** Xfx 7900gs & E6300 **

Bought this Card 2 Days ago @ 180e in Greece , and i Can Say one word.

:banana: impressed :banana:

So here we are .

The Card,

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/4627/xfxtv4.jpg

Temp stock hs

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/2...tockairoj6.jpg

The whole setup is .

E6300@3290 , Asus p5b Deluxe , 2X512 Kingston @ elpida , Enermax600W , 2Xhitachi 80gb Deskstar Raid-0 .

Stok Runs 7900gs@ 450-660[All test without LOD or something else tweak except maximum performance enabled from nv control panel ]

3dmark 01

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/7...irstockbv2.jpg

3dmark 03

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6...ckair03ly6.jpg

3dmark 05

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6...ckair05yq0.jpg

Next step @ setting randomly 535-700

3dmark 01 , 535-700

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/5...s535700ez5.jpg

3dmark 03 535-700

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/311...dm03airzr5.jpg

3dmark 05 535-700

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/1...rk05airgo9.jpg

Then i switch to WaterCool :D [watercool setup , eheim1250 , NeXXos xtreme240 , cpu block silverprop Cyclone , Vga block Asetek Dyo ]

I cover the smd's around the core to protect it from contacts with waterblock
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/7007/1pr5.jpg

The Card attached

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8540/2gs3.jpg

Card temps with water [i had applied 2 mutch ceramiq i reapllied and idle temps now are 40-41c]

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/3182/3cq9.jpg

And the Cake.... First boot --> autodetect optimal Frequencies from Nv Cpanel :holyBatman:

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/6985/batmanyn6.jpg

So Far Clocks with water artifact free @ no Lod or tweaks :D

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9053684

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2483/01fr9.jpg

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4972848

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/2553/03ou4.jpg

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2228572

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4247/05sr8.jpg

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=512961
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8013/06fy1.jpg

Still Searching 4 the core&mem limits

why did u cover the smd so it won't touch the water block ???

and very nice results

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Originally Posted by SaFrOuT

why did u cover the smd so it won't touch the water block ???

and very nice results

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To avoid the Card destroying :fact: ?

Thnx . I will run later higher freqs and some tweaks . :)

maybe i am not that smart but i can't figure out how it can destory the card

about the 7900GS, are u still able to get higher freq !!!!!!!!!

yea pretty sweet. With my X1800GTO oc'd and unlocked at 16p 700/700 and my e6400 at 3.2GHz I score 11230 in 3dmark05 but only 5400 in 3dmark06. I wonder if the extra video ram bandwidth is what pushes you 1000 points above me in 06

SaFrOuT@ Τhe distance between smd' and waterblock is very low , and the waterblock is a bit small so i taped around the core to avoid the block contact with the smd's [on a simple block mevement eg ]

@chron I dont know if mem's do the job only couse those two card's [x1800xl-7900gs] are totaly different core-pcb ect ect. [btw the 7900gs rams are hynix 1.4ns]

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/4168/dsc06066pn0.jpg

My excellent English owns day by day :hehe:

thanks for ur explanation and sorry for asking a lot :)

hope to see more O/Cing results

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7...a696825jc6.jpg

when u where at

Next step @ setting randomly 535-700

did you suffer from heat problems at that frequancy? and how hot did it get with the stock cooler?

nice man!!!
mine still using stock cooling at 610/800 24/7



Denny

Nice overclock!
To my surprise a 7300GT SLi setup is on par /slighlty faster than a 7900GS.
At least for benchmarking. Might be different with games, especially those that arent SLi optimised.

whow.. thats some crazy clocks man. no voltmod? you beat my 05 score by 1000 points. a great deal is thanks to that allendale but still.. impressive

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Originally Posted by Fr3ak

Nice overclock!
To my surprise a 7300GT SLi setup is on par /slighlty faster than a 7900GS.
At least for benchmarking. Might be different with games, especially those that arent SLi optimised.

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Hmm, not convinced.

My DX9 GT4 in 03 was 189fps with highly overclocked 7300GT but top score with 7900GS was 207fps with stock as far as I can tell. True the total score is about the same but we're running volt mods and bench specific values. 5 quads should beat 2 quads after all ....

