AMD Calls 4x4 “Quad-Father”

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08-01-2006, 04:30 PM
jbizzler

AMD Calls 4x4 “Quad-Father”

Advanced Micro Devices, the world’s No.2 maker of x86 microprocessors, last week released some details concerning its high-end gaming platform previously named 4x4. The firm now wants the technology to be called Quad-Father and says that enthusiasts with not limitless budgets will also be able to obtain an appropriate system.

AMD said that it will not only offer systems running two of its dual-core processors with system integrators, such as Alienware or VoodooPC, but will also offer bundles of two processors in one package, making the 4x4, or Quad-Father, technology available in the do-it-yourself (DIY) markets. The pricing on such bundles will start from approximately $1000, according to AMD’s Pat Moorhead.

It is currently unclear whether typical AMD Athlon 64 X2 processors, which pricing varies from $152 to $301, AMD Athlon 64 FX chips, which are usually priced in between $800 and $1100, or a new series of desktop-oriented processors will serve the Quad-Father platforms. The company at this time reviews possibilities to enable “step by step” 4x4, where end-users could get only one chip initially and then add another one some time later.

During the press conference AMD demonstrated CineBench benchmark and said that the 4x4 platform provides 80% performance benefit compared to a similar one with a single dual-core microprocessor. The company did not estimate, what the performance will be like, when two quad-core processors are plugged in.

Advanced Micro Devices needs to offer a platform for enthusiasts that offers higher performance compared to Intel’s Core 2 Extreme-based computers. With the Quad-Father AMD talks about “megatasking”, a usage environment where users play games and perform compute-demanding tasks, such as rendering or video encoding.

Pricing of final systems is also unclear.

Source: X-bit labs
08-01-2006, 04:35 PM
Kanavit

sweet , this sounds promising. Can't wait for some die screen shots on Quad father.
08-01-2006, 04:40 PM
jbizzler

I always assumed 4x4 would just use the same procs. I never even concidered they'd be in kits.
08-01-2006, 05:10 PM
perkam

Quad Father

:gay:

Perkam
08-01-2006, 05:11 PM
[cTx]Philosophy

Mannnnnn!
This is some bullsh@
08-01-2006, 05:17 PM
phelan1777

oh brother
08-01-2006, 06:01 PM
STEvil

anyone got a picture of a shotgun pointed at a foot? (dont actually post one..)

Seriously, AMD's marketing has to be stupid to not see the potential.. they're about to blow their entire leg off.
08-01-2006, 06:50 PM
CPLB

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbizzler

AMD said that it will not only offer systems running two of its dual-core processors with system integrators, such as Alienware or VoodooPC...

Source: X-bit labs

I think this is their main audience... overpriced computer builders.
08-01-2006, 07:25 PM
VulgarHandle

they'd be stupid to not allow normal x2's to work...i'm dissapointed..for now..
08-01-2006, 07:28 PM
Bloody_Sorcerer

Quote:

Originally Posted by perkam

Quad Father

:gay:

Perkam

^^
what pekRAM said...
08-01-2006, 07:57 PM
Kanavit

so if you translate 'Quad father' in Dutch what will it be called? For Vader?:D
08-01-2006, 08:11 PM
phelan1777

Yes if you buy the "Quad Father" you will turn to the Darkside!!!!:hrhr: :rocker: :lsfight:
08-01-2006, 08:23 PM
shimq1

Does the name have anything to do with The Godfather?
08-01-2006, 08:27 PM
Kobalt

I really hope thats not going to be the name..."R4WRZ0R5 50 1 g0t t3h qu4d f4th3r 70d4y 4nd 17 15 5000000 f00k1ng 1337z0rs!!!!!11!!!!"

Wait...I can see it now...

Quote:

So Jonny...do you want to come over and see my quad father? It's kind of big, but it fits in the socket just right!
08-01-2006, 08:29 PM
phelan1777

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kobalt

I really hope thats not going to be the name.

"R4WRZ0R5 50 1 g0t t3h qu4d f4th3r 70d4y 4nd 17 15 5000000 f00k1ng 1337z0rs!!!!!11!!!!"

Wait...I can see it now...

