The Best ever DDRII from Team Group Xtreem

Now, what are you waiting for the true powerful DDRII?...
SO let me tell you this...
This is gonna be the first one to strike truly DDRII 800, 3-3-3-8
2x 1gb DDRII,Micron D9 GMH IC,


This is high bin of high bin MT D9GMH


**Please note: For the sticker showing 3-4-3-8 is because the sticker is not finished while I done for this Stability test;
For the full retail version, it should be correct spec.



retail package:

http://www.bestoverclocking.com/onep...gx2800c301.jpg

http://www.bestoverclocking.com/onep...gx2800c302.jpg

http://www.bestoverclocking.com/onep...gx2800c303.jpg

Testbed:
CPU: E6600 ES B1 S5 1.5v
Mobo: Asus P5WDG2 WS Pro, bios 0004
OS windows 2003 Original
Power: PC P&C 1kw
HD WD Raptor 10k rpm 150g x1

show the vidmm from the meter all set vdimm @ 2.25~2.28v
In the middle of benching:
http://www.bestoverclocking.com/onep...x2800c3p01.jpg

http://www.bestoverclocking.com/onep...r1000vdimm.jpg

http://www.bestoverclocking.com/onep...x2800c3p03.jpg

DDR800 starting
I: DDR 800, 3-3-3-8, dual prime Large FFT after 3 more hours

http://www.bestoverclocking.com/onep...r800pr3hrs.jpg

6 plus hours:

http://www.bestoverclocking.com/onep...r800pr6hrs.jpg

7more hours for completely 2 runs

http://www.bestoverclocking.com/onep...7h8mddr800.jpg

http://www.bestoverclocking.com/onep...lessdp7h9m.jpg


DDR 800 3-3-3-8 done, now reboot and set proper divider for ddr1000 4-4-3 and go sleep:D

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DDR1000, 4-4-3

testing:

I: DDR 1000 4-4-3-4, dual prime Large FFT running after 6 hours

http://www.bestoverclocking.com/onep...0v227t6hrs.jpg

7 hours

http://www.bestoverclocking.com/onep...36mddr1000.jpg

http://www.bestoverclocking.com/onep...essdp7h36m.jpg

ok...how about some extra super pi 32m ?

http://www.bestoverclocking.com/onep...264450p32m.jpg

505mhz not enough?:D let 's add more

http://www.bestoverclocking.com/onep...32mddr1040.jpg

DDR 1000 4-4-3-4 all done

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so what do you feel ?:D

(All contents are provided and authorized by OPB - 9/11/06)

Wow nice ram:toast:
Where to get it? And when?

what voltage is 521 at?

yes, where and when please!

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Originally Posted by Dumo

Wow nice ram:toast:
Where to get it? And when?

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and how much :)

That is some very nice DDR2:slobber: , do they come without heatspreaders?

This most cost an arm and a leg...:eek:

DAMN! What a pair of sticks...

Want it. Right now. ;D

Same question... what voltage at 521? Thats really insane...

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Originally Posted by Revv23

what voltage is 521 at?

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It shows on teh meter, it's always 2.25 ~2.27v

Thanks for your questions.

BR

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That is some very nice DDR2:slobber: , do they come without heatspreaders?

This most cost an arm and a leg...:eek:

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RAM better not have Heatsink. Heatsink is onl a "eyecandy".
But, we all include HS when we sell our kits.

Thanks for your q.
BR

When and how much?

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Originally Posted by TeamUSOffice

It shows on teh meter, it's always 2.25 ~2.27v

Thanks for your questions.

BR

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wow holy crap some nice stuff

i'd bet $300+ maybe 400

As soon as I get pricing/availability information from Team, I'll let you all know :)

Please stock this stuff asap. Can't wait to pick up a pair.

Verry nice stuff here fellas, wish Ida got in on this :P

I still love my 667 though there doin 920 @ 2.1 / 4-4-3-9 so I cant complain

As always nice work Teamusoffice and OPB san

Great work TeamGroup... that is -awesome-. I admire the low voltage requirement! :toast:

wow, love the naked sticks

Great set.
Guys please don`t be too excited:

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This is high bin of high bin MT D9GMH

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You know who sad that ;)

wow amazing these will be my next kits!

