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I have seen no higher X1900 AIW here, but I know someone with conroe will end up higher than me :(
CPU and GFX are air cooled, stock small heatsink @ AIW.
Pic:
http://www.sspmustang.com/40k-3d01-AIW.JPG
Compare:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9019773
Heatsink:
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/images/158.jpg
Nice job man :) Knew you'd get it!
Looking @ the stickies, this is a WR untill someone runs one with conroe...
Going to install a stock XT heatsink soon ;)
Can you do a 05 or 06 run? Nice scores :toast:
I will get 03/05/06 done once the new cooler goes on, I dont have Pro liscenses, so I cant keep temps down on those :(
This stock cooler is HORRIBLE!
nice score..
im getting the same VC, hope to get the same results. ;)
keep us updated!
what voltages are you running it at?
very nice card.
1.3v core and 2.119 on ram, but I am hitting a very bad temperature wall...
The stock cooler on this thing is horrible....
Hopefully I can do a good 700+/650+ run with the new cooler...
i always wondered how this card would oc since it has a reduced number of voltage regulators compared to the XT/XTX. i dunno if it'll be capable of 1.425v on the core like the rest of the X1900 family, but i'll let you decide on that ;)
hopefully the new cooler will net you some more mhz, if not you can always go aftermarket/water.
Good luck!
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Originally Posted by aiya
I thought it actually had the same number? Either way, 1.5v is available in ATI tool, and thats what I plan on using...
Running anything over 1.3v in ATITOOL eventually will lock up, even if the clocks are stable at lower voltages, and heat isnt an issue.
Newer results will be posted tonight :)
Impressive, Wish ida got the one I ordered for 149 a few months back, it was a typo but some ppl actually got theirs :(
I wasnt one of them..
3d01:42586
Http://www.sspmustang.com/OT/3d01%20full%20tweak.JPG
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9022185
Trying to get 3d03 to pass, but it is a tough bench.
3d03: 18429
No pic of 3095 + ram tweak, here is 3030 + untweaked ram
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4902620
Ordered one @ $194. COuldn't resist :p: Will be doing water XD
For refrence, my GT1 in 3D03 is exactly the same as AFI's Opteron 170 @ 3.2ghz.
That is about the same ammount of CPU power I have, for comparison reasons...
Now you will be able to hit 40k 3d01 and record TV @ less than 200$ :)Quote:
Ordered one @ $194.
Hell yes :D Now all I need is a better cpu... hard to buy new stuff with gf >.<
nice they jsut had this for 149 but now OOS. how high does the ram go?
what volts are u using to reach 702/666(im taking it this speed is just for benching)? can you do 05 results please?
i had the x1800 aiwand it was great and i dont mind picking this up.
Volts:
1.3/2.119/2.119
I have not even tried other volts on ram, but the ram will start to artifact at 684 mhz.
Using more voltage on core than 1.3v made it unstable, and only marginally helped.
I could run 3d01 for hours, and ive made it through 03, but I dont know exactly how stable it is 24-7 gaming...
running 05 soon :)
can you crossfire these with xpress 3200?
Well, I have a DFI RD580 and a Mastercard.. I could try, but.. I think there was a problem that someone else listedQuote:
Originally Posted by menlatin
Wow nice scores for the card. I'm wondering though, is it worth it over a X1900GT? I know this has the full 48 pixel shaders and 16 pixel pipes but overclocking wise, it seems like the X1900GT can hit higher core and especially memory speeds. I at first wrote off the AIW because it seemed like the relatively slow RAM was holding back performance. What rating is the RAM by the way? 2ns or 1.4ns?
I'm sort of debating the two.
1.6ns ram.
I am trying some higher vmem on card, trying to get 693 on mems stable.
3D05:
http://www.sspmustang.com/OT/3d05%20tweaked%20tew.JPG
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2152461
3D03:
http://www.sspmustang.com/OT/3d03%20tweaked%20tew.JPG
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4907163
More is left, voltage is at 1.3/2.160/2.124
Core and mems start to artifact at 704-706 mhz. I put a 80mm fan blowing on the PWMs on the card, as they were getting 95c+
I might be able to run more core voltage now...
