, we may find that Core 2 Duo E6390 actually is a value version of Core 2 Duo E6300 and E6400. With the same speed of Core 2 Duo E6400 at 2.13GHz, and also 2MB L2 Cache and 1066MHz FSB, everything is the same in Core 2 Duo E6390, but the availability of Intel Virtualization Technology (VT) and vPRO Technology. These functions are disabled in Core 2 Duo E6390.
On the other side, the two members from Core 2 Duo E4000 family to be released in Q2 2007 include E4200 and E4400. These are running at 1.6GHz and 2GHz respectively, and same as the most of Core 2 Duo, these models contain 2MB L2 Cache and support 1066MHz FSB. Together with E4300 which will be released on 21 Jan 2007, Core 2 Duo E4000 family aim to replace Netburst Pentium D.
However, ironically, at the time we are still waiting for Intel Core 2 Duo E4300, Intel has announced the out-of-production schedule to manufacturers. The last order of Core 2 Duo E4300 will be in Q4 2004 (should be 2007), production terminates in Q1 2008 and last shipment is Q3 2008.
1333 FSB C2D's. So basically were are talking 333 FSB out of the box. Will this be accompanied by DDR3 memory introduction?
With DDR3, overclocking that 333 FSB could be interesting.
what are you quoting? inquirer? always good to trust a source with a typo (Q4 of 2004) in it...:slap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cappie
we'll see...
peace
Dave
Looking foward to some OC results, but something tells me that those e4300 will not make above 3ghz with some vcore...
I'm also looking foward to seeing some OC results. Depending on how these go I may get one myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by saboya
I actually reckon they will make 3ghz really easy with hardly any increase in the vcore.
Dude you really need to chill, just because the guy hasnt had time or doesnt care to post results doesnt mean its a fake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cappie
If you dont have anything positive or even informative to contriute then go find a corner and sit in it.
Its not acceptable to be an ass just because your doing it from behind a keyboard.:slap: :slap:
You'r entitled to your opinion and so am I, if I think he's a fake then thats my bleeping perogative.
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=137179
Did you happen to miss that?
I stole away some time last night to play with the processor before I went to bed (I am too tired :(). This overclock is done very quickly without tweaking or paying attention to other details. No benchmark, sorry guys.
I also didn't use the BadAxe2 to OC, I am having some quirks with OCing on BadAxe2 so I switched to Abit AW9D-MAX.
This is a 50% overclock, this should be more than enough headroom for some mild OCer but not enough for the more extreme. By the way, this is not the maximum OC, this just the OC I tried during a one and a-half hour period of stress testing. Running all on stock cooling, voltage, timing, etc.
edit: removed images
Thanks very much for that death metal :woot:
Looking forward to more results.
Thanks Death,
It will be interesting to see if this chip can approach the other allendales in terms of the max OC ceiling. Certainly it will be good for people with cheap DDR2 memory kits.
I may hold off buying a CPU till this one comes out.
this is all I needed to know! THX A LOT!:woot: :clap: :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by death metal
What is wrong with this forum if some one didn?t like the post he just cam out and say faker faker faker go get himQuote:
Originally Posted by Cappie
What is wrong with you the guy is posting a validated link to an Allendale with 2mb of cache and multi of 9X how the hell on earth he can fake something like that and he is an old member much much older that you why he wona ruin everything, post a fake image and run away so next time please if you don?t like the thread don?t post just leave it alone
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Ford Cargo specifications
Thanks for the report, I am very interested in the E4300 too.Quote:
Originally Posted by death metal
Now I am wondering why the results are so low, 300 FSB, 2.7GHz?
If you have time, could you please describe these Bad Axe 2 "quirks' for those of us thinking about buying that board.Quote:
I also didn't use the BadAxe2 to OC, I am having some quirks with OCing on BadAxe2...
9x3 is 27 so what do you mean low
This looks good to me anyway so when is the cpu out because I was about to buy a e6300
Thanks DM
who wants to see a E4300 95% OC on stock cooler?
