The mobo is never modded.
MB: P5WDG2 WS Pro
CPU: E6300 Retail Box
Ram: GSKILL DDR2 800 HZ
Power: Zippy 850W
VGA: Matrox G450 PCI
http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/WSPRO-473.JPG
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The mobo is never modded.
MB: P5WDG2 WS Pro
CPU: E6300 Retail Box
Ram: GSKILL DDR2 800 HZ
Power: Zippy 850W
VGA: Matrox G450 PCI
http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/WSPRO-473.JPG
I can't wait for conroe, I hope more people hit these speeds with the 6300.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ut41/31ghz.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...19secsuper.jpg
These are my results with it ... no where near 32m pi stable but enough to get a decent 1m super pi run out of it. having trouble getting any more than this out of the chip tho.
Running on a 975xbx intel with ballistix ddr2
What cooling are you using to get the 3.3ghz stable? im on a tunic tower 120... think i may benifit from water!
Seems like a really solid board :up:
Quote:
Originally Posted by mupets_revenge
I also use tower 120 and I have no any water cooling.
muppet what RAM timings you got? My 6300 is 100mhz slower then yours and i get 1s faster in SuperPi 1M
Nice result!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreYang
What vmch you used for 473 fsb?
Quote:
Originally Posted by ilgreco1974
Bios max 1.8V
2 Qs andreyang:
1. do u work for Asus, Intel.. ?? :)
2. is this the same one on newegg?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131591
its listed as Core 2 Duo supported board, but .. dont trust the egg ...
No, that is ASUS P5WDG2-WS. You can see there is no heat-pipe on the Neweggs board.Quote:
Originally Posted by theteamaqua
http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?m...3&l2=82&l3=249
hmmm those times seem a bit impossible...........what tweaks have you used........unless you ran them one at a time but even then the times are prettu fast.......need some answers here plsQuote:
Originally Posted by AndreYang
yup , that dual pi run seems a bit too fast ...
what tweaks you used there andre ?!
Please test max fsb with conroe 6600 or 6700!
Thx
Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Why impossible?
Japanese has some secrets which are running PI quickly.:)
Quote:
Originally Posted by theteamaqua
1. My friend is ASUS Product Manager. So I can get ASUS any product first.
2. It's old WS, not WS Pro.
DS4 is good too!! no mod. either!
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/attachments...doeMl65XOq.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by kenofstephen
Can you Crossfire or use 7950 GX2?:nono:
And gigabyte 965chip super pi is slower than 975x.
Actually they're not much slower but sure there's a difference.
You could probably run SLI with hacked drivers on DQ6?
that pi time is 1 second slower than my E6600 at 3.4ghz.. are ur almost 3.8ghz...
hmm
When will these boards ship in the USA?
Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
I'm not sure.
Taiwan and Japan are already available in the market.
Whats about memory dividers, is on this better than Asus P5W DH?
Quote:
Originally Posted by OBR
WS Pro and P5W64 already opened memory ""Read Delay"".
If you use Read Delay=7, you will be easy to oc FSB400 DDR2 1000 CL=4.
well it's possible as you've posted it but damn i can't believe it dudeQuote:
Originally Posted by AndreYang
i wanna know what you've done....don't worry about japs :p:
just got a message from
a big german retailer
available mid august (WS Pro ) so I hope next week
thanks andre for your review
dual pi 32M 15m47 sec @3,3 mmmhhh ..unbeaten a.t.m.
I buyed it already in Austria...Quote:
Originally Posted by mine
someone has the ICH7 Raid drivers for XP 64-bit for that board?
=> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=706
Someone can help? :)
Thx a lot
I have the P5WDG2-WS board and I use Intel 82801GR/GH SATA RAID Controller for my RAID 0 with XP x64.Quote:
Originally Posted by commy
http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scri...9&submit=Go%21
Do you have a address where you bought the PRO version?
Hi to all
I have two question about this motherboard:
1- what happen if I put a normal PCI card in a PCI-X slot? Can I force the other PCI-X slot to go with the full bandwidth?
2- Is possible put a Pcie x1 card in the second Pcie x16 slot? If yes the first Pcie x16 slot will drop to x8?
Thanks
Ugo
Quote:
Originally Posted by ugo1
1. PCI-X Support normal PCI slot.
2. If you use 2X PCIE, it would be 8X+8X.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ugo1
Adding to what AndreYang said, with most boards if you put a normal 32bit 33mhz PCI card in any PCI-X slot it will put all the slots to that same speed/mode. There were some server boards that had a single PCI-X slot on a seperate controller so you could do what it sounds like you are asking for. But in a board like this I'm sure all the PCI-X slots are on the same controller.