Looking good. I might have to pick one of these up, the TV tuner is hard to resist. Now I just need to get rid of th x800xl.
~700/700 on stock cooler + 80mm fan on voltage regulator ??? and 1.3v on GPU...
Imo amazing......I will have this card in next week so I maybe post my scores....
I did 630/585 on stock cooler, and I am 700/700 on stock x1900xt cooler + 80mm fan on VReg.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizardus
How high you have now temp. on Vreg? Before adding 80mm fan you reach 95C
It only sees like 55c now :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizardus
Results look very good so far. This card is basicly an X1900XTX with all-in-wonder capabilities :)
I think the hight PWM temp is what's causing instability above 1.3v vcore. You could remount that little heatsink with some AS5, and maybe lap it.
Keep up the good work.
I thought so also, but I let the Pwms cool to ~42c, and as soon as I loaded 1.4 vcore, the computer froze.Quote:
Originally Posted by alexio
lowering the vcore let me have stability longer, but even 1.325v will crash after 2 to 3 3dmark 01 runs...
1.3v is stable, and anything over that just isnt. The only guess I have is that the PSU isnt strong enough on the PCI-e rail to hold the load.
(Thermaltake 680w)
Either that, or 1.3v in ATI TOOL isnt 1.3v on the card, and that the card is seriously over volting...
:)
thats really good man. so what u using for 24/7 right now.
yeah i was really kicking myself cause i just couldn't get it to Australia........your retailers refuse to sell to us australians :(Quote:
Originally Posted by tvdang7
fhpchris, can you do me a favor and make me a small guide on how to OC X1900 wonder. As this well be my 1st time OCing a Video Card i wouldn't want anything to go wrong. List of software i need and Steps would be nice, Thanks.
I got my X1900AIW for $149 from ZipZoomFly a few days ago and have overclocked it to 702 core/702 mem. I mounted a modified Zalman 7000ALCU CPU cooler to fit on it. At those clocks it's great for 24/7 gaming.
For voltage I'm running 1.475 core, 2.14 on the mem.
My A64 is weaker than his Yonah, so my 3D Mark 05 score with the PC in my sig was 11,820.
->CPLB: how hot is the core and Vreg. in load/idle?
Highest I've seen after a few hours of gaming is 61C in a 25C room.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizardus
You cannot beat 702/702 @ 149$ :)
damn it people stop rubbing it in :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by fhpchris
Lowest I saw 206$+ship or 209 free ship.
ofkox NEW, not open box and etc.
149$ is a price for refurbished?
NO!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizardus
ZZF had 149$ :)
@TVDANG:
My parents use the AIW/Yonah to websurf and check email. It is the perfect thing for them, because it uses very little power and is fast :)
I use:
E6600/Asus WS PRO/4x 320gb seagates in raid 0 and raid 5/x1900 Crossfire Edition
I hope to get watercooling or a X1950XTX soon :)
Here is my experience with this card. I got it in canada for $320. At 1.325 core 2.102 mem it does 648 700. The temps on the core with a fan at 100%(open case) reach 85C then crash.
So I need a cooler. What is my best bet here? Watercooling, I can get a kit(less pump) for $15 CAN. I'm only doing this to see what this core has in it. :)
I'm gonne sell it as soon as the r600 based AIW card'd price stabilizes a bit.
thanks for the opinions
Wojtek
All the x1900xt coolers work well, but using more than 1.3v made my card crash.Quote:
Originally Posted by vortex240
I do not know why using 1.325v made it crash, but thats what happened.
648 on the stock cooler on core isnt bad! I only managed 630, and even then, it was not 100% stable.
I run a 420 watt psu, its an enermax 425 model...when I bump the voltage too high the card system crashes
So where do I get a cooler stock cooler?