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewtopic.php?tid=77276
THANKS DM!!
I mean, that I had expected the E4300 to overclock like an E6600 (which also a has a multiplier of 9). These results are not even close to what I was looking for here: FSB 400, 3.6GHz.Quote:
Originally Posted by 775911
This is what I was expecting, 2.7GHz, 300 FSB was low.Quote:
Originally Posted by ferds
That is impressive, 3.5k on a stock cooler :) A pi time would be good but I presume its not that far off what a e6300 would do, a bit slower because of the fsb being 110 less probably
i guess he got everyone to shut up with those pix. nice proc, i might pick one up for an HTPC.
looks ok what vcore :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ferds
no info about vcore.
This chip, bundled with a decent motherboard, would be excellent for a testing rig.
Does it really have to go on sale so late though? \=
- lk
Testing? Hell I'm going to use this in my main rig :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by lordkelmain
Looks very nice, but wondering about Vcore too.
Intel still have to shift existing Netburst stock, that means a ton of 8xxD'sQuote:
Originally Posted by lordkelmain
Keep in mind thatQuote:
Originally Posted by bofors
1.) the base speed of this is 200MHz FSB
2.) these are probably the speed-binning leftovers as of now.
And what load temps?Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
I can't wait for this CPU. Hopefully he didn't need a crazy Vcore to get that OC though.
Thanks for posting your results. Just curious as to what sort issues you ran into with your Bad Axe 2. I am just putting a new Kentsfield build together and am torn between using this board or the P5W-64WS. Overall, what are your thoughts on the Intel board?Quote:
Originally Posted by death metal
Hey all, took me some time to remember I have this thread *yay*.
Anyway, the problem I had with Bad Axe 2 is nothing serious. It's a pre-production board so I really think I'll encounter some problem. The issue is that the OC will not "stuck" sometimes, but sometimes, it's working.
As for vCore, I use 1.55v.
This will be my final update since I have already dis-assemble the rig.
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/news.php?ti...ime=1163548800Quote:
Originally Posted by hkepc
Sounds too easy to me, it could bring back the days of phantom rebranding by endsellers like happened with 486sx 25/33
Don't think so, because:Quote:
Originally Posted by an0nym0us
1.55v is quite alot to achieve that clock, 6300 can do 3ghz stock volts.Quote:
Originally Posted by death metal
How can they be speed-binning leftovers if they are native allendale cores? :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank M
1.55v is for 3.5GHz or 95% overclock. iirc, 3GHz is reached easy on stock voltage. You have to know that once a CPU reached a certain OC that requires going beyond stock voltage, it is almost always a steep vCore pump to push for more Hz or clock frequency.Quote:
Originally Posted by saboya
Here's the CPU-Z again if you missed it: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=138823
http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/138823.png
already listed in germany:
http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a228222.html
nice clocks death metal.. :woot:Quote:
Originally Posted by death metal
this will be my next processor.. :D
You can't buy it yet right? When did they say they would get this e4300 in?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave DEF
Right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phosphate
They say january 21st, but maybe some days/weeks earlier/later.
What, if any are the major significances of
"Intel Virtualization Technology (VT) and
vPRO Technology"?
Also, What is the point in DDR3?
Our procs are going to be limited
to 333 on stock, 450 max, which
can be paired with DDR2 1000.
Buying anything higher would be
utterly pointless as you would
reach a bottleneck with your proc.
Looks just about right, if it comes by that time, I guess many OCers on the cheap will be happy :)...Quote:
Originally Posted by rAz3R
Quote:
Originally Posted by death metal
yesss!!! that would include me.. :D
really looking forward for this processor.. :D
the link I posted have some shops stating that it will be available on january 4th! that would be awesome!Quote:
Originally Posted by rAz3R
Might pick one of these chips up. They definatly seem promising with those overclocks.