ATI RD600, a very good DDR2 Overclker, ddr2_1220 4-4-4-12 done

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10-06-2006, 12:17 PM
VictorWang

ATI RD600, a very good DDR2 Overclker, ddr2_1220 4-4-4-12 done

finally got this mobo working.
but cpu patch seems have some problem.
even I moded with asus' cpu code, it still not work :(
do not support my b1/b2 es/retail Conroe in hand, only run at 100mhz fsb.
I can only use clkgen overclk a liitle. could not higher than 1.9Ghz with my x6800.

but. this mobo is definetly a very good overclker for ddr2.
totally free ram overclking feature, max vdimm=2.55v, sub_ram_timings etc...

my Team DDR2_1000 get ddr2_1220 4-4-4-12 with only 2.55v in bios.

http://vic.expreview.com/attachment/1160165335.png

http://vic.expreview.com/attachment/1160165350.png
10-06-2006, 12:21 PM
LowRun

:eek: Impressive ram settings.
10-06-2006, 12:24 PM
[timko]

Probably not going to be much but any chance of bandwidth shots? Everest/Sandra :)
10-06-2006, 12:27 PM
GrimReaper

wow hot stuff :slobber:

got some pics of the mobo? :D
10-06-2006, 12:29 PM
[timko]

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrimReaper

got some pics of the mobo? :D

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ighlight=rd600

Remember it's a pre-production board that's approx 2months old already so the final version will be different, at the very least the color scheme.
10-06-2006, 01:17 PM
jmax_oc

With same voltage, is it a ddr2 overclocking difference between rd600 and 965/975 chipset ?
10-06-2006, 04:59 PM
I)ickie

Thats great News.
Supposedly Oskar from DFI was having some problems with weak ram overclocking. Hopefuly this is a good sign for their motherboard. Some everest sandra shots and a compo to another chipset would be a great addition to this thread if you have time.
Thanks for the heads up Victor
10-06-2006, 06:07 PM
qdemn7

2 Attachment(s)

The DFI version of this board looks absolutely spectacular. This is the board I'm going to buy assuming it performs as well as the ref. board.
10-06-2006, 08:52 PM
Knight

I like that second attachment... It looks hot. :slobber:
10-06-2006, 09:40 PM
alpha0ne

As long as the CPU ends up being able to OC as well as the ram they should sell easily :)
10-06-2006, 10:08 PM
Rol-Co

youre kidding us victor....the board is a dud and now you gonna tell us it looks good because of the ram running 610,......?????

Youre a funny guy :D , the ram looks good you mean, but i think there is a lot more ram who can do 610 @2,55v with that bus speed.

wait till its working good with a "working" bios then you can show.
10-06-2006, 10:14 PM
Dumo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rol-Co

youre kidding us victor....the board is a dud and now you gonna tell us it looks good because of the ram running 610,......?????

Youre a funny guy :D , the ram looks good you mean, but i think there is a lot more ram who can do 610 @2,55v with that bus speed.

wait till its working good with a "working" bios then you can show.

Whats wrong? Its a beta board...What do you expect.....

At least we can see something different than 100s of 975/965 boards here.
Its not a "show"...Its an info and alternative is always good.

@VW...Nice going there:)
10-06-2006, 10:49 PM
VictorWang

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rol-Co

youre kidding us victor....the board is a dud and now you gonna tell us it looks good because of the ram running 610,......?????

Youre a funny guy :D , the ram looks good you mean, but i think there is a lot more ram who can do 610 @2,55v with that bus speed.

wait till its working good with a "working" bios then you can show.

