First Nvidia 650i Board. Asus P5N-E SLI.

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11-10-2006, 11:25 AM
Kunaak

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First Nvidia 650i Board. Asus P5N-E SLI.

If the ridiculous prices of the Asus 680i boards is just too damn much to swallow, theres a saving grace in all this commotion with the 650i series of boards.

they are basically the little brother of the 680's.

features SLI still, but at 8 x 8, not 16 x 16.
seems to lack the big features of the 680i boards, and has the usual clutterd caps around the socket, which the 680's are nice and clean around the socket, so its something to think about, if your going to phase change.
otherwise, no big deal....
no heatpipes, and built in sound...
does not having the on/off switchs, or the clear cmos button like the striker does, but then again, neither does the P5N32-E SLI.

so it's definatly looking like a board with a lower price tag.
should be a good board, especially if you want something more affordable then the $300+ boards.

I would assume this board should hit the shelves rather quick....
wasnt even 2 days, from the time I heard of the P5N32-E SLI that it was at ZZF and Newegg, so hopefully the 650's show up soon too.

http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4277
11-10-2006, 11:43 AM
lowfat

i wonder how the 8800GTS's will preform with only 8x PCIe.....
11-10-2006, 12:00 PM
Fr3ak

Looks good to me. The P5W also has 2 8x PCIE, so it shouldnt be worse than that.

Does the first slot run in 16X if the second slot aint being used?
11-10-2006, 12:34 PM
msgclb

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P5N32-E SLI
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P5N-E SLI
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At least the P5N-E IDE connector isn't crammed between the memory slots and the pwr connector.

I'm impatient but I've decided to wait awhile and hope for some clues as what to get and what to avoid.
11-10-2006, 12:36 PM
Cooper

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Originally Posted by lowfat

i wonder how the 8800GTS's will preform with only 8x PCIe.....

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Note: These cards require PCI-E x16 slots, they will not function in a x8 slot so for SLi you need dual x16 mainboard.

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Originally Posted by Fr3ak

Does the first slot run in 16X if the second slot aint being used?

Yes

Also Anandtech reported in 680i SLI review that 650/650 SLI boards will be available in December with pretty affordable prices. So not long to wait :)
11-10-2006, 12:59 PM
JoeBar

At least with this board u can run sli with a pci sound card... :p:
11-10-2006, 06:15 PM
aiya

what i find kinda odd is that it is using a daughter card for SLi mode switching. i thought we were past that phase in SLi where instead it would be done through the bios.

also, the SB isn't sinked, wonder if it gets hot?

none the less, it looks like a good board.
11-10-2006, 07:50 PM
erwinz

nice layout hope it performs like a DS3.. :D
11-11-2006, 05:31 AM
Nedjo

And who can guaranty that under 650i brand isn’t a good ol’ non overclockable C19X?
11-11-2006, 06:08 AM
slykid

nice looking board hope it overclocks like it looks.now i'm becoming a certified tester buying boards all over the place :)
11-11-2006, 06:36 AM
DTU_XaVier

No onboard sound?? :nono: You can see the plugs below the USB-connectors ;)
Only 2x8 SLi, on a brand new chipset?? I know they have to make it less desirable for people to not take this instead of the bigger brother, but that seems kinda cheap... We should be at full x16 SLi functionality on all new boards... Perhaps they'll make it a standard by the time PCI-E 2.0 rolls in...
It seems a bit cramed, or am I the only one thinking that??
But if it performs good, especially at oc, it's a good board regardless :)

Best Regards :toast:
11-11-2006, 07:28 AM
lookmomnobrains

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Originally Posted by DTU_XaVier

No onboard sound?? :nono: You can see the plugs below the USB-connectors ;)
Only 2x8 SLi, on a brand new chipset?? I know they have to make it less desirable for people to not take this instead of the bigger brother, but that seems kinda cheap... We should be at full x16 SLi functionality on all new boards... Perhaps they'll make it a standard by the time PCI-E 2.0 rolls in...
It seems a bit cramed, or am I the only one thinking that??
But if it performs good, especially at oc, it's a good board regardless :)

Best Regards :toast:

realtek alc883 6-channel onboard :stick:

what’s the red card between the pci-e slots...?? :confused:
11-11-2006, 08:37 AM
smopoim86

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Originally Posted by JoeBar

At least with this board u can run sli with a pci sound card... :p:

I have trouble understanding why the board manufacturers are doing away with standard pci and replacing them with pcie 1x before card manufacturers are making the pci 1x cards.
11-11-2006, 08:53 AM
msgclb

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Originally Posted by lookmomnobrains

what’s the red card between the pci-e slots...?? :confused:

