I am very sad! 5 Month ago I spend 570$ and bought 7900GTX but today 7900GTX killed by 8800GTX 3Dmark06 result :
7900GTX : 6100
8800GTX : 14000
when 8800GTX will die? waitng for 8900GTX/GX2 or forget it and buy 8800GTX?
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I am very sad! 5 Month ago I spend 570$ and bought 7900GTX but today 7900GTX killed by 8800GTX 3Dmark06 result :
7900GTX : 6100
8800GTX : 14000
when 8800GTX will die? waitng for 8900GTX/GX2 or forget it and buy 8800GTX?
RV6xx :wasntme: ... but thats just me...
Get 8800GTS if you find GTX hard on the wallet.
Perkam
i'll probably buy a 8800 then go to the new ati offering
got a 7950gx2 right now that i haven't even used yet. i think i'll use this till either the r600 refresh or the nvidia refresh. got my 21' crt that does 2046x1536 so i'm gonna want some power.
I am waiting for something nice that costs 300-350$
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AMC Straight-6 engine specifications
Looking at the current benchmarks based obviously on underdeveloped drivers, the GTS isn't much better than the 7900GTX...so I might even say buy a 7900GT and volt mod it...Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
(prices depending of course).
Chances are I'll do what I did with ATI's X8xx and Nvidia' 7-series - wait until it's almost dead and buy a GTO that unlocks/overclocks to the fullest potential of their highest-end device for less than half the price of buying the card new and getting an oversized, quieter stock cooler at the same time.
I plan on buying the 8800GTX when it comes out but only one of them to replace it with two 8900GTXes when they come out in march-ish.
lol...ok...then go buy your 7900GTX...or tell the thread starter to do so...but make sure to give him your name and address, so that then when it comes out and the threadstarter sees the numbers of a properly clocked GTS, he can send you some nice things in the mail :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shpoon
Perkam
You have to have a mental disorder if you use these cards in SLI..or even consider it.
At the way prices are going it looks like I will be waiting for the 8600's :)
Why:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by markopoleo
Don't be an ass because I'm not jumping on the "G80 r 1337" train.Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
I understand that it'll get better; hell, I admitted it. That's why I said one might buy a 7900GT(X).Quote:
Looking at the current benchmarks based obviously on underdeveloped drivers
At this point, the GTS looks horrible...it's more of a 7975 really ;)
The GTX on the other hand...however at this moment the GTX and GTS cost more than my Conroe by a hefty margin. I'm saying wait until a)games/apps support DX10, and b)wait for a better price.
Just my 2 cents.
(Oh ya, and my comment wasn't directed at the OP who HAS a 7900GTX, so I'd gladly give him my address. Only people with no opinions would blindly follow a forum suggestion *cough PSU of the month (K, that was just a low blow :p:) without weighing their options themselves).
Cause its overkill/bragging rights only is why. If you shall out well over $1000 on hardware that offers little to no advantage than just better fps at higher rez.
I really feel sorry for people who buy into the SLI/Crossfire stuff. heh
Pls don't be offended by my persistence at decrying the assumptions of the untrained eye.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shpoon
Wait and see before calling an 8800GTS a 7975...No single 7900GTX can get 20k in 05 on air...this is nex gen architecture we're talking about.
i don't give a rat's a** about whether you're jumping on the g80 bandwagon or not...just don't bash something and force the threadstarter to make the wrong decision because you have little idea of how big of an evolution the 8800 series is.
Marko, its $449 and a helluva deal...not $1000. Plus at $449, if well oced it can beat x1900s and 7900s in sli.
Perkam
No offense taken, what's a forum where everyone agrees/spouts the same thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
I understand that this is next gen, it's purely my opinion about the GTS numbers.
Ah, so my opinion is already declared wrong? (P.S. making a comment like I did CAN NOT be considered "bashing"). It wasn't even directed at the thread starter. In fact, I was going to skip this thread because I don't understand what he's asking, my comment was purely an innocent reply to your suggestion of getting a GTS instead of a GTX, nothing wrong with getting another opinion on the subject.Quote:
just don't bash something and force the threadstarter to make the wrong decision because you have little idea of how big of an evolution the 8800 series is.
