I blew a f-cking CAP!!!

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10-12-2006, 03:05 PM
KoHaN69

I blew a f-cking CAP!!!

OMFGZ!! I was about to do 3.1ghz on my opty146 on air, set settings in bios, restarted... wouldnt start, turn on then off, i unplug, remove bat, do it again, i hear sometihn wierd... then its off, i try again, and pff, crushihchichizhi _ I quickly unplug pc to prevent fire/damage to the rest of the rig.

I now proclaim myself

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/4...remeuk7rm6.gif
10-12-2006, 03:11 PM
Sparky

congrats :p:

now replace that cap and push that chip! :D
10-12-2006, 03:16 PM
KoHaN69

Quote:

Originally Posted by SparkyJJO

congrats :p:

now replace that cap and push that chip! :D

im not sure if its the cap or the mosfets.

its ok, i got a backup board, will probly rma this one
10-12-2006, 03:36 PM
ozzimark

where's the "this thread is useless without pics!" smiley when you need it? :p:
10-12-2006, 03:40 PM
NickS

Quote:

Originally Posted by KoHaN69

OMFGZ!! I was about to do 3.1ghz on my opty146 on air, set settings in bios, restarted... wouldnt start, turn on then off, i unplug, remove bat, do it again, i hear sometihn wierd... then its off, i try again, and pff, crushihchichizhi _ I quickly unplug pc to prevent fire/damage to the rest of the rig.

I now proclaim myself

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/4...remeuk7rm6.gif

I'll go out on a limb here and say.. DFI mobo? :p:
10-12-2006, 03:43 PM
ocmyface

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozzimark

where's the "this thread is useless without pics!" smiley when you need it? :p:

http://www.pcmtl.com/public/misc/thi...thout_pics.gif
10-12-2006, 03:45 PM
nn_step

http://www.pcmtl.com/public/misc/thi...thout_pics.gif
10-12-2006, 03:48 PM
Timmay

Quote:

Originally Posted by nn_step

http://www.pcmtl.com/public/misc/thi...thout_pics.gif

It's true.
10-12-2006, 03:51 PM
ocmyface

muhahaha beat ya nn_step ;)
10-12-2006, 04:24 PM
KoHaN69

It's alive!! It's alive!! my 2.96ghz @1.482v sp2004 7+ hours stable baby is alive!!

I'm doing blend sp2004 testing to check for damage, anything else you guys suggest?

I am running on my second dfi board, i don't want to power this one again

There's not much to see, I smelled what's going on and unplugged it just in time before the thing blew a hole in the board.

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/4875/img2588nl5.jpg

The one with R60 - I guess that's a mosfet, not a cap? Bah, need to study more electronics than just overclockics
10-12-2006, 04:29 PM
ozzimark

Quote:

Originally Posted by KoHaN69

The one with R60 - I guess that's a mosfet, not a cap? Bah, need to study more electronics than just overclockics

neither actually.. an inductor ;)
10-12-2006, 04:38 PM
KoHaN69

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozzimark

neither actually.. an inductor ;)

Thank you. It's the one that inducts - right?

I thought it's the cap, because the smoke and sparks seemed to be coming from it, but in the 0.3 seconds I didn't take a close look from where it was exactly coming from.

and Nicks- Where is my limb?! I want it shipped in ice, fedex overnight!!

....just kidding, it was a DFI :p:
( I still wouldn't mind your limb though)
Are they known for faulty caps?
10-12-2006, 04:51 PM
NickS

No, but they're known for faulty everything lol ;)

Your board must be borked or something. I've done 3.2Ghz @ 1.7v in my MSI and had no problem... air. Opty 148. I have same inductors too, R60.
10-12-2006, 04:58 PM
KoHaN69

or maybe it was the 20watt fan i plugged in the mobo....
10-12-2006, 05:09 PM
NickS

LOL I doubt it'd do anything to CPU PWM but I'm suprised it didnt blow a trace!
10-12-2006, 05:20 PM
Serge84

Quote:

Originally Posted by nn_step

http://www.pcmtl.com/public/misc/thi...thout_pics.gif

Indeed
10-12-2006, 05:24 PM
Serge84

Quote:

Originally Posted by KoHaN69

It's alive!! It's alive!! my 2.96ghz @1.482v sp2004 7+ hours stable baby is alive!!

I'm doing blend sp2004 testing to check for damage, anything else you guys suggest?

There's not much to see, I smelled what's going on and unplugged it just in time before the thing blew a hole in the board.

