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Fake? Or some other weird card? :p
From this thread: http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showth...=33576&page=25
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Fake? Or some other weird card? :p
From this thread: http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showth...=33576&page=25
It's real.
That would be 8800GT and 8800GTX from the looks of it indeed....the GTX being the one with the WC barbs.
EDIT: no sign of dual-die though....this is very intriguing....and nV seems to be very gutsy.
same size as the 7900GX2(original 7950) right?
wont fit in most cases!
hmmm
any eta on when we can expect this?
source of the images.... :slobber:
gone be some power hungry beast
It looks the size of a battleship ..lets hope it has some big guns to go with it.
I like the memory placement, not a very sexy card though. Doesn't blow me away to be honest on pure looks
Regards
Andy
Two 6 pin connectors. Looks like we've finnally got out 200w card.
I thought ati would be first though hehe.
To bad there are no pics of the core, we could finnaly put the 750m transistor rumor to rest.
Also 12 memory chips, looks like 784mb of ram was right.
http://desertshooter.nl/WCkoelerg80.jpg
What is it? Watercooling?
Yes, the hybrid water/air cooler developed by CoolerMaster (IIRC).
Seems to only be for the GTX.
768mb of ram the back side of the card looks crowed wanna see benches
2 power connectors, 250W+ power consumption?
That thing is huge, but I like the many mounting holes around the GPU, so current watercoolers might fit.
Looks somehow odd. I wonder why its that long.
Interesting cooling concept anyway.
Hopefully there will be a 8300GT as well.
:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fr3ak
So if it has got all that bandwidth does that mean it is a 32 pixel pipeline card plus 10/12/? vertex+geometry shaders ?
Regards
Andy
2x 6-pin power connectors means up to 225W on PCIe v1 standards. Up to 300W on PCIe v2 standards. Not sure which 'standard' this card follows...but it should be apparent that this puppy draws a lot of power.
And yeah, a current GPU block will fit....but I do wonder what those other holes around the die are for....:confused:
Andy...at this point rumored specs only say 2x pixel shaders and 12x vertex shaders. :shrug: Not sure what the second mem controller is for, but the new AA method (FCAA) might lend us a hint :)
hmm im a bit dissapointed by the size ofit.
Also it kindsa sux that if ul get a GTX ul also have ot get watercooling.
or is the watercooling optional?
Looks fake to me
I don't see how the 'watercooling' part works though... it's barely touching the base.
Exactly :slap:Quote:
Originally Posted by HKPolice
Wait what it neeeds two connections to the PSU?
to get lots of power :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shift
Those pictures look so crappy I'm going to say it's fake. If it is real then... How does nvidia expect to push SLI? You will need a dedicated SLI PSU.
pc power and cooling 1kw has 4 6pin connectors
IF its real, that watercooling may be the worst design ever.
grr L's on watercooling? eh, IT looks huge, even though its just in its early stages, but its prolly a monster (not to R600 tho :p: )
Damn that thing is huge. Ireallly dont like the idea of having 2 psus for these cards in sli.
is that a freaking buzzer on the right of the card? :confused:
Why not a pic of Front of the card.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: The Photographer is hiding something. LOL:stick: :stick:
When you guys say "fake" do you mean photochopped? They are crappy pics but the card looks real to me. Too many from too many different angles to be fake.
That's just a mofo of a card .. wow .. now where are pics of the R600 :)
Yeah...Vista requires sound, remember? :wasntme:Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
I'd bet it serves the same function as the LEDs on the X19s, letting people know what's wrong with the card....two power plugs (and not split from one!), a heavy cooler (pulling it out of the slot maybe?), a cooler that requires on a fan and a pump....what I'm getting across is there's a lot that could go wrong, and some LEDs may not be enough, we need them beats.
wowww....that things is so long...good thing I have a stacker :)
yes because then I would have to be able to remember beep codes for both my motherboard AND graphics card, and have to try to keep the tones seperated. So that I don't accidentally cram an extra 40v through the graphics card in attempt to correct an undervolting errorQuote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
If you have Sli then you could have beeps in stereo :cool:
Regards
Andy
lmao, nice one!
But are you sure its a beeper? Looks like a LED to me.
Would have looked better if the edge of the card came where the heatsink ends. But I guess the size is needed for these beasts if the specs are true.
What kinda fans are that, differs a lot from the previous ones. The fins are rather short and reminds me of the DFI chipset fan design. Guess these are designed for high rpm by the looks of it. :/
Why are there holes just before the back pci bracket in the heatsink cover, wouldn't it be better to try and get all of the air exhausted out of the case? Well not that it's any difficult to fix that... and there's 3rd party solutions for cooling needs anyways so no big deal but we don't see much of the "real thing", if they only could chop that heatsink off already. :p:
Backside looks pretty cluttered despite the size. :D
Hmm... Interesting water cooling design. This is something like the hybrid air/water cooler I tried to make with a stock AMD heatsink. I think the problem people are having with it is because it's not a block on the core. It has pipes, and works in just the opposite way the radiator on your WC setups do. The fins on the heatsink get hot, heat up the water in the pipes, and carry it away. I like it!
