DQ6 - new build problems

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08-04-2006, 08:47 AM
Richard Dower

DQ6 - new build problems

OK so i setup the Gigabyte DQ6 with a Celeron D 326 as my E6600 has STILL not shipped from Overclockers.co.uk (scumbags).

My memory is G.SKILL 2GB ZX kit, here are my observations:
The board comes with F2 bios, i install the ZX kit and it would not POST, it would power up (fans spin up) and power down, in a continious cycle.

So i knew what to expect, had a 256MB stick of Nanya DDR2 4200 ready, installed and the PC boot. Once i entered bios i change the VDIMM to 0.4V, that's 2.2V on the ZX.

G.SKILL tech told me 2.2V is OK for this memory, but my problems start here and the Intel 965 chipset and how to install a SATA optical drive?

I've got a Plextor 716SA and it's connected to thr Intel SATA2 port, but if i try setup a RAID array and have the SATA optical on the yellow Intel SATA connectors the RAID array disappears from the boot sequence in bios?

I've tried everything possible but for some reason i cannot use a two drive RAID 0 on ports 0/1 and install the SATA optical drive on port 2?

I don't understand why this is happening as Intel dropped IDE and SATA optical should work...can anyone offer advice?
08-04-2006, 08:51 AM
Richard Dower

Dq6 - Hot Hot Hot!

OUCH! :( , man this board runs HOT, you could fry an egg on this thing. The Northbridge gets VERY hot, Southbridge is a little cooler...the Gigabyte SATA2 chip (Jmicro) !!!...smoldering hot!

That chip need a heatsink on it, it gets very hot to the touch....the MOSFETS are also warm, think somr sir cooling might be needed, like an SI-128 or something blowing down.

Board is lovely, but it's still early days for me yet :)

Thread 2 merged - bachus_anonym
08-04-2006, 08:54 AM
K404

Mind if I ask how the BIOS is? :)
08-04-2006, 10:15 AM
xgman

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here is what I did to mine to try to keep it a bit cooler.
08-04-2006, 10:30 AM
dandragonrage

Is it HOT HOT HOT! or cold?
HOT HOT HOT! or cold?

Sounds like you need to do some custom heatsinking there.
08-05-2006, 11:39 AM
Richard Dower

DQ6 - RAID and SATA optical issues

I have a Gigabyte GA-965P-DQ6 using the F3e beta bios and a temporary Intel Celeron D 326 overclocked to 3Ghz. My issue is with the Intel RAID bios and setting up a RAID array + using a Plextor 716SA SATA optical as a boot drive.

Basically they don't work together and i have tried everything, if i disbale the Intel RAID option in bios my Plextor is detected and so are both my Western Digital Raptors 74GB ADFD drives with 16MB cache, firmware 00NLR1.

I can install Windows XP on one of the Raptors + i am able to boot + install Windows from the SATA optical drive. But if i enable the RAID option and setup a RAID 0 array and also plug in my Plextor into one of the yellow Intel SATA ports the RAID array dissapears from the boot sequence and the RAID array is no longer detected?

If i plug the Plextor out again the RAID array is detected and i can boot from said RAID array...can anyone offer any explanation or is there some bios settings or ports i should be using?

:confused: :(

Thread 3 merged - bachus_anonym
08-05-2006, 11:45 AM
Lestat

you have to install the raid drivers when you install xp

when you boot to the cd you'll see a message at the bottom of the screen saying Press F6 to isntall alterante drivers

wel..... hit F6 a few times and then you will be prompted for the drivers.

you need to have the raid drivers on a floppy. which can be done using the gigabyte cd and creating a boot floppy.

you've never seen nor heard of this before ???

sata drives go in the standard sata ports. not the raid ports.
08-05-2006, 04:52 PM
Richard Dower

Lestat, i've installed a RAID array many times on many boards since the Gigabyte Granite Bay board. I know about F6 and the RAID drivers. I have the Plextor 716SA connected to the JMicron controller and i use that as my boot drive to install Windows XP and the OS copied.

I have a floppy and the drivers, i load the nesscary drivers off the floppy at the F6 stage. You are not getting what i am asking above at all.

The Intel 965P has 6 SATA ports, 0/1/2/3/4/5. I have the Raptors on ports 0/1, the Intel Matrix RAID bios displays when i have two drives installed and detected, i enter the RAID bios and create a RAID 0 stripe, the RAID array i set in the boot sequence.

I can install and use the RAID array OK, i am using it as i type. The PROBLEM is when you connect the SATA Plextor drive to one of the Intel SATA ports such as port 2 the already created RAID array DISAPPEARS.

The Intel Matrix RAID bios no longer appears and the RAID array is missing in the boot sequence and the bios completely, when i disconnet the Plextor it returns.

WHY is it not possible to have two drives in RAID and have a SATA optical drive connected also ?, when you enable the RAID option for Intel do all 6 ports only work for RAID/hard drives?...why can you not use say two ports for hard drives and two for SATA opticals?

