Is your C2D running slower then normal?

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08-07-2006, 06:19 AM
Eastcoasthandle

Is your C2D running slower then normal?

Well take a look at this hotfix from MS. if you look at the date it's roughly 2 weeks old.
link
08-07-2006, 06:36 AM
Icer

Interesting, did you try it?
08-07-2006, 06:39 AM
xgman

Hmm, pain in the neck to have to call MS to get it. Any links to direct download?
08-07-2006, 06:39 AM
FusionZ06

Wow in for later this looks very interesting.
08-07-2006, 06:51 AM
Plaicd

Quote:

Originally Posted by xgman

Hmm, pain in the neck to have to call MS to get it. Any links to direct download?

Thought it said the files are already in sp2 and to just add the registry key. :confused:
08-07-2006, 06:52 AM
Eastcoasthandle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icer

Interesting, did you try it?

I don't have the updated version, only the old version from last year. However, using that, I do notice a bit of performance jump when XP loads up (seeing the icons all pop up at once on desktop...and I have a lot of them). Other then that, still looking for other things... But I would perfer the newer version though. Still looking for a link...
08-07-2006, 07:01 AM
Plaicd

Hmm... well after looking at the files listed and the ones on my pc (xpsp2) it seems they are newer.
08-07-2006, 07:18 AM
Plaicd

I think I found a place with the right files.
http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/...hp/t10272.html
08-07-2006, 07:21 AM
BottomsUp

shouldn't disabling EIST and C1 in the bios eliminate this since those are the power saving features?
08-07-2006, 07:32 AM
Eastcoasthandle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plaicd

I think I found a place with the right files.
http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/...hp/t10272.html

good find, thanks
08-07-2006, 07:54 AM
Plaicd

Anyone install the "fix" yet?
Did it screw up anything?
08-07-2006, 08:03 AM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by BottomsUp

shouldn't disabling EIST and C1 in the bios eliminate this since those are the power saving features?

you would think so. Anyone else on this??
08-07-2006, 08:25 AM
Mikesnav

tried the one linked above... didn't do anything.

Thing bothering me was bootup, takes like 8-9 bars and my A64 rig took as few as 4. (this is after same optimizations)

Then again, I'm using XP Pro for the A64, and MCE for the C2D.
08-07-2006, 08:26 AM
xgman

someone host this please. need to remove link soon.

(http://hotfixv4.microsoft.com/Window...U_i386_zip.exe)
08-07-2006, 08:35 AM
garnin

Quote:

Originally Posted by xgman

someone host this please. need to remove link soon.

(http://hotfixv4.microsoft.com/Window...U_i386_zip.exe)

There's a pword on that file.
08-07-2006, 08:48 AM
xgman

Q1]_{xN

good through 8-10-06
08-07-2006, 09:35 AM
Mikesnav

File hosted
08-07-2006, 09:38 AM
Eastcoasthandle

http://gis.ou.edu/pipermail/okgis/2004-May/000218.html
what does this file do in particular?
http://www.techspot.com/vb/all/windo...-properly.html
that file being hosted by Mikesnav (now) is a USB hotfix??
08-07-2006, 09:38 AM
AndrewZorn

is this the 'dual core hotfix'?
08-07-2006, 10:00 AM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle

No that' is a mass storage usb hotfix wt???

The file I direct linked with PW should be the fix for KB896256 that MS sent me. I haven't installed it yet.
It is the right one. It links back to the multiprocessor hotfix page.

Re: Own a Dual Core, Perf issues? Need the Hotfix?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
link above 251321_ENU_i386_zip.exe is the correct one.
08-13-2006, 05:16 AM
Eastcoasthandle

has anyone installed this hotfix and notice an improvement yet?
08-13-2006, 05:18 AM
Shintai

Uhhhh....wonder how much performance diff it makes.
08-15-2006, 07:12 AM
Eastcoasthandle

Hmm, haven't heard that before. It's suppose to be for dual core...not AMD specifically...Or am I miss reading something?
08-15-2006, 07:26 AM
FusionZ06

Quote:

Originally Posted by xgman

someone host this please. need to remove link soon.

(http://hotfixv4.microsoft.com/Window...U_i386_zip.exe)

File re-hosted:

http://www.saintsworth.com/files/251...U_i386_zip.exe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle

has anyone installed this hotfix and notice an improvement yet?

I want to know also...
08-20-2006, 01:22 PM
DEVIL_DK

Quote:

Originally Posted by FusionZ06

File re-hosted:

http://www.saintsworth.com/files/251...U_i386_zip.exe

I want to know also...

hostet here too

www.dksdevil.dk/251321_ENU_i386_zip.exe
08-20-2006, 01:30 PM
syne_24

so no one try this yet?
08-20-2006, 02:03 PM
Frackal

It's asking for a password for a certain file before allowing installation to continue?
08-20-2006, 07:59 PM
miochza

Any update on this? Anyone use it?
08-20-2006, 11:55 PM
CrazyJohn

damn, my localised polish windows doesn't allow an english hotfix to install :(
08-21-2006, 06:05 AM
Eastcoasthandle

anyone called MS for V4 yet?
08-21-2006, 06:57 AM
topboy

i just got version 4 form MS

Who wants to host it
08-21-2006, 07:00 AM
lawrywild

Quote:

Originally Posted by topboy

i just got version 4 form MS

Who wants to host it

Upload to www.rapidshare.de

But isn't this only if running EIST?
08-21-2006, 07:04 AM
topboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrywild

Upload to www.rapidshare.de

But isn't this only if running EIST?

No This is for all XP SP2 installs with or without EIST. Microsoft confirmed this on the phone to me just now.
08-21-2006, 07:05 AM
topboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by brentpresley

I'll host it. I've got some extra space.

PM me.

PM SENT
08-21-2006, 07:08 AM
topboy

ALSO

You MUST edit the registry to make this work

As follows

1. Click Start, click Run, type regedit, and then click OK.
2. Right-click HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Session Manager, point to New, and then click Key.
3. Type Throttle for the new key name.
4. Right-click Throttle, point to New, and then click DWORD Value.
5. Type PerfEnablePackageIdle for the value name.
6. Right-click PerfEnablePackageIdle, and then click Modify.
7. In the Value data box, type 1. Make sure that Hexadecimal is selected in the Edit DWORD Value dialog box, and then click OK.

To Disable thie new hotfix feature change the 1 (One) to a 0 (zero)
08-21-2006, 07:23 AM
topboy

Just emailed it to brentpresley who should host it soon.

Thanks brent
08-21-2006, 09:42 AM
Eastcoasthandle

Is it sorted yet, Brentpresley/topboy?
Also will you need to uninstall V3?
08-21-2006, 09:52 AM
mds47

Just a quick question, does this fix apply to P4's with Hyperthreading? It mentions logical cores...

mds
08-21-2006, 10:56 AM
Sanborn

So what does this even do? no one has explained.
08-21-2006, 10:58 AM
lawrywild

I'm wondering the same thing lol.. :stick:

the registry additions are just like the X2 hotfix thing
08-21-2006, 03:23 PM
fornowagain

Quote:

Originally Posted by topboy

i just got version 4 form MS

Who wants to host it

Could you quote the file name please?
08-21-2006, 03:30 PM
topboy

i emailed the zip to brent but it never made it there

But anyway i checked the file revision of this download that MS sent and its the same as the one at the top of this page.

The webpage says Revision 4, I think they have revised the details on the web not the file

So get the MS Dualcore hotfix from the link at top of page and install and add registry keys.

Yes this is the same hotfix that applies to the AMD chips as well.
08-22-2006, 03:48 AM
Eastcoasthandle

interesting are they playing the name game here?
08-22-2006, 07:16 AM
DEVIL_DK

Quote:

Originally Posted by topboy

i just got version 4 form MS

Who wants to host it

i can host it for you :)

well if its the same file it´s still on the link i gave before.
08-23-2006, 08:00 AM
Eastcoasthandle

Hmm has anyone tried this at all?
08-23-2006, 08:29 AM
Jimbo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frackal

It's asking for a password for a certain file before allowing installation to continue?

What is the password for this file?
08-23-2006, 08:54 AM
Jimbo

Am I missing something here??

Please someone whats the password to unzip this file? I want to install it.
08-23-2006, 09:37 AM
Eastcoasthandle

Quote:

Originally Posted by xgman

Q1]_{xN

...

this is the password found within this thread.
08-23-2006, 09:41 AM
Jimbo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle

this is the password found within this thread.

Oh thanks very much mate, I treid to copy and paste that in and it didnt work. I'll type it in this time.:)

EDIT:

Nope that password dont seem to work??
08-23-2006, 09:59 AM
bing

Non encrypted but its version 3 though -> WindowsXP-KB896256-v3-x86-ENU.exe

Where is ver 4 ?
08-23-2006, 10:05 AM
Jimbo

Thanks very much, I will install it now.
08-23-2006, 10:24 AM
Jimbo

Ok I'm crap at these things, but does this look right...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ualcorefix.jpg
08-23-2006, 10:30 AM
Eastcoasthandle

yup that looks right

We are still looking for V4. I don't think MS gave that guy the right version when they told him it was V4. You clearly have V3 and it says so on the file. Where is V4?

Can someone call MS and ask them for it, please? Make sure it reads v4.

Edit: wait when I installed V3 and click on the supporting link it took me to the MS website with V4 on it instead of V3 back in July. I don't believe there is a V4 out.
08-23-2006, 10:32 AM
Jimbo

Great thanks very muchly. :-)
08-24-2006, 06:26 AM
conarth

I tried the hotfix and the registry fix. Under Idle my multi still drops to 6x. It does just back to 10x when it's needed, but I would like to disable this. I have a Bad Axe MB.
09-03-2006, 05:04 PM
Eastcoasthandle

http://www.techspot.com/news/22728-i...-techspot.html
check out the OC'ing results
09-03-2006, 05:47 PM
M Diddy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle

here is a review of OC
http://www.techspot.com/news/22728-i...-techspot.html

Has anyone found an update yet?

What does that have to do with the hotfix????
09-03-2006, 06:03 PM
dinos22

lol i was going to ask the same thing
09-03-2006, 06:11 PM
M Diddy

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

lol i was going to ask the same thing

Glad I'm not the only loon.... :D
09-03-2006, 06:20 PM
Shadoxity

ummm guys....

The revision 3, 4 etc is when there have been changes to the actual web page, not the hotfix.

The hotfix is from september 2005 and i believe that this would relate more to AMD chips...

You can install it if you want but i dont think it will change anything unless you are getting bad performance already!

I have access to the hotfix portal and there is only the 1 hotfix, no different versions...
09-03-2006, 06:28 PM
linflas

ROFL, now that I look at the page more closely I see what you mean, if you look in the hotfix listing for file structure, dated sept '05, LOL

Thanks for pointing that out, have been watching this thread wondering.

Unsubscribed now.

Nead to read a bit more closely next time
03-10-2007, 01:17 PM
Eastcoasthandle

Ok, V4 of this hotfix has been released.
Once you install the hotfix V4 then complete the registry edit:

Quote:

1. Click Start, click Run, type regedit, and then click OK.
2. Right-click HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Session Manager, point to New, and then click Key.
3. Type Throttle for the new key name.
4. Right-click Throttle, point to New, and then click DWORD Value.
5. Type PerfEnablePackageIdle for the value name.
6. Right-click PerfEnablePackageIdle, and then click Modify.
7. In the Value data box, type 0. Make sure that Hexadecimal is selected in the Edit DWORD Value dialog box, and then click OK.

Along with the boot.ini /usepmtimer tweak, I am loading up programs like Adobe Photo, Catalyst Control Center (which is notorious for being slow) BF2, CS:S, etc a whole lot faster now. I use the Adobe Photo program a lot and it didn't make sense to me why it was taking so long to load up (after a format, XP reinstall). But this does the trick. The reason for this update is to inform you of the v4 Hotfix. OP indicated the v3 hotfix.
03-10-2007, 01:43 PM
ahmad

Yeah v4 was released Decemeber 19th people. But yes, this is based off the old fix released earlier. I would guess this one has some fixes.

How hard is it to upload to rapidshare or megaupload. I will download the patch and host it.
03-10-2007, 01:48 PM
nealh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle

Ok, V4 of this hotfix has been released.
Once you install the hotfix V4 then complete the registry edit:

Along with the boot.ini /usepmtimer tweak, I am loading up programs like Adobe Photo, Catalyst Control Center (which is notorious for being slow) BF2, CS:S, etc a whole lot faster now. I use the Adobe Photo program a lot and it didn't make sense to me why it was taking so long to load up (after a format, XP reinstall). But this does the trick. The reason for this update is to inform you of the v4 Hotfix. OP indicated the v3 hotfix.

what tweak is this one?
03-10-2007, 01:55 PM
ahmad

You add /usepmtimer to your boot.ini Windows XP line. I can't remember if its usepmtimer or usepmtimers.

EDIT: its timer.
03-10-2007, 01:59 PM
Shintai

This is not needed for C2D.

If it was this "hotfix" would be the most common thing for everyone. Then it would be everywhere and used everywhere and most likely marked as a critical update. So please....go find the real issue instead. Most likely pr0ndialers and crap. But since this was started on a pure speculation..also im quite sure its superseeded now.

I´m sure if it was important that MS would have moved it from beta to patch after 1½ year. And perhaps alot of people now win problems due to installing it without having the problem first described.
03-10-2007, 02:02 PM
Shintai

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahmad

You add /usepmtimer to your boot.ini Windows XP line. I can't remember if its usepmtimer or usepmtimers.

EDIT: its timer.

Thats the AMD TSC fix with their "driver".
03-10-2007, 02:02 PM
ahmad

This is what I thought, but I am trying anyways.