Thanks for the replies
Ugo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon
Hi!
Sure: www.lammer-shop.at
Cheers
did you run those 32M superPI windows at the same time or one at a timeQuote:
Originally Posted by AndreYang
here is a single 32M on my system................i just don't see how you could shave off another 2+ minutes off dual time hmm :p:
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/497...m45781sru5.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/9...i17m49sxw3.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
Mine came in the mail today! :banana:
When my E6600 comes in I will add my results to this thread :)
natalia, flash to this bios when you get up and running, http://edu.tchsien.com/CBB/coolaler/...S-PRO-0004.rar and then in chpiset options in the bios, set "read delay" to 7 for best results. ;) good luck!Quote:
Originally Posted by Natalia
where did you get that BIOS?Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
Andre Yang uploaded them for us!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ender17
notice the "coolaler" in the link. heheQuote:
Originally Posted by Ender17
niceQuote:
Originally Posted by orion23
what kind of OC do you have on that E6700?
Very simple. Look at the difference in FSB. Higher FSB on the same board will be faster than a lower FSB at the same cpu clock rate. His 32m is only a couple seconds slower than mine with my E6400 @ 3.6ghz with 450mhz FSB. His 1m beat mine by a little less than half a second.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
It's not really FSB that makes the difference in SuperPi, but rather memory speed. Andre was running at DDR2-946 versus dino's DDR2-834.
so according to you going from DDR2-834 to DDR2-946 will gain me another 2 minutes.............hehehehQuote:
Originally Posted by sierra_bound
No, that's not what I said. When all other things are equal, the system with higher memory speed will come out on top. Or maybe Andre is a better tweaker.;)
Sometimes raw power is more important. This is what I got after half a day with the P5WDG2 WS Pro. Air cooling.:)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/ds7510/4103.jpg
One other thing I forgot to mention. A 975X will crush a 965 board in 32M. I found that out with the P5B Dlx. Great for high FSB. But terrible for Pi, unless you get extreme clocks.
nice overclock thereQuote:
Originally Posted by sierra_bound
yeah i am just trying to understand what it is that he's using cause damn those times are incredible
it would be nice to get you to compare Asus P965 and 975X chipsets in SPI performance all else equal :)
PLEASE DO a comparison between the WS Pro and P5B DlxQuote:
Originally Posted by sierra_bound
SPI/3D :thumbsup:
Well, what I can tell you is my P5WDG2 WS Pro is better for 32M than my P5B Deluxe. But if high FSB is your thing, then stick with 965. I did run 32M with my 6600ES at 4400MHz (dry ice cooling) on the P5B and I was so shocked by the result that I didn't even bother to save it. My P5WDG2 WS Pro would have beaten the time with 400 less MHz.
I will try to run a comparison test in the near future.:)
yeah no worriesQuote:
Originally Posted by sierra_bound
would be interesting to know how much of a difference there really is :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
What is your mobo? 975x or 965?
965 is slower than 975x on the same speed, fsb and momery speed , especially gigabyte 965 is so slow.
gigabyte DS3
i will be testing Asus P5B Deluxe
it seems that this 965 motherboard is even faster than 975X boards or same as them
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=112875&page=2
Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
I don't think 965 is faster than 975x. 965 always use high memory fsb, so it seems faster. If 965 use the same fsb and memory fsb, 975x would be faster than 965.
fair enoughQuote:
Originally Posted by AndreYang
what would the difference be between Asus P5B D and DH/WS
Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
P5B Deluxe memory 4:5 has some problems, but WS Pro never has this problems.
And P5B-D use E6600~X6800 is not stable than 975x. But E6300 E6400 use P5B-D oc to FSB 500 memory 1:1 is so stable. That is why I use 975x test E6600~X6800.
So I recommend E6300 E6400 choose P5B-D and E6600~X6800 choose 975x mobo.
4mb cache maybe? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pandamonia
coolaler has both X6800 and E6600 stable past 530MHz FSB on P5B Deluxe :confused: many users are clocking conroe and having very strong results unlike DS3 with conroe.........Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreYang
i can understand if WS is just a more stable board above all boards but don't know if its fair to say 975X vs 965 in that particular comparison alone
Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
You only see 32M or 1M, but you never see Prime 95 7/24. P5B-D is easy to run 32M or 1M for E6600~X6800 , but prime 95 is not.