My nForce4 Ultra motherboard had four SATA ports running over the nForce controller, they were split into two channels. When the first channel was enabled you could connect two hard drives and set RAID 0 and boot. The other channel and ports could be set to disable, as disable the RAID option, and they would allow SATA opticals to be connected.
08-05-2006, 05:05 PM
Richard Dower

DQ6 - memory observations (with G.SKILL)

As reported by others, G.SKILL memory will not boot on the DQ6 without voltage modification in bios first. As Lestat reported, the 2GB ZX kits needs 2.2V to just boot/get stable.

G.SKILL techs confirm it is safe to run said memory with 2.2.V, i have a cheap 256MB stick of Nanya DDR2 PC4200 memory. She allows for POST and bios modification, the voltage with the Nanya is 1.8V.

Set voltage manually to +0.400V (0.4V, standard 1.8 + .0.4 = 2.2V), manually change timings to 4-4-4-12 (this is nesscary and expalined below).

Be advised the memory gets very hot, i would recomend some air cooling such as this:

http://www.xoxide.com/neon-crab-memory-cooler.html

I have also heatsinks on the MOSFET's surrounding the DIMM slots and clock generators. There is also another quirk, if you leave the memory timings to Auto and look at CPU-Z it will at first report 4-4-4-12, other times it will report 4-3-3-10 and also 3-4-4-12...very weird.

So settings timings manually would be advised, and keep an eye on it to see if it changes. I'm using F3e and hopefully the bios will mature and fix some of the issues, it's a real PAIN to keep taking the memory out and swaping, and if you have to reset the bios for any reasons you'll have to start from scratch.

Thread 4 merged - bachus_anonym
08-05-2006, 05:28 PM
orion23

I have similar issues with my DDR2 800mhz 2GBHZ

I never had any problems getting into the bios, but I do get the DDR2V 1.8V FAIL error message under pc health status.

My timings also fly all over the place when left auto and EVEN if I set them to the default 4-4-4-12 manually, they sometimes become 3-5-5-15 or 3-4-4-12

I'll be testing some DDR2 800mhz CL4 4-4-4-12 by Corsair on monday evening and hopefully my problems will go away!
08-05-2006, 05:31 PM
Richard Dower

That's because the HZ allows for CAS 3, i think...i am undecided if it's a voltage issue or SPD data contained within the memory modules.

I also have the DDR2V 1.8 FAIL showing, anything over 1.8V shows a fail in red...i'm not worried about that, it's just notification.
08-05-2006, 05:31 PM
guess2098

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Dower

As reported by others, G.SKILL memory will not boot on the DQ6 without voltage modification in bios first. As Lestat reported, the 2GB ZX kits needs 2.2V to just boot/get stable.

G.SKILL techs confirm it is safe to run said memory with 2.2.V, i have a cheap 256MB stick of Nanya DDR2 PC4200 memory. She allows for POST and bios modification, the voltage with the Nanya is 1.8V.

Set voltage manually to +0.400V (0.4V, standard 1.8 + .0.4 = 2.2V), manually change timings to 4-4-4-12 (this is nesscary and expalined below).

Be advised the memory gets very hot, i would recomend some air cooling such as this:

http://www.xoxide.com/neon-crab-memory-cooler.html

I have also heatsinks on the MOSFET's surrounding the DIMM slots and clock generators. There is also another quirk, if you leave the memory timings to Auto and look at CPU-Z it will at first report 4-4-4-12, other times it will report 4-3-3-10 and also 3-4-4-12...very weird.

So settings timings manually would be advised, and keep an eye on it to see if it changes. I'm using F3e and hopefully the bios will mature and fix some of the issues, it's a real PAIN to keep taking the memory out and swaping, and if you have to reset the bios for any reasons you'll have to start from scratch.

i think you probably have early none-D9 HZ
08-05-2006, 05:32 PM
Richard Dower

0605, Micron D9.
08-05-2006, 05:34 PM
Richard Dower

DQ6 owners...show us Device Manager!

Anyone got screenies of Device Manager?...if possible System Devices, i wannna check if what others have with my own, thank you.
:)

Thread 5 merged - bachus_anonym
08-05-2006, 05:35 PM
guess2098

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Dower

0605, Micron D9.

wait
you have ZX
that is not D9
sry my bad
08-05-2006, 05:36 PM
Richard Dower

G.SKILL tech says ZX with 0605 and above are Micron D9, 0604 and below are Elpidia.
08-05-2006, 05:40 PM
Ace-a-Rue

are you saying the Plextor works ok on the JMicron controller without affecting your raid array that is on the Intel Sata ports???
08-05-2006, 05:48 PM
Richard Dower

Yes, the Jmicron controller is separate and uses it's own IRQ and resources, i am trying to use LESS resources and be able to disable the Jmicron controller and save resources.