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Originally Posted by Cooper

Great set.
Guys please don`t be too excited:



You know who sad that ;)

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I think he's trying to say that these new retail kits will have the highest binned micron chips. The rest will go into the "not so best from Teamgroup" kits.

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Great set.
Guys please don`t be too excited:



You know who sad that ;)

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Yes so Sir, you just misunderstood it,
that means all of this products are all in THAT condition.
Hope clear a little bit:)

wow low voltage requirements.. :D hope its not so expensive.. ;)

I see :)

So now Team will add another competitor to PC2-6400 CL3 field.
How long till PC2-8000 CL4 ?

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When and how much?

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AFAIK they should be available very soon; i don't know how is the pricing where you live, but as a general idea they're ~10% cheaper than Corsair's similar stuff.

Kevin give it some more vdimm let's see these scream at 2.8v with 4-4-3-x timings :D

I've been doing this all along with Xtreem DDR2-667?! :confused:

Hmm I havent ever tried above the stock 2.1 on mine and there just max for this mobo :(
FSB wall is at 462 so I run em @ 460 just to make em happy and cool running, mine are also Neked :p

So seccy

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Hmm I havent ever tried above the stock 2.1 on mine and there just max for this mobo :(
FSB wall is at 462 so I run em @ 460 just to make em happy and cool running, mine are also Neked :p

So seccy

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Sweet! My 667 3-3-3-8 can do atleast the same 3-3-3-8 800 @ 2.3v. Though im running a DFI Infinity so i cant go much over 500.

I know there is potential to go a lot higher because the comp craps out @ 379 CPU fsb and that means ~520 DDR. With any divider i use the cpu fsb can´t go higher than 378.

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Originally Posted by lopri

I've been doing this all along with Xtreem DDR2-667?! :confused:

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at 2.25v with a 2x1gb kit? ;)

any idea of when these will be out?

I was hoping for D9GKX when I read the title :p:

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Originally Posted by ozzimark

at 2.25v with a 2x1gb kit? ;)

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Correct.:)
And btw, with DDR2 there is nog difference between 2x512Mb and 2x1Gb. Most 512Mb modules are singled sided, while the 1Gb module is just a double sided version.

In my opinion all Team Xtreem is definitaly worth buying, all kits (no matter which) perform extremly great.
The advantage of a kit like this one is that you can be sure of what you'll get.

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I was hoping for D9GKX when I read the title :p:

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I'm sure eventually they will get those ICs. But for DDR 800 (which I am looking for with FSB 400 OC) these would be nice.

Hopefully the price is good.

So TeamUSoffice, are the 3-3-3-8 533MHz sets just low binned D9 MGH?

I just received my 4-4-4-10 DDR2-800 kit, I believe they are D9 GMH also...

A bit reluctant to tear the heatspreaders off just yet

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Originally Posted by SMa

And btw, with DDR2 there is nog difference between 2x512Mb and 2x1Gb. Most 512Mb modules are singled sided, while the 1Gb module is just a double sided version.

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yup, though i suspect there may be something similar to what happened to BH-5 going on.. single sided sticks tend to oc better on average :toast:

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I was hoping for D9GKX when I read the title :p:

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I think its a good thing, GMH and GKX are the exact same chip with different binning, and GMH costs a whole lot less. So xtreem with this high bin GMH might be able to offer it for a fair price while guranteeing performance on par with GKX.

D9gmh Ftw!

I'm not certain about their binning practices though:

A few weeks ago I did the whole 939-> conroe upgrade.

My TG Xtreem 667 3-3-3-8 runs 4-4-4-11 at DDR2-1004 stable (can't get much higher even at 5-5-5-16).

I just got some Xtreem 800 4-4-4-10 which won't run at DDR2-1000 it BSOD's at 4-4-4-10 and still occasionally randomly reboots at 5-5-5-16!

Both sets were D9GMH!

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Originally Posted by ozzimark

yup, though i suspect there may be something similar to what happened to BH-5 going on.. single sided sticks tend to oc better on average :toast:

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All 4gb of my 1gb modules clock better than the 512*2 pair I had :)

I corrupted c:\windows\system32\config\system just by using the 512*2s at the same speed as my 4gb! LOL!

