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SO far i've read that this board can't get past 400mhz with the 4MB cache CPUs. THen i saw some posts that show high OCs on E6600, but with a 7x multi. SInce the retail chips are going to be locked has anyone had success with a E6600, E6700 on this board?
I am waffling between this board and the Asus and would like to get the DS3, but the OC'ing ability for the 4MB cache chips seems inconclusive.
Is that from the BIOS or o/ced in Windows?
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Originally Posted by Chuck232
all details here >> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=107892
Mascarask, which Team Ram have you got, is it the 667 3-4-4-8 or the 3-3-3-8 ?
thats not my CPU and mobo , i only have the gigabyte DS3 im steell waiting for Conroe E6600.Quote:
Originally Posted by Devious
That results are from the user PcCl2iminal , but the memory used was MEM ：Team Group PC2 8000 Micron D9 2.3v (4-4-4-12 ) >> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=107892
regards
i just read through that thread and saw him saying 9x was only good to about 380fsb. One screen has 400fsb. The pic you posted though is much higher.Quote:
Originally Posted by mascaras
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...3&postcount=63Quote:
Originally Posted by BottomsUp
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=107892&page=3
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Thanks, so it won't clock via BIOS only in software? SHould i be concerned with this? I typically don't use software to adjust fsb.Quote:
Originally Posted by mascaras
he says that 440 FSB x9 was with the software , via bios was hard to push 380+ / 390 + , but thats no big deal , we use softwre :DQuote:
Originally Posted by BottomsUp
i only need 390 FSB for conroe E6600 (3.5ghz) 24/7 until Rd600 is out , so i think DS3 its a good choice ;)
regards
400 with 9x is a piece of cake ive only seen 1 person who said they had troubles.
mine boots right up warm boot or cold boot at 400 FSB 9x Multi.
i got as high as 435 with a 8x multi but my ram crapped out and i already had it 1:1 which is as low as you can go with this board. which really limits things.
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Originally Posted by Lestat
Good to know that :D
My Ram only run around 405/410Mhz CL4-4-4-12 , thats why i said before that i only need the DS3 can run around 390/400 FSB x9 (1:1 ;) )
regards
only problem with RD600 is its ATI.
i dont want a thermo nuclear graphics card in my already to hot pc case.
i hope the nvidia 590 does well.
It might be that the chipsets are getting too warm. I'm hearing more people say they can get higher FSB with better northbridge cooling... looking for confirmation.
In the meantime, I've cancelled all preorders I had. Don't know if I'm going E6400 or E6600. I don't see any supply shortages at all. If anything, the price will drop after a week.
exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by dissident
Another thing is RD600 - people see it like it's the second coming of the messiah. It could be very good, but what if it's not? This is Ati we're talking about, they first make a product and THEN figure out how good it is.
lol my guess is it will be the other way around mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pandamonia
590 runs really hot (see tha AMD version) and if RD600 is anything like RD580 (Xpress3200) it will run quite cool.
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Originally Posted by zert
im talking about the Graphics cards them selves. they are stupidly hot.... anyone running cross fire should have a fire hose next to their pc incase.
2 cores at 90c is beyond me
they arent designing the motherboards properly.
ther eisnt enough airflow between the two cards to allow them to run cool enough, all thats happening is the fisrt card is sucking all the hot air off the back of the 2nd card.
you cant cool these cards like that, they almost demand a direct port to the outside of the case to suck cooler air.
and the stock heatsinks blow nuts.. they need to redisign these things.
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Originally Posted by Lestat
they also run at twice the core temp of the nvidia core.
ati are just poorly designed full stop. they look cheep to
The last two statements contradict each other...Quote:
Originally Posted by Pandamonia
:lol:
The R600 is the graphics core, the RD600 is the northbridge chipset.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pandamonia
Please stop threadcrapping.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pandamonia
GPU runs just fine on water... or phase :D
499fsb is the highest i've seen with ES5 E6600 + DS3 full 9x multi
but BIOS bootable ... prolly 400fsb
Does anyone know what the lowest memory speed that the board can run?
is there a difference to doing it through software? I've allways used the BIOS and have no experience using software.Quote:
Originally Posted by theteamaqua
mion:
1:1, fsb: dram is the lowest , so for 400+fsb better get quality DDR2 800 or DDR2 1000
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hmm not sure i eman i can boot my 920 at 4.2GHz, but it wont laod windows ... however i can get into windows tehn use easutune to achieve 4.2GHz ...
software is even easier, its like made for dummies lol
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Originally Posted by theteamaqua
Thanks. Wierd...i'm new to this 'software clocking' wonder why it won't boot windows, but will run OC'ed in windows.
WOW, so THAT puts to rest the DS3 myths. >400fsb only with software... useless to anyone running 24/7 (unless you really do keep it "24/7"...)
but still
id like an overclock to be bootable
/glad i got P5W
i don't get it. Why is software overclocking useless for 24/7?Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewZorn
Because everytime you booted into Windows in order to get over 400+fsb you would have to manually increase the fsb using software everytime you restarted or cold booted into windows.Quote:
Originally Posted by BottomsUp
...and what about Linux? That kinda thing. I don't like software overclocking. I've already lost a BIOS chip to A64Tweaker. And the whole idea has always bugged me.
really? manual reset every time? That sux..NOw i wonder how many of these high E6400 and E6300 clocks have been software. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottFern
Well if BIOS can't do it then yeah, it means opening ClockGen (or whatever is used now) every reboot and fiddling around with it... again.
Not that there's anything wrong with suicide screens, "benchmarking setups", or LN2... but I like to use a computer. That's why BIOS overclock / Prime stable / 24/7 practical is all that matters to me.
So yeah... not that I've owned both (or either) but if you're getting an E6600 I'd go with the P5W (EDIT rather, not go with DS3) unless you want to 'big money' it and hope that a BIOS update fixes the problem.
Its still possible to get 400fsb for 24/7 use with the DS3... right?Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewZorn
it appears so, and yeah, pretty easily
/and 3.6ghz is a good goal for E6600 on air/water anyway
im just planning on using phase, so i need all the FSB i can get (and then some)
software overclock feels dirty, im old skool!
ive always used software to figure out what i should be able to boot to windows with
its not dirty, just good clean fun
id be content with 400fsb with 9xmulti
Damn, my 4GHz bootable e6600 dream mtarget, on air/water using a newly developed motherboard seems to be further away every day... SAD:(
If this isn't resolved in a few months, Intel is not getting that 100$+ extra
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Iolite
AndrewZorn, I don't know why you keep bashing the DS3. 450FSB boot up:
You know, it's OK to say both the P5W and DS3 are good. Saying one is good doesn't make the other bad. The P5W has a lot of goodies that reflect the price.Quote:
Originally Posted by K.I.T.T.
bootup 400+ fsb is fine for me too
I just prefer easytune to do quick testing
If one was to not overclock thier E6600 the DS3 would be a nice [bang for buck] motherboard?
I'm getting some conflicting reviews here. What about modestly overclocking? Or is this 400Fsb special in a way I'm too stupid to understand?
do I have to clear CMOS on the DS3 before I build the system ?
Might wanna flash the BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by egyteam
400fsb is just a nice round number :-). Hitting 400fsb with an E6600 is an awesome overclock. It seems puny around here because everyone is 'Xtreme', but for every day use this is my goal and a sweet setup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wonkers
I think even if you don't OC the DS3 is good bang for the buck.
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Originally Posted by thunderstruck!
Because AndrewZorn is talking about the E6600 not the E6300 shown in the screenshot. The E6600+ cannot boot over 400 FSB apparantly.
Please keep in mind that a 3.6ghz E6600 @ 400fsb is a very nice setup. That's my goal, on air cooling :)
correctQuote:
Originally Posted by Devious
and im not bashing it or anything
its just that one minor detail is the reason i didnt buy it
I just want to know, when I receive the board, do I have to clear CMOS before running it, or just building the pc without clearing ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Freez
I don't know what to go with either asus p5w or gigabyte ds3 for my e6600
I've been reading threads for a while and i still haven't seen anything showing DS3 past 400 FSB with the 9x multiplier from bootup. Unless it can boot at 425 or so with the 9x multi, or 425 on the 10x multi on a 6700, i wouldn't consider it.
yes 395 is the highest with E6600 9x multi i thinkQuote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
yeah, but are we sure that the P5W numbers are boot numbers or software numbers? That isnt' clear either. If you read the anandtech mobo article you'll see the max P5W overclock is 400fsb.
Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I've been told that this board, while it does clock very nicely, has a plethora of BIOS issues, which can make it quite frustrating to deal with.
Would need further input from owners on the board to validate this though.
The last Gigabyte Intel (I975x) board I dealt with had potential, but stuff like broken memory dividers and the utter inability to run CAS3 made it a complete headache.
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Originally Posted by BottomsUp
That was with a E6700, would i be right in saying the E6700 in a DS3 would get arund 360 max FSB ? All the different chips seem to be reaching the same clockspeeds on the DS3.
Anantech also say at the bottom of the page.
The ASUS P5W-DH also reached 4.0GHz with an X6800 (stock 266 x15 at 1.575V) and an E6600 at 445FSB x 9x multiplier. All of these results are outstanding, representing overclocks at stock ratio as high as 67%.
btw I can boot with my E6600 at 450FSB.
Well 450 with the P5W and 390 with the DS3, i think we have a winner as far as the 6600 is concerned. DS3 seems like a good choice for anything cheaper than the 6600 though.