Oh ya, Blu-ray is an amazing evolution in storage media, does that make everyone love it?
A regular DVD-RW is $50...if the Blu-Ray was $75...everyone WOULD love it...heck everyone would love it even at $100...but its going to come out at $500 or more...thats why people hate it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Shpoon
The GTS is about 20% more expensive than the 7900GTX and yet it has 50% more performance...thats why i'm telling YOU not to hate it.
Perkam
Is that a round-about way of agreeing with me? I said people hate it, what's your point?Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=122262Quote:
The GTS is about 20% more expensive than the 7900GTX and yet it has 50% more performance...thats why i'm telling YOU not to hate it.
Perkam
I'm not really impressed by those, as I don't run at those high resolutions, and I wouldn't notice the dif between 150 and 200 (MY OPINION AGAIN! GET THAT INTO YOUR HEAD. MY OPINION DOES NOT = RIGHT OR WRONG) (and yes, capslock was needed apparently).
And seeing as you can overclock a 7900GT to GTX like performance...
$300 CND compared to $570 (for GTS) is a big deal to me.
Can we please just end this? You don't like my opinion, so you're attacking it..I don't give a sh*t what your opinion is, this is mine, live with it being there, it shows the flip side of the coin. Respect mine like I respect yours...before you brought it up, I didn't go as far as you did and attack what you said.
Btw...how about we put all this aside until a week from now when consumers have their hands on it? I'm eagerly awaiting actual consumer reviews, as I generally don't trust some of these sites :/
Nope, but a 30" 2560x1600 display is a good start to want 2 cards. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by markopoleo
As you wish...but (well aside from the fact that you're asking me to respect yours in the same post where you're saying you don't give a :banana::banana::banana::banana: about mine) everyone has an opinion...and everyone has a preference..i have respected both with my time here...but i have a very low tolerance for people forming their opinions based on skewed facts...Quote:
Originally Posted by Shpoon
Though yes....who is right or wrong will be determine when the cards come out and people clock them.
You already win though...if everyone at xs plays games at stock :)
Perkam
Last shot at me? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
And don't worry, I know the GTS/GTX will maul all competition (until ATI, then we'll see), I'm on the side of frugal people who have a low income ;)
'Till then....we'll see :)
(And I apologize for the remark you pointed out, I'm getting too worked up over something I don't have ;))
Well I try not to have a "side"...I have an x800gt right now...but that doesn't mean i'm going to sit back and watch someone POTENTIALLY (lol) make the wrong decision because i think they're rich or something...i would have been ineffective as a news mod all this time if that were the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shpoon
Perkam
I can see it now "AMD releases new photon chips! But you won't want it...too expensive!"Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
Fair enough. :toast:
Yes cause you need to speed over $1000 for latest tech to get that..:stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by stevecs
wow I can smell high blood pressure all because of sketchy numbers and the good ole rumor mill cranking once again..............why not just wait for the cards to be put on the market and in about a week or two see what credible ####s are produced and shared so then the rest of us can choose to make a buy based on affordable prices vs real world performance?
Why is there always a testosterone driven feeding frenzy over rumors and preliminary numbers?
DX10 will be purchased by me when they decide to get their asses in gear and lower the power consumption. ATI or NV, i dont care but i refuse to install a 800-1000 watt psu.
As long as GPUs will not be required by servers, power consumption will continue to go up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Haltech
Watch for innovations like amd's fusion to start to put GPU progress in the right direction.
Perkam
get your head out of the ground firstQuote:
Originally Posted by Haltech
Requirement for G80 (8800GTX), nVidia highest of all most powerful and hottest video card, is 450W.. and thats for the entire computer system, complete with top of the line CPU, memory, hard drives, etc..
Is it nVidia's fault you misunderstood?
I don't think I'll be buying an R600 or G80.
6600gt all the way.
