Question for Gskill Technician

Hi everyone.
I have Gskill F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ 2x1gb

I pushed my E6600@3.6 (9X400) and now I have trouble making my ram go @500 (4:5) to work. I can only boot @1:1 @rated speed (800)

Ram is tested@2:3(500) with cpu@3GHz(9x334) and works just fine and even beyond that (535 max I think @4-4-4-12)

Is this a divider problem or it could be something else?
What do you suggest me to try?
Thanks in advance

*P.S Also I need to ask as well if it is safe to run them @2.4v for 24/7? I know 2.4v is a bit high but is it ok?

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Anyone?

FSB500 r u sure your mobo can handle it well?
2.4v it is better with fan

the divider problem is nothing relate to memory. it is mostly relate to mobo bios problem (hiding timing)

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Originally Posted by G.S Technician

FSB500 r u sure your mobo can handle it well?
2.4v it is better with fan

the divider problem is nothing relate to memory. it is mostly relate to mobo bios problem (hiding timing)

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Hey GST,

I think your expert help can help us and many others wade over this problem.

This excellent memory did 530Mhz 4-4-4-8 with ultra tight sub timings (3-9-5-9) and 4-30.

But it refuses to boot @ 400 4:5 on my P5B Deluxe. Since you have better access to these technologies, please help us get over this problem because it would be nice if we could run these 399x9 4:5 with as tight as timings as possible and really benefit from the speed.

The same board (p5b deluxe) with my friend easily does 4:5 399 even upto 435Mhz. So its really weird that my board has issues running 4:5 399 even at 5-5-5-15 max voltages.

I think something is amiss here.....

Karan

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Originally Posted by kidoman

Hey GST,

I think your expert help can help us and many others wade over this problem.

This excellent memory did 530Mhz 4-4-4-8 with ultra tight sub timings (3-9-5-9) and 4-30.

But it refuses to boot @ 400 4:5 on my P5B Deluxe. Since you have better access to these technologies, please help us get over this problem because it would be nice if we could run these 399x9 4:5 with as tight as timings as possible and really benefit from the speed.

The same board (p5b deluxe) with my friend easily does 4:5 399 even upto 435Mhz. So its really weird that my board has issues running 4:5 399 even at 5-5-5-15 max voltages.

I think something is amiss here.....

Karan

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could you get the bios version and let me know, both urs and his

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Originally Posted by G.S Technician

FSB500 r u sure your mobo can handle it well?
2.4v it is better with fan

the divider problem is nothing relate to memory. it is mostly relate to mobo bios problem (hiding timing)

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No m8 excuse me for not clarifying that well
I meant 500MHz for ram running @4-4-4-12 . Cpu was @3.2(9x333 fsb)
Now I'm trying to find out why it can't post @3.6(9x400 fsb) with ram @4:5(500) with same timings..

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Originally Posted by kidoman

Hey GST,

I think your expert help can help us and many others wade over this problem.

This excellent memory did 530Mhz 4-4-4-8 with ultra tight sub timings (3-9-5-9) and 4-30.

But it refuses to boot @ 400 4:5 on my P5B Deluxe. Since you have better access to these technologies, please help us get over this problem because it would be nice if we could run these 399x9 4:5 with as tight as timings as possible and really benefit from the speed.

The same board (p5b deluxe) with my friend easily does 4:5 399 even upto 435Mhz. So its really weird that my board has issues running 4:5 399 even at 5-5-5-15 max voltages.

I think something is amiss here.....

Karan

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Exactly this..

My bios ver. is 1407

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Originally Posted by G.S Technician

could you get the bios version and let me know, both urs and his

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I have tried bioses from 0614 to 0804 (p5b deluxe)... None work for me for 4:5 bootup !

Some strange bug indeed. And I see Orbitech is having the same problem on a different board altogether.

My friend doesnt hv a problem doing 4:5 on EXACT same specs as mine upto 435FSB 4:5.... I cant even do 399 4:5 nor is 410 4:5 stable with RAM at 2.45V 5-5-5-15....

Karan

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Originally Posted by Orbitech

My bios ver. is 1407

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for your case, i am sure this problem happen to many users.
400 : 500 can't boot is becasue the TRD is too tight
the initial TRD is 6 but over FSB400 : 500 we have to use TRD 7+
that is why WS pro and WS64 pro has TRD option open
if you use memset and clockget you will find out that too

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Originally Posted by kidoman

I have tried bioses from 0614 to 0804 (p5b deluxe)... None work for me for 4:5 bootup !

Some strange bug indeed. And I see Orbitech is having the same problem on a different board altogether.