Regards

Andy

I didnt look at specific numbers.
With untouched cards I got 15x fps in Aquamark at 3500Mhz.
3D Marks are better with the 7900GS, considering he is using a Allendale.
But I am quite impressed by the 7300GT setup, I thought the gap would be much bigger.
Keep in mind that he is watercooling his card. With the stock cooler scores are lower than what I got running at stock coolers. But again, its Allendale vs. Conroe, so it aint comparable.

Nonetheless the 7900Gs is a damn nice bang for the buck card and 2 of those cards are really,really fast for their money.

ataky@ I tested with stock cool , ~30minutes :D No heat problem at all.

guess2098 @ Thnx :D Maybe we can married eatch other card 2 run some sli :p

higgins@ No volt mod as i said , next step is some tweaks-pencil mods :D

thanx, 7900gs ordered :banana:
club3d, lets see what we can get out of that, no money for buying a vf900 yet :slapass:

good work

Single 7900GS
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9058106 :D

Nice score :D Cpu 4g allendale ? conroe ? Lod? ? Mods Thnx. I think its the time 2 push mine card :D

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Originally Posted by Athens[2004]

Nice score :D Cpu 4g allendale ? conroe ? Lod? ? Mods Thnx. I think its the time 2 push mine card :D

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Conroe E6700 - LOD +3 - no mod's.

I have also score with single moded card : >61k :D

Can you post detail picture of back side PCB, place about R508-511,
its place in 7900GT which can mod by conductive link,
what I little see this 7900GS have same

Bad quality foto - sory

This is mod for 1.4V. With my card mod to more V ( 1.5, 1.55, 1.7V ) is not working.

Vmem mod --> 7900GT pencil trick

poor Card , :D

almost like performance.
allendale @ 2,8.
Galaxy 7900GS 1,4ns with stock cooling. very very poor cards :( I can even risk that mems aren't ocing at all :(

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9063505
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4992690
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2251678
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=540598

LOD +3 no mods.

WTF ? sli ? :D @Niemiec

Some litle updates from me , no lod , no mod , chilled water cpu & vga .

http://img426.imageshack.us/img426/5854/01postyq8.jpg

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/3530/03postwu1.jpg

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4678/05ls6.jpg

http://img417.imageshack.us/img417/4462/06pz6.jpg

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/6544/aquacz1.jpg

http://img417.imageshack.us/img417/9515/single1fq0.jpg

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/57/single2lb1.jpg

Wow! You are really going ALL out, Athens!!!! :clap:

Thnx. I must mod the card's Vcore and run some lod 2 end this story :)

as I said ALMOST like performance :/ 600 for GPU is max and 760 for mems :/ next I can only see BSOD with nv4disp.dll :lol:

and it's SLI :(

Wow that looks kickass :)

I have a question for you Athens, I have a 805D @ 3.6GHZ on Air I have a MSI X1900XT and I get 18000 in 3dmark 2003. I'm thinking of getting a E6300 and clocking it to 3GHZ. I would get a bigger score in 3dmark with E6300 Correct?

Is this a good watercooler to start off with, I don't have lots of money atm but I want something easy to install.

http://www.pccasegear.com/prod2362.htm

Would this allow me to push my Chip to 4GHZ without throlling back because my Artic Freezer 7 pro can not perform properly at such high temps?

On 01-03 you will see a nice performance ,on 05-06 you will see also but not huge as 3dmark01 . As for the watercooling kit it''s an entry one . I suggest to start reading [make a search on xtremesystems eg watercooling kit'' ] so u can set up a custom one .

Some little updates with 6600@4000~4.050mhz

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=5050737

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/1286/03aa0.jpg

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9088469

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/6273/01nc9.jpg

Card unmoded :D

Wow nice clock on the card. Now lets se some wild vmem and vcore...

Bloody nice setup.

What week is the E6300 may I ask?

Dont know :P i sell it . Maybe if i had a pic at home we will find. But the cpu was 500X7 prime stable on water or good aircooling [maybe higher also but my mems max out at 500 @ 2.25vdimm]

I start searching for vgpu - vmems pencil mod but im a bit comfused. Can someone who has done this mod [ with pencil ] post 1-2 pics for vgpu and vmem ?

Thnx Tom .

If the card is still unmoded than those clocks are really awesome.:toast:
Here is what i did with Asus EN7900GS on DICE http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...2&postcount=14

Yep unmoded Max benchable 710-830 with water . Nice scores @Shark-357 :toast:

i think i ll do this.