The Jmircon also has everything set to DMA mode, no PIO issues here, SATA optical is running at DMA mode 4, ATA66.
08-05-2006, 05:51 PM
Richard Dower

FYI...the SATA optical is detected as a normal ATA optical drive, actually the Plextor 716A ( non SATA) did in fact run at ATA66, the 716SA use a bridge chip..it'll never run 150MB's anyways, no optical drive will.
08-05-2006, 06:03 PM
xgman

same problem with dq6 and corsiar 6400c3 :(
08-05-2006, 06:06 PM
sissy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Dower

Anyone got screenies of Device Manager?...if possible System Devices, i wannna check if what others have with my own, thank you.
:)

hope it helps
08-05-2006, 06:13 PM
sissy

richard id be a little bit wary of the intel raid as i original set mine up on that in raid 1 (DQ6) and tested the rebuild process by degrading the mirror and it wouldnt for the life of me let it rebuild. i even wiped a drive so it was total clean and it still wouldnt let me rebuild.

so in the end i started from scratch using the giga raid, done the same test as above and worked perfectly.

it may have been a bios issue as it was using F2 at the time i dont know but im certainly not taking that risk again on the intel controller.
08-05-2006, 06:17 PM
Richard Dower

Quote:

Originally Posted by sissy

hope it helps

Yes, all expect PCI-E Root Port 5...i assume that's for the Marvell PCI-E LAN controller.
08-05-2006, 06:21 PM
Richard Dower

I would also suggest the Intel RAID bios is immature.
08-05-2006, 06:36 PM
gotheb1ues

boots fine with my DQ6 541MHz 3-4-3-9 2.4v

http://imageshack.us]http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3...343924vit5.png
08-05-2006, 06:42 PM
BottomsUp

Quote:

Originally Posted by gotheb1ues

boots fine with my DQ6 541MHz 3-4-3-9 2.4v

http://imageshack.us]http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3...343924vit5.png

have you primed that stable? HZ does 1080 with 2.4?
08-05-2006, 07:06 PM
guess2098

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Dower

G.SKILL tech says ZX with 0605 and above are Micron D9, 0604 and below are Elpidia.

no you made mistake
is "5400" 2GBZX and "6400" 2GBHZ
6400 2GBZX is not D9
08-06-2006, 01:08 AM
Kesnel

Only promlem I'm having with the DQ6 regarding memory is that CPUZ cannot report the ratio or the frequency, not sure why this is as I'm using 1.35.

My HZ runs fine on it, only tested it to 510mhz at 4-4-4-x 2.2v though.
08-06-2006, 02:36 AM
Richard Dower

Same here, does not report ratio/frequency.
08-07-2006, 12:09 PM
Richard Dower

More DQ6 quirks

I have an issue with the Gigabyte DQ6 and the onboard JMicron JMB363 controller.

If you enable this device in bios and set it to IDE mode and look in Device Manager it shows up and standard Intel Primary/Secondary IDE channels/controller.

However, on Windows Update it shows a driver update from JMicron dated July 24th 2006, WHQL, version 1.14 driver.

If i install this driver i get 2 SCSI controller shows up and one has a yellow mark staing that the device cannot start, any idea what is going on?

Thread 6 merged! Please, try to keep it all in one thread, not create 6 separate threads within 2 days just to add another issue you're having with the board. Thanks! - bachus_anonym
08-07-2006, 02:56 PM
irev210

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Dower

I have an issue with the Gigabyte DQ6 and the onboard JMicron JMB363 controller.

If you enable this device in bios and set it to IDE mode and look in Device Manager it shows up and standard Intel Primary/Secondary IDE channels/controller.

However, on Windows Update it shows a driver update from JMicron dated July 24th 2006, WHQL, version 1.14 driver.

If i install this driver i get 2 SCSI controller shows up and one has a yellow mark staing that the device cannot start, any idea what is going on?

I had that issue.

I got the lastest drivers off of gigabytes site, now my BenQ reads-

BENQ DVD DD DW1640

Before, it read as SCSI... lots of quarks with this stupid board. Process is still slow. Coming along though/
08-07-2006, 03:16 PM
Richard Dower

The issue is, the JMicron controller is listed under SCSI and RAID Controllers, obviously it's been rebranded as "Gigabyte GBB36X Contoler".

Then my Plextor 716SA is listed under DVD-ROM/CD Drives as "Plextor DVDR PX-716A SCSI CdRom Device"....now i've no problem with this....is issue is Windows XP no longer recognises as the device with burning properties, Media Player 10 does not see the drive and you can't burn files with said drive.

In My Computer under Devices with Removable Storage my Plextor is listed, DVD-RW Drive...if you click on properties there WAS a dialoge box to show burning properties, "enable cd burning" etc.

That dialogue box is now gone...any idea why?
08-26-2006, 03:01 AM
IluvIntel

I'm installing XP pro on my benchmark computer now as I type this and just want to report a conflict between Pioneer DVR-108 combo drive and this boards ICHR8 when installing O/S in Raid0 from this controller.