Well...every other Conroe mobo seems to be getting at least one thread so... has anyone got this? How does it do?
Cheers :)
Kenny
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Well...every other Conroe mobo seems to be getting at least one thread so... has anyone got this? How does it do?
Cheers :)
Kenny
By next week a couple of us should have it
Well Coolaler managed to do quite well with a Kentsfield on it...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...light=msi+975x
Oh...sorry..didnt know that was exactly the same one :rolleyes: :slap:
Not bad indeed :)
Not sure with Conroe yet though, I pm'ed Coolaler about 975 boards that could hit 450fsb, he recommended the Intel 975XBX, so I'm not sure what the MSI can manage on Conroe...
MSI has a 370fsb wall right now - but for kentsfield its the best performer out there in terms of FSB and a unlocked multiplier BIOS should be available soon for ES cpu's - mine will be here Monday ;)
I'm ordering one soon along with an E6600. I'm not looking to overclock this time round. Just have a stable, high performing, low heat producing system.
I'm choosing this board becaue it has 2 IDE connectors in the RIGHT place unlike the P5W DH Deluxe which has one IDE connector under the PCI slot - how gay.
Here is coolalers Conroe on the MSI 975 2B
http://www.iamxtreme.net/coolaler/WR/4450_1M.gif
I don't remember if this is a kentsfield being read wrong or just a conroe.
EDIT:
Another by coolaler
http://www.iamxtreme.net/coolaler/WR/WR4.gif
What cooling was used to achieve those results?
No they are proper Conroe results the Kentsfiedl deffo hits a wall at 370mhz FSB
The Power Up is version 2.1 :)
I'd guess a SS was used for that. I've come really close to getting an E6600 and MSI board as well...
I contatcted a friend of mine in the industry, like Mav said the MSI is definatley stuck at 370 with Conroe.
Hummm probally a bios issue.
If MSI has a 370 FSB wall on Conroe, why did coolaler pass it?
Sure doesn't seem like a wall to me.
I believe coolaler used ESQuote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
they already have a newer bios out then what it ships with so that could easily solve the problem
Could solve or does solve?
cant confirm as I dont have my chip yet to put in the bad boy and try it
Hopefully we will see more benches with retail chips soon.
http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggIma...130-051-04.JPG
Anyone have a better pic than this?
LOL, I have the CPU...But waiting for the board:p:Quote:
cant confirm as I dont have my chip yet to put in the bad boy and try it
picture shows 2.1 version, I think there will not be any A or B version, the 2.1 will be the new retail 975x platinum which support conroe aka power up edition
Cool, looking forward to your results... if you get close to 400 I'm getting one too! :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Core2Extremist
Pics shamelessly stolen from Coolaler (I think):
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/suman.g...owerup - 1.JPG
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/suman.g...owerup - 2.JPG
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/suman.g...owerup - 3.JPG
Thats what I think too. I think the pics which have A or B are not retail boards at all, just pics MSI put but never updated to the latest images.Quote:
Originally Posted by egyteam
Layout is perfect except I don't like the 8 pin and 4 pin connectors on the other side of the board like that. I like how DFI put all the connections on the right side of the board so power wires didn't hang over. Made for a clean look. Again the 2 IDE connectors are a plus. If I get to 3.5-3.8 gaming stable on my e6700 with this board I will be happy untill DFI makes a better board...If they make a better board;)
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/suman.g...up%20-%201.JPG
anyone know if the 4 Pin 12V will work without problems or it is better to use 2x4 adapter ?
So you are saying that the version I bought from ewiz, one that supports conroe, is the V2.1?Quote:
Originally Posted by egyteam
I hope the bios is mature enough for 400+ FSB???
Im also pretty sure Ewiz is selling the 2.1...Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottFern
IMHO, if Coolaler passed 370 and got to 460FSB with this board..its nothing to do with the CPU...the memory controller is on the board so......
I`m ready bo buy, wish I could find a board with no major problems and good OC ability. Bet a lot of you are in the same boat.
This looks a nicely laid out board, and I can pick one up at a local store to me. This bit on there web site is a bit of a worry though... MSI Reminds you: Please use MSI Live BIOS tool to upgrade BIOS of this product.
