just got my 8800GTX recalled today,but why :mad:
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just got my 8800GTX recalled today,but why :mad:
What?
NDA isn't up until the 8th so that might mean something.
some problems with 2d 3d clock not changing
not right ....Quote:
Originally Posted by metro.cl
what... 8800GTX is already recalled?
Say it aint sooo....
~Mike
Are you sure that you doesnt mean YOUR 7800GTX?Quote:
Originally Posted by dontloveme
Maybe they don't like you ;)
What happened exactly?
There is a piece on this on VR-zone ... I put the link in the news section.
Shame, GTS is unaffected though.
Regards
Andy
i got 1x8800gts and 1x8800gtx from local xfx distributor,but after i brought back to my shop they ask me to send it back coz nvidia is recalling all their 8800gtx,some1 said that the card stops working in certain games.i dont think any1 have got the card tried any games yet =D,so we have no clue what is happening exactly.
a few cards got the wrong transistor so they did the safe route recalled all cards.
the gts version isnt affected.
I'd bet that if a mistake was made, it was made on all cards and that's why all cards are getting recalled. Why all cards don't show symptoms is intriguing though....
I wonder if additional folks that have been testing these cards early can confirm this.
http://www.vr-zone.com/index.php?i=4253
:mad: dont tell me this will be like the 7900s that just die :slapass:
that stinks doesn't it :confused:
I have had the 8800GTX here in Aus for 3 days now, I can confirm that there is a problem from my experiences. sometimes when launching a 3D game or benchmark the card seems to go into a slow mode, about 1/3 of it's usuall speed and there is grafix corruption associated with this slow down in games and 3D benchmarks. It's like the card gets stuck in 2D mode.Quote:
Originally Posted by malficar
The only way I have found to pull it out of it's slow mode is to uninstall/re install the drivers and then it seems to work fine again for a while. In the 3 days I have had the card this problem has happened 6 times so far.
Aside from this when the card is working correctly in 3D the in game preformance is very very good.
Will be getting this card replaced asap with a non broken model for sure.
Is there no 2d/3d process or some registry tweak to force the card in 3D mode like Ati cards have?
Its a resistor problem and is fixed very easily, not a big deal at all.
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Originally Posted by guess2098
that is the explanationQuote:
We heard it is probably due to a resistor controlling 2D/3D switching and that leads to 3D corruption
that is much closerQuote:
Originally Posted by metro.cl
but still not totally right....
most of the 2nd patch card from xfx card are fixed (cuz i saw it)
others like evga i heard they fixed the 2nd patch too
for other other i am not sure....
detail problem i can't post out since it is still NDA
it can always rma XD
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4819
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Specifically, the memo states that some vendor (including EVGA) GeForce 8800GTX based cards will generate artifacts and cause the system to restart after 30 minutes to 2 hours of operation.
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Other manufacturers are also affected, but EVGA was specifically mentioned as having this problem. Any manufacturer shipping cards based on the NVIDIA reference design is not affected.
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The artifacts and crashing are a result of an incorrect resistor value. According to the document, a 50K ohm resistor was installed instead of a 30K ohm and results in artifacts during heavy operation. Nevertheless, the document recommends checking the MOSFET to ensure the proper ones were installed and replace them if necessary
basically, this is a very small problem, and is very localized, and will be easy to fix, and is not a big issue, considering this is before the card even launched... while some companies are already trying to sell them, they are selling them before the official launch date.Quote:
Several other manufacturers, including XFX and ASUS, have confirmed to DailyTech that their GeForce 8800GTX cards are unaffected and will ship at launch without problem.
seeing as how this problem was caught early, I see no reason to assume this would delay the launch, or assume it's a big problem, with other companies already stating this issue is not happening in thier cards, but more specific to EVGA cards... which EVGA does have a week or so to recall, and get new cards out, which for a company, thats enough time to make the second wave of product to the market atleast.
so this doesn't appear to be a big deal...
but most certainly, this will get blown out of proportion, as lots of people, just like creating drama over nothing, then others dont bother reading around, and get thier info from rumours and such.
plain fact is.. this isnt really a big deal.
its a very small problem, that was from mainly 1 company, but might effect some other companies, and it's before launch, so its being recalled from shipping... not from actual customers hands... well, not many atleast.