I just told it's a mobo good for ram overcling, nothing else.
with a beta mob and beta bios, it can only support B0 stepping Conroe or earlier, I have no old cpu in hand so I cannot test as ATI showed me they achieved 3.85G with a X6800es B0 stepping on Air with ramclk at 625mhz CL=4.
if you think ur ram can to 1G*2 dual-channel ddr2_1220 4-4-4-12 with only 2.51v vdimm. you can try it and show us.
don't mention FSB high or low, 'coz ram clk is not FSB:RAM ratio related on RD600. you'd better read through RD600's white paper first.
10-06-2006, 11:02 PM
Dumo

Same fate as DFI infinity...Tested open up multi with 6800 BO:(

Where all those BOs now?
10-06-2006, 11:12 PM
Lestat

can you show us some FSB clocking Victor ?
10-06-2006, 11:17 PM
Rol-Co

i think those stick's can do that job or come very close at 2.55v will try later on.

don't get me wrong vw , the post was not to f*$k you up, but better wait till a good cpu or bios for it don't you think.

dfi got already a bit damaged name with the infinity, don't think this will help.
10-06-2006, 11:52 PM
maxxxxel

This is great work you are doing VictorWang :clap: I know for sure that this is going to be a great mobo. :banana:
10-07-2006, 12:01 AM
Dumo

Always:)
Heres where all started from VW...http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=95021
10-07-2006, 12:04 AM
Counter CS

Well, that must be the reason of all those delays...

Lets wait for better BIOS:stick:
10-07-2006, 12:36 AM
VictorWang

tried my micron ddr2 667 with ecc 1g*2 on the mobo.

originally about 2.6v 4-3-2-8 510mhz pi_1m on P5WD2-P mod.
now 2.51v 510mhz 4-3-2-8 pi_1m with RD600, very impressive.
'coz of poor fsb problem, sandra bandwidth is quite low.
I'm trying to find a B0 chip or get a 965XE for more testing.

thx everyone
10-07-2006, 01:26 AM
kemo

nice work Victor
Is this gona be the final version of the mobo or their is more to come
Edit : sorry , missed [timko] second post
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volcano vaporizer
10-07-2006, 03:08 AM
zert

wow very impressive, thanks for sharing this with us Victor Wang :toast:
but why does cpu-z read the mobo as Xpress 1250 (RS600) in stead of Xpress3200 (RD600)
have u actually got a RS600 board or is it just a CPUz bug?
10-07-2006, 03:46 AM
VictorWang

Quote:

Originally Posted by zert

wow very impressive, thanks for sharing this with us Victor Wang :toast:
but why does cpu-z read the mobo as Xpress 1250 (RS600) in stead of Xpress3200 (RD600)
have u actually got a RS600 board or is it just a CPUz bug?

cpuz bug :)
10-07-2006, 05:04 AM
Frank M

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rol-Co

youre kidding us victor....the board is a dud and now you gonna tell us it looks good because of the ram running 610,......?????

I think you are holding it at the other end.

Look at it this way: this is a two-month old, experimental board, which is unfortunately still not fully operational. However, even in this state, it can do DDR2-1220 4-4-4-12 @ 2.55. Then imagine what a fixed, matured board can do :slobber: :banana:

Good thing that I'm broke, now I can wait for them to come out :)
10-07-2006, 05:06 AM
Waus-mod

Well why all the complaining?

just an pre es sample that is allready performing like a rocket. Besides this many people "under us" now what this board is capable off!

RD600.. not only new chipset, other mem clocking and many more benefits. Besides this the chipset is allready showing of faster results then i975. I only dont think it will be much faster in fsb then the 965 is.

I dont get it why people crack of this chipset. I can really say this board (especially with dfi) will be a rocker! 500fsb out of the box will be more common then i975.. trust me.

Besides this.... sample's will spread out soon ;) no pre sample's any more! full dfi power!

gogogo VW ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Counter CS

Well, that must be the reason of all those delays...

Lets wait for better BIOS:stick:

Delay?? i dont see a delay!
10-07-2006, 05:11 AM
theteamaqua

i think this chipset will rock, but hte future is no where near bright as ATI prolly wont provide any support for it even though its the best Conroe/Kentsfield chipset.

