E6600 on Vapochill LS

First off I would like to thank Gautam and Ross for helping me out with some pre-phase information.

This is the first time I turned on my computer with the Vapochill. Less than stock voltage (i marked 1.3 in the bios and I am seeing 1.29 volts.

3.6 Ghz - And I havent even tried to clock it yet.

Evap Temps = -52*idle -45*C load

http://www.strippoli.com/phase/phase1.JPG

HERE IS A SCREENSHOT OF MY LATEST CLOCK: 4.0 Ghz @ 1.5 vcore:

Evap Temps = -44*C idle -39*C load

http://www.strippoli.com/phase/4ghz.JPG

Now to the current issue at hand. Any help would be appreciated:

Cold bug on startup. Guys, I have noticed something new with my vapochill. 4.2 ghz booted fine initially but for a while it stopped booting. I thought it was the memory so I ended up testing strictly the gskills.

These sticks are great, 100% stability @ DDR2-1066...

My next idea was to let the Vapochill unit cool down to around -5*C and try and boot. Well, after I did this it magically booted up. Now comes the questions:

Do these chips have cold boot issues? Do you have to be within a certain temperature to bootup on phase?

Regards,
Dom

UPDATE*
OK,
Finally got it to start running right again. :)
Raised NB to 1.65 volts, disabled TM2, and raised vcore to 1.700 suicide. :mad:

I am currently browsing windows and benching @ 4200 mhz... :drool:

http://www.strippoli.com/4200mhz.JPG

*Latest Update*
Hit just around 4.3 ghz @ 1.62 vcore (evap temps -45*C idle, -39*C load)

All I did was re-apply some thermal paste and reseat the clamshell for a firmer fit. I AM ALSO ON A COMPLETELY SEPERATE PSU FOR THE FIRST TIME. This may be a big factor in my current stability.
11.9 second superpi 1m ... :drool:

http://www.strippoli.com/phase/4300.JPG

Here is some more updates for tonight. I found a 100% stable 24/7 clockspeed 4.14 ghz.. It is completely stable from benchmarking to gaming. I think I found my 24/7 setup fellas. I definitely need more vcore before I can do a 4.8 ghz suicide run. There is just not enough voltage.

I beat my personal 3dmark record. 13,467 marks in 3dm05. :beer:
This is with the stock x1900 xt, stock clock/mem speeds.
The processor is @ 4.14 ghz and the ram is at DDR2-920

http://strippoli.com/phase/3dmarkphase.JPG

UPDATE FOR 10:53 PM on Thursday Night:

I am continuing to suicide run the SHAT out of her.
4.32 ghz @ 1.62 vcore. New superpi1m record for me:

http://www.strippoli.com/phase/4320mhz.JPG

UPDATE FELLAS. I must say I am extremely pleases with this little 6600. Almost 4.4Ghz @ 1.62vcore.

Just installed a new thermalright HR chipset cooler and it turns out that my Northbridge has been holding me back BIG TIME!
New Superpi1m Record for me:

http://strippoli.com/phase/4374.JPG

*UPDATE* 9/27/06

In preparation for a single stage Vapo LS upgrade and LN2 the Board is finished and just got some vmods:
Vcore, Vdroop, and VMCH:

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1...tmod002yk2.jpg

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/5...tmod001pr4.jpg


PS- My Vapo LS has been received by Jinu117 and is currently being beefed up so the primary bench rig is out of commission until I get my Vapo back. I am pumped to say the least. :beer:

Jinu is hooking up the Vapo with some extra spice. :banana:

You know you can up the vcore past 1.6 and that Vapo won't even have a problem supplying the cooling capacity. Lets see some 4.3ghz PI runs :). Nice clocks Dom.

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Originally Posted by EZClock

You know you can up the vcore past 1.6 and that Vapo won't even have a problem supplying the cooling capacity. Lets see some 4.3ghz PI runs :). Nice clocks Dom.

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Thanks for the props man. Believe me, I am looking for 90% to 100% overclock but I would be very happy with 4.4 ghz.. :D

However, I am having issues right now. Over 4 ghz, the mobo will only allow me to boot at 10*C and below. Anything over 10* on startup and it goes right to the Asus "overclocking failed" notification. This is essentially the only problem of the night otherwise I would be way into the 4's now..