Take a look at the P5N-E SLI's older sibling and you'll see the same red card. The manual for the P5NSLI calls it the ASUS EZ selector card connector that allows you to set the SLI mode to either Single Video card or Dual Video cards.
11-11-2006, 09:12 AM
BlaqMale

think i'll stick with 680i, feature wise, it's king
11-11-2006, 10:08 AM
Fr3ak

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Originally Posted by lookmomnobrains

realtek alc883 6-channel onboard :stick:

what’s the red card between the pci-e slots...?? :confused:

That card was being used on the first SLi chipsets to enable or disable SLI mode.
Looks very like its the same on this board.
Its like a huge jumper to enable or disable SLi.
11-11-2006, 10:17 AM
3NZ0

quite a retarded idea, to allow the 8800's to only work on 16x boards, that means you cant even run 8800gts sli on this thing.
11-11-2006, 10:20 AM
Cooper

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Originally Posted by 3NZ0

quite a retarded idea, to allow the 8800's to only work on 16x boards, that means you cant even run 8800gts sli on this thing.

Don`t think that somebody who can spend that much money on two 8800GTS and big monitor will go for "cheap" motherboard
11-11-2006, 10:54 AM
3NZ0

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Originally Posted by Cooper

Don`t think that somebody who can spend that much money on two 8800GTS and big monitor will go for "cheap" motherboard

tech move so fast that even a 8800gts will be outdated in some 3 weeks time by something 2 times faster :fact: and will end up costing much less than they do now.

jokes aside, nvidia will probably come up with a 8600gt that works on 8x or something like that.
11-11-2006, 11:09 AM
nn_step

wow that layout is alot nicer than their 680i board's
11-11-2006, 11:17 AM
p0tter

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Originally Posted by aiya

what i find kinda odd is that it is using a daughter card for SLi mode switching. i thought we were past that phase in SLi where instead it would be done through the bios.

to keep the noobs out of bios.
11-11-2006, 11:49 AM
Cooper

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Originally Posted by 3NZ0

tech move so fast that even a 8800gts will be outdated in some 3 weeks time by something 2 times faster :fact: and will end up costing much less than they do now.

True. But schedule will be somewhere after R600. $600-$700 for top card doesn`t look that horrible today, does it ? :D

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jokes aside, nvidia will probably come up with a 8600gt that works on 8x or something like that.

Perhaps you`re right.

Anyone knows how much bandwidth 8800GTS/GTS requires ?
Pci-e 8x max is 2GBps which is 100MBps less than AGP 8x :D

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to keep the noobs out of bios.

You still need to enable 8x+8x mode in BIOS ;)
11-11-2006, 04:48 PM
oshox

I'm trying to hold out hope for the 650i Ultra. Overclocking isn't just for people with bottomless checking accounts, and SLI is not a technology associated with value.
The new GPU's are dual-core anyhow
11-11-2006, 05:56 PM
afireinside

The big question: Does 650i have dual PLL?
11-11-2006, 06:10 PM
oijkue

wow...the NB heatsink looks so big :slobber:
11-11-2006, 06:23 PM
Black Scorpion

I like this board layout, i think its a good choice if you want great performance for a single card pc, should score good enough to please most of us, also asus is a brand i really like.
12-18-2006, 04:33 AM
adamsleath

yeah id like to know whether 8800gtS SLI would be ok on 8x8x ...
12-18-2006, 04:40 AM
adamsleath

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread....post1030361846
a dude in this link (blue falcon) has old sli board with 2 8800gts's...i'm guessing it runs ok but is bottlenecked (maybe by 8x8X???????) aswell as bottlenecked by cpu...as is my sig.
12-18-2006, 04:49 AM
adamsleath

but as many people keep telling me, cpu bottlenecks disappear at higher graphics settings and higher resolutions as the gcard gets bogged down in extra eye candy calculations. With my current sig. setup i cannot run some games at lower graphic settings ...it's like the gcard is going too fast for the cpu and the my comp just freaks and crashes....now only high g settings will enable me to play....if i got another gts for example and kept this lil 3500 cpu i think i would have to run games at very high res. just so the cpu could keep up. of course seeing is believing...
12-18-2006, 05:30 AM
doompc

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Originally Posted by adamsleath

yeah id like to know whether 8800gtS SLI would be ok on 8x8x ...

About 3% slower than in 16x + 16x or less, since SLI32 runs on 2 bridges (northbridge and southbridge connected thru Hyper Transport) and SLI16 runs on northbridge alone.

http://www.tbreak.com/reviews/articl...6&pagenumber=3