TAKE2: Gigabyte DS3+E6400 Step6 B2+G.Skill PC6400 HZ+Big Typhoon Air....up to 3.8GHz

CPU: E6400 Step6 B2 (F3 & F4E bioses)
Motherboard: Gigabyte DS3
RAM: 2GB G.Skill PC6400 HZ
Cooler: TT Big Typhoon

getting any conroe is a total biatch and it seems that B2 are not performing to ES chip levels......got a E6400 to play with until a decent conroe comes by my way :)

I don't raise any voltage unless it gets me stuck on an overclock...........vcore is normally a culprit in higher MHz..........all the tests were started with stock voltages except RAM which is on 2.0vdimm...........the rest of screenshots have the info i changed in the shots.....

First boot 3GHz stock everything

http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/7...emps34cdl5.jpg


3GHz >>> 1 Hour Prime

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/173...42cloadtl2.jpg


Second boot 3.11GHz Dual 8M SPI still stock

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/743...emps36cto9.jpg


3.11GHz >>> 1/2 Hour Prime
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/6...43cloadpq0.jpg


Third boot 3.2GHz Dual 8M SPI still stock
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8...ps3637cgl0.jpg


Third boot 3.2GHz 1/2 Hour Prime
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/5...45cloadwm8.jpg

Forth boot 3.3GHz Dual 8M SPI >>>> looks like it's vcore raising time heheh
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8...cefailshe7.jpg


3.3GHz 1.4vcore 30 minute Prime
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5...47cloadew9.jpg


Forth boot 3.4GHz 1.4vcore Dual 8M SPI
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7...emps38cjp0.jpg

3.4GHz Prime 1.45v in bios ~ 1.42v Windows

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7...47cloadyj7.jpg



3.5GHz Dual 8M SuperPI 1.475 bios ~ 1.44v Windows

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9...emps40cti2.jpg



3.5GHz 1 Hour Prime Stable 1.49v in bios
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7...51cloadip0.jpg

3.6GHz Dual 8M SuperPI 1.525vcore
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/6...emps42cpc4.jpg



3.6GHz 32M single run 15m 30.484s W00T!!!
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/1...m30484svg7.jpg



3.7GHz benches!!! :)

3.712GHz 1M SuperPI 15.828s
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6...v15828shd6.jpg

3.7GHz 8M SuperPI 3m 02.109s
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/9...m02109slb1.jpg

3.7GHz 32M SuperPI 15m 08.234s
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/9...m08234ssx3.jpg

Took down a couple of personal and W.R. for my trusty old X800 Vanilla...(not downclocked Pro or any other card :)

E6400@3.7GHz
X800 12P Vanilla Stock Air 390/350 OCd to 445/577MHz
3DMARK01: 37765

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9024368

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/7...7mhzairsx0.jpg




E6400@3.7GHz
X800 12P Vanilla Stock Air 390/350 OCd to 445/577MHz
3DMARK05: 5839

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2153318

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/9...7mhzairrm6.jpg


3752MHz 32M SuperPI DONE!!! 1.55vcore, RAM: 2.1vdimm
Time: 14m 40.781s

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/6...m40781sly4.jpg




Didn't bother benching past 3736MHz 8M as i was sub 3minute mark on 8M :D

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/267...m59047sao1.jpg



3.8GHz 1M SuperPI DONE!!!!!
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2...v15438sai5.jpg

was asked about SPI performance so here is a clean run with a decent time at 3.6GHz for comparison
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/908...m35500ssx7.jpg





Update!!!

3.8GHz 32M SuperPI
Sub-14m run :woot: :banana: :D

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/133...7187swmqn3.jpg


3.8GHz 3DMARK01
X800 Vanilla overclocked to 448/588 W.R. :D

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9026406

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/851...hzairwmvn3.jpg



3840MHz 1M SuperPI

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8...5359swmjq5.jpg




3.9GHz+ Screenshot

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2852/cpu3912ic4.png

If that isn't B-E-A-eutiful!
If you call that an indecent oc one more time, I'll be happy to take that E6400 off your hands :D
Great results there, keep pushing that thing ;)
Are the temps posted in Core-temp correct readings (for software)??