Ryan
I wonder if 225W is really enough juice. Now I'm thinking they will lower their clocks in order to consume only 225W.
this card's lenght almost longer than the legendary voodoo5 6000 .. anyidea how
long the r600 will be ?
I hope this is not the final release. They could have given us a brick power outlet to offset the power requirements but they decided to go the cheap route.
They'll give you one for an extra $100 per card.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle
You can always just get the Thermaltake dedicated PSU for GPU, that thing isn't expensive.
Is this a DX10 card???
sombody mirror the pictures here pls, can't see this source at the office.
cant see the ones on imageshack and the ones from original source?Quote:
Originally Posted by freecableguy
wow.... This is nuts.
~Mike
oh wow. That's the ugliest thing ever. The 7900gtx looked awesome...
Why do people care about what it looks like?
It's performance is what will sell this card, not it's looks ;)
I care about both :D.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_fx
Have to say, ugly card........7900gtx/x1950xtx are a lot more impressive :D
Geforce 7900GTX = +/- 23 cmQuote:
Originally Posted by HolyAk
3dfx Voodoo 5 6000 = +/- 32 cm
And this one looks like it is as long as the 7900GTX, so still 9cm to go. ;)
the card is 28cm long.. so its 5cm longer then the 7900gtx.. and 4cm shorter then the 3dfx Voodoo 5 6000 :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Vassili
if it puts out the numbers we like then to hell with it lookng ad hoc, because it will be sitting in a case anyway.
Besides unless you have a "BTX" mobo tray going, then seeing the "top" of the card really deosn't matter.
WHere are the ####s!
I think the Enermax Galaxy has 6 6-pin molex connectors. 200watt was expected. But boy I really had my doubts about 12 GDDR chips. It looks and sounds stupid. But if it performs, what does it matter..
It's efficiency does matter! Why? Because they will have you buying again once they introduce the more efficient 1 Gig, 2 ram chip, smaller foot print digital PCB model, producing only 50 watts of heat using 1/3 scale Alu HS, using clocked at 500/1000 producing 8,000 on 3D06 (for example) that's why...Quote:
Originally Posted by Nanometer
This unit is pure "feel the need" marketing IMO
That card is just silly. Far too big, and the cooler doesn't look great.
I really can't believe they made the card this big.
Example,
6800GT/Ultra huge pcb design
7600GT small pcb design yet it owns the 6800GT.
If they tried harder i'm sur ethey would have gotten a smaller card :rolleyes:
i hope they have aircooler for the GTX, then again i can wait for G80's GeForce 7950GX2 equivalent
shame about the lack of dual GPUs :(... the size of the core is massive though!! :O
Well if the One Core needs such a cooling solution as the Pre production is hinting towards then a Dual PCB design like the 7950GX2 would be a rediculous design with the current Solutions they look F*ing crap to put it mildly I doubt the Finished Production Model will look as messy as this PCB is far to big, looks like a beta Model
I guess that old "confidential" drawing wasn't too far off afterall
link
"not intended for those at work"
Wow this is just so stupid. Big, ugly, and power-hungry. The water cooler looks like crap. Can you use it with air only? I wouldn't trust some idiot from Dell putting together a water cooling system for dual 8800GTX's... I don't think my dad would even allow something that sucks that much power into the house, nevermind SLi.
Usama aka Ferrari Freak
I hope that the second PEG connector is not a necessity, if so, then this card will never be bought by me.
I call it WORK!
Well actually I just think this is probably not going to be the final retail version, problably an experimental PCB yet, just like the initial GX2. Hopefully they will shorten that length by the final product.
Nothing wrong with the coolers though, they look silent and well designed like all Nvidia coolers since the 6 series. Only the coulor and the plainess of it look bit :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing ugly but that will go away by retail version.
It doesn't look silent to me, but I'm not really bothered by this as I'm planning on getting watercooling.
The card does look real indeed, suspect thing is that the guy who took the pics disassembled the heatsink and "forgot" to take a pic of the core.
I think the combined air/water solution for the heatsink is crap anyway.
Isn't it likely that he didn't show the die for NDA reasons?