It's hard to pass up a GTS or GTX at this point, I guess I'll succumb to the temptation sooner or later :p
I remember when 6800 Ultra get out Frequent History!! it runs SM2.0 perfect but it wasnt pretty cool for SM3.0 and HDR (age 3,Tomb raider legends, ...) and you have to buy 7800/7900 series for best run of SM3.0 and HDR games Now Frequent History! First generation of SM4.0 cards being like first geretantion SM3.0 (6800 Series) and I think second generation of SM4.0 cards will be better choice
Anyone think the 8800 GTX will fit in my Antec P180?
thats always the case though:Quote:
Originally Posted by HamidFULL
Geforce->GF2
GF3->GF4
FX5800->FX5900
6800->7800/7900
either you get the first new generation (ie GF) and huge groupd of all new features along with moderate performance jump, but high power requirements and high price.
or you get the refresh (ie GF2) which has only minor new features, refined more usable performance and typically higher volume, lower power and lower price.
features vs performance.. choose!
The day perkam buys a good VGA is the day I stop buying PC parts. :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
(And no Perkam, that day isn't coming any time soon ;))
8900gt/gto @ 1.2V :toast:
???Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwi
what's that supposed to mean?
8900 = 65nm? (it would cut die size in half, amongst other things)
BTW: what is the voltage that GTX/GTS run (considering its still the same TSMC 90nm and GTS OC is hitting like 600Mhz+, I'd imagine around 1.3V)
If you're moving from a 7900GTX then the G80 will noticeable. But if you have like 7900's SLI or a 7950GX2 then honestly it's not really that much faster. About 12K compare to 10K for 7950GX2. Wait until Xmas for price to drop a bit.
Those days have come and gone by...i can't upgrade the vga with a celeron as a cpu...its always what has held me back...if i upgrade i'd have to upgrade both.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickS
Hopefully a pentium e will solve the cpu problem later this year (already have a conroe-compatible mobo) and the 8600GT/RV630XT will come out in late q2 2k7. I just don't wanna buy anything lower than unified shader after seeing 8800 performance.
Yields on single card oc are remarkable...and the OCs are SO dang smooth. Half the performance of oced GTS is more than a single 7900GTX...and thats $250 right there :) (Half of $499)
Perkam
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rattle
That's what i am gonna do!
I took the plunge and bought a GTS, moving from a 7900GTX.
yep perkam took some extra coffee :P
wait and see
If I was going to buy a new videocard I would wait for R600. I think itīs closer than you might think and there are high posibilities it will kick NVs ass. (no fanboy comment here, I have my sources).
Quote:
Originally Posted by JuanFlaiter
yea we can see you are completely unprejudiced :stick:
I took the plunge also.....ordered a BFG 8800GTS flavour.....:)
No it really isn't as close as you think, and I doubt you have a reliable source, if any at all. R600 will not be coming out this year, so I don't know what you consider soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by JuanFlaiter
lol I got a giggle out of that. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by BobyTT
um.. pentium e?Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
Personally, if you are using hardware that old, I fail to see why you need anything more than a x1900 or 7900gto/gtx.
I installed my 187$ sealed 7900GTX(real GTX, not GTO :toast: ) in my Yonah this weekend, and I LOVE IT (you guys thought the 149$ X1900 AIW was a deal LOL!)
Clearly your not playing FEAR or Oblivion with what you have, why do you even need 8800/R600? Nick is still using an X800 right now!
Get one of these 327$ newegg Xeon 3060s ;)
I also took the plunge and ordered nvidia setup.
eVGA board + 2 8800gtx
Hope ATI's future offering doesnt own that up or itll be rather depressing for the price I paid.
I am limited by the room on my desk to a 20" flat screen and my current monitor is a Samsung which limits me to a max resolution of 1280 x 1024. At that resolution SLI or Crossfire is pretty much wasted money in my opinion, I 'll be darned if I can see much improvement in gameplay once I pass 40 or 50 FPS. Therefore as long as my current card (7900 GT) plays the games I want to play at a reasonable frame rate I can't see dropping 500 bucks just to say I have a 8800. When DX10 games become more common place I will upgrade. probably sometime next summer or next fall.
What exactly do all you people do for a living that you can afford the time to play so many games and yet still make enough money to buy close to $1000 in Graphics cards every few months? How many people here are going to 2 * 8800GTXs from one or two 7900GT(O)s?