Good way to find out who sold cards early too, when the affected cards get RMA'ed.
its because of 50K resistor
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Isolated issues with some GeForce 8800GTX graphics cards have forced NVIDIA to stop shipment on some launch cards
A memo published by NVIDIA has circulated through GeForce 8800GTX launch partners claiming some initial G80 cards have been stopped from reaching resellers. Parts of this memo were republished on Bit-Tech earlier today. Specifically, the memo states that some vendor (including EVGA) GeForce 8800GTX based cards will generate artifacts and cause the system to restart after 30 minutes to 2 hours of operation.
Other manufacturers are also affected, but EVGA was specifically mentioned as having this problem. Any manufacturer shipping cards based on the NVIDIA reference design is not affected.
The artifacts and crashing are a result of an incorrect resistor value. According to the document, a 50K ohm resistor was installed instead of a 30K ohm and results in artifacts during heavy operation. Nevertheless, the document recommends checking the MOSFET to ensure the proper ones were installed and replace them if necessary.
EVGA has released a statement to DailyTech claiming "EVGA has been working very closely with NVIDIA to correct an error in an early BOM list for internal testing, sample boards and a few review units. There is no issue with production boards and this will not delay the launch."
Several other manufacturers, including MSI, XFX and ASUS, have confirmed to DailyTech that their GeForce 8800GTX cards are unaffected and will ship at launch without problem.
DailyTech previously explored the performance of NVIDIA’s upcoming G80 GeForce 8800GTX. The card used did not exhibit artifact or restarting issues.
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4819
regards
Mine does the exact same thing, but it would start running at like 5fps, way slower than 1/3 speed. The only way to fix it was reinstall the drivers. I will definitely be returning mine and getting a new one.Quote:
Originally Posted by lowdog
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Originally Posted by cleanerupper
What brand of card and what drivers, 96.89?
This is the way to fix this problem.
Location of R520
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/143/rework1qm5.jpg
Replace R520 with 25.5K resistor
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/4788/rework2tb5.jpg
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Originally Posted by Benny Lodewijk
Got any clearer pics, and what is the fix????
The fix is to lower the reistance to 25.5k of R520, apparently.
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Originally Posted by Benny Lodewijk
That resistor is marked 68C, there is NO marking on the pcb saying R520
Seems strange that Nvidia can pull all these cards in, desolder these resisters and then solder new ones in. Repack them, ship them out to etailers by Weds morning. Just one card would take a skilled person like a half hour, no? Multiply that by thousands of cards and I see weeks. What do they do give the card to a robot, lol.
I think it's the engineers at the resellers that are doing it (EVGA, BFG, XFX, etc.).Quote:
Originally Posted by rodman
Is it an automated process or are they really doing them by hand one by one?Quote:
I think it's the engineers at the resellers that are doing it (EVGA, BFG, XFX, etc.).
ooopss... I can see hundreds of workers in Chinese factories working OT, opening 8800GTX boxes and wicking, desoldering and resoldering all night...
...getting lashed repeatedly with a leather whip to meet the deadline, only to find out that their paycheck is 5 cents and a bowl of soup.Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
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Originally Posted by charlie
Making $3 per month...
Okay guys...seeing as charlie started this, it has the potential of having enough momentum to fill 3 pages....lets not digress lol :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by dnottis
Perkam
Today, i just re-work 8800GTX from Gigabyte.
here's some pictures. Before the value of the resistor is 50K, and the goal is changing the 50K resistor to 25.5K.
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/4...00gtx01xm8.jpg
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/4...00gtx02mo4.jpg
I just looked @ one of my cards and it says 39C.......WTF??? I have 2 more to look at, but my eyes hurt just from trying to look @ this one.
That's fine. Mine says E22, measure 21K5. There are a few 68C popping up, BFG and Sparkle I've seen so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by nr2134