Does that mean it wont work with conroe out of the box like Asus P5W DH?
If ya got em at a local store...could ya ask them to flash the BIOS for ya to make sure? :)
check this link here for mods, Kyosen could not get past 460, so it seems ok. I dunno how far it goes stock though. You will have to register on Onepagebook's forum to see them though..
http://www.ocxtreme.org/forumenus/showthread.php?t=2223
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Originally Posted by raju
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would the e6300 or e6400 be a good choice for this board?
what brand / speed ddr2 is recommended?
would like to o/c some.
1/ depends on FSB capability
2/ depends on FSB capability
if ya get an E63 or E64...you`re guaranteed to get "some" extra out of the board...just depends on what kinda FSB the board generally does, and how fast ya learn it. RAM depends on dividers...no dividers mean 1:1 at best, so you`ll need some decent PC6400 minimum to OC any worthwhile amount
Will the 7950GX2 work with this board? If so, I think I'll get it.
that was already written in my post...Quote:
Originally Posted by RAGING DRAGON
Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
Must have skipped that line by mistake.
Anyhow, has anyone got a picture of the back panel of the MSI 975X PowerUP edition board?
I've looked but can't seem to find one. I really need to see it before I order it.
Thanks.
There is a layout of the back panel on page 2-10 of the manual which can be downloaded at MSI.Quote:
Originally Posted by RAGING DRAGON
that is the firewire header, the USB head is further down to the left of the bios chip and that green looking thing looks like a onboard power LED :eek: which has almost never been on a MSI board (at least the ones that i've owned). way to go MSI!Quote:
Originally Posted by RAGING DRAGON
Ha! You caught that just literally a couple of seconds before I deleted it as I was looking into it more detail and realised it was a firewire header after looking through the manual.Quote:
Originally Posted by aiya
There are two USB headers. The firewire header has been placed in an awkward position though you must admit.
it is, but it is doable with a audigy 2zs/X-Fi there.
this board looks nice, just i'm still debating to cross over or not. :rolleyes: :confused:
Ok I'm probably making this post a day early, but will the Thermalright Ultra-120 clear the northbridge heatsink? Or will an XP-90 with the RM adapter have to be used ?-.-
I noticed this motherboard has a few non-solid state capacitors? Does that matter or will it effect overclocking in anyway? I am no electrical engineer so I would like it if someone could explain it to me.
Thanks!
You can flash the BIOS with any removable bootable storage. For instance, I flash my MSI boards off USB thumb drives. Never use that Live Update crap, it sux.
That's great. I hate having to find my floppy drive and floppy cable and power adapter for the floppy drive. I really can't wait to get this board.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickS
i just checked eWiz and they don't have the MSI 975x Plat. V.2 on there anymore... i wonder why...
10am eastern time I ordered the MSI and E6400 from them, maybe they finally ran out of their first batch. Price was pretty good. Hope to see mine in a few days.Quote:
Originally Posted by aiya
yea, much to my irritation though, I found that if you went through froogle to get the MSI 975@eWiz, it was 185 instead of 190.55 the other night :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by RacerX
My order is still in "processing stage" and I ordered on Saturday. I wonder if this is even going to ship today or maybe they are stalling because they are out?
you ordered f/ eWiz? If it doesn't say in warehous in your ewiz account, I would think that they are stalling....:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottFern
I ordered fri. evening and received a tracking # today, but ups doesn't have it on file yet...
I have mine in hand from Newegg:) I can't get to testing till Tues though:mad:
I will be using a retail e6700 and some Patriot PC 8000XBLK.
Will be looking forward to some pics and benches tomorrow nite.:toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by rodman
I will be finding that at soon :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
cant wait to find out
I'm going to be getting this motherboard to go with my E6300. I'm hoping for an easy 3.2 ghz.
I still dont understand this about this board perhaps someone can clear it up, it has a 4 pin peripherial JPWR and says it is used to provide power to the pciex16 graphics card. Why exactly do you need this connection since most high end cards have their own power connector? Manual says its also a MUST to provide stability of the board.