Afireinside has tested 6*512 now, and his results really are not better than anyone else with decent 2gb kits and the same voltage.

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Originally Posted by Phosphate

I'm sure eventually they will get those ICs. But for DDR 800 (which I am looking for with FSB 400 OC) these would be nice.

Hopefully the price is good.

So TeamUSoffice, are the 3-3-3-8 533MHz sets just low binned D9 MGH?

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3-3-3-8 533MHz is NOT D9GMH..It's D9GCT

OPB

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Originally Posted by dinos22

Kevin give it some more vdimm let's see these scream at 2.8v with 4-4-3-x timings :D

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OT
you can be serious takeing it to 2.8v for ddr2. but you really want to kill these sticks so fast that is an extra volt not just a little extra but a whole lota extra juice so 2.5 is where i would stop upping the volts.

getting back On Topic
Team Group's ram really looks nice even with out the eye candy...all the other manufactures have them. Were just so used to seeing them that we ask that question.
The TG ram is getting really good timeings and especially for ddr2.. hell i have ddr400 that only does 3-4-4-8.
will we also have a follow up ram done by OPB like a signature series.
or l337 version of the ram
Also are any places offering pre order.

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Originally Posted by TeamUSOffice

3-3-3-8 533MHz is NOT D9GMH..It's D9GCT

OPB

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Still the same die altough D9GCT is worse than D9GMH

Passed 2 hours orthos large FFTs 800 3-3-3-8... still going on strong :D Im a happy camper. :) Maybe i have one set of these "golden" sticks.

Oh yeah i can do 4-4-3-8 atleast to that 1040 when my mobo/cpu craps out.(no orthos though because i couldn´t stable the rest of the system @ those speeds with this DFI. Only superpi1M for quick benching.)

my 2gig 667 3-4-4-8 also run 400 3-3-3-8 2.25v-2.3 and 1050 4-4-3-4
I'll try those sticks when they are in stock at Tankguys :)

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OT
you can be serious takeing it to 2.8v for ddr2. but you really want to kill these sticks so fast that is an extra volt not just a little extra but a whole lota extra juice so 2.5 is where i would stop upping the volts.
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well you don't run 24/7 with that much vdimm lol.....i'm talking max bench clocks which is what people do here.....actually 2.8 is conservative lol

Pricing for this memory will likely be in the ~$385 +/- $10. From what I'm hearing, it should be well worth it ;)

edit: damn good deal for what they are then. aren't other ddr2-800 cas3 2x1gb kits around... $450? time to check :D

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Originally Posted by dinos22

well you don't run 24/7 with that much vdimm lol.....i'm talking max bench clocks which is what people do here.....actually 2.8 is conservative lol

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i'll say. plus, i'm been running my team 2x512mb D9GMH sticks at ~2.6-2.8v.. basically since i got them?

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Originally Posted by ozzimark

i'll say. plus, i'm been running my team 2x512mb D9GMH sticks at ~2.6-2.8v.. basically since i got them?

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exactly :D

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exactly :D

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I want a pair too!!...
Hee... :D

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Originally Posted by Mr_Slinky

OT

Also are any places offering pre order.

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Perhaps you can PM TankGuys for details. I always keep them updated on pricing and ETA of TEAM XTREEM products.

WOW Best News FROM TEAMGROUP!.....

my 667 run 2.25 400 3.3.3.8 and 2.40v 430 3.3.3.8 with p5bdlx
4.4.4.10 2.4v 560 4.4.4.10.

New Best Choice from TeamGroup

GiGi77Italy
:)

Looks like another great product of Team Xtreme. Too bad they are very hard to find in Europe. The few shops that have them, sell them way too overpriced :/

yup nice product.. but very hard to find.. *sigh*

If you guys want, I can run pre-orders. I am not a big fan of them though, they tend to be a real headache, but if it's what you guys want, I'll do it for you. If enough people are interested, I'll get them listed.

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Originally Posted by TankGuys

If you guys want, I can run pre-orders. I am not a big fan of them though, they tend to be a real headache, but if it's what you guys want, I'll do it for you. If enough people are interested, I'll get them listed.