Wow now I'm considering a Vapochill. Great clocks btw.

UPDATE**
OK,
Finally got it to start running right again. :)
Raised NB to 1.65 volts, disabled TM2, and raised vcore to 1.700 suicide. (note: the p5b undervolts by .08 volts) :mad:

I am currently browsing windows and benching @ 4200 mhz... :drool:

http://www.strippoli.com/4200mhz.JPG

Please tell me the Temps in Bios when you set 1.7 Volt !!!


Regards

SPLMANN

hi m8 nice clocks and pi . but give us some more info dude all screens but no real info . like batch , mobo , ram .....

Héhé , I put also 1.7v on my 6600 (es) But on AIR :)

What mobo are you using?
nice results.

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Originally Posted by Extera

What mobo are you using?
nice results.

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Yes i am intrested what mobo you got to Couldnt get my P5WDH anywhere near that. Its in the vmod shop as we speak :)

Maybe Bad Axe? :D :D :D or DS4 for sure... :)

Sorry for the lack of information guys:

Asus P5B-Deluxe Mobo (no mods)
Conroe E6600 boxed retail processor "B2"
GSkill HZ DDR2-800 2 gig

CPU temps at 1.7volts = -25.5*C bios listed.
Evaporator temps at 1.7 volts = -41*C vapo listed.

I guess its time to update my sig? lol

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Originally Posted by dominick32

(note: the p5b undervolts by .08 volts) :mad:]

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Seems to be ASUS P5B

Sorry to late!

New issue has arisen:

The computer just reboots itself on the xp desktop after 5 minutes or so. Seeing that I tested my gskills to over DDR2-1066 @ 4-4-4-10, I am narrowing it down to a few things, hopefully with your help I can figure this out:

1. Southbridge Voltage
2. Actual Vcore being undervolted and supplying enough voltage. 1.7 in bios reads 1.62 actual.
3. Maybe I need to buy a second power supply to continuously feed strong power to the vapo? (I am using an x1900xt and conroe @ 4ghz, so that wattage may not be strong enough on the 12 volt.)

Any help would be appreciated?

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Originally Posted by dominick32

Sorry for the lack of information guys:

Asus P5B-Deluxe Mobo (no mods)
Conroe E6600 boxed retail processor "B2"
GSkill HZ DDR2-800 2 gig

CPU temps at 1.7volts = -25.5*C bios listed.
Evaporator temps at 1.7 volts = -41*C vapo listed.

I guess its time to update my sig? lol

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Asus P5B NO MODS???!|!!????!!!! :eek: Nice mobo! :D

I also have the Asus P5b Dlx Wifi E6600@4195Mhz on Single Stage

http://s2.bilder-hosting.de/img/A0GAG.jpg


Regards

SPLMANN

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Originally Posted by splmann

I also have the Asus P5b Dlx Wifi E6600@4195Mhz on Single Stage


Regards

SPLMANN

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Thanks for your results.
What vcore are you running and what are your NB/SB voltages?

Also, do you have any mods done.

Thanks.

Vcore 1.7 Volt
NB/SB at Maximum

No Mods at the Moment


look on the FSB !!

http://s2.bilder-hosting.de/img/A0YNV.jpg



Regards

SPLMANN

and you run the memory 1:1?! wow, congrats on that oc :D

nice , hopefull will the P5B the non-deluxe do the same , report in tomorw

Thanks !!!

Yhee my Mushkins Redline works perfect with the Asus P5b Dlx Wifi

Regards

SPLMANN

*Latest Update*
Hit just around 4.3 ghz @ 1.62 vcore (evap temps -45*C idle, -39*C load)

All I did was re-apply some thermal paste and reseat the clamshell for a firmer fit. I AM ALSO ON A COMPLETELY SEPERATE PSU FOR THE FIRST TIME. This may be a big factor in my current stability.
11.9 second superpi 1m ... :drool:

http://www.strippoli.com/phase/4300.JPG

awsome!!that IS a great bang for the buck;)

What is your rock stable overclock? Great results you have there!!!!
I have a Vapo as well but I can not stand the heat in my room @4ghz using 1.5875 Vcore for 24/7 use

Thanks for the response guys:
Here is some more updates for tonight. I found a 100% stable 24/7 clockspeed 4.14 ghz.. It is completely stable from benchmarking to gaming. I think I found my 24/7 setup fellas. I definitely need more vcore before I can do a 4.8 ghz suicide run. There is just not enough voltage.

I beat my personal 3dmark record. 13,467 marks in 3dm05. :beer:
This is with the stock x1900 xt, stock clock/mem speeds.
The processor is @ 4.14 ghz and the ram is at DDR2-920

http://strippoli.com/phase/3dmarkphase.JPG

What Vcore for 4.14ghz? 2x prime95 stable? thanks

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Originally Posted by dragonhunter

What Vcore for 4.14ghz? 2x prime95 stable? thanks

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1.62 vcore for 4.14 ghz

Dual Prime ran for 30 minutes while I was in the shower tonight without any errors. SuperPi32m is good. However, I will be leaving my rig on for the next 14 hours priming..

Nice rig dominick32. I think with a nice vdroop mod, maybe 4.2ghz 24/7 could be achievable.

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Originally Posted by moddolicous

Nice rig dominick32. I think with a nice vdroop mod, maybe 4.2ghz 24/7 could be achievable.

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Thank you kind sir. Yes, I need both a vdroop and vcore mod on my P5B. Is there anyone local to Long Island, NY that can do this for me? I would pay you for labor of course. One thing I will not get me hands dirty in is soldering.

Thanks,
Dom

UPDATE FOR 10:53 PM on Thursday Night:

I am continuing to suicide run the SHAT out of her.
4.32 ghz @ 1.62 vcore. New superpi1m record for me:

http://www.strippoli.com/phase/4320mhz.JPG

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Originally Posted by dominick32

UPDATE FOR 10:53 PM on Thursday Night:

I am continuing to suicide run the SHAT out of her.
4.32 ghz @ 1.62 vcore. New superpi1m record for me:

http://www.strippoli.com/phase/4320mhz.JPG

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What week is your conroe 6600?
:clap:

Just got out my retail box.
Batch Information:

L625A405

I am assuming that is a week 25 chip?

wow man you're lucky to have gotten such great parts from the manufacturer (w/ no mods you pushed it pretty far). gj :)

Hehe, and people think 27 is the only week that clocks well. :p:

If I just would be able to buy a conroe for my modded prommi - that's some sweet numbers for single stage :toast:

who needs a x6800 when you have a 6600 like that,huh!?

nice results there .whats the temps in the biose ?

The CPU should be able to do around 4.4~4.6Ghz. :toast:

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Originally Posted by SLi_dog

The CPU should be able to do around 4.4~4.6Ghz. :toast:

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Not with my voltage problem - Maximum voltage on the board = 1.62 actual with a droop to 1.578 under load. :mad: That is using a bios selected 1.7 vcore.

I need a vcore and vdroop mod to get more overclock out of her. Also, colder temps could help a bit too.

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Originally Posted by vanovich

nice results there .whats the temps in the biose ?

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Evaportator temps @ 4.1 ghz, 1.55 vcore = -48*C idle, -*39*C load
Bios Temps @ 4.1 ghz, 1.55 vcore = -27*C idle

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Originally Posted by dominick32

Not with my voltage problem - Maximum voltage on the board = 1.62 actual with a droop to 1.578 under load. :mad: That is using a bios selected 1.7 vcore.

I need a vcore and vdroop mod to get more overclock out of her. Also, colder temps could help a bit too.

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I have the same problem with my board. You probably could go higher but not at those FSB speeds. Try lowering the FSB and increasing the multiplier. I'm guessing you should be able to get it just under 4.5Ghz or maybe even higher.

Awesome! you make me want to build a conroe rig along whit a Vapochill ready Case and of course the Vapochill unit it self! lol Maybe this winter ill buy this stuff...

Nice Ocing By-the-way! Oh and do you have some pics of the Monster (the Rig itself) lol! >?

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Originally Posted by Patriote

Awesome! you make me want to build a conroe rig along whit a Vapochill ready Case and of course the Vapochill unit it self! lol Maybe this winter ill buy this stuff...

Nice Ocing By-the-way! Oh and do you have some pics of the Monster (the Rig itself) lol! >?

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Sure bro. Thanks for the props.

PLEASE EXCUSE THE MESSY WIRES. ONCE YOU GO PHASE CHANGE, YOU NEVER GO BACK TO BEING CLEAN AND PROPER... lol

http://strippoli.com/phase/4.JPG

http://strippoli.com/phase/5.JPG

http://strippoli.com/phase/6.JPG

You really hacked away at that coolermaster case :D

Is this your full time rig or just a bencher?

SweeeeeeeeeT! :slobber: Im definitly going to get Phase change if i get a Conroe. Have you got any of thoses Condensation problems yet ?

By-the-way: That's what i call a real Mess, Ill always be proper and clean in my case even whit Phase change cooling. I like the look of a case whitout any wires lol

Heres what mine look like right now : http://images6.theimagehosting.com/IMG_2179.914.th.jpg

I used to leave the cables like that but after ~3hrs of work, this is the result :D

http://img486.imageshack.us/img486/9...02largeah3.jpg

have you tried 1.675v set in bios ?
iirc, 1.7v give lower vcore than 1.675v

DragonHunter, Looking Good! Nice Management! It'll be even harder for me cuzz ill have My Vid cards watercooled lol

UPDATE FELLAS. I must say I am extremely pleases with this little 6600. Almost 4.4Ghz @ 1.62vcore.

Just installed a new thermalright HR chipset cooler and it turns out that my Northbridge has been holding me back BIG TIME!
New Superpi1m Record for me:

http://strippoli.com/phase/4374.JPG

I am getting the rig ready for volt modding and Liquid Nitrogen:
Goodbye cheasy coolermaster case. Hello to my new rig positioning: Sitting on top of the Vapochill with wires everywhere and HDD's on the table. lol

http://strippoli.com/phase/bench1.JPG

http://strippoli.com/phase/bench2.JPG

http://strippoli.com/phase/bench3.JPG

:eek2:

OUCH!!!!!!!! Hurry up and put something non-conductive under that motherboard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!
The back of the motherboard touching the metal case is


not good.

He posted a thread on OCF, he says he has rubber washers under the motherboard.

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Originally Posted by charlie

:eek2:

OUCH!!!!!!!! Hurry up and put something non-conductive under that motherboard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!
The back of the motherboard touching the metal case is


not good.

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Dude,
The motherboard is not touching metal to metal. As the previous poster responded, I have 1 inch rubber mounts underneath the board. Nothing is shorting out. Very quick to call me a moron arent ya?? :stick:

lol who called you a moron?

So there's a 1 inch rubber spacer under the MB right?? Or did you mean 1cm? ;) Or 1mm?

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Originally Posted by charlie

lol who called you a moron?

So there's a 1 inch rubber spacer under the MB right?? Or did you mean 1cm? ;) Or 1mm?

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Maybe this will make you see things a bit clearer:

http://strippoli.com/mounts.JPG

I think maybe you needed a clearer picturer Mr. Xtreme Legend.

PS- I am just busting your chops Charlie. :p: Believe me, I would never let my mobo sit directly on metal. lol

oh.... mobo resting on the Vapo thumbscrews...

That's cool. No you wouldn't believe the things we've seen over the years... and the pic was a little unclear from the first angle. Always safe to point out the obviuos stuff, you know?

BTW, OT... tell me about that new ViewSonic Gaming monitor :D Great price for a big screen.

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Originally Posted by charlie

oh.... mobo resting on the Vapo thumbscrews...

That's cool. No you wouldn't believe the things we've seen over the years... and the pic was a little unclear from the first angle. Always safe to point out the obviuos stuff, you know?

BTW, OT... tell me about that new ViewSonic Gaming monitor :D Great price for a big screen.

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There is alot of negative reviews on the VX924 that was leading me towards not purchasing one. But I tried out Fear and some DVD's on my cousins monitor and after checking out just about every retail store for LCDS (Best Buy, Circuit City, CompUSEXPENSIVE, MicroCenter, etc. etc.) I made up my mind on it for price/performance.

Anyway, I appreciate the responses. My next move is going to be to volt mod the mobo and go to LN2. But in all honesty I have no idea what I need to buy and how in the world I can go about volt modding?? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Kind regards,

15w soldering iron, 10k resistors, and some 30 guage copper wire, some guides would help too :P.

*UPDATE* 9/27/06

In preparation for a single stage Vapo LS upgrade and LN2 the Board is finished and just got some vmods:
Vcore, Vdroop, and VMCH:

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1...tmod002yk2.jpg

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/5...tmod001pr4.jpg


PS- My Vapo LS has been received by Jinu117 and is currently being beefed up so the primary bench rig is out of commission until I get my Vapo back. I am pumped to say the least.

Jinu is hooking up the Vapo with some extra spice. :banana:

Nice:toast:
With Jinu's moded Vapo you can go high..

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Originally Posted by Dumo

Nice:toast:
With Jinu's moded Vapo you can go high..

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Thanks for the props Dumo.
And the thing that really made up my mind with a Jinu117 Vapo Mod is his honesty. Rather than giving me false claims, he told me that my requested temperature goals would be very hard to achieve and he would do his best. He was honest and he responded to all of my nagging questions for the last 2 weeks. lol Not one time did he act as a salesman only a friend in the OC'ing game.

I will provide results as soon as I receive the unit from him.

Kind regards,

You can ask Jinu to put a "K" type temp. wire, so you can hook up digital thermo to the Vapo's evaporator.

Those are some nice temps and awesome clocks. I want to purchase or make a phase/change system someday, but unfortunately there is the issue of money.

Until then, I'll stick with a watercooling setup.

wow

I lucked into this thread...I happen to have an e6600 and vapochill ls going in on tomorrow, so this will be cool!!

I am currently running 3.88ghz 8 x 485 vcore set to 1.6

how do I know what week the chip is?

thanks

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Originally Posted by rjw

wow

I lucked into this thread...I happen to have an e6600 and vapochill ls going in on tomorrow, so this will be cool!!

I am currently running 3.88ghz 8 x 485 vcore set to 1.6

how do I know what week the chip is?

thanks

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On the box or on the CPU

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Originally Posted by DesertShooter

On the box or on the CPU

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thankfully I noted the numbers before lapping the cpu

mine said L628A91

does this mean week 28?

Yes . Week 28 .

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Originally Posted by Stelios

Yes . Week 28 .

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is that good , bad or who knows? :slobber: :D

Those clocks are insane. Excellent work.

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Originally Posted by rjw

is that good , bad or who knows? :slobber: :D

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I have an L627 E6700 and i can say that yours is better . I'm using a stronger Single stage (better temps) but your CPU clocks better .
I'll change mine pretty soon ... :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Stelios

I have an L627 E6700 and i can say that yours is better . I'm using a stronger Single stage (better temps) but your CPU clocks better .
I'll change mine pretty soon ... :rolleyes:

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You just need more vcore. Week 27's scale a lot.

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Originally Posted by epox4life

You just need more vcore. Week 27's scale a lot.

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Thanks for the tip ! I'll do a vcore mod and feed my CPU with 1.8V+

not all 27 do well... Luckyly I ahve a cpu like Coolalers Week 28B... I love it 4Ghz 32m stable at 1,52 vcore:D

Well I have my system up and running with vapochill LS

That's the good news..

here is my super pi score

http://rtate123.home.att.net/4342-sp11766.jpg

THis is on aP5B vanilla with no mods. Somehow it doesn't like fsb over 533Mhz


Will voltage mods help here?

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Originally Posted by rjw

Well I have my system up and running with vapochill LS

That's the good news..

here is a link to my super pi score

http://rtate123.home.att.net/rjt-sp-11860.jpg

THis is on aP5B vanilla with no mods. Somehow it doesn't like fsb over 533Mhz


Will voltage mods help here?

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yes , check ure mems , thy are holding u back ;) set the mem divider to 1:1 ;)

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Originally Posted by blind_ripper

yes , check ure mems , thy are holding u back ;) set the mem divider to 1:1 ;)

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It is at 1:1

Ram is Corsair extreme pc8500.should be no problem. Wondering if my board needs help? it's out of the box

Here's my latest

http://rtate123.home.att.net/4590-11250.jpg

here is my results 1mb superPI
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2936/1mbpisn2.th.jpg

cinebench 9.5

http://img319.imageshack.us/img319/1...4300mm2.th.jpg

cinebench 2003

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/490...2003or1.th.jpg

Mandelbrot

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7...rot1oi5.th.jpg

and Fract

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/7478/fractlj6.th.jpg this is bulgarian benchmark very good for single/multi core systems:)

this is only for bench,for 24/7 i`m on 4300mhz 1.56 vcore