Did you email MSI tech support about this issue? Good question though!Quote:
Originally Posted by Core2Extremist
If you're talking about the Molex connector, that's becoming more and more common on boards. You'll find one on the Intel Bad Axe, as well as on the DFI NF4 boards. A lot of people don't use it.
I don't think that 4 pin is essential for the board to work.
His post says "4 pin peripherial JPWR". That would be the Molex.
I'm puting everything together and a few notes so far. I like the clear cmos button, no more pins;) Also the manual says you MUST connect all 3 power connections. I will be using a IDE hard drive so I hope that does not cause any issues. This board has bios 710, I was told 711 is the best, we will see. My next post should be on the new rig.
Quote:
Originally Posted by rodman
Congratz. Nice features. CLR CMOS button instead of using a jumper.
As for connecting all 3 power connections as a must let us know if it still lets you run as normal without plugging it in(which it should do).
I should have 1 arriving tomorrow, so hopefully i`ll be right behind ya rodman :)
common rodman its almost been an hour:D
please put some pics up, that would be great:cool:
I would like to see this boards results,just about had enough with this ds3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gun_Strife
Same.Quote:
Originally Posted by mearle73
I can tell you that being an AMD person all of these years, the 4 pin molex is pretty much standard on all AMD boards that have 2 pci-e 8x or 2 pci-e 16x slots. It's used to provide extra power to those slots when SLI or Cross Fire is being utilized. Yes, the video cards have their own pci-e power connectors, but I look at it his way, if the board manufacturers are putting them on their boards, they must be there for a reason. It doesn't hurt anything to plug a molex connector into it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottFern
The Abit board I'm using (AN8 32X) has it, as did the DFI SLI-DR board. I always plug into it and have never experienced any issues.
Shawn
bios 710 huh, cool I thought it came with 6 for some reason, but bios 711 is out? Where did you find that cuz the only one I see on Msi.com.tw is 7.0 and it says thats the "new" one under the update description.
What happened to rodman?
im totally with you there(well cept being sick of ds3, havent played with it yet) but i love msi and believe this will be a great boardQuote:
Originally Posted by mearle73
My board from Ewiz should be here in the next few hours. Hopefully its V2.1 and everything goes smoothly. This is my first time using an MSI board or an MSI product. Are MSI boards generally good quality or good OCers?
I really need to see how this board does soon as i have everything else and my E6600 is getting lonely :P.
Even video cards that have their own molex still pull juice from the PCI-E slot. Usually it doesnt warrant that extra on-mobo molex. Of course there are still cards that pull all their power through the PCI-E slot. Its just an ATX standard that the mobo has to be able to provide a certain amount of power through the PCI-E slot. Whether or not it is used on average is completely separate. Sticking the molex there allows less traces from the mobo power connector all the way to the PCI-E slot. Less traces = more room = more features for other crap :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Core2Extremist
Thought you guys might want to know that R-tech has the 2.1 boards in stock and for a reasonable price.
https://usm.channelonline.com/rtech/...?id=M003141721
I've worked with these guys in the past for software packages for the university I work for. They just started this online hardware store so they don't have any feedback. The sales rep Roger is really cool and tracked down which revision they carry of the MSI board. Should be here Friday.
MSI is a good company on boards. i've had 2 of their boards and they are both still running strong. the boards i have are AMD but i think they are the same on both sides in terms of quality and performance. both overclocked really well, took my 2500+ barton to 2.3ghz and my 3000+ venice to 2.7ghz all with ease. i have no doubt MSI is just as good on the Intel front.Quote:
Originally Posted by cupholder2.0
Just got off the phone with a nice young lady at Ewiz, seems they didn't update their website fast enough as I ordered yesterday thinking they had it in stock and seems they are now waiting for another shipment which she says they expect today.
Why do I have a feeling I won't be receiving my order from Ewiz this week:(
Sounds good. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by aiya
Im getting really inpatient here :mad: , UPS guys has been out for delivery since 3:20 AM LOL and hes still not here! :slapass: . I just can't wait to get off this POS mATX board I am using right now.
is there any way to tell what version the board is off the box? had mine since the first day the released them here last week so i doubt its anything but latest ver but still wanna check if there is a way.