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/1198/vgpumodqk6.jpg

For vgpu this mod, and for vmem simly pencil mod from 7900GT


:toast:

Post a pic please [vmem] :) .

Thnx Tom.

mh gone get myself some bison electro tommorow :p:

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Originally Posted by Athens[2004]

Post a pic please [vmem] :) .

Thnx Tom.

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This vgpu mod is not working on 7900GS, but vmem is ok :D 2.25V with pencil mod ;)

http://resources.vr-zone.com.sg/Sham...s/79gtvmod.jpg

Vmem done and working nicely :D
Gain 100mhz on rams [from 830~ -> 930~] vgpu left
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/4065/vmemzz4.jpg

Wery impressive. Have you done any vgpu mod?

I 've done once with a pencil but didnt work :( i think couse of the long distance between solds. I'll try later with a cable.

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Originally Posted by Athens[2004]

I 've done once with a pencil but didnt work :( i think couse of the long distance between solds. I'll try later with a cable.

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Pencil for vgpu ? Not good idea :p:

Solder cable an go, go :D

Ok:D

thnx. Tom

Nice o/c story man, good luck ;)

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Originally Posted by Athens[2004]

Ok:D

thnx. Tom

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Btw : when You beat my score :D


:toast:

And mem only 930 with vmem ? Poor card :p:

nice core you got there man :) i get with poor stock aircooling and vmod to 1.45V - 715mhz core and 900mhz memories..
will put the card on single stage phase change this week and we'll see the results... :)

Very nice scores @stingush especialy with single core a64. Post a pic of your vgpu .

Thnx Tom.

vgpu mod done!!1 finaly 1.48v under 3dmark 06 & 2.14vmem both full load.

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4387/dsc06227ua9.jpg

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8083/dsc06228co8.jpg

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6412/dsc06226rm5.jpg


Start searching card limits [cpu speed low ]

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9669/06in1.jpg

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=637960 .


So @DEVIL K-ce can u feel my breath or not yet :toast: :D

Thnx 4 the help Tom . :D

:toast:

At this rate you will be passed my SLI score with 7900GS :embarrassed:

I plan on doing some benching this weekend with the setup, it's still stock at the moment as they are supposed to be my gaming cards.

Regards

Andy

Thnx. This weekend is my weekend too :D


Tom

Good work :toast:


GPU clocked :slobber: I have only 745MHz at 1.45-1.47V and no more.
But my mem running on 2.25V with 980MHz ;)

Simply cable mod :banana:

Go clocking :devil:



btw : I in weekend start to play with 79GTX + dry ice. GTX moded of course ;)

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Originally Posted by Athens[2004]

vgpu mod done!!1 finaly 1.48v under 3dmark 06 & 2.14vmem both full load.

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More volts!

Whats the temp on gpu with 1,48v?

39~idle , 43-44 under atitool stress . watercooled , asetek dyo on vga , eheim 1250 & alphacool nexxos xtreme 240 [litle bigger than black ice xtreme 240]

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9090661

Not sure how much 2001 likes this new nvidia driver but I am getting lazy in my old age and cannot be bothered to change it :)

Single card is about 53k non moddied.

Regards

Andy

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http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9090661

Not sure how much 2001 likes this new nvidia driver but I am getting lazy in my old age and cannot be bothered to change it :)

Single card is about 53k non moddied.

Regards

Andy

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This is SLI setup :rolleyes:

If yes - You got nice score :toast:

I had a few runs today but i free too mutch gas from single stage and run discharged so cant hold cpu test's for 03-05-06 , so 01 only :) . [card on water]

http://img417.imageshack.us/img417/5343/0111vw7io1.jpg

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9091918 .

Any updates Athens?

Nope . 775-780core & 940-950mems is the max that card can do with water. With numbers ~60k 01 , 12~ 05 , ~27k 03 , 7-7.5~ @ 06 .
with some quick runs. So i need to freeze the card for better scores on 03-05-06 and when i have time i ll try to fit my single stage on gpu .

Have you disabled the overcurrent protection?

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Originally Posted by Athens[2004]

Nope . 775-780core & 940-950mems is the max that card can do with water. With numbers ~60k 01 , 12~ 05 , ~27k 03 , 7-7.5~ @ 06 .
with some quick runs. So i need to freeze the card for better scores on 03-05-06 and when i have time i ll try to fit my single stage on gpu .

