took off the lid, IHS gone but cpu gone too?

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07-21-2006, 10:55 PM
noktekniq

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took off the lid, IHS gone but cpu gone too?

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finally took off my ihs. but when i put it back into the socket, i can't get it to boot on. the dfi mobo has 3 red lights. seems liek the cpu nis not being detected. so i tried to put the ihs back on without gluing it and put thermal paste and heatsink on top. still doesn't boot up.
is it dead?
any other way i can try before i confirm it's dead?
i don't see any cracks on the core at all.
i reseated the heatsink twice before i tried putting the ihs in between to bootup

edited! 7.22
found out the problem. i can't seem to boot with 2 rams sticks in the slot. if i only boot with one. it works perfectly fine. but i want to be able to run both my sticks. HELP
07-21-2006, 10:56 PM
nn_step

it looks like you crushed the core man
07-21-2006, 10:58 PM
noktekniq

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Originally Posted by nn_step

it looks like you crushed the core man

i swear there was no cracks on the core tho.
07-21-2006, 11:07 PM
Thrilla

There doesn't need to be a crack for the core to break. I cracked my 2700 a while back, nothing physical except crazy temps and it died the next day.
07-21-2006, 11:12 PM
noktekniq

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Originally Posted by Thrilla

There doesn't need to be a crack for the core to break. I cracked my 2700 a while back, nothing physical except crazy temps and it died the next day.

so even if i dont' have a crack on the core it can be dead too?
07-21-2006, 11:35 PM
Driver

3Led's?
Reseat VGA Card!
07-21-2006, 11:40 PM
noktekniq

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Originally Posted by Driver

3Led's?
Reseat VGA Card!

i just did. reseated. still see 3 LED
07-21-2006, 11:40 PM
WeStSiDePLaYa

yeah, dont think the chip is dead, sounds like a different problem, are you sure there is contact being made? reset cmos.
07-21-2006, 11:44 PM
noktekniq

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeStSiDePLaYa

yeah, dont think the chip is dead, sounds like a different problem, are you sure there is contact being made? reset cmos.

yeh i reset the cmos. maybe i'll do both again. and see whaty's going on.
i don't think the comp will be able to stay on if the cpu is dead. also i see the cpu LEd on the case flashing
07-22-2006, 12:37 AM
4Qman

noktekniq,

Ive had this problem a few times, what i found it to be was the contact between the block and the Core. Too much presure will stop it booting, its definatly the chip id say not anythink else.:cool:

Keep the IHS off, when ou screw down the block go very easy and try booting. If no luck tighten a little more. My Opty on my TDX block wouldnt boot if it was a tad too tight.

Oh i also had a 3800X2 that i swear was dead from too much presure. I left it for ages on the side, then one day thought ill try it. And bam she was alive again.lol

Good luck ;)
07-22-2006, 12:43 AM
noktekniq

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Originally Posted by 4Qman

noktekniq,

Ive had this problem a few times, what i found it to be was the contact between the block and the Core. Too much presure will stop it booting, its definatly the chip id say not anythink else.:cool:

Keep the IHS off, when ou screw down the block go very easy and try booting. If no luck tighten a little more. My Opty on my TDX block wouldnt boot if it was a tad too tight.

Oh i also had a 3800X2 that i swear was dead from too much presure. I left it for ages on the side, then one day thought ill try it. And bam she was alive again.lol

Good luck ;)

lol ! alive. i'm back. but for some reason i can only boot up with one ram in the slot! WEIRD
07-22-2006, 01:14 AM
Nanometer

Welcome to the coldboot bug.
07-22-2006, 07:23 AM
noktekniq

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nanometer

Welcome to the coldboot bug.

so this is what coldboot is?
i want to be able to use my other stick of ram. but it won't boot with one stick of ram. what the hell?
07-22-2006, 07:50 AM
Driver

The Board boots up only with one Stick in the upper Slot.
07-22-2006, 07:55 AM
noktekniq

Quote:

Originally Posted by Driver

The Board boots up only with one Stick in the upper Slot.

is there a way to fix it ?
07-22-2006, 08:50 AM
ncc-1709

i was gonna say ram as 3 led's is ram.
use the orange slots. less problems.
07-22-2006, 09:04 AM
noktekniq

Quote:

Originally Posted by ncc-1709

i was gonna say ram as 3 led's is ram.
use the orange slots. less problems.

changed the ram back from yellow to orange. no boot.
reseted bios. no boot.
boot each ram separately to test if one of them is dead. both works individually.
but still can't boot with both rams in slot.
07-22-2006, 09:37 AM
Kasparz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nanometer

Welcome to the coldboot bug.