My friend doesnt hv a problem doing 4:5 on EXACT same specs as mine upto 435FSB 4:5.... I cant even do 399 4:5 nor is 410 4:5 stable with RAM at 2.45V 5-5-5-15....

Karan

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check the week of your ram, let me know
use 4-4-4-12-4-42-3-11-7-13 and see it works or not

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Originally Posted by G.S Technician

check the week of your ram, let me know
use 4-4-4-12-4-42-3-11-7-13 and see it works or not

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hey :)

my ram is 0630xxxxxxxxx

Is it bad news for me?

I will surely try it out....

But strangely... i am now at:

http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/5874/nowatvk9.jpg

I believe these are 4-4-4-12-4-30-3-9-5-9

And memtest stable @ only 2.2V..... Why is that divider such a issue accross all bioses?

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Originally Posted by G.S Technician

for your case, i am sure this problem happen to many users.
400 : 500 can't boot is becasue the TRD is too tight
the initial TRD is 6 but over FSB400 : 500 we have to use TRD 7+
that is why WS pro and WS64 pro has TRD option open
if you use memset and clockget you will find out that too

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Thx m8
It worked.. I did put TRD 7+ in memset and now I can do 4:5(500MHz 4-4-4-12)@2.3v

I did put a fan as well in them to keep them cool. I hope 2.3v is tolerable for 24/7

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Originally Posted by Orbitech

Thx m8
It worked.. I did put TRD 7+ in memset and now I can do 4:5(500MHz 4-4-4-12)@2.3v

I did put a fan as well in them to keep them cool. I hope 2.3v is tolerable for 24/7

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Good for you orbitech....

But I am still stuck.... BSOD while booting windows......


Is my batch 630 bad news? Please tell me.

I don't know what's happening..
Last night I could do 500MHz @4:5 with 2.3v setting the tRD at 7 from memset.
Today it boots but I crash too.. Even with 2.4v..
Does the memset holds the tRD value permanently after the shutdown of computer or not?
And if not how can I set it permanently so I won't have a problem? :(

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Originally Posted by Orbitech

I don't know what's happening..
Last night I could do 500MHz @4:5 with 2.3v setting the tRD at 7 from memset.
Today it boots but I crash too.. Even with 2.4v..
Does the memset holds the tRD value permanently after the shutdown of computer or not?
And if not how can I set it permanently so I won't have a problem? :(

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memtest will not hold the value......
also..... 400/500..... TRD 6 not even post.....
i suggest u write email to asus and ask them to release p5wdh with trd enable :)

GST

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Originally Posted by kidoman

hey :)

my ram is 0630xxxxxxxxx

Is it bad news for me?

I will surely try it out....

But strangely... i am now at:

http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/5874/nowatvk9.jpg

I believe these are 4-4-4-12-4-30-3-9-5-9

And memtest stable @ only 2.2V..... Why is that divider such a issue accross all bioses?

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630 is good news..... D9's best week :)
4-4-4-12-4-30-3-9-5-9 is good!
the bios issue for divider... well.... that i really don't know since i am not the tech from asus... no understanding of mobo...
suppose p5b doesn't have 4:5 problem..... i need to do more search on your case...

It seems the p5b doesnt like any dividers, it seems to have problems with bios or so. Sometiems it will boot at high fsb while the next time you restart it may req a much lower fsb. I dont think its gskill's problem but just asus.

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Originally Posted by G.S Technician

630 is good news..... D9's best week :)
4-4-4-12-4-30-3-9-5-9 is good!
the bios issue for divider... well.... that i really don't know since i am not the tech from asus... no understanding of mobo...
suppose p5b doesn't have 4:5 problem..... i need to do more search on your case...

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hey GST,

nice to know that... so its the stupid motherboard is it? can you tell me a easy way to contact asus tech support? it really sucks how the board is :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing up with 4:5.....

regards,
karan

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Originally Posted by kidoman

hey GST,

nice to know that... so its the stupid motherboard is it? can you tell me a easy way to contact asus tech support? it really sucks how the board is :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing up with 4:5.....

regards,
karan

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hummmm..... i don't know their customer tele number ....