He wouldnt be able to show ANY pictures of the card if it was for NDA reasonsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dimitriman
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle
Haha that made me cry! :D
hahaha lol that kid is awesome
First thing I do with this card is remove the speaker :D
Looks like this card has a very high chance to be built just like the 7950GX2. Just look at the PCB the designs are way to similar. I sense another Prescott haha.
you should really put a not work safe on that or something... although its a drawing my boss here really didn't appreciate that all that much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle
I think its necessity because if you look at the PCB, one of the 6 pin PEGs is in a place that for a 8 pin PEG.Quote:
Originally Posted by Helmore
LOL! I agree :D !Quote:
Originally Posted by zakelwe
The reason for the screws is that he only has one card and wanted to show off both coolers.
No idea why there are no core pics.
Probably because these pics were for internal discution and got leaked. whoever leaked them probably dosent have the card themselves and just picked them off a server somewhere.
God I hope not, but it might just be what they need to head in the right directionQuote:
Originally Posted by Nanometer
that is :rofl: funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle
hope the G80 owns.
Looks like NV has finally come full circle....the FX is back!! ;)
http://lambcutlet.org/albums/NV30/gffx2.sized.jpg
HAHA.Quote:
Originally Posted by SoddemFX
I think we might need one more generation of cards ... with dual GPU and 1.5gb or memory to get to true 3Dfx sillyness.
To excede it you need a card so long that it comes with a dremel in the box ... to cut a slot into the front of your case so it can stick out :P
I hope its GDDR4...and if it is, its going to cost quite a bit considering its a 2006 part.
Just don't expect it to outperform the 7950GX2...that just isn't happening...its more of a jump to dx10..not the definitive dx10 AND dx9 solution.
Perkam
One ugly beast(that better perkam?)
But its the inside what counts.
Way too long
no I think that would fit with the 8800GX2 :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Holst
No HDMI 1.3???
...sorry..had to ask :D
Any idea what revision the pictures show? I read they had Rev. A00 in testing sometime over summer. Is this A01? Maybe even A02?
- lk
I still don't get how CPU's can be dropping in power and temperature while becoming faster yet GPU's can't boost the speed without sucking up more power and creating more heat. Hopefully this is just for DX10 gen 1 cards. maybe the 8900 will be cleaned up a bit. Is it so wrong to want the power without the, err, power?
CPU speeds have increased by what, 50% in the last 3 years? While in the same period gpu's have quadrupled in speed. Yet nVidia still managed to make the 7800gtx and fellows consume less power than the previous generation. I seem to be missing the part where gpu's can keep out with cpu's in power and performance progression.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkangyl
Yeah.. Plus GPU's are more powerful than processors...
~Mike
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flak Monkey
....I don't think so, maybe you should do some research.
looks very interesting hope I can get one of those before Christmas
________
Toyota 1/X history
If it is 200w then I bet k|ngP|n and Shamino are drooling because 200w will still not bother Ln2 or cascade respectively.
I think we can expect some very big 3dmark numbers in the next 2 months.
Regards
Andy
You got that right Andy....it's more than just the top benchers that are seeing the plus-side of thise.....I'm loving the news of these high-powered GPUs for just daily use and my dedicated GPU WC loop. Really puts a separation between stock and WC clocks and makes the investment more worth-while.
Of course, GPU Mousepots + LN2 aren't things to shy away from either with these :) ;)
Hopfully, this is just one of those 'test' coolers that they used. I want to see something kickass like the 7900GTX cooler design on this card. This current black cooler looks a bit too much (in terms of fan placement) like the X1950XTX with absolutely no style this time around.
And they better shorten this damn long card too. If they dont, i dont think it would fit very well in my case at all.
3 years ago the 3Ghz Northwood came out and now the fastest processor is the X6800 at 2.93Ghz. I would say a conroe is about 50% faster clock for clock than northwood maybe a bit more. In that same period we have gone from 9800XT-> X800XT -> X850XT -> X1800XT -> X1900XTX - X1950XTX. I would say that that is about a 4x progression in gpu speed. What am I missing here?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nanometer
Quote:
Originally Posted by menlatin
umm your post kind of proves his point, 2x the cpu performance but 4xgpu performance.
I think the reasoning is that gpu cycles and development has been much shorter. Nvidia and ATi have simply been tacking things on to older cores and getting alot more out of them. It is much easier to look at a gpu design and improve it as there is much more parrallelism in gpu's then cpu's. This is why clock speed on GPU's is not nearly as important as it is on CPU's.
lol I'm going to have to rma my 600watt seasonic just to run the gpu's. jesus
such a long card.. :d
Almost as long as my e-pen0r would be if I had that card:)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jochenp
its funny cause I thought computer parts were supposed to be getting smaller?
Not in a ricers-world.
Bigger = Better
Or so all those ricers say...
ricers?
~Mike
I've always heard that too-close-to-bigotry-for-comfort word associated with people of Asian decent...Quote:
Originally Posted by arisythila