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/4875/img2588nl5.jpg

The one with R60 - I guess that's a mosfet, not a cap? Bah, need to study more electronics than just overclockics

Wow you managed to blow a inductor thats pretty extreme.
10-12-2006, 05:26 PM
nn_step

I wonder what crazy :banana::banana::banana::banana: you did to do that. Because that has to be a one in a million thing
10-12-2006, 05:41 PM
ozzimark

Quote:

Originally Posted by nn_step

I wonder what crazy :banana::banana::banana::banana: you did to do that. Because that has to be a one in a million thing

YARLY!

it's not like they're really hot too.. just a passive element :confused2
10-12-2006, 05:56 PM
KoHaN69

Quote:

Originally Posted by nn_step

I wonder what crazy :banana::banana::banana::banana: you did to do that. Because that has to be a one in a million thing

1.776v on the cpu
10-12-2006, 06:15 PM
NickS

I know people that have done ~2.0v on ttheir CPU's with that board lol.
10-12-2006, 07:20 PM
WeStSiDePLaYa

you must not have been cooling it properly, as there is pretty much nothing to fail on an inductor.

it is only a piece of wire wrapped around a core, often ferrite, to create a magnetic field(inductance).

the only possible explanation is that you let it get too hot, the metal wire expanded and cracked the ceramic casing.

actually, thats pretty much the only thing it could be, because if you destroyed the inductor the board wouldnt work.
10-12-2006, 07:38 PM
Serge84

Thats what I wonder... because wow not much on one of those things that can fail atleast its only damaged. Thats a pretty hard thing to do...
10-12-2006, 07:40 PM
Super Nade

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozzimark

YARLY!

it's not like they're really hot too.. just a passive element :confused2

Maybe a short. That's why it is all boxed up. It can't be fully boxed up as it does need to keep cool. :)
10-12-2006, 07:45 PM
KoHaN69

Well, my case door is off and i have airflow from a HR-01 tight next to it
10-12-2006, 08:18 PM
nn_step

I personally am Very curious how exactly that happened. seems to me something like that shouldn't happen. And part of me wonders why it did.
10-12-2006, 08:26 PM
MaxxxRacer

wth.. inductors are pretty near impossible to blow. although PC power and cooling seemed to have an inductor problem a while back.
10-12-2006, 08:27 PM
STEvil

the glue probably caught fire.
10-12-2006, 09:18 PM
KoHaN69

Alright. I'll try to explain as clear as possible.

I was at
1.3v LDT
1.7v chipset

305fsb @ 1.55v*104% (=1.612) vcore

To add more cooling I hooked up a 120mm delta fan (Model: WFB1212HHE dc 12v 1.00A -F00 ) to the molex before my hard drive.
I have an OCZ 520W power supply, and that molex line was only connected to hd and that fan.

I powered up and went to the bios, changed the settings to:
310fsb @ 1.55*113% (=1.7515v), saved and exited.

Now I'm uncertain if it turned off by itself here or not.

But after it was off, I tried to turn it on:
one red light came out for about 0.4 seconds and it turned off, I tried once or twice more, but it wouldn't budge, it was like trying to start a car when a battery is too low.

Then I switched cmos jumper, took out battery and tuend off psu.
After a few seconds, I turned on psu and attempted to turn on the pc again.
Same thing, but I heard something hiss, then on second try, I saw sparks/fire fly out of the are where I took the picture posted above.
I instinctively unplugged the power cable out of the psu.

I thought it was a capacitor because it was the same smell I once sense when a capacitor blew on a video card.

OH yea, it's a LanPart Ultra-D nf4u91-100 R.AB0
10-12-2006, 09:22 PM
Serge84

I did some tests so... Well my case door blew off my case just a few hours ago from setting the vcore to 2.1v. =P That may have explained what really happened. XP J/K
10-12-2006, 10:40 PM
Juggalo_X

Quote:

Originally Posted by KoHaN69

Alright. I'll try to explain as clear as possible.

I was at
1.3v LDT
1.7v chipset

305fsb @ 1.55v*104% (=1.612) vcore

To add more cooling I hooked up a 120mm delta fan (Model: WFB1212HHE dc 12v 1.00A -F00 ) to the molex before my hard drive.
I have an OCZ 520W power supply, and that molex line was only connected to hd and that fan.

I powered up and went to the bios, changed the settings to:
310fsb @ 1.55*113% (=1.7515v), saved and exited.

Now I'm uncertain if it turned off by itself here or not.

But after it was off, I tried to turn it on:
one red light came out for about 0.4 seconds and it turned off, I tried once or twice more, but it wouldn't budge, it was like trying to start a car when a battery is too low.

Then I switched cmos jumper, took out battery and tuend off psu.
After a few seconds, I turned on psu and attempted to turn on the pc again.
Same thing, but I heard something hiss, then on second try, I saw sparks/fire fly out of the are where I took the picture posted above.
I instinctively unplugged the power cable out of the psu.