:clap: :lol2: :rofl:
08-01-2006, 08:31 PM
afireinside

I certainly hope this is a load of crap because if it's real, AMD just screwed themselves. HARD :bananal:
08-01-2006, 08:39 PM
Kobalt

Luke, I am your Quad-Father.
08-01-2006, 08:41 PM
phelan1777

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
08-01-2006, 08:41 PM
STEvil

one more to the gangster clique: "Say hello to my little friend"
08-01-2006, 08:59 PM
thunderstruck!

Umm...WTF?
08-01-2006, 11:45 PM
biohead

Will K8L also have 4x4 thang? That'd be great, 8 cores and all...
08-02-2006, 12:42 AM
K404

Pllllllllleeeaaassseeeeeeeeee please please please can "package for $1000" somehow mean 2xCPU AND the mobo.
08-02-2006, 01:24 AM
[cTx]Philosophy

Quote:

Originally Posted by K404

Pllllllllleeeaaassseeeeeeeeee please please please can "package for $1000" somehow mean 2xCPU AND the mobo.

Agreed, then Id be for it ( I think)
:stick:
08-02-2006, 01:35 AM
biohead

lets hope DFI will be arsed to make 4x4 mobos..
08-02-2006, 03:50 AM
3NZ0

limiting the system to fx's only is very stupid, there are very few people who are stupid/rich enough to afford that.

It doesnt matter anyway, getting on for no games are properly multi threaded anyway.
08-02-2006, 04:23 AM
psyconut713

Quote:

Originally Posted by K404

Pllllllllleeeaaassseeeeeeeeee please please please can "package for $1000" somehow mean 2xCPU AND the mobo.

i think thats exactly what that ment, but maybe, they could mean RAM too?
08-02-2006, 05:14 AM
K.I.T.T.

Quote:

Originally Posted by phelan1777

Yes if you buy the "Quad Father" you will turn to the Darkside!!!!:hrhr: :rocker: :lsfight:

LMAO....those smileys make that very funny...

:ROTF:
08-02-2006, 05:34 AM
CPLB

Quote:

Originally Posted by psyconut713

...but maybe, they could mean RAM too?

I doubt it... don't you need 4 sticks of RAM in these 2 way systems in order to run dual channel?
08-02-2006, 05:57 AM
Smalltimer

It sounds awesome! I currently run two opteron workstations at home and I would love to replace them with quad systems as long as the power requirements aren't over the top. This is my only concern with the approach to date. The Conroe can provide higher clocks at lower power than AMD solutions. and for me, keeping my Seasonic PSU's would be a good thing. Buying upgrades in order to keep up with the hardware demands would be bad :(
08-02-2006, 06:01 AM
blind_ripper

Quote:

Originally Posted by afireinside

I certainly hope this is a load of crap because if it's real, AMD just screwed themselves. HARD :bananal:

:rolleyes:
08-02-2006, 06:08 AM
Verisimilitude

Does the "Quad Father" come with its own copyright infringement lawsuit?
08-02-2006, 06:12 AM
CBONE

Quote:

Originally Posted by psyconut713

i think thats exactly what that ment, but maybe, they could mean RAM too?

Quote:

Originally Posted by xbitlabs.com

...will also offer bundles of two processors in one package, making the 4x4, or Quad-Father, technology available in the do-it-yourself (DIY) markets. The pricing on such bundles will start from approximately $1000, according to AMD’s Pat Moorhead.

They mean just the processors. The statement as quoted isn't very ambiguous. They need to say what else they are bringing to the mix or else this will tank. If they don't want it to tank, they better get some hyperclocked samples out there so people can see that it doesn't get romped on by an Opteron or Xeon system.
08-02-2006, 06:18 AM
CBONE

IF AMD could swing FULL Crossfire and SLI support, along with using cheaper processors, I could get behind it.
08-02-2006, 06:38 AM
phelan1777

AMD could be staying tight lipped about the "packages" just to make Intel worry?

Maybe not tip their hand to early?
08-02-2006, 07:24 AM
arisythila

Loose lips sink ships...

~Mike
08-02-2006, 10:35 AM
CBONE

Hopefully Intel will respond like this :banana::banana::banana::banana: is going to take over.