I hope nVidia make something liek this , RAM / CPU frequency async....

cuz if i want multi GPU i gotta get nVidia. i dont think AMD will let ATI make any chipset for intel after this one, so that means no ATI crossfire for intel....

maybe Bearlake X will support both SLI and Crossfire ? eh?

so when is this board com'n?
10-07-2006, 05:27 AM
Waus-mod

Sample's will spread out late this or next month. I think retail in beginning dec.
10-07-2006, 05:49 AM
zert

Quote:

Originally Posted by theteamaqua

maybe Bearlake X will support both SLI and Crossfire ? eh?

so when is this board com'n?

i don't think AMD will let intel use it's crossfire technique in the future boards. and just hold crossfire as an AMD platform only feature.
kinda like intel not wanting to renew ati's chipset license
10-07-2006, 06:24 AM
jmax_oc

Quote:

Originally Posted by VictorWang

tried my micron ddr2 667 with ecc 1g*2 on the mobo.

originally about 2.6v 4-3-2-8 510mhz pi_1m on P5WD2-P mod.
now 2.51v 510mhz 4-3-2-8 pi_1m with RD600, very impressive.
'coz of poor fsb problem, sandra bandwidth is quite low.
I'm trying to find a B0 chip or get a 965XE for more testing.

thx everyone

Very interesting :D
10-07-2006, 06:33 AM
Super Nade

Victor, thank you for the preview. Could you please show us the BIOS options available. What kind of fine tuning parameters are available? :)
10-07-2006, 07:20 AM
Lestat

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmax_oc

Very interesting :D

thats called a much much better voltage control.. thats why it clocks better at lower volts.
either that or the other timings are really loose compared to the other board
10-07-2006, 11:04 AM
cpuz

Very nice clocks Victor.
I had this board in hand for a while, then I added in the latest clockgen (http://www.cpuid.com/download/ClockGen.zip) a slider for memory clock control on this wonderful chipset. Yes, it can be changed on the fly !

This asynch memory clock feature is never-seen before. Helas, seems that the RD600 will be the last ATi chipset for Intel CPUs, and this feature is non applicable on K8. What a shame :(
10-07-2006, 11:29 AM
lawrywild

Quote:

Originally Posted by cpuz

Very nice clocks Victor.
I had this board in hand for a while, then I added in the latest clockgen (http://www.cpuid.com/download/ClockGen.zip) a slider for memory clock control on this wonderful chipset. Yes, it can be changed on the fly !

This asynch memory clock feature is never-seen before. Helas, seems that the RD600 will be the last ATi chipset for Intel CPUs, and this feature is non applicable on K8. What a shame :(

that sounds so good.

Might start saving for RD600 :D
10-07-2006, 05:35 PM
VictorWang

Quote:

Originally Posted by cpuz

Very nice clocks Victor.
I had this board in hand for a while, then I added in the latest clockgen (http://www.cpuid.com/download/ClockGen.zip) a slider for memory clock control on this wonderful chipset. Yes, it can be changed on the fly !

This asynch memory clock feature is never-seen before. Helas, seems that the RD600 will be the last ATi chipset for Intel CPUs, and this feature is non applicable on K8. What a shame :(

thx frank, yes I'm using clkgen 1.05 pull the fsb, but seems hit the wall arround 170fsb :( (original=100fsb by deafult coz of bios don't support b1/b2 chip ).

use ICS 954519 right ?
10-07-2006, 07:56 PM
erwinz

thanks VictorWang for sharing.. :D

for a two month old modo.. this :rocker:

:woot: looking forward for more of your results.. :)
10-08-2006, 07:07 PM
VictorWang

tried a 965xe on the mobo...still no supported :(
maybe my mobo has some problem and hasn't fully repaired..................
10-08-2006, 07:38 PM
erwinz

hope the ATI guy gives you their latest ES.. :D many xs members and visitors are looking forward for this board.. :)
10-09-2006, 01:47 AM
maxxxxel

Does the indepedant mem overclocking mean that some DDR2 modules would need to be retested again to find their max OC, becuase we wont be stopped by the limits of the CPU. Im thinking allot more DDR2 modules would be able to OC more than in the list in this post
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=114977
10-09-2006, 02:22 AM
erwinz

yup yup i think so. :D but for now.. lets just wait.. :)

hey Victor any updates? ;)
10-09-2006, 04:44 AM
maxxxxel

When did they start talking about this board june-july. Now we are into October, if its not out by the beg. December, then im going ASUS i just cant wait any longer
10-09-2006, 05:14 AM
Gambit_2K

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxxxxel

When did they start talking about this board june-july. Now we are into October, if its not out by the beg. December, then im going ASUS i just cant wait any longer

The board has had the late September/late October tag as a release date all along I believe. So it's not been pushed up much.
10-09-2006, 05:23 AM
maxxxxel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gambit_2K

The board has had the late September/late October as a release date all along I bealive. So it's not been pushed up much.