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I am in for a pre-order. can I be number 1:)

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Looks like another great product of Team Xtreme. Too bad they are very hard to find in Europe. The few shops that have them, sell them way too overpriced :/

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http://www.memory-configurator.com/ (search for "Team")
Prices are ok, shipping is really cheap and fast.

Yay.. i really am one of the lucky ones to have atleast almost same chips on my teamgroup http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?i...8003338hc1.jpg

24h orthos Large FFTs 800mhz 3-3-3-8:D

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Originally Posted by ozzimark

at 2.25v with a 2x1gb kit? ;)

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Yes. It was indeed 2.2V. But I was testing RAM only with E6300, via dividers. In other words, @266FSB using 2:3 (FSB:Memory) divider. @400FSB, it required 2.3V for 3-3-3.

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Originally Posted by lopri

Yes. It was indeed 2.2V. But I was testing RAM only with E6300, via dividers. In other words, @266FSB using 2:3 (FSB:Memory) divider. @400FSB, it required 2.3V for 3-3-3.

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very impressive :D

i should start messing around with 3-3-3 soon. been spending all my time at 4-4-3 and 5-5-4 :p:

They are listed on the site now, up for pre-order. They may keep disappearing though - each time someone orders, it's going to deactivate the item... so please be patient if you can't find it, I'll keep checking and turning it back on.


Oh, but before anyone asks, I don't have an ETA yet - waiting for more info from Team :)

I just ordered the ddr2-667 version team group ram, are there any incompatibility with the gigabyte dq6 board? I haven't bought the mobo yet, but i am seriously considering it.

Thanks

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Yes. It was indeed 2.2V. But I was testing RAM only with E6300, via dividers. In other words, @266FSB using 2:3 (FSB:Memory) divider. @400FSB, it required 2.3V for 3-3-3.

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yeah my HZ sticks can do even 410 but who cares.....real performance is in superhigh MHz with 4-4-4-x or 4-4-3-x :)

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Originally Posted by TankGuys

They are listed on the site now, up for pre-order. They may keep disappearing though - each time someone orders, it's going to deactivate the item... so please be patient if you can't find it, I'll keep checking and turning it back on.

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Linked for the lazy.

Shouldn't the voltage be listed at 2.25 - 2.3v?

Well, looks like OPB have some fun with newer toy (asus p5w64 ws pro and 1950xtx) ddr 890 3-4-3 with 2.35v, not bada!:toast:

quote from OCXtreme.org:

well , dumo say it all;
so I won't waste you guys time to see all those BS, let's see the quick test

445 out of box with 9x multi. on the x6800
can do 475, but I just don't like 8x...too easy...
CPUZ 136...buggy...FRANCK,,you gotta work this out..

http://www.bestoverclocking.com/onep...45fsbp5w64.jpg

http://www.bestoverclocking.com/onep...5w64ddr890.jpg

how about a quick test on 3d01 1950xtx single card? (CPU under SS)

http://www.bestoverclocking.com/onep...01b1950xtx.jpg

Damn! Very nice sticks, I'm loving my 667 kit and don't feel like trading it for a little increase. Got my kit running @ 982mhz 4-4-3-6 :banana: with 2.25v.

Will this run on the AW9D MAX ? Anyone have one and this ram?
Thanks

I have one and this ram, unfortunatly I am have issues hiting the rated speed ddr2800 3-3-3-8 and am waiting for Tankguys to get back to me. i will post an update when I get one.

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I have one and this ram, unfortunatly I am have issues hiting the rated speed ddr2800 3-3-3-8 and am waiting for Tankguys to get back to me. i will post an update when I get one.

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Thanks Bootsy.

Wow, that's impressive.

Making some good headway as far as DDR2 speeds & timings :cool:

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Thanks Bootsy.

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Well Tankguys has been great and even emailed Teamgroup on my behalf, but team has been blowing me off for 3 days so I am sending these back!! It's too bad my first experience with Team had to be a bad one.:mad:

I got these sticks... and so far it's dissapointing.
I booted up w/ SPD settings and checked Memset. The SPD timings are 5-6-6-18.. WTF?!
When I changed it to 3-3-3-8, the computer would crash...
I booted w/ 3-3-3-8 and Prime would fail withing a few seconds.