Also it can do 1.575v stable with a 80 fan on the back of the card but once the core temps reach 85 it crashes.
BTW I got a:
opt 144 @ 2835 dfi ultra b at 315 at 1.475v
3d 06 = 5450
3d 05 = 11650
Quote:
Originally Posted by CPLB
dang urs does 1.474 volts and chris can only do 1.3? something is up!!!
I have a crappy thermaltakes 660w in my Yonah comp, it might just be unable to provide the power.
I could swear this AIW needs more power than my other X1900, this thing pulls 52+ AMPs in ATI Tool.
@fhpchris im having problems too its triping the ocp on a pcpower 510 dlx
check it out in xtreme reviews
hey guys,
just got my aiw x1900 last week . the first time i OC it went 643mhz gpu and 550mhz mem and got a score of 11081 3dmark05. BUt now i cant seems to OC the mem . even at 20mhz OC on the mems it artifacts tremendously all over the screen. i can reach 690 on the gpu with 1.3volts.
i tried raising the mem voltage but it doesnt help. i really want reach 600mhz..
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...ark0511081.jpg
BTW im using stock HSF but put some AS5 on it.
was u able to O/C before applying the AS5 or after ?
i just put the AS5 15mins ago but same results. also did put some AS5 on the mosfets. though it help lowers my idle temp from 53C to 48C.
Nice core on that card.. that memory sucks, though.
Changing the stock cooler really helped my memmory results.Quote:
Originally Posted by ferds
I think I only got ~550 with the stock cooler...
i dont think the stock cooler is the problem. even at 10mhz Oc on the mems still lock hard my desktop. i dont want to believed that the mems are broken or damaged with my initial OC.:( :(
hope not but it might be true.Quote:
Originally Posted by ferds
:( :( :( :( :( :(
The stock cooler gets very hot, and the thermal pads on the ram only heat the ram up, not cool it down.Quote:
Originally Posted by tvdang7
I would dobut you hurt the ram. Check your voltage settings and temps.
i have aiw x1900 and accelero x2 (modded to fit in aiw),
accelero max rpm (about 2000), temp in idle 39-37C on core, ambient 38C,
max with stock voltage on memory : 585Mhz, with 2.16V ~595mhz, buuu:( even with ~2,2v i have about 605mhz......
core with 1.3V about 665mhz , with 1,4V about 670-675mhz...then temp reach in ati tools 60C on core max, 68C on voltage regulator.......
If i overclock fast mem from stock 477 to for example 570mhz graphics crach, artefact on all monitor.....i could overclock to for axample 570 in steps for 20mhz add....
EDIT: ofkoz i have 80mm fan on vreg
EDIT2: very strange ....... i put off cooler (X2) and add some thermal past on memory , then again in ati tools 2.16V/2.16V and ... and it find my max memory on 700mhz!!, on 706mhz system frozen and i restarted comp....after restart aagain it find max memory abaout 585-605mhz :(...... WFT?
some tips for me:( ?
WTF........
one time ati tool stop on max mem ~700mhz 2.151V/2.151V , restart comp and this same voltage max 600mhz.......Now..I dont know what i must doing.....:banana::banana::banana::banana:..
Sometimes moving up slowly helps, you could always try more voltage on ram, I run 2.25 on GDDR4 ;)
i like ur "web surfing rig" man i didnt know mozilla firefox was that gfx intensive.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by fhpchris
I was just contacted by a fellow X1900 AIW owner who runs similar clocks to what I bench with and his card seems to be dead.
He ran it @ 1.3vgpu and 700+ core for a few months daily, and it will not output video now.
The whole time he had a waterblock on it (temp never getting to 50c) and fans over the mems and vregs.
I know my card will artifact @ CS:S when it gets warm, even under stock speeds and voltages,(works fine @ 100% fanspeed ~45c load) so this is just a warning to other people who like to run 700+ core every day :) He also ran 2.25 on his ram every day.