I have the same problem on my P5B dlx :mad:

this f :banana: :banana: :banana: ing board is driving me nuts :mad:

the ram does 500+ easily at 2:3, orthos and memtest stable for the 12 that I tested.
but 4:5 this $H|:banana: doesnt boot and sometimes if it manages to boot i get memory errors in windows :mad:
I have tried all bios even the 804 but no luck


this cant be a memory problem right ?

p.s my ram is rated for 500mhz :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by GrimReaper

I have the same problem on my P5B dlx :mad:

this f :banana: :banana: :banana: ing board is driving me nuts :mad:

the ram does 500+ easily at 2:3, orthos and memtest stable for the 12 that I tested.
but 4:5 this $H|:banana: doesnt boot and sometimes if it manages to boot i get memory errors in windows :mad:
I have tried all bios even the 804 but no luck


this cant be a memory problem right ?

p.s my ram is rated for 500mhz :rolleyes:

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wah with ram rated for 500mhz.... now ASUS has really got to get their act together.... GST help us iron this issue out.

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Originally Posted by kidoman

wah with ram rated for 500mhz.... now ASUS has really got to get their act together.... GST help us iron this issue out.

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Yeah it's getting really annoying.. Too many boards and zero support.. FFS such a premium $$$ board and not being able to adjust one two options in subtimings.. :slapass:
Unless they want to hide something.. :confused:

at first i thought it was a strap issue at 370-390 but even at 401-405 4:5 doesnt work.

This seems to be a problem to a select few motherboards :stick: unfortunately we along the unlucky few who are affected.
I emailed asus about this and got a standard canned answer asking me to update bios. :wierd: obviously that doesnt work :mad:

They dont seem to have clue about this problem and absolutely no idea how to fix it.
I been searching a lot on other forums but havnt really found anything much on this.

Orbitech on a P5W ? So this problem is not limited to the P5B :confused:

what revision motherboard do you guys have?

p.s I dont think this has to do anything with g.skill support so should be moved to Intel forums? ;)

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Originally Posted by GrimReaper

at first i thought it was a strap issue at 370-390 but even at 401-405 4:5 doesnt work.

This seems to be a problem to a select few motherboards :stick: unfortunately we along the unlucky few who are affected.
I emailed asus about this and got a standard canned answer asking me to update bios. :wierd: obviously that doesnt work :mad:

They dont seem to have clue about this problem and absolutely no idea how to fix it.
I been searching a lot on other forums but havnt really found anything much on this.

Orbitech on a P5W ? So this problem is not limited to the P5B :confused:

what revision motherboard do you guys have?

p.s I dont think this has to do anything with g.skill support so should be moved to Intel forums? ;)

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I have 1.03 but I've heard 1.02 has the same issue..
Waiting is all we can do.. It's a pity to have the ability to ran ur ram @4:5 @ that fsb but what can we do for the time being? :shakes:

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Originally Posted by Orbitech

I have 1.03 but I've heard 1.02 has the same issue..
Waiting is all we can do.. It's a pity to have the ability to ran ur ram @4:5 @ that fsb but what can we do for the time being? :shakes:

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As usual I again issues a ticket at ASUS Support site. I plan to pursue this, and if required, make some international calls. This issue is really really stupid and is a big PITA.

Hope we get a solution out of this.

Regards,

Karan Misra

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Originally Posted by kidoman

As usual I again issues a ticket at ASUS Support site. I plan to pursue this, and if required, make some international calls. This issue is really really stupid and is a big PITA.

Hope we get a solution out of this.

Regards,

Karan Misra

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plan to do the same.
all of us should register at the asus support :poke: them..

before (another XS member) who also has 500mhz rated ram has the same problem on P5B DX.

we whould start a new thread only for this problem :slapass:

ok, one stupid noobish question, where is TRD settings in memset? is it TRRD? my mobo is p5b-dlx

here

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/7...etv3trdlg2.jpg

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Originally Posted by BenchZowner

here

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/7...etv3trdlg2.jpg

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He asked WHATS the equivalent of tRD in the 965 chipset.... hope this makes the question clearer.

Regards,
Karan

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Originally Posted by tam2

ok, one stupid noobish question, where is TRD settings in memset? is it TRRD? my mobo is p5b-dlx

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i don't know TRD for p5b-D
but if you set sub timing , (the last 4 timing) to 3-11-7-13 (standard timing), it should allow you to do over 400 with DDR2 1000 option



for p5wdh problem..... i am doing the research on ram part... i hope i would able to fix it for you guys
but until now i have no way to change TRD value YET!

I don't found tRD on 965 chipsets,not indiquated in the datasheet.

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Originally Posted by G.S Technician

for p5wdh problem..... i am doing the research on ram part... i hope i would able to fix it for you guys
but until now i have no way to change TRD value YET!

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Thanks m8 we really appreciate your effort and time on this. :)

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Originally Posted by FELIX

I don't found tRD on 965 chipsets,not indiquated in the datasheet.

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they change to someother name i think

TRD is read delay btw

GST