Orthos just failed 3-3-3-8 @ 2.3v...
This is bull... I'm pissed off. I don't like to RMA because it takes away from my computer time... but I'm going to have to if this doesn't get sorted out somehow...

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Orthos just failed 3-3-3-8 @ 2.3v...
This is bull... I'm pissed off. I don't like to RMA because it takes away from my computer time... but I'm going to have to if this doesn't get sorted out somehow...

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Been there, done that!!! Ben from Tankguys was great about the whole RMA\refund!! Team Group never replied to any of my comunications or post here dont even waste your time trying to get any Customer service from them.:mad:

I wonder if Tankguys can get any of that cellshock?

It runs OK now w/ a fan over the sticks... Still BS though. RAM shouldn't require active cooling to run at stock settings...

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It runs OK now w/ a fan over the sticks... Still BS though. RAM shouldn't require active cooling to run at stock settings...

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while i'd be inclined to agree with you, how hot are the sticks without a fan? keep in mind that 2.3v is 0.5v over stock ddr2 voltage. of course it's gonna get hot and need cooling. :D

btw, what secondary timings are you running? screenshots are always nice

I don't have a temperature thing, but it was hot to the touch. The sticks are rated at 2.2-2.35. They felt hot even on 2.2v.
I'm at work right now. I'll get SS when I get home. I think everything is set on auto. I just change the basics to 3-3-3-8.
Now I need to find replacement sticks and shoot TankGuys an email on Monday.

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I don't have a temperature thing, but it was hot to the touch. The sticks are rated at 2.2-2.35. They felt hot even on 2.2v.

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yeah, most of my micron starts getting pretty warm around 2.1-2.2v without a fan...
i tend to think of it this way. you're overclocking right? one of your goals is undoubtably to keep temps as low as possible, right? nobody in their right mind would run a cpu so that it is hot to the touch, why the ram? :toast:

ps, you're vudoo from [H]? nice to see you again bro. ;)

That's true, but memory shouldn't require active cooling to run at stock specs and voltage.
Yup, same vudoo from [H] LOL. What's up. :toast:

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Originally Posted by vudoodoodoo

That's true, but memory shouldn't require active cooling to run at stock specs and voltage.
Yup, same vudoo from [H] LOL. What's up. :toast:

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it really depends on the environment in your case i guess, but you have a point :D
(cf)Eclipse here :p:

Hey peeps... any more recent comments on this RAM?

i grabbed a set a couple weeks ago, OC'ing report in sig...still bangin RAM ;)

Anyone have pictures of how they actively cool their chips? I curious of how they tie a 120mm fan onto their motherboard. thanks.

6400 C3 results with 975x

2.25V

[IMG]http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/4...r800zx0.th.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/108...r800rg8.th.png[/IMG]

2.8V

[IMG]http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/1...r900cq6.th.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/8...3331dm5.th.png[/IMG]

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Anyone have pictures of how they actively cool their chips? I curious of how they tie a 120mm fan onto their motherboard. thanks.

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You can epoxy two 50mm fans together like this and then hold them down with rubber bands (60mm fans are a better fit):

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/8046/pict0003qa7.jpg

Ive got almost the same set up with 60mm fans except i made a spacer out of delrin so the fans wouldnt sit directly against the memory. Also i ziptied the fans together front and back instead of epoxy.

Worked very well on my 3700EB and team xtreem chronus -5bf. Hope'n it works just as well with my crucials that are on order.

Are you all still having problems with this memory running at claimed speeds without active cooling? What about the Cell Shock memory? Thanks

Lala boy, are your results really that bad? The set of 6400C3s I have seem to do about that a ton less voltage.

I am not the most impressed person on earth with Team's RMA, but It is my own fault for putting off filling out that stupid form...

95% of the time I had to RMA to mushkin, I was on a first name basis with them and they really did go out of the way to make sure that I was happy.To be fair, they did send me a pair of BH-5 back in the day with parts FALLING OFF the PCB, but other than that and trying to give me hynix/Tccx for my 400$ BH-5 I was happy.