Best Regards :toast:

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Originally Posted by DTU_XaVier

If that isn't B-E-A-eutiful!
If you call that an indecent oc one more time, I'll be happy to take that E6400 off your hands :D
Great results there, keep pushing that thing ;)
Are the temps posted in Core-temp correct readings (for software)??

Best Regards :toast:

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hehe thanks

yeah i've got something else on the way to test.........i can't just settle on the first(or second) chip i get......can't fall asleep at night you know what i mean heh

coretemp is supposed to be reading the CPU temp sensor but i donno the results have been flaky from two different motherboards with same E6300ES i was testing prior to this so hard to say

when i touch the base of TTBT during 3.7GHz benches it was luke warm at best

Ay ayay, aren't you speeding, my boy :lol: It looks like there ARE some people that can get their DS3 to run alright... :) I'm sure with even better push, you'll be cruising a 4GHz highway very soon, man! :up:
Thanks for a through Pi benching here and in your previous thread :toast:

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Ay ayay, aren't you speeding, my boy :lol: It looks like there ARE some people that can get their DS3 to run alright... :) I'm sure with even better push, you'll be cruising a 4GHz highway very soon, man! :up:

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if i had crazy ambient temps and monster air cooler with 1.65v i think it's doable

or just a better chip...........hopefully the next one can do without those extremes

well my Single Stage Rotary is upset cause we didn't do it for many months now ;) :D

I would kill for some R404 gas in Australia but no one seems to have any ffs :(

i hate you... very much..

i cant even do 925 with my hz's and 1000 5-5-5 is impossible.. it wont work
single or dual channel 2 sticks or 1.
im extremely pi$$ed off at this point i wasted my money on this ram.

and for now i cant tell if its the ram or the mobo.

only indication i have that its the mobo is that the 6400 ZX's i had did the same thing.
no amount of voltage or tweaking fixes it. 900-925 is ok but above that.. forget it.
400fsb cold bootable at 1.33 is 100% stable and good. thats a 9x multi btw.
3.6ghz 1.33v

so good cpu run but horrible memory freq.

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hehe thanks

yeah i've got something else on the way to test.........i can't just settle on the first(or second) chip i get......can't fall asleep at night you know what i mean heh

coretemp is supposed to be reading the CPU temp sensor but i donno the results have been flaky from two different motherboards with same E6300ES i was testing prior to this so hard to say

when i touch the base of TTBT during 3.7GHz benches it was luke warm at best

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core temp is junk i really wish people would stop using it. it reports temps just insanely high
just use speedfan thats all you need.
it reads the temps on the DS3 right on the money

i don't think any of those temps things are correct to be honest

how the hell would 100C in bios be correct you tell me i've seen temps range from 60-130C.......at least coretemp reports constant temps and in the range rather than onboard bioses.....well it seems a bit more accurante than anything else

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i don't think any of those temps things are correct to be honest

how the hell would 100C in bios be correct you tell me i've seen temps range from 60-130C.......at least coretemp reports constant temps and in the range rather than onboard bioses.....well it seems a bit more accurante than anything else

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yes, so far none of those programs are reliable...

awesome results, pushing more volts wont get you any higher dinos? Cant wait for my setup :D

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awesome results, pushing more volts wont get you any higher dinos? Cant wait for my setup :D

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i have not tried to be honest and really don't want to


i am modding my single stage phase soon with some better temps and mounting so i'll give it all the :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: wants heh

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if i had crazy ambient temps and monster air cooler with 1.65v i think it's doable

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Yes I agree! Very nice air results with your e6400 :toast:

sweet, keep us posted. 938 the wall on your ram for cas 4? Very impressive stuff, I'll trade you my "classic" 1800xp setup clocked at a very monstrous 1.5ghz for your conroe setup :p:. The sad thing is... its still my main rig :fact:

Im just waiting on the new boards this month to see how they scale before I jump on the horse

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Yes I agree! Very nice air results with your e6400 :toast:

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thanks

.........just saw Andres thread.........i know his CPU is stronger but i think i'll shove this mofo with some more volts and see if it does anything heh.......