Only a perceived threat, real or not, will drive prices down.
08-02-2006, 10:37 AM
DilTech

They are responding...they're releasing kentsfield a quarter early.

The question, will intel take it seriously enough to make a sub $1000 kentsfield?
08-02-2006, 10:59 AM
CBONE

Quote:

Originally Posted by DilTech

The question, will intel take it seriously enough to make a sub $1000 kentsfield?

I don't know if they'll take it that seriously. I think the best response for us would be to for them to rip off AMD's 4x4 idea. Then everyone will have to support it or be left out of all super-enthusiast systems.

Actually, what would kick all asses would be to enable mismatched dual processors where they stay at their stock speeds. That would keep the Opteron and Xeon markets separate and provide a boost to enthusiast systems. Give that second cpu a slick, non-retarded name (Something with an X) and watch them fly off shelves.

I can see it now, "OMG!!! Newegg has X- in stock!!!!!!" "OMG!!!1!!! Newegg is gouging X-!!!!!" :D

If you could start off with any X2 processor and add the 2nd processor, say 3 kinds to choose from, (a fast single core, a slower dual core, and an FX type fast dual core) I would buy that in a second.
08-02-2006, 01:45 PM
nn_step

They are not FREAKING GOING TO CALL IT QUADFATHER DAMMIT
08-02-2006, 01:52 PM
Kallenator

Quote:

Originally Posted by nn_step

They are not FREAKING GOING TO CALL IT QUADFATHER DAMMIT

I have a better name, Quad LOL. Because the amount of cash you are going to spend on that performance boost aint gonna be worth it. At least that is what I think.
08-02-2006, 02:21 PM
NapalmV5

watever theyr gonna call it.. 4x4 shouldve been out @ AM2 release.. theyve missed out big..
08-02-2006, 02:38 PM
Verisimilitude

"Rumors on the AMD 4x4 processor being called "Quad-Father" are false. The name being used by marketing is "Quadicon"."

Source: Anandtech
08-02-2006, 02:55 PM
mrsean

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verisimilitude

"Rumors on the AMD 4x4 processor being called "Quad-Father" are false. The name being used by marketing is "Quadicon"."

Source: Anandtech

I like the "Quad-Father" better!
08-02-2006, 04:21 PM
VulgarHandle

i wish they'd say how much under $1000 a pair of 4x4 cpu's will cost...

actually, i wish they'd not use '4x4 cpu's' and just use regular cpu's...
08-02-2006, 04:26 PM
phelan1777

Quote:

Originally Posted by VulgarHandle

i wish they'd say how much under $1000 a pair of 4x4 cpu's will cost...

actually, i wish they'd not use '4x4 cpu's' and just use regular cpu's...

we should be able to get a bulk deal, I mean paying 300-500 for a high end chip, and then having to pay like 800-1K for a dual core.............I think we should be glad in a way, cause if they marked the chips like that for a quad core............if there is a say 2.8Ghz quad core and it goes for like 1200, that would be in essence 300$ a core, not a bad deal.

I am just throwing aruond numbers so no one quote me.
08-02-2006, 04:29 PM
CBONE

Quote:

Originally Posted by VulgarHandle

i wish they'd say how much under $1000 a pair of 4x4 cpu's will cost...

*leans into microphone*
$1, Bob.
08-02-2006, 04:30 PM
Noldor

Honestly, i feel embarrased even pronouncing the name "Quad father" in my mind even though it wansnt my idea. Its just so unbeliavably stupid. Not that quadicon sounds better though. Oh well, i wont be buying it anyway, too expensive.
08-02-2006, 04:42 PM
CBONE

Quote:

Originally Posted by nn_step

They are not FREAKING GOING TO CALL IT QUADFATHER DAMMIT

THEY'RE GOING TO CALL IT FUAD-FATHER XPTXTX!

