7900gtx @590SLI

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08-01-2006, 05:49 PM
k|ngp|n

7900gtx @590SLI

Early numbers looking decent with 590SLI ref board. Trying to work out the bugs still, but it shows some promise even with lower fsb limit as you can clock the ram pretty high keeping within certain parameters to make up for some of that loss in fsb power. Should have some full ln2 runs soon. Around 325fsb is limit for now with this mobo, haven't tried too hard to get over that as it seems to be a bit of wall there. I also benched a reworked version of the p5n32SLI with similar results, so def a chipset limitation for now. Chipset mod should help it some.

6800xe @chilled water temps 0c - 5c.
NFORCE 590SLI c19
2x1024 CORSAIR XMS 6400C3
2x7900GTX SLI / air with cool air ducted on them from ac unit:

01' (shi* cl)
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL256.../173506973.jpg

03'
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL256.../173506961.jpg

05'
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL256.../173506949.jpg

06'
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL256.../173775273.jpg

AM3
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL256.../173536048.jpg
Pushing the ram here for 8m/3d stability only. Not using any tweaks, just basic xp install...C3 runs pretty good on this board:
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL256.../173506945.jpg

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL256.../173506967.jpg

full Ln2 is next..
08-01-2006, 05:54 PM
wtkprol

Nice job.
08-01-2006, 06:06 PM
mdzcpa

Not bad for a warm up on the 590SLI. Thanks for sharing the results:toast:
08-01-2006, 06:37 PM
k|ngp|n

Just in case you didnt know, Sham is already doing some official damage with this combo:
http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=83883

Looks like I have to play catch up now :)
08-01-2006, 06:52 PM
Supertim0r

good luck ! soon we will see 90k 2001 :D
08-01-2006, 07:09 PM
Dynasty

nice runs K|NGP|N
08-01-2006, 07:22 PM
charlie

th post says it ALL :

Trying to work out the bugs still, but it shows some promise even with lower fsb limit as you can clock the ram pretty high keeping within certain parameters to make up for some of that loss in fsb power. Should have some full ln2 runs soon. Around 325fsb is limit for now with this mobo, haven't tried too hard to get over that as it seems to be a bit of wall there.
08-01-2006, 07:27 PM
vapb400

impressive initial results!

I have to ask though, what is your current relationship with nvidia? I am very curious.

The P5N32SLI was the nforce4 right?

thanks alot and I cant wait to see some LN2 results
08-01-2006, 07:46 PM
k|ngp|n

Quote:

Originally Posted by vapb400

impressive initial results!

I have to ask though, what is your current relationship with nvidia? I am very curious.

The P5N32SLI was the nforce4 right?

thanks alot and I cant wait to see some LN2 results

I believe so vap. Final board should be out soon. It's nothing special really, just a beta testing opportunity or two through third party mobo vendors. Working out bugs on pre-release stuff sucks, believe me ;).
08-01-2006, 07:49 PM
gocchin

Looking good Vince! Don't forget for all that beta testing you get Nvidia t-shirts too right? :D
08-01-2006, 08:05 PM
Charles Wirth

Nice rig Vince, Im sure you will rip up to the top spots quickly.

You guys might want to check out the interview on ocxtreme.org
08-01-2006, 09:49 PM
NiCKE^

Excellent bro! Hope they can work out the fsb bug on the final version of 590 later this year ;)
08-01-2006, 10:00 PM
brandinb

nice to see the result of the nvidia board thanks.

shamino doesnt seem to concerned by the lower fsb and says that the cpu mhz is the factor that matters for 3d bench.
08-01-2006, 11:13 PM
zakelwe

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandinb

nice to see the result of the nvidia board thanks.

shamino doesnt seem to concerned by the lower fsb and says that the cpu mhz is the factor that matters for 3d bench.

I bet he would not be saying that if he has an E6600 or E6700 though ! If you have fully unlocked multi's up or down the nvidia looks good, but if you cannot afford the 6800 then you have a problem. I'd like to go with 590 as well as it looks pretty fast and you know SLi will work with it, but do I want to pay the extra money ..no. :( As I normally go good air cooled the E6600 or E6700 would be good for what I could realistically achieve ..say 3.4-3.9Ghz but with 9 and 10 multipliers and 325Mhz ...hmmm. I hope nvidia tweaks or next generation chipset will be better or else it is Intel 975 and modded drivers as per Big Sam. Will they work for G8x series or will by then nvidia have full SLi licence with Intel ? Lots of unknowns. I am not buying anything yet until I see the lay of the land.