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sweet, keep us posted. 938 the wall on your ram for cas 4? Very impressive stuff, I'll trade you my "classic" 1800xp setup clocked at a very monstrous 1.5ghz for your conroe setup :p:. The sad thing is... its still my main rig :fact:

Im just waiting on the new boards this month to see how they scale before I jump on the horse

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nah mate

my RAM can do past 500MHz 4-4-4-12 :)

i dont think the board can do above 925 very good no matter what cas timings.
kenofstephens is having the same issues.
he cant do 1000mhz with his teamgroup ram.

boy dont that just kick ya in the nutz. its a waste of ram to buy such good stuff for this baord.



dinos if you get a chance and have a 6600 throw it in there find out what your FSB wall is bootable and in windows.

i have my 4ghz 12sec 1m Pi over in the hwbot thread. wonder where that will place me ?

I thought that the DS3 couldnt boot to more than 1.8 Volts on the Vdimm? dont HZ need 2.0 - 2.1 Volts?


Alex

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Originally Posted by AgonxOC

I thought that the DS3 couldnt boot to more than 1.8 Volts on the Vdimm? dont HZ need 2.0 - 2.1 Volts?


Alex

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wakes up at 1.9v and HZ stick have not problems booting

at least not for me

Lestat 2.2v 32M 500MHz 4-4-4-12 no problem at all

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/562...2v44412ni4.jpg

How high did you have to raise the voltage for the other components like the Northbridge?

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How high did you have to raise the voltage for the other components like the Northbridge?

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STOCK voltages :) :toast:

So if I get the HZ I shouldnt have any issues.....


Alex

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So if I get the HZ I shouldnt have any issues.....


Alex

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no i am yet to see someone have problems with them

cough cough


i have the HZ's and i cant get past 900 without issues.
i dont think these boards particularly like 900mhz or higher dram.

now i can set the fsb higher in windows but it isnt stable.

trying to boot by setting the memory divider to 1000 is impossible. it wont work. it either doesnt boot at all, or you get MASSIVE errors in memtest.
this is with 9x 8x 7x and even 6x

So what memory should I select?

Alex

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STOCK voltages :) :toast:

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Holy sh1t...

:clap:

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Originally Posted by AgonxOC

So what memory should I select?

Alex

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HZ

don't worry about Lestat he generalises way too much...........Lestat thinks he's talking for 1000s of users from experience with a single kit of HZ........from what i've seen with other users they are just fine:toast:

Sounds good. I will have the same exact combo asyou except for Big Typhoon VX and OCZ PC2-6400 platinums I'm hoping for the best.

i'm going to do some tweaking soon.............i'll also test the XS version of XP to see what i can do in terms of SPI speed

here is a quick test at 3.6GHz which gives me a new PB 150MHz slower on CPU and lower RAM frequency.........:)

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/193...superpipz1.jpg

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STOCK voltages :) :toast:

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Omg, lucky bastard :)
My OCZ PC6400 goes up to 500mhz but I can't get my mobo over 450mhz. Tried to raise Fsb & Mch voltage (even +0.3v), it all doesn't help.
Even @ mp 6, 440-450mhz is the max :(

What bios are you using? I'm using F4C atm (haven't tried other biosses yet)

dinos22:

Have you tried RAM @ >520 any timings/voltage? My corsair UL can do 500 4-3-3 2.37V easy but no go above 520 any timings. I am not really sure but I highly doubt it is memory limit

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dinos22:

Have you tried RAM @ >520 any timings/voltage? My corsair UL can do 500 4-3-3 2.37V easy but no go above 520 any timings. I am not really sure but I highly doubt it is memory limit

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yeah i have the same problem

man your RAM kicks arse 4-3-3

Actually I just run another loop of occt + prime and then some 3d and they are stable at 500 4-3-2 2.37V DMM :) I will probably get e6400 in a few days, aiming for 8x500 :D

good to see kiwi can't wait to see your results




Update!!!