The Sticker on mine says 601-7246-020**********
im wondering wether 601 is bios number, i know 7246 is the board number, and 020 is version 2, does anyones say 021 or anything like that?
ones selling at ncix are listed as part number MS-7246-020, cant tell which ones are on newegg.
why dont you just open it and check on the board
and again i say msi is a great company and ive never had any probs with their boards
I wont have my board tomorrow...supplier is messing me around. :(
Good idea Strife lol, yea its 2.1 as well for me, now is there a way to figure out the bios version from the board or the box?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gun_Strife
I agree on Msi being real good, I only trust their boards actually as I have been using them for like 8 years with never a single problem.
;) :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Core2Extremist
well im pretty sure there is no way to tell bios without powering it up, what are you missing thats stopping you, cpu?
i should be getting my 66 along with ds3 and msi, not sure msi ver thats why im grabbing both and am looking at pick up on friday/saturday
but i think if the msi board is ver2 i wont even bother with the ds3 and either not buy or sell it
eWiz decided to let me order the board with it being out of stock. They failed to notify me it was out of stock and the only reason I found out was because I cheched the status online. They now have it in stock but there's another dilema. Seeing as how I'm moving on Friday, unless I pay out the ass for shipping, there is no way I can get this board this week. :banana::banana::banana::banana: eWiz and their :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty inventory system.
It's in stock? where?Quote:
Originally Posted by Freez
it doesn't show up on their webpage at all.
What good is it being in stock when it's not even listed on their webpage-.-
Ok, I'm typing on the new rig and so far so good. I think the board is bios 700, hard to tell cuz the 0 kinda looks cut in half like a 1... Anyway I have to dig around for the chipset drivers as the ones on the disk did not list 975 as one of them:confused: I will be back with some benchmarks as soon as I figure out how to overclock an Intel board LOL. If anyone has questions they would like answered let me know.
can you tell me the first three numbers on the sticker off the front off your box? mine are 601, just tryin to figure out if those numbers reflect the bios.
it looks like this: S/N 601-7246-***********
Whats the distance in mm between the PCIe slots ;)
Hi all,
Just buy 975x PowerUp Edition, and Allendale 6300.
In my box s/n is :601-7246-020K0607xxxxxx
Inches x 25.4 = mm :DQuote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
Remember what Coolaler said about the bios: btw,don't use BIOS 713, 711 it's ok
btw...where i can get bios 711? because my bios ver is still 700...
Mine starts with 601 as well. Memory defaults to 1.9 volts, however it was enough to get my ram to post.
yea rodmans back
we been waiting for you, if you dont mind could you take some pics please
1.9v is better than 1.8v
whats the max for ram volts
also dont forget to change ur sig
Max FSB that can be selected is 550, lol.
http://forum.coolaler.com/showthread.php?t=132220Quote:
Originally Posted by 4n70n
Thanks....will try it :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by dogsx2
Umm, I really don't want to open up the case and try to measure that, lol. I can tell you it is 2 standard pci slots apart and the PCIe would be the 3rd one.. More than enough room for watercooling cards and stuff.Quote:
Whats the distance in mm between the PCIe slots
i dont really wanna bug but could you give us some results please im dying here
I'm downloading a bunch of stuff including Dark Messiah demo. I'm a noob when it comes to overclocking Intel chips. Any help would well...Help. I checked the max voltage for cpu and it's 1.58, ram is 2.4. I think I know what to do but the ram thing is messing with me. On auto the ram is 667, on 1to1 its 533:confused: Is there anything I need to know other than FSB, Ram speed and timings and voltages on both. I thought there were a few other things to consider wile overclocking on an Intel chip. Give me a little push here people. Also how are you stress testing duel core cpus, Super PI seems to use only one, I never liked Prime. What do you people run for a stress test for 24/7 gaming rig?
thats cause at 1:1 and stock speeds fsb is 266 so ram is at 266x2=533
if you boot fine at 1:1 now just raise fsb for now you should be able to raise fsb to 333 and would give ur ram the 667(stock speed for it i believe)
also give full specs ram cpu gpu ect
o you might wanna raise ur cpu volts in bios but i think you should try and set ram 1:1 and in bios change fsb to 333 without changing volts on anything