Here is the dl:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=T4ZSMN9I
03-10-2007, 02:07 PM
nealh

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahmad

You add /usepmtimer to your boot.ini Windows XP line. I can't remember if its usepmtimer or usepmtimers.

EDIT: its timer.

but does it work on Intel...I thought that was for AMD only
03-10-2007, 02:11 PM
Eastcoasthandle

As, I posted earlier, I do see reduce time in loading up programs like CCC and Adode Photoshop. These 2 alone was proof enough for me. These 2 programs would always pause my system as it loaded until I performed the Hotfix. FYI, MS doesn't refer to this hotfix for AMD only and I am a believer.
03-10-2007, 02:13 PM
Shintai

I also believe the event to trigger this can only happen on a laptop.
03-10-2007, 02:14 PM
Shintai

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle

As, I posted earlier, I do see reduce time in loading up programs like CCC and Adode Photoshop. These 2 alone was proof enough for me. These 2 programs would always pause my system as it loaded until I performed the Hotfix. FYI, MS doesn't refer to this hotfix for AMD only and I am a believer.

Reduced loadingtime for CCC? CCC opens here in 2-3secs. Perhaps you just updated ATI drivers since they changed their CCC model. Try run some benches instead.
03-10-2007, 02:23 PM
Eastcoasthandle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shintai

Reduced loadingtime for CCC? CCC opens here in 2-3secs. Perhaps you just updated ATI drivers since they changed their CCC model. Try run some benches instead.

The purpose of my post was show that I notice a difference without doing benchmarks.
03-10-2007, 02:40 PM
Blacklash

This is fixed in Vista?
03-10-2007, 02:49 PM
Eastcoasthandle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blacklash

This is fixed in Vista?

I don't think so, from my understand this is intended for XP only.
03-13-2007, 03:22 PM
Eastcoasthandle

Quote:

Originally Posted by brentpresley

Yep, I don't get any stalls on XP bootup anymore (i.e. when McAfee is loading). Photoshop seems to load a bit faster as well.

Good find.

EDIT - this thread needs to be referenced (sticky maybe?). I'm noticing a substantial improvement in the load times for almost all my apps. Looks like MS's thread scheduler needed some work.

Any parallel release for Vista? Vista just runs like a dog in comparison now (and on my dual boot machine, they were once pretty close in speed).

Glad someone else find some use for this as well. :toast:

As for Vista, lets hope people like Black Viper find a solution. His website is up now so maybe something will pop up by years end??
04-18-2007, 02:01 AM
Eastcoasthandle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle

Ok, V4 of this hotfix has been released.
Once you install the hotfix V4 then complete the registry edit:

Along with the boot.ini /usepmtimer tweak, I am loading up programs like Adobe Photo, Catalyst Control Center (which is notorious for being slow) BF2, CS:S, etc a whole lot faster now. I use the Adobe Photo program a lot and it didn't make sense to me why it was taking so long to load up (after a format, XP reinstall). But this does the trick. The reason for this update is to inform you of the v4 Hotfix. OP indicated the v3 hotfix.

Has anyone else tried V4 hotfix?
04-18-2007, 03:19 AM
jimmsch

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle

Ok, V4 of this hotfix has been released.
Once you install the hotfix V4 then complete the registry edit:

1. Click Start, click Run, type regedit, and then click OK.
2. Right-click HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Session Manager, point to New, and then click Key.
3. Type Throttle for the new key name.
4. Right-click Throttle, point to New, and then click DWORD Value.
5. Type PerfEnablePackageIdle for the value name.
6. Right-click PerfEnablePackageIdle, and then click Modify.
7. In the Value data box, type 0. Make sure that Hexadecimal is selected in the Edit DWORD Value dialog box, and then click OK.

Along with the boot.ini /usepmtimer tweak, I am loading up programs like Adobe Photo, Catalyst Control Center (which is notorious for being slow) BF2, CS:S, etc a whole lot faster now. I use the Adobe Photo program a lot and it didn't make sense to me why it was taking so long to load up (after a format, XP reinstall). But this does the trick. The reason for this update is to inform you of the v4 Hotfix. OP indicated the v3 hotfix.

On the link you posted it says these instructions for regedit are to DISABLE the tweak. Set that hexidecimal value to "1" to ENABLE.

Also where is this boot.ini/usepmtimer tweak?
04-18-2007, 10:38 AM
Eastcoasthandle

System Properties, advance tab, Startup and Recovery section click on <Settings> button then click on <edit> button you add /usepmtimer to theend of the same line you find /fastdetect /noexeucte /usepmtimer
like that
04-18-2007, 12:16 PM
jimmsch

thanx

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