WS can use CF or PCI-X. Some people still need that, so it still has market.
I will test ASUS New 965 mobo P5B-E next week. P5B-E price is about 110~130 USD. Maybe it will have big market if it can be easy overclock high fsb.
oh i agree with you completely on WS Pro >>> it's the best there is
i'm just letting you know that this particular 965 motherboard is pretty with conroe as well in light of comments made about conroe/allendale overclocks and daily usage
coolaler did prime at 540MHz FSB for a brief time but i can understand if it won't last long at 540 as chipset must be screaming hot
Quote:
Originally Posted by coolaler
To dinos22:
I compare with your E6400 417*8. The same speed, FSB and memory fsb. I never tweak any memory. I just set on the bios.
You can see this speed. What is different?
My WS Pro is in my case, so I use another 975x to compare with your E6400 Super Pi.
Single PI
http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/E6400-417-1.JPG
Dual PI
http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/E6400-417-2.JPG
Andre...he is from Australia...like me (not Australia), he has a harder time seeing the light!:D
LOL
yeah 1 minute difference in dual really is way too much.........i've gotta do some testing on the P5B Deluxe to see whether dual PI on deluxe is any different
that's due to maxmem = 600M tweak hehQuote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
i'll test this mirracle maxmem tweak as well to see what the deal is thereQuote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
I agree with u.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
I am confused as to the correct model name.
Someone said earlier that newegg had the wrong board.
Is this the correct one?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131039
Andrew
yep, it's the good one. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by aamsel
Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
I hate to ask this.. but how do I flash to that BIOS?
afudos.exe from a floppy or cd boot disk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Natalia
afudos /ifilename /n /pbnc
make sure the "i" before the file name.
I used the windows asus utility xD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Natalia
Floppy is dead. Use AsusUpdate.
Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeBar
AsusUpdate won't install:
"NT service registry error! Please reboot NT and run again"
"No ASUS motherboard"
"Installation will be abooted now"
Yeah, they spelled aborted wrong :p
Asus makes nice MB's but there software stinks.
Andre,
Do you think the P5W64 PRO will match the fsb of P5WDG2 PRO?
Some people are thinking P5W64 may not be as stable because of no 8 pin power, but atm only you know the truth..
regards
raja
It has 8 pin power:Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=109572
The other four are coverd if you want to use a 4 pin connector.
Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
P5W64 is the same for WS Pro FSB and 8 pin power, only different PCI-X and PCI-E.
I just got the P5WDG2 WS Professional. I have 2 XFX 7900GTX's and when I install the driver here, and select to turn on SLI, after it reboots, Windows doesn't show any image, my monitor goes black as if there was no source at all to it. I am using a flexible SLI bridge Ranger gave me from his P5WD2 Premium.(Might have been a P5WD2-E(975X))
Why won't this work:confused:
When is the P5W64 due?
Mine was doing the same thing, but I was trying to run Quad SLI, I might try the two 7800GTs, to see if it does that as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Natalia
There are the PEG settings in the BIOS which may also assist. I saw somewhere else a mention of them.
Cheers,
AP.
Quote:
Originally Posted by apfubar
What do I do to the PEG settings?
EDIT:
Found one that works:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=113613
Also, what is the max temperature I can run the CPU at when Orthos is running? My machine turned off when ASUS probe clicked 65C, is that the cut-off?
Hi guys,
I must be doing something wrong here because my PFWDG2 WS Pro board won't go over 377MHz FSB??
Using 0004 BIOS (Coolaler's)
2Gb OCZ Titanium PC8000, running 1:1, 5-5-5-15
X6800 @ 2.64GHz 7x multi
Is there a key BIOS setting I need to disable/enable to get a higher FSB?
Quote:
Originally Posted by SLi_dog
Some X6800 has FSB BIOS bug, such as my X6800 and my friend X6800 cannot over 390+ on Bios set.
Quote:
Originally Posted by SLi_dog
you have read delay set at 7 in chipset mem timings?
No, 65 is not the cut off per se,, but it sounds like something is stressing your overclock. What vcore are your running at?Quote:
Originally Posted by Natalia
Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
Right now I am running at 1.4 vcore, and front side bus of 370. When runng Orthos after 12 hours, the temperature was 58C from ASUS Probe.
Oh, and not sure if this is at all relevant, but when I check the CPU temperature in the BIOS I am usually around 27C.
I am running 1.4, because I was told that going over that is not good/safe/etc. for a 24/7 type of setup.