Just kidding. It would help if the articles mentioned that that was just a nickname.
08-02-2006, 04:45 PM
phelan1777

either X4 or Quad core, straight and to the point.
08-02-2006, 05:26 PM
[LCN]Knowledge

They must be kidding...
08-02-2006, 06:45 PM
[TAG]Imp

man, i thought Quad Father was bad, but Quadicon is even worse...
08-02-2006, 07:11 PM
keiths

I wonder what they're thinking using quad father as a product name? The people who would buy this are lacking in a paternal relationship? Look to their cpu as your father?
08-03-2006, 12:53 AM
zakelwe

Quadicon is an interesting name as undoubtably people will call it Quad Con if it does not live up to expectactions.

Regards

Andy
08-03-2006, 01:15 AM
pH(x)

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3NZ0

limiting the system to fx's only is very stupid, there are very few people who are stupid/rich enough to afford that.

It doesnt matter anyway, getting on for no games are properly multi threaded anyway.

"An 80 MEGABYTE hard drive!!! :eek: How will I find enough data to use all of that space!? This is insane!"

----

All jokes aside, I trust this move, any man with a name like Pat Moorhead of course knows what he's doing.
08-03-2006, 01:21 AM
[TAG]Imp

Quote:

Originally Posted by pH(x)

"An 80 MEGABYTE hard drive!!! :eek: How will I find enough data to use all of that space!? This is insane!"

----

All jokes aside, I trust this move, any man with a name like Pat Moorhead of course knows what he's doing.

:lol: :lol:
08-03-2006, 01:49 AM
duploxxx

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3NZ0

limiting the system to fx's only is very stupid, there are very few people who are stupid/rich enough to afford that.

It doesnt matter anyway, getting on for no games are properly multi threaded anyway.

for know.... you are correct no decent 64bit and multithread support...

we'll see what happens with crysis.:p:
08-03-2006, 07:01 AM
CBONE

Quote:

Originally Posted by [TAG]Imp

man, i thought Quad Father was bad, but Quadicon is even worse...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy

Quadicon is an interesting name as undoubtably people will call it Quad Con if it does not live up to expectactions.

Go back and check the source.
08-03-2006, 09:10 AM
perkam

My List would've been:

Quad Gaming
Quad Power
Quad Processor
Quad Play
Quad Force
Quad Stream
Quad Connect
Quad Performance
Quad Platform
Quad Athlon
Quad 64

Makes me think Hector Ruiz' list would've been:
Quad Mommy
Quad Daddy
Quad Mother
Quad Daughter
Quad Son
Quad FATHER - ZOMG THAT'S THE 1337est ONE !!!!

:lol: :shakes:

Perkam
08-03-2006, 09:21 AM
[cTx]Philosophy

Quad Conroe Killer :P
Me hopes
Lets just hope its not a Quad way to con us out of our cash!
08-03-2006, 10:27 AM
CPLB

Quote:

Originally Posted by perkam

...
Makes me think Hector Ruiz' list would've been:
Quad Mommy
Quad Daddy
Quad Mother
Quad Daughter
Quad Son
Quad FATHER - ZOMG THAT'S THE 1337est ONE !!!!

:lol: :shakes:

Perkam

:ROTF:

I think Quad 64 sounds good Perkam. But honestly, they can call it whatever they want as long as it's cheap (relatively) and performs well.
08-03-2006, 10:30 AM
nn_step

Quote:

Originally Posted by perkam

My List would've been:

Quad Gaming
Quad Power
Quad Processor
Quad Play
Quad Force
Quad Stream
Quad Connect
Quad Performance
Quad Platform
Quad Athlon
Quad 64

Makes me think Hector Ruiz' list would've been:
Quad Mommy
Quad Daddy
Quad Mother
Quad Daughter
Quad Son
Quad FATHER - ZOMG THAT'S THE 1337est ONE !!!!

:lol: :shakes:

Perkam

why not Conroe Pwned? Sounds funnier :p:
08-03-2006, 10:50 AM
phelan1777

Conroe Stomper?

WE HOPE!
08-03-2006, 11:10 AM
[TAG]Imp

or the "Conroe stomper if you spend twice as much money"! It's just a holdover until K8L IMO
08-03-2006, 11:12 AM
K.I.T.T.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nn_step

why not Conroe Pwned? Sounds funnier :p:

Why not "I am a fanboy, 73h sUx0r5"

:hrhr: