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hello,
i have an tforce 965p deluxe , and it doesnt boot , blank screen, and i cant acces to bios.
CPU : CPU E6600 es step 5 CPU
RAM : 2*512Mo ddr2 533 micron d9dcn ecc not registred,
i tried with pci and pcie vga , but still not working.
Ram and cpu are tested on other systems.
system start , but blank screen ....
bios issue ? 614 BST
Probably you need another cpu to flash it to a newer bios
step5 core duo is known for not booting with old bios versions. have a look if theres a new version on the net!
last bios is ip96a614.bst and i read 614 BST on bios sticker
http://www.biostar.com.tw/t-series/d...ails.php?id=17
Well i guess , you need to wait or try sending some email to the tech support for a new bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pt1t
some pictures of the Biostar tforce P965p non booting mobo ^^
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/biostar/...65pdeluxe1.jpg
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/biostar/...65pdeluxe2.jpg
I think you need to send me that tower120 :D
:toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Supertim0r
That looks like a very well laid out board :clap:
Cant wait for you to get it up an runnin so you can post some benchies and let us all know about its options :toast:
Does the chipset support ECC-RAM? :confused:
Edit:
http://download.intel.com/design/chi...s/31320701.pdf
Have a look at this and get new RAM. ;)
yeah, try different ram
why would you use ECC ram anyways there's no benefit for a desktop pc and your overclocking is typically limitedQuote:
The 82P965 mch does NOT support ECC
Biostar made a very noticeable progress in MB manufacturing tforce series. They already have the best MB in class - Tforce 6100 s754 :) I just hope they continue like that also for Intel cpus
Their Tforce 939 is a nice board too. I hope their 965 turns out just as good. Great value, especially for us who run a farm for DC projects :)
My Gskill 6400HZ wont boot with P5B Deluxe and with Gigabyte DQ6.
Are you sure it s ddr2 ECC , the problem ?
They worked very good on aopen 975x motherboard.
975x does officially support ECC RAM, in contrast to P965, which does not support it! As easy as that. Get new Non-ECC RAM and have fun. ;)
To help drive the point home, you need new RAM. The 965 chipset doesn't support ECC ram so it won't boot no matter what you do. Get another couple sticks of RAM and go for it!
:)
ok , i ll buy new ram...
and keep those ECC to test on dfi 975x, because the D9 ecc does 400mhz 3-3-3-8 @ 2.15v on my aopen.
wow... cant wait to see Conroe on TForce....:D
Use non ES CPU first and non registered non ECC ram. If you can, use a known working Celeron D just to try everything first.
Pretty Nice for ECC RAM. Unlike some of the others I can understand the value of having a more stable and reliable system that ECC provides.
BTW I Love the layout of this board, anyone know where we can get them from?!?
Anandtech tested Biostar and said :Quote:
Originally Posted by death metal
And i ordered 2*1go Gskill F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ for wednesday :DQuote:
This board did not require a BIOS of the day or week to work with various Conroe steppings or to address memory performance and stability issues
yep i know where , but in belgium :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikesta
link plz :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Pt1t
Quote:
Originally Posted by dinges
It isnt an online shop ^^ Just a friend who knows biostar dealer.
²nd that!Quote:
Originally Posted by dinges
link plz! :p:
Quote:
Originally Posted by SMa
by him ... http://netcomputers.be/
It s a friend and his website isnt updated :toast:
Just mail him for a biostar mobo. (Belgium dealer is ITC multimedia , but you have to buy it by a shop).
My french isn't very good, so I'll ask here :p:
Could you tell how much this board costs?
And when will you try other ram? I want to see how good it is at oc'ing :D
Also you quote Anandtech, but I can't find it. Could you link? ;)
-->2*1go Gskill F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ for wednesday
It cost ~170€
and http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2797
But need also a new bios to do high fsb
There is benefit from overclocking ECC ram . You can clock higher because of the error correction . Articles in google say that there is a slow down when ECC tries to correct errors (2% approx) , but i haven't seen any slowdown myself .Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
I have 3 pairs of D9DQT (Fatbody) and all of them can clock about 15-20Mhz DDR2 higher when ECC is enabled . I run always with ECC enabled .
If i need the faster running memory (More Mhz) , i can have it without problems when enabling the error correction . Of course the benefit from clocking CPU higher is more than the "supposed" slow down of the ECC .
OK that boot correctly with 2*1go Gskill F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ
and an E6600es Step 5.
Biostar TForce P965 Deluxe
http://www.biostar.com.tw/news/TForce_P965_Deluxe.html
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/biostar/biostart965.jpg
Market Segment: Mid-Range/Performance
CPU Interface: Socket T (Socket 775)
CPU Support: LGA775-based Pentium 4, Celeron D, Pentium D, Core 2 Duo
Chipset: Intel P965 + ICH8R
Bus Speeds: 266 to 500 in 1MHz Increments
Memory Speeds: Auto, 533, 667, 800
PCIe Speeds: Auto, CPU, Fixed at 100MHz, 100MHz~200MHz
PCI: Fixed at 33
Dynamic Tuning: V6 Tech - 10%~15% \ V8 Tech - 15%~25% \ V12 Tech - 25%~30%
Core Voltage: Startup, 1.10000V to 1.80000V in 0.00625V increments
CPU Clock Multiplier: Auto, 6x-11x in 1X increments if CPU is unlocked
DRAM Voltage: 1.8V, 2.0V, 2.1V, 2.2V
DRAM Timing Control: SPD, 8 Options
FSB Termination Voltage: Auto, 1.2V, 1.3V, 1.4V, 1.5V
NB/SB Voltage: Auto,1.5V, 1.6V, 1.7V, 1.8V
Memory Slots: Four 240-pin DDR2 DIMM Slots \Dual-Channel Configuration \Regular Unbuffered Memory to 8GB Total
Expansion Slots: 1 - PCIe X16 \ 1 - PCIe X4 \ 1 - PCIe X1 \ 3 - PCI Slots 2.3
Onboard SATA/RAID: 6 SATA 3Gbps Ports \ Intel ICH8R \ (RAID 0,1,1+0,5,JBOD)
Onboard IDE: 1 Standard ATA133/100/66/33 Port (2 drives) \ VIA VT6410
Onboard USB 2.0/IEEE-1394: 10 USB 2.0 Ports - 6 I/O Panel 4 Headers
Onboard LAN: Gigabit Ethernet Controller \ Realtek RTL 8110SC
Onboard Audio: Realtek ALC883 HD-Audio 8-channel CODEC
Power Connectors: ATX 24-pin, 4-pin EATX 12V
I/O Panel: 1 x Serial \ 1 x PS/2 Keyboard \ 1 x PS/2 Mouse \ 1 x RJ45 \ 6 x