Maybe that's my problem, it will always boot at 375MHz but fails sometimes at 377MHz and never boots any higher, what windows program do you use to get it to 470Mhz, Crystalmark? It would be my luck to get a dodgy chip, then again it could be user error :slapass: :(Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreYang
Yeah, that and setting trfc to 42 allowed me to get it up to the ASUS Ai booster max setting of 450MHz before it locked up from what I think was overheating. I can get it stable (I think) at 410MHz in windows but I'll keep trying higher.Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
Have you tried Core Temp? I prefer that to ASUS probe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Natalia
http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com...opic.php?t=137
Yeah, the temp is usually one 1C higher than ASUS Probe.
Quote:
Originally Posted by SLi_dog
I only say X6800 and I didn't use X6800 to oc 470+.
E6300~E6700 is no FSB problems.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Natalia
Asus probe turns the comp off once it hits 65c, just use core temp! :)
I get a difference of around 10C higher with core temp under load.Quote:
Originally Posted by Natalia
That's a great picture of you in your avatar BTW :D , Gday from Australia :ocau: ;)
AndrewYang or xgman, can you save your CMOS settings using the BIOS program and post a link to it? Let me know which BIOS you're using and I'll load the CMOS file and see if I can get the same FSB as you with your settings.
New bios: 0307
ftp://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/s...S-PRO-0307.zip
P5WDG2 WS Pro
Thanks :) but I've tried 0206, 0307 and am using 0004 now as it allows CPU multi higher than 11x.Quote:
Originally Posted by nFo
From the BIOS O.C Profile utility, you can save the current CMOS settings to disk. If someone with this board unmodded and an FSB over 400Mhz could do that and send it to me I'd be very gratefull. Please also let me know the BIOS you're using as it wont load otherwise.
When I flashed to the new bios from 0004 my asus probe temps went up 10c+Quote:
Originally Posted by SLi_dog
I run:
1.8vmch
1.5vfsb
and I can do over 400+ FSB.
Make sure you are running enough vore for your cpu to get that fsb!
I've been tweaking all weekend and almost seem to be going backwards?Quote:
Originally Posted by fhpchris
I'm using 0004 BIOS.
If I use FSB 300x12 I can get to 3.6GHz dual 32M stable with 1.5vmch and 1.4vfsb (on auto setting the comp uses 1.38v but I use 1.4 just in case of Vdroop) so I don't think it's a lack of Vcore. (I've tried settings up to 1.5vcore just in case)
PC won't boot at 327x11 with 1.5vmch and can only complete a single 32M run at 1.7vmch. It will occasionally boot 360x10 at 1.7 but not stable and at 1.8vmch it will boot to windows but won't complete a single 32M run. (please note I am dropping the RAM dividers when changing FSB so as to not over reach on my RAM)
I've disabled all the automatic thermal reduction features in BIOS, I've raised the tRD from 7 through to 13, I've tried upping the tRFC to 42 and still no stable results. In fact, I seem to be going backwards.
I'm really only used to AMD CPUs so maybe there is something blindingly obvious with getting Intel systems to a high FSB that I'm unaware of.
I found that my board overvolts Vcore something shocking, sorry about the pun :D. I can run 3.6GHz at 1.4v dual 32m stable but to get that I have to set the CPU VCore Voltage to 1.35V in BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Natalia
Maybe try that and see if it's stable, it should drop the temps.
Is there any way to increase the boot time from the USB recognition to the point wher the XP logo shows?
wats that program in ur picture called ? it shows vcore,cpu,mb and other things. http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/WSPRO-473.JPG
I would only use these dividers:Quote:
Originally Posted by SLi_dog
1:1
4:5
2:3
at 1.5v core bios I could easily prime @ 3100 mhz(~345fsb) and passed a dual 1m @ 3300 mhz(~367 fsb)
at 1.6v core bios I could easily prime at 3600(~400fsb) and dual 32m @ 3700(412 fsb)
Make sure your ram isnt walling and you are not using the overclocked dividers.(the dividers that overclock your northbridge-- like 712 divider @ 266 fsb)
It's the latest version of ASUS probe.Quote:
Originally Posted by faith4
Just so everyone is clear on this, the northbridge strap serves as a baseline for the CPU to establish its own frequency. It's not the same thing as a memory strap. A lot of former AMD users seem a little confused about this. Bad Axe users are probably more aware of all of this because there are NB strap settings in the BIOS.
How do you set a northbridge strap with this motherboard? I'm guessing it's the DRAM frequency??? I've tried different settings with that and still no luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by sierra_bound