I guess no one knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch Schultz
EDIT: Nevermind i found out.
today God selled my 7900GTX !!
Until now I have Trident 9750 4MB --> Nvidia Vanta --> Nvidia TNT2 --> Geforce4 MX 440 --> GeForce 5200 --> GeForce 5900XT --> GeForce 6800 Ultra --> geForce 7800GTX --> GeForce 7900GTX
But after long years I reach to pain pick! I will never buy High-End!! because if you buy one you are on top only for 5 Month but something like 6600GT OC always is gamers choice and it could become you happy with games!
Damn i think i had so far almost every top of the line NVIDIA or ATI... since Voodoo RUSH. Which actually drain my wallet... :)
Got my 8800GTX in today!!!!!!!
It's sweetttttt.....
ahhh that was a good read. perkam go roar.
7900gtx is fine for now and will be fine until the r600 release. im waiting for the r600 :)
Fair enough...8800 is a big enough evolution to warrant an upgrade though...especially for those that DO regularly upgrade...I'm not one of those people either...more of a mainstream guy...but for those that do want to go 8800 for any budget, they should def go ahead.Quote:
Originally Posted by aintz
Perkam
I disagree for the same reason that many people here have said. While the 8800GTX is clearly the most superior GPU out there, right now, it does not surprise me that many people are waiting on the ATI counterpart or the later releases of the G80 series (8900, 8800GTO, or what have you).Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
Consider that DX10 (which in my opinion is the main advantage of the 8800 right now) is still months off and by the time it comes out, the R600 (which as I understand is should come out along side of Vista and DX10, or close to it) should be released, perhaps the next line of G80s will also be on their way... that considered, unless you update A LOT, and by a lot, I mean like every two months, the 8800GTX or GTS doesn't seem like a very worthy buy. At least until it can be used to its full potential with DX10, and by that time it should be cheaper.
On an aside, I just saw GTSs on NewEgg for $500, which greatly disappoints me because it's more than I had thought. I'll probably wait on the R600 or the later G80 cards to satisfy my DX10 needs, for now, I think my setup is fine.
Your point is valid...but i began to differentiate between what is ideal and what the consumers do very long ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlyMaelstrom
Those that have the $$ to spend and have made the decision to spend it knowing full well the r600 is around the corner...my ongoing struggle for people to recognize the 8800gts is with them...and i don't blame them...there are 1000s of demographics...can't clump them all into one.
Mainstream buyers like you and me will wait for 8600 and RV6xx to go dx10 seeing as we value price/performance more than having the latest thing the day it launches and thats fine too...two different demographics :)
Perkam
Get your head out of the ground if you cant comprehend what i wrote.Quote:
Originally Posted by ***Deimos***
Call me dumb, but am I wrong
in assuming the r600 is ATI's
DX10 cards? or is it a new mobo?
r600 = future ati dx10 card
rd600 = future ati chipset based mobo
If you're thinking of getting the G80s, better wait for the R600 rolling out so you know what's ATI got up their sleeve. From what I think it should be faster than 8800GTX, well it should be or the cards won't sell much :p:
DX10 support is just a bonus now, you won't need it till Vista or DX10 games come out sometimes next year. By that time the hardware would mature and the prices have gone down to acceptable level. I'm waiting for a card like 512MB DDR4 8600GT, that'd be sweet :toast:
boy is it tempting to go 8800gtx sli and get 30" LCD for awesome gaming but I don't want to spend that much. R600 will come out and be king and then 8900gx2 quad sli will take the crown back ;)
tell me about it. I'm hitting HP's site every 5 minutes waffling about the LP3065 monitor... I was hoping to hold out for the Samsung 305T but it looks like samsung just doesn't want to sell them, no news at all and HP's are here w/ the 92% ntsc colour gamut.
Wow...
The 8800 prices are already dropping...
Newegg has the eVGA 8800GTX for 660 USD = approx. 746 CAD
Directcanada has eVGA 8800GTX for 698 CAD = approx. 618 USD
with free ground shipping in Canada :P