Thanks, i just hope so. They would have come with a press release if it was going to be Nov-Dec

ATI to launch RD600 in October
http://www.digitimes.com/mobos/a20060919A2006.html

Guess we will have to drool over this picture for now: :slobber:
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/7855/dfird600rq0.jpg
10-09-2006, 06:08 AM
VictorWang

haha, great results will come out.
I just found and tried several combine of jumpers on the mobo and moded an older bios.
great it's worked !
now benching my E6700es B1 :D
3.8G , ddr2_1200 4-4-4-4 pi_1m=13.547sec
10-09-2006, 06:10 AM
maxxxxel

Quote:

Originally Posted by VictorWang

haha, great results will come out.
I just found and tried several combine of jumpers on the mobo and moded an older bios.
great it's worked !
now benching my E6700es B1 :D
3.8G , ddr2_1200 4-4-4-4 pi_1m=13.547sec

Nice !!!! :toast: Keep us upto date :clap:
10-09-2006, 06:48 AM
qdemn7

Great Victor, keep it up. Thanks for all the hard work. :woot:
10-09-2006, 06:53 AM
jmax_oc

Quote:

Originally Posted by VictorWang

haha, great results will come out.
I just found and tried several combine of jumpers on the mobo and moded an older bios.
great it's worked !
now benching my E6700es B1 :D
3.8G , ddr2_1200 4-4-4-4 pi_1m=13.547sec

Seems to be a bit slower than Intel chipset...
10-09-2006, 08:37 AM
maxxxxel

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmax_oc

Seems to be a bit slower than Intel chipset...

Here we go again :mad: , this is a 2 month old prototype board.
You cannot compare a retail product with a board thats under development

Edit: Sorry for typo
10-09-2006, 09:04 AM
VictorWang

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmax_oc

Seems to be a bit slower than Intel chipset...

you cannot compare RD600's perclk performance with 975x,
965 is the target.

btw: Just installed my X1950XTX CF on the mobo.
with a single card, 747_1134, 3.8G cpu, 3Dmark05=15047.
now benching on Crossfire :D
10-09-2006, 09:34 AM
jmax_oc

I just see that this prototype board is slower than intel retail ones.
I'm waiting with impatience the retail rd600 boards :D
10-09-2006, 10:13 AM
erwinz

Quote:

Originally Posted by VictorWang

you cannot compare RD600's perclk performance with 975x,
965 is the target.

btw: Just installed my X1950XTX CF on the mobo.
with a single card, 747_1134, 3.8G cpu, 3Dmark05=15047.
now benching on Crossfire :D

waiting for your results.. :D really excellent Victor.. :woot:

wow benching the RD600 :rocker:
10-09-2006, 10:46 AM
maxxxxel

This is great, finally this board is getting tested. Dont forget this is the ATI sample so it will be interesting to see first samples of the DFI board. Really hope its scheduled for October
10-09-2006, 11:27 AM
zert

Benching RD600 :YIPPIE:
Victor you ARE the man.
cant wait for your results. and keep it up, you got all of us hanging on your lips
10-09-2006, 02:37 PM
camouflage

:D Hope we will see the DFI board in action still in November as promised.....:stick:
10-09-2006, 02:40 PM
PcCI2iminal

Quote:

Originally Posted by VictorWang

you cannot compare RD600's perclk performance with 975x,
965 is the target.

btw: Just installed my X1950XTX CF on the mobo.
with a single card, 747_1134, 3.8G cpu, 3Dmark05=15047.
now benching on Crossfire :D

very nice!!!!

im looking forward

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