I thought it was a capacitor because it was the same smell I once sense when a capacitor blew on a video card.

OH yea, it's a LanPart Ultra-D nf4u91-100 R.AB0

your not suposed to take the battery out of the lanparty boards it mucks with their voltage settings read a few threads on this at dfi-street thats most likely what happened aparently if u remove the battery it can send about 2.0v to ur chip and possibly smoke it.
10-12-2006, 10:44 PM
KoHaN69

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juggalo_X

your not suposed to take the battery out of the lanparty boards it mucks with their voltage settings read a few threads on this at dfi-street thats most likely what happened aparently if u remove the battery it can send about 2.0v to ur chip and possibly smoke it.

negative. I've taken out the battery in my motherboard dozens of times, even while the board was still on. (yet this wasn't one off them, the board was off).
And the strange hissing follwoed by immediate turn-off was apparent before I took out the battery.

Good thought though, nevertheless
10-12-2006, 11:01 PM
Nanometer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juggalo_X

your not suposed to take the battery out of the lanparty boards it mucks with their voltage settings read a few threads on this at dfi-street thats most likely what happened aparently if u remove the battery it can send about 2.0v to ur chip and possibly smoke it.

Sombody doesn't know how to properly clear a DFI NF4 CMOS!!! :p: lol but he is right, pulling the battery is actually considered part of the standard way for DFI.
10-13-2006, 10:24 AM
v0dka

I really doubt it was the Vcore, heres waht happend to me this week.

Accidentaly put Vcore @ 1.525*136% instead of putting it on 1.525*auto. My opty took alost 2.1v for about 30 seconds until the thermal protection (60C) shut the machine off.

Pretty stuypid yes :slapass: :D
10-13-2006, 02:59 PM
ExRoadie

The proper Clear CMOS for the Expert/Venus board always included the following warning.

When performing a Clear CMOS, always replace the battery before moving the jumper back to the "normal" position.

This allows any current surge from the battery replacement to be shunted to ground when the battery makes contact.
10-13-2006, 03:35 PM
Super Nade

Check the voltage on your CMOS battery, if there was indeed surge current which smoked the inductor, your battery should have discharged completely or even blown up by itself.

I doubt his case has anything to do with the battery.
10-13-2006, 03:47 PM
KoHaN69

AS I said, the smell and autturnoffs started occurring before the battery switch

and the battery is still good.

Good thinking though
11-03-2006, 02:42 PM
KoHaN69

DFI found nothing wrong with it O.O
11-03-2006, 02:53 PM
nn_step

ex:banana::banana::banana::banana:in'cuse me?
11-03-2006, 03:00 PM
KoHaN69

Quote:

Originally Posted by nn_step

ex:banana::banana::banana::banana:in'cuse me?

qft

I just got it, left them a message, they'll call me back.

There's no way I'm gonna put any of my parts in it.
11-03-2006, 03:25 PM
eXa

U mean they didnt even notice that blown inductor?
11-03-2006, 05:54 PM
osiris999

weird
11-03-2006, 06:41 PM
Zardokk

Heh...you'd think they'd pay attention to something like that.
11-04-2006, 03:56 AM
largon

Inductors don't burn due to electrical stress because there's actually nothing that could burn for an inductor is just a coil of (thick) copper wire wrapped around a ferrite core.

:confused:
11-04-2006, 06:42 PM
KoHaN69

It's not blown, it lit on fire.

and largon - you are full of boloney ;) anything and everything burns
11-04-2006, 06:48 PM
dinos22

pfft self proclaimed xtremist :p: :D
11-13-2006, 02:39 PM
KoHaN69

they replaced the chipset on it (they ay it was overheating)

Hope nothing else goes wrong :)
11-13-2006, 03:04 PM
nn_step

Crank it until it breaks
11-13-2006, 06:15 PM
KoHaN69

Quote:

Originally Posted by nn_step

Crank it until it breaks

vcore @ 1.8v ? :slap:
I http://images.google.com/images?q=tb...ault/heart.gif my opty :toast:
11-21-2006, 12:02 AM
KoHaN69

I made a duct so heat should never be an issue

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=124032

/*close thread */
11-21-2006, 09:33 AM
rob[GL]

Maybe I'm more of a noob than I thought... But looking at that picture, I can't seem to find anything wrong? :(

I've never used a DFI product before though... And I just woke up, maybe that's part of it too...

Could someone please circle the problem area?
11-21-2006, 10:43 AM
SnipingWaste

I hate the new inductors because the wire that is used in them is thinner and they heat up because they have to deal with the amps and the wire used is to thin and heat up just like running a ext core that is to thin with a high amp device.