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Just been trying to to get a retail E6700 to run together - but only been running into a 360mhz FSB wall - regardless of CPU multiplier.
Either the CPU or the board has a FSB wall @ ~ 360mhz.
With E6600 the FSB wall is at 500mhz FSB - but with the 6700 all is pain...
Running latest Bios F3E - and I have about had it with this board :slapass:
At least you got your E6700 in after all. :shrug:
Very very strange indeed...:-/ :(
**With E6600 the FSB wall is at 500mhz FSB **
What makes you think this???? :confused:
probably he tested as suchQuote:
Originally Posted by RichUK
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...8&postcount=29Quote:
Originally Posted by RichUK
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Originally Posted by eva2000
Thanks Eva + Kesnel - you're right, indeed I did test the board with a E6600 and managed to get the FSB up to 500mhz FSB
With the E6700 I tried with any possible combination and setting to get to a somewhat fun overclock but even with 6X, 7X, 8X, 9X and 10X multiplier nothing would allow me to get either the CPU? or Gigabyte over the 360FSB limit.
It's too early to tell - but until I have the time to test the E6700 on a better board - I rather tend to think it's the 965 DQ6's problem
Haven't had my E67 long and it seems to be doing the same thing, Mike, and in a different board. It's a B2 rev|6 gen. I am stuck with 360 currently. I have just been using a 10x multi though.
Where have you guys been?
I needed this kind of imput for the past few days.
I've had my E6700 retail since last monday and I cannot get past the 360-380 FSB wall.
I've tried every single thing in the book (mine is a short one) and I'm about to give up mysel.
I can do 350 pretty stable, and I have completed 3dm06 @ 3.7ghz and 3.8ghz
(370FSB & 380FSB) but rebooting the PC is always a gamble with anything past 350FSB for me.
Wasn't it discussed that 965 chips are having a problem with 4 mb cache chips?
Didn't I see a thread about this?
Yes there was a thread. But then how would you explain the 500MHz FSB on an E6600 above?Quote:
Originally Posted by Phosphate
Any of these CPUs been tested in a 975 as well as the 965s?
You might have to vmod the mobo :shrug:
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Originally Posted by Mule
I guess we need someone with a different 965P make or a 975X board to test a retail E6700 to see what or whose problem this is!:stick:
Yeah, but he was using 6X multiplier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kesnel
I know I don't have to tell anyone this, but just because you can get 500 fsb on 6x doesn't mean you can get it on 10x because then the CPU (not the mobo) becomes the limiting factor.
sorry to hear about this mike.
if you got 500 with a 6600, then sell me the board my 6600 is screaming for some 500mhz love!!
Just a bad chip. For every monster overclocker on these boards there's someone else with a Conroe that can't even do 3GHz. GamePC ran a review today and mentioned they couldn't even get their 6400 above 2.9GHz lol, meanwhile my own 6400 hits 3.7GHz easily on air, as it does for multiple other XS members.
Luck of the draw.
Ironically the 6700 I also have maxes out at the idental core speed as my 6400, 3.7GHz, but the FSB is only at 370MHz on it versus the 6400 being at 450MHz to hit the same speed.
Thats makes the 6400 the faster of the two most likely :o
I experimented with that, wondering if the faster FSB of the 6400 could overcome the 4MB cache of the 6700, and out of ten synthetic and real world benchmarks the 6400 was able to tie/win in three. The other seven it lost...but not by much. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by 775911
F it. I had to remove this board from my case to even install the darn CPU because of the Ninja HS. Windows will start loading @ 10 x 380|3.8GHz then it always crashes. I can boot 3.6 and then set 3.8 GHz with clockgen, and it's very unstable, yet won't crash for a while. Setting 3.9 GHz = a straight up freeze. I may play with volts and see if I can get 3.7 GHz. It's real odd because 3.6 GHz is smooth like it's @ 3.0GHz. Something else may be up that I am missing. I am also going to replace my HSF with one that does 2.2k RPMs instead of 1.4k.
I know my X2 4400+ behaved like that. It did fine up to a point then you had to pile on volts to get from 2.7 to 2.84GHz.
Mike try loosening the fit of your cooling..................i've noticed that at certain "bend" the DS3 performs worse and if extreme it doesn't even boot
That is wonderful news. Thanks! I was hoping the additional FSB I've used to overclock my E6300 would help make up for the cache deficiency.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mako88
Did you test with DIVX or X264 encoding times? Encoding seems to be the biggy when it comes to cache size.
if E6500 scales well 4MB Cache CPUs are in for a show on air cooling heheh
got another board to test E6700 retail to confirm ?
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Originally Posted by Phosphate
Like Mike wrote above..he already tryed with all the multi´s on the 6700 :)
same here, e6700 + ds3 simply sucks!:slapass:
DQ6+4x512Mb 8000UL+930(E6600 in future)+scythe ninja - crap.
Tomorrow will sell it, and going to buy p5w dh or waiting for p5b
I am going to hang on to what I have now and am definitely going to try an E6400 later on a mature board.
He was only able to get 360 FSB with the 6x multiplier on the e6700, but when he used e6600 with the same board he git 500 fsb? Maybe it is this specific CPUs problem then?Quote:
Originally Posted by SIOUX
DS3 + e6700 , crappyyyyyyyyyyy also
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Originally Posted by eva2000
finally tested on badaxe - turns out Retail E6700 has FSB WALL - argh!!!
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Originally Posted by mikeguava
hiya mike yes it seems the step 5 es chips intel sent out its premium silicon to be reviewed as i have been looking around and it seems none of the retail conroes can match the step 5 b1 conroe es, i have just got a e6700 es step 5 to replace my e6600es step 5 as i have the dfi infinity and the motherboard itself has a 400fsb wall
so no matter what u get , 6700 , 6600 they are all around 3.5 , 3.6GHz..Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeguava
hmmm, that makes my E6400 3.4GHz kinda worth it
i think with better board we can get much closer to 4GHz with good air/watercooling
hell, fcg could only get to 4.5GHz with E6700 ES5 !!! ES5, thats liek better than retail, also he has phase change cooling ...
6400 seems to be the best bang for the buck right now. E6600 being stuck at 360 fsb limits me too 3.2 ghz.
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Originally Posted by foch3 -USA-
actually have to revise myself again,
finally getting the Retail 6700 to boot up to 4.4GHZ ( 440FSB ) without pushing too hard on a single stage on the Badaxe - had corrupted the clockgen on the BadAxe earlier and jumped to wrong conclusion.
hi mike what volts are you using for 4ghz plus
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Originally Posted by GLENBOY
so far around 1.57V - maybe less is needed - just looking into it
thanks for that mike , i have just got a sep 5 e6700 es to replace my e6600 es as my motherboard has a 400fsb wall (dfi infinity ) so thats good news