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Sounds good, looking forward to seeing your results. I'll be putting mine under dry ice in a bit, just waiting to get the container done. I hope they dont have an early coldbug.:)

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Have you disabled the overcurrent protection?

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?? overcurrent protection ?? tell me more . :D

@ MTP04 , awaiting your result's to . good luck :toast:

Modded and tested my card last night

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m...79GS_63963.png

On air the card likes delta 40, on phase change the card likes best delta 0 or negativ delta. Somthing like -20 or so (about 235 in Nibitor).

Overcurrent protection mod
http://resources.vr-zone.com/Shamino/79mmod2.jpg

Havent done this mod myself, and my card run 840/860, but i think im going to up the volts to 1,7 and remove these two resistors. And maybe try with some dry ice. Then the card would really fly :D

?wtf? impresive . !!!! , i think i must combine tec for vga ang my single on my cpu for >60k on 01 .

You can run 05 and 03 without the CPU tests. Just hit esc

Nice clocks there Aspstein!

What vgpu did you need to get those clocks? Also was that on air or phase?

Now lets not steel Athens thread here....

I used 1,5V and phase, tried to do the 1,7vgpu mod tonight, but that doesnt work. 1,6vgpu works, and I will give it a go as soon as i can get some dice. Then maybe wee would see some 900 core action.

No mod on the mem yet either...

Im surprised you guys havent tried unlocking your cards yet :p: My BFG 7900GS OC has unlocked to 24x8 as another BFG 7900GS user on tech powerup. http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6...ckedym0.th.jpg


Not Bad at all :fact: :banana: This card even came with a $40 rebate :D

ill tried mine :( nothing. [except if i doing something wrong..]

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6471/untitledlg5.jpg

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Originally Posted by Inteleron

Im surprised you guys havent tried unlocking your cards yet :p:

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Maybe we have not got the BFG ? :p: Nice to know though :toast: Maybe this is a real sleeper :)



Regards

Andy

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Maybe we have not got the BFG ? :p: Nice to know though :toast: Maybe this is a real sleeper :)

Regards

Andy

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Could be but I've seen the BFG's and they look identical to my Asus 7900gs and I think XFX's are the same. Could it be a bios limit that the BFG's dont have??

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Originally Posted by Athens[2004]

ill tried mine :( nothing. [except if i doing something wrong..]

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6471/untitledlg5.jpg

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Thats is rite man. Now click o.k, o.k and it will ask you to restart. After restart it will show 24x8 pipes in rivatuner. Then go and test it. I think the 7900GS are just leftover 7900GT's that needed to be pushed out the door, so they mask 4 pipes and a vertex unit and lower the prices to push them as G80 becomes popular. Why would they go through the extra work which = $$$ to laser cut the pipes? Just software mask them and the average noob should be content rite?

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Thats is rite man. Now click o.k, o.k and it will ask you to restart. After restart it will show 24x8 pipes in rivatuner. Then go and test it. I think the 7900GS are just leftover 7900GT's that needed to be pushed out the door, so they mask 4 pipes and a vertex unit and lower the prices to push them as G80 becomes popular. Why would they go through the extra work which = $$$ to laser cut the pipes? Just software mask them and the average noob should be content rite?

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Does not work for my Galaxy I am afraid. I tried it before with earlier rivatuner and no joy with this one....

Regards
Andy

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Originally Posted by zakelwe

Does not work for my Galaxy I am afraid. I tried it before with earlier rivatuner and no joy with this one....

Regards
Andy

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Same with my eVGA. :(

Guys I have some bad news:( and some good news:) . The bad news first. After failing to do the soft mod to unlock the extra pipes, I though it was merely a bios issue and tried flashing my Asus 7900gs with the BFG 7900gs bios. Well it froze halfway through flashing and once I restarted of course I got no picture:( I wonder If I can get it RMA'D??

Now the good news is that once I fubard my card I went out to get a BFG 7900gs oc to see what the hype is all about. Got home, put her in, loaded windows and tried the soft mod pretty much right away and what do you know..it worked...so I'm here scratching my head wondering if it's a bios or software issue at all. After a few minutes I decided to replace the stock hsf with my moded cpu hsf and start testing the card out. Once I cleaned the goop off the core guess what I saw...the card is using a GT core.:D So BFG simply use GT cores and disable the pipes with a soft mod.