Nice results k|ngP|n so far, looking forward to LN2.

Regards

Andy

PS 1 litre motorcycles, musclecars and Rottwielers .. ya big softy :D
08-01-2006, 11:21 PM
SIOUX

Very nice beginning kIngpIn :toast: Cant wait to see more:)
08-01-2006, 11:52 PM
afireinside

Looking good Vince :) Glad to see you got the 590 board working decently. Better cooling and vmods should help you get around that FSB wall. I know my 590 AMD board runs HOT and the stock cooling was trash, The Intel 590 seems similar...
08-01-2006, 11:53 PM
nachthymnen

Good start Vince!!!:slobber:
08-02-2006, 12:59 AM
dinges

very nice start indeed :)
the low fsb kinda sucks, but was expected i guess, NB getting hot with the stock hs?

btw, i love the interviews at ocx, great to know a little bit more about the guys behind the "big" names :toast:
08-02-2006, 01:46 AM
Big_Sam

Thank for results, I was very much interested to find out abilities of NF590 :)
08-02-2006, 06:56 AM
railer

nice to see you back with intel Kingpin. All you have to do is figure out FSB moding now:) Let's see some LN2 action:toast:
08-02-2006, 09:09 AM
milkcafe

why not OC to 1040/1070:confused:

you had done that before

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1913631
08-02-2006, 09:47 AM
0verl0ad

What is the max stable FSB you can reach with the board?
08-02-2006, 09:56 AM
gocchin

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkcafe

why not OC to 1040/1070:confused:

you had done that before

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1913631

He is only testing using air.... be patient... the xtreme cooling will come and you will see the monster clocks... :)
08-02-2006, 09:59 AM
LardArse

nice warming up there vince!! :) i know what it's like to push this board :stick:
LN2 runs should get u quite a fair bit higher than what i can do, especially with ur card clocks, it'll drop a heavy bomb on the orb. I get around 1010 core with the current pcie we have on it, i dunno if its just my coolin though, maybe ur card goes higher with the pcie.

Btw that desktop looks mysteriousily familiar bro ;)
08-02-2006, 12:31 PM
k|ngp|n

Quote:

Originally Posted by LardArse

nice warming up there vince!! :) i know what it's like to push this board :stick:
LN2 runs should get u quite a fair bit higher than what i can do, especially with ur card clocks, it'll drop a heavy bomb on the orb. I get around 1010 core with the current pcie we have on it, i dunno if its just my coolin though, maybe ur card goes higher with the pcie.

Btw that desktop looks mysteriousily familiar bro ;)

heh...don't know what your talking about :). As for c19 ref, we'll see Sham...gonna have to work for this one. I'm amazed by what youve done with it already, REALLY. Right now I cant even boot up under -30c, so trying to work around that atm. I know this chip can do 4.9 or more for 3d ;), so if it can't on this mobo something's up.
BTW--I added the chilled water/air on the card 06. It was a little over 13k.
08-02-2006, 12:45 PM
BlackX

Quote:

Originally Posted by k|ngp|n

heh...don't know what your talking about :)

Of course you dont... :D

Good luck mystery man :toast:
08-02-2006, 02:01 PM
Kunaak

that 320 FSB limit is gonna really hurt this board, unless you go all out for a XE.

any CPU with less then a 11 multiplier, is gonna be severly held back by this board...
08-02-2006, 02:08 PM
zbogorgon

ihmo anyone will forget nv590 when sli is official on 975, eg. it's allready forgoten, the only reason for using it is for quad sli and kingpin :D
08-02-2006, 03:27 PM
JuanFlaiter

My board doesnÂ´t boot :( Someone forgot to ship the BIOS chip :/
08-05-2006, 07:09 AM
k|ngp|n

Got some decent updates with the 590SLI mobo. Still not even close to full power that his chip or my cards are capable of. At this point, board is limiting factor but I'm making progress on it:
16k official for 06'
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL256.../174640726.jpg

25k 05'
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL256.../174640736.jpg

59k 03'
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL256.../174640728.jpg

Only things maxed on these runs was my Corsair memory and graphic card's memory. 7900gtX Cores have been alot tougher to clock high on this mobo, and the cpu is still nearly 300-400mhz from it's top end. 330fsb for 3d is best bus speed so far, really can't see it getting much higher than that without 1.83v+ on the chipset. The 05' and really all three benches are actually pretty good for only 4.5ghz and 325fsb. Final runs at 4.8ghz+ even with 300-320fsb should be pretty impressive. My cards are starting to show the signs of some hardcore wear and tear, as I am getting artifacts now where I didn't use too and I can't clock them for shi* in 03' anymore. They just need to make it a few more sessions....I am not going to bother with 01' or am3 until I get the cpu speed maxed.
08-05-2006, 07:18 AM
nachthymnen

Great scores Vince!!:woot:
16k '06!!!:slobber:
08-05-2006, 05:32 PM
LardArse

Thx for the ass kickin :D I know that it was definitely not easy!
I'll try somemore to see how much gap I can fill!
08-05-2006, 07:42 PM
k|ngp|n

Quote:

Originally Posted by LardArse

Thx for the ass kickin :D I know that it was definitely not easy!
I'll try somemore to see how much gap I can fill!

Shammy, that was some of the hardest clocking I have ever done bro :)
Seriously! I have mad respect for your 03', I don't think my cards can make it anymore to take top spot. I'll blow em up tryin' though...
08-05-2006, 08:14 PM
Dumo

Nice runs there KP:toast: That GTXs really gave awesome fights till the end:)
08-05-2006, 10:26 PM
G H Z

Sweet scores :toast:

Those cards put up alot of crazy numbers.
08-06-2006, 12:27 AM
Micutzu

Sick scores as always :toast: ... can't wait to see your '01.
Sad to hear that about your cards, but i'm sure they'll retire in glory :D.
08-06-2006, 03:07 AM
zakelwe

Is the promised land just around the corner ? No milk and honey quite yet it seems.

Going to be an interesting run up to 2007.

Regards

Andy
08-06-2006, 05:15 AM
GoriLLakoS

Nice to see you benching with an intel again Vince..:D

Good luck and big clocks i wish you will have..:D

Whats the biggest pci-e mhz you this board gives you?
08-06-2006, 05:22 AM
wa77ss

Once quad SLI gets all the bugs worked out, Nvdia will be #1 for sure ....
08-06-2006, 05:28 AM
GoriLLakoS

Quote:

Originally Posted by wa77ss

Once quad SLI gets all the bugs worked out, Nvdia will be #1 for sure ....

But we need a board with 64 lanes on SLi capable in order to get the full bandwidth of 7950 card...tll then..7900GTX 512 will be the #1 for benchmarks..:D
08-06-2006, 05:38 AM
wa77ss

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoriLLakoS

But we need a board with 64 lanes on SLi capable in order to get the full bandwidth of 7950 card...tll then..7900GTX 512 will be the #1 for benchmarks..:D

I guess you could consider that a bug :shrug: :p:
08-06-2006, 05:38 AM
krullet

can we see some pics of the board`?
08-06-2006, 05:44 AM
Jort

http://image2.sina.com.cn/IT/h/2006-...998e80c729.jpg

it this correct?
08-06-2006, 04:28 PM
milkcafe

If k|ngp|n's system run with this kentsfield CPU ...:cool:

http://www.tyrou.net/screens/12856-3d06.png
08-06-2006, 08:32 PM
k|ngp|n

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jort

it this correct?

that be it jort...

The Empire striked back:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=419089
Well done Shamino!
08-06-2006, 11:12 PM
Pedro Rocha

Quote:

Originally Posted by k|ngp|n

that be it jort...

The Empire striked back:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=419089

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9021606

Amazing 3Dmark2001 run Xtreme Legend :toast:

So dam close of mine ;)

I see you use "NVIDIA 7900gtX SLI Tek9 ln2" - what clock speed for the graphic cards ??
08-06-2006, 11:26 PM
DesertShooter

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedro Rocha

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9021606

Amazing 3Dmark2001 run Xtreme Legend :toast:

So dam close of mine ;)

I see you use "NVIDIA 7900gtX SLI Tek9 ln2" - what clock speed for the graphic cards ??

P5W DH Deluxe :eek:

Unofficial?

or would "k|ngp|n 7900gtX SLI | 975x" mean that it are official drivers :D , Kingpin would never bench with unofficial drivers...
08-06-2006, 11:33 PM
nachthymnen

Quote:

Originally Posted by k|ngp|n

that be it jort...

The Empire striked back:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=419089

WOW!!!972FPS on Nature!:slobber:
08-06-2006, 11:44 PM
G H Z

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Quote:

Originally Posted by k|ngp|n

The Empire striked back

I should be insulating my new board....
08-07-2006, 06:15 AM
k|ngp|n

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedro Rocha

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9021606

Amazing 3Dmark2001 run Xtreme Legend :toast:

So dam close of mine ;)

I see you use "NVIDIA 7900gtX SLI Tek9 ln2" - what clock speed for the graphic cards ??

Thanx so much Pedro :). I think the clocks were at 1052+/1075+. That brutal system power of yours on the xfire rig is a tough act to follow for sure. Xfire/ati drivers is so perfect for that benchmark. I'm all nature of course, but I'm doing the best with what I got. I am still on a just a basic install of XP with no tweaks, so there is ground to gain there in lobbies and cars. 975x -SLI is definitely not official at this time for other benches, but in 01' it can be published so it's all good :D. 590SLI simply isn't ready to give a good fight in 01' yet until there is more system power.
These same speeds I ran here for this latest 01' on 975x, give jaw dropping numbers in the other 3d benchmarks. 27k+ 05', 17k 06', 62.5k+ 03', 260k+ AM3. If it never becomes official, they won't ever see the orb though.

@G: good luck with your rig and have fun dude.
08-07-2006, 12:48 PM
Moonraker™

Kingpin,

I'm planning on getting the DFI variant of 590 for Intel... do you reckon they'll up the FSB by release? Or that wall @ 325 gonna stay without modding?

I'm fearing for the unused power of my E6600 @ 325 x9.
08-07-2006, 01:17 PM
k|ngp|n

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moonraker™

Kingpin,

I'm planning on getting the DFI variant of 590 for Intel... do you reckon they'll up the FSB by release? Or that wall @ 325 gonna stay without modding?

I'm fearing for the unused power of my E6600 @ 325 x9.

I actually modded the chipset to get from 320-327+ :D
They are working on that now I'm sure of it. But to be honest, it's really a chipset limitation on c19. It's yet to be seen what the other 590SLI c19 variants like DFI can do, but if it has c19 on it I would bet that a similar limitaion will exist. That's my honest un-sweetend opinion. DFI makes some kick ass boards so maybe they can do some great things with it. If Oskar is involved, I have no doubt it will be a great board. C55 will be a more solid clocking chipset for sure. That is NVIDIA's ground up true conroe chipset and should overclock like a demon with these chips if the bus/mem/pci-ex performance was anything like am2 boards. The c19 board is obviously just a conversion of older chipset. Can only do so much with it. Look how close mine and shamino's 590 scores are atm :). Thats crazy tight.
08-07-2006, 01:34 PM
zakelwe

Quote:

Originally Posted by k|ngp|n

These same speeds I ran here for this latest 01' on 975x, give jaw dropping numbers in the other 3d benchmarks. 27k+ 05', 17k 06', 62.5k+ 03', 260k+ AM3. If it never becomes official, they won't ever see the orb though.

Those are big big numbers but not official so no dice of course.

Short term frustration may lead to long term joy*

Regards

Andy

* I think I have been reincarnated from a fortune cookie.
08-08-2006, 04:39 PM
Moonraker™

Looking down (middle of the page) on this: http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=6326&page=4

It says FSB Clock 100 - 500MHz (1MHz increments)?!?!

Where'd they get that from?
08-08-2006, 07:27 PM
G H Z

Just because a BIOS has a setting doesn't mean it will actually run it.

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