I got this bug every time, when i reset CMOS with my Redlines. It doesnt matter what slots. Installed generic ram, Cmos reload, and its only way for me to get post. So try to boot with one RAM stick, enter BIOS, input all settings that worked before, put other stick, and try to boot.
07-22-2006, 10:49 AM
Budwise

try one of OCZ Tony's modded bioses, they may help.
07-22-2006, 01:44 PM
Sparky

Did the computer run fine with both sticks of ram in before you popped the IHS? If so, why or how would popping the IHS make running both ram sticks together not work anymore? :confused:

That doesn't make sense, I must be missing something :stick:
07-22-2006, 01:56 PM
ncc-1709

which mobo is it? if its the dfi sli-d/ultra use the 704bta.
07-22-2006, 07:09 PM
noktekniq

Quote:

Originally Posted by ncc-1709

which mobo is it? if its the dfi sli-d/ultra use the 704bta.

ultra-d using the 704bta bios.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SparkyJJO

Did the computer run fine with both sticks of ram in before you popped the IHS? If so, why or how would popping the IHS make running both ram sticks together not work anymore? :confused:

That doesn't make sense, I must be missing something :stick:

iono why it doesn't work after removing the ihs. but both ram were running fine before i took off the ihs
07-22-2006, 09:33 PM
AndrewZorn

what is the black mark to the left of the core? i dont recognize it...

EDIT by teh way i remember seeing you on DFI street
weird
07-22-2006, 11:28 PM
starostise

same pb with my dfi, when i get off the cpu to put another one, no boot with the two stick of ram.
dfi nf4 ultra-d bios 702-1 with my uccc's and 702-2 with my bh5's

I must take off all the elements off the mobo (gpu, cpu, ram, hdd, psu, battery...) and wait few minutes then put back the battery, then psu, then cpu ram and gpu, if it boots, I connect the other elements, if not, I retry.

but if there is a solution to fix that definitively, that would be nice
07-22-2006, 11:42 PM
noktekniq

so your saying is to clear the cmos with everything off of the board. nothing connected. wait for a few mins and it will work? right now i'm doing the long cmos reset which means that i will be letting the jumper stay on the cmos reset mode for about 5hr+ to see if this will solve the problem
07-23-2006, 03:00 AM
starostise

Quote:

Originally Posted by noktekniq

so your saying is to clear the cmos with everything off of the board. nothing connected. wait for a few mins and it will work?

yes. but don t know if it ll solve the problem for you
07-23-2006, 04:09 AM
davidk21770

If you want to really make sure of the clear -- do this -- to the letter.
http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/show...4&postcount=24
07-23-2006, 08:56 AM
i found nemo

make sure no conductant is between the smd chips
07-23-2006, 09:01 AM
noktekniq

Quote:

Originally Posted by i found nemo

make sure no conductant is between the smd chips

smd? you mean the capacitors?
07-23-2006, 09:20 AM
andre X_X

update to 406BTA and boot with 2.8v....
try also yellow slot... it works fine with my colddamnboot Utt..
07-23-2006, 09:51 AM
noktekniq

Quote:

Originally Posted by andre X_X

update to 406BTA and boot with 2.8v....
try also yellow slot... it works fine with my colddamnboot Utt..

currently using 406
07-24-2006, 12:52 PM
noktekniq

i am able to boot up the comp with 2 stick of ram on the orange and yellow slots fartest away from the CPU. but not able to boot up with 2 sticks when i use both orange or both yellow. any ideas? currently runing fine on stock speed without oc.
07-24-2006, 06:12 PM
Eli

I wonder if you damaged the on die memory controller.
07-24-2006, 07:16 PM
noktekniq

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eli

I wonder if you damaged the on die memory controller.

i dunno, but i know that i'm running fine with 2 sticks of ram on stock. with slots dimm1-2. works fine. but i can't boot up with 2 sticks on both orange or both yellow. so i don't think i damaged the die. btw i can't oc. if i do then i can't boot up on dimm1-2
07-26-2006, 06:45 PM
Riska

I have the same problem whit a xp4800x2 and did not do anything to it just booted one morning and id dident worked but have being running for over a year whit mine 2x1gig corsair but no longer have tryed it in 4 difrent boards but no luck the ram is working ok in oyher boards have tryed whit 5 difrent sticks of ram but no luck
07-26-2006, 08:13 PM
starostise

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidk21770

If you want to really make sure of the clear -- do this -- to the letter.
http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/show...4&postcount=24

that doesn't work at all.
tested all bios too, no go
yesterday i swapped my opty to my 3700+ and it took 3-4 hours to finally boot with a blow on my freezer 64 pro, it irritated me...

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