Here is proof for the non believers,

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/966...0220xj8.th.jpg

MTP04 thank you for proving my hypothesis rite. So far thats 3 for 3 BFG 7900GS unlocks iv seen. This card is great, it even comes with a $40 rebate which im mailing out tomm, The cheapest of the 7900GS's.

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Originally Posted by Inteleron

MTP04 thank you for proving my hypothesis rite. So far thats 3 for 3 BFG 7900GS unlocks iv seen. This card is great, it even comes with a $40 rebate which im mailing out tomm, The cheapest of the 7900GS's.

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Yeah I got the rebate as well.:D

I would like to say sorry to Athens[2004] though for crapping in his thread.

Nice find and congrats on the "luck" to get the BFG, that's certainly a very good card for the money now. :toast:

I wonder if any other manufacturers are doing similar ?

Regards
Andy

So . Thats all folks :D . Let's go clocking again our twenty pipelines :hehe:

I might take a look at a BFG 7900GS tomorrow at my work (UK computer component reseller). Are the unlock able ones from a specific batch IE is there anything I could lookout for on the box, or do I have to look at the Core?

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I might take a look at a BFG 7900GS tomorrow at my work (UK computer component reseller). Are the unlock able ones from a specific batch IE is there anything I could lookout for on the box, or do I have to look at the Core?

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Not much I can tell you, the box is pretty clear of stickers. I can tell you that its the BFG 7900GS OC. You just have to take the chance and see.:)

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Not much I can tell you, the box is pretty clear of stickers. I can tell you that its the BFG 7900GS OC. You just have to take the chance and see.:)

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Yah buy the one with the rebate :P It should have a blue pcb.

Tired on my Xfx 7900GS, and it doesnt work.

i tried on my xfx 7900gs but no extra pipe lines were unlocked. this is the card i have, different than reference pcb. will i be able to vmod this ?
http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggIma...150-208-03.JPG

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Originally Posted by Athens[2004]

Yep unmoded Max benchable 710-830 with water . Nice scores @Shark-357 :toast:

i think i ll do this.

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/1198/vgpumodqk6.jpg

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Hello everybody. On this mod, for giving 1.5V to GPU, do i have to short both 1.4 and 1.3 points to ground? I mean 1.3+1.4=1.5 ? Thanks.

Like in this link ?

http://endeavorquest.net:8880/7900GT_VM/index.htm

but the real question is,

can the GT cores overclock as well as the GS cores?

there was a guy who took down tons of GT records with a GS because the GS cores overclock much better.

so would a deffective GT core even overclock that well?

i should really try to push my GS these days.

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Originally Posted by WeStSiDePLaYa

but the real question is,

can the GT cores overclock as well as the GS cores?

there was a guy who took down tons of GT records with a GS because the GS cores overclock much better.

so would a deffective GT core even overclock that well?

i should really try to push my GS these days.

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Just in the middle of testing a pair of GT cored BFG GS cards.:D

Will post some results tonight.

LOL this is beating my 7950GX2 in 01 :(

Im all stock cooled though, im also 10k in 06 though :)

Just flashed my GS to a GT, noticed no affect on stable clock speeds. Picked up around 600 points in 06.

damned impressive clocks man. I'm only able to acheive 700 core on 1.5v and 720 on 1.55v. Ram I can get to 880 with 2.25v, but my graphite keeps seeming to wear off, and after some time, I'm down to 2.2 volts and only able to do 860. Then after some more time, it fades more into the 2.1's and I'm down to 840. Still can't complain though :) Broke 10k in 05 and am not ram limited anyway. Should have gone with bfg. Well done!!

My core is at 1.4v and the Ram is stock. Just scored 11100 in 05 at 670/880.

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damned impressive clocks man. I'm only able to acheive 700 core on 1.5v and 720 on 1.55v. Ram I can get to 880 with 2.25v, but my graphite keeps seeming to wear off, and after some time, I'm down to 2.2 volts and only able to do 860. Then after some more time, it fades more into the 2.1's and I'm down to 840. Still can't complain though :) Broke 10k in 05 and am not ram limited anyway. Should have gone with bfg. Well done!!

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Thnx man :D . Xfx done her miracle again . -

you are lucky you got such a high quality 7900