3.8GHz 32M SuperPI
Sub-14m run :woot: :banana: :D

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/133...7187swmqn3.jpg


3.8GHz 3DMARK01
X800 Vanilla overclocked to 448/588 W.R. :D

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9026406

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/851...hzairwmvn3.jpg



3840MHz 1M SuperPI

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8...5359swmjq5.jpg




3.9GHz+ Screenshot

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2852/cpu3912ic4.png

1.59v hehe

something strange was going on at 1.6v goes to windows at any speed but keyboard and mouse don't work..................funny thing is the bios vcore options are in pretty small increments UNTIL 1.6......the next option after 1.6v is 1.8v :eek: and 2.0v:eek: :eek:

this is with bios F4E

wonder if F3 has smaller increments past 1.6v

Damn, gets pretty satanic after 1.6v huh :devil:. Try raising the Fsb & Mch voltage and it might just get stable where your at (3.9). Great results :D

Here my Results:

Vcore: 1.6 Volt
Vdimm: 2.3 Volt
Chipset: 1.6 Volt
Vfsb: +0.3


http://s2.bilder-hosting.de/img/8DDUI.jpg


http://s2.bilder-hosting.de/img/CAVFO.jpg


Regards

Roger

dinos, did you mod the NB in anyway? Stock paste and everything?

splmann- on single stage or air? If thats on air... nice

Sorry its on Single Stage !!!

Regards

Roger

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3.7GHz 32M SuperPI 15m 08.234s
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/9...m08234ssx3.jpg

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Here's a comparison with P5B Dlx @ 3.6GHz. The larger L2 cache of Conroe/Kentsfield makes a difference in Pi.

1:1
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2244/32m400x9rx8.jpg

2:3 ratio
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/5468/32m3600ie1.jpg

Dinos wtf your 1m pi is way wayyyy slow. and your at 3.8ghz ?. what gives ?
mine at 3.6ghz 400 mhz FSB 1:1 4-4-4-12 is less than 14sec. i believe.
@ 3.8ghz its right at about 13 seconds.
wierd. why is yours so slow

odd.

As I just showed, you can't compare Allendale and Conroe. In SuperPi, Conroe will win just about every time because of the larger cache. Allendale/965 is a fun combo to overclock. But that combo will get slaughtered in 32M by Conroe/965. Likewise, Conroe/965 will lose to Conroe/975. All of the Pi records have been done with Conroe/975. That's not just coincidence.

ahhh i didnt notice he had an allendale

the 975 vs 965 is true but there still aint a good 975 baord. and i call the bad axe not good cuz it all has to be done by windows programs for the most part.
i dont care for that. but thats just me ya know.
and the P5W DH yucky i had 2 of them i wont be getting another.

i like my little $145 DS3. franky clock for clock and dollar for dollar i still say its the best board out right now.

OK, 4.1GHz retail conroe + 965 is a good progress already for this combination :)
Now if anyone showed me retail 9x500 on 965 I'd be willing to get one myself :D

Please don't confuse with ES + 965


Or maybe I should get one and see what it does under ss/dice

I'm running retail E6400 with DS4 and I'm stuck at 400 FSB... I can boot without any problems but when I run dual prime I get error. I believe it has to be the RAM, because CPU stress test only works fine.

I have G.Skill 6400 HZ 2x512 MB 4-4-4-12 d9 micron. I tried to run them at 5-5-5-15 with no luck. Any ideas what it could be?

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Here's a comparison with P5B Dlx @ 3.6GHz. The larger L2 cache of Conroe/Kentsfield makes a difference in Pi.

1:1
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2244/32m400x9rx8.jpg

2:3 ratio
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/5468/32m3600ie1.jpg

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hey sierra that was a run with a bunch of stuff running in the background

here is a clean run with a MUCH better time at only 3.6GHz as well ;)


http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/908...m35500ssx7.jpg

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dinos, did you mod the NB in anyway? Stock paste and everything?

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no mods at all

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Dinos wtf your 1m pi is way wayyyy slow. and your at 3.8ghz ?. what gives ?
mine at 3.6ghz 400 mhz FSB 1:1 4-4-4-12 is less than 14sec. i believe.
@ 3.8ghz its right at about 13 seconds.
wierd. why is yours so slow

odd.

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i don't have the tweaks for 1M

in fact I do not bench for fast 1M but simply just the highest clock i can get so i have a few windows running :)

32M is a different story for me

compare your times with mine for the 3.6GHz and 3.8GHz runs with Allendale and you'll see what i mean

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Originally Posted by sierra_bound

As I just showed, you can't compare Allendale and Conroe. In SuperPi, Conroe will win just about every time because of the larger cache. Allendale/965 is a fun combo to overclock. But that combo will get slaughtered in 32M by Conroe/965. Likewise, Conroe/965 will lose to Conroe/975. All of the Pi records have been done with Conroe/975. That's not just coincidence.

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we are yet to see people seriously bench SuperPI on 965+allendale

i'll make sure that sentiment changes that's for sure..... :)

my only gripe is that the motherboard does not give me 500-600 speeds reliably so the answer maybe to get the asus..... but i still have some tweaking to do :)

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Sorry its on Single Stage !!!

Regards

Roger

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nice OC :)

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we are yet to see people seriously bench SuperPI on 965+allendale

i'll make sure that sentiment changes that's for sure..... :)

my only gripe is that the motherboard does not give me 500-600 speeds reliably so the answer maybe to get the asus..... but i still have some tweaking to do :)

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What I'm saying is that clock/clock, Conroe will beat Allendale, especially in 32M. How high Allendale clocks is a different matter. Conroe will beat it at any speed. If 32M is your thing, you need Conroe and a 975 board. Coolaler and the Japanese are setting all the records in Pi. Look at the boards and CPU's they're using.

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What I'm saying is that clock/clock, Conroe will beat Allendale, especially in 32M. How high Allendale clocks is a different matter. Conroe will beat it at any speed. If 32M is your thing, you need Conroe and a 975 board. Coolaler and the Japanese are setting all the records in Pi. Look at the boards and CPU's they're using.

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yeah that's true but good conroes are hard to come by........if certain batches start performing like some of the Step5 B1 i'll be getting into it for sure

i think that conroe beats allendale in 1M a LOT more than 32M actually

Nice results mate,here's mine E6400&DS3&Crucial Ballistix

3880Mhz 1.55v

http://www.imagesforme.com/thumbs/5940388032M.JPG

Orthos 3.76Ghz 1.50v =>

http://www.imagesforme.com/thumbs/1150orthosstab.JPG

wow nice one dude

what week?

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wow nice one dude

what week?

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Yeah, what week?

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wow nice one dude

what week?

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Really don't know,tomorrow switching to P5B so i'll take a closer look :)

Thoroughbred b,
You can check the week from the "FPO/BATCH" # printed on the cardboard package of the cpu.
That's if your chip is retail.

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Thoroughbred b,
You can check the week from the "FPO/BATCH" # printed on the cardboard package of the cpu.
That's if your chip is retail.

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Thnx here it is =>

L625A300

;)

gawd damn why did australia miss out on L625 E6400 CPUs :mad: :mad:

my e6400 can do 2h in orthos on 3600mhz and 1.35v core ; +2vmech and +1 vfsb, on DS3 :banana: . What would you say about that? Don't look at the timings, i didn't changed anything. http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6...thosff7.th.jpg

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my e6400 can do 2h in orthos on 3600mhz and 1.35v core ; +2vmech and +1 vfsb, on DS3 :banana: . What would you say about that? Don't look at the timings, i didn't changed anything. http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6...thosff7.th.jpg

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wow man what stepping is that

can you measure vcore with DMM

it's L630b003 . Rest is on the print screen
I can measure it, but on weekend ;) And i need the reading points (where on mobo i can measure it)

I'm looking for the best bios 4 ds3, any ideas?

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Originally Posted by ogOOr

it's L630b003 . Rest is on the print screen
I can measure it, but on weekend ;) And i need the reading points (where on mobo i can measure it)

I'm looking for the best bios 4 ds3, any ideas?

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i've used DS3 a while back so don't know now but search XS there should be measure points marked by Kunaak

btw that is a killer CPU....can you get more dude

I bought it in www.scan.co.uk it isn't select:D But i will try to do 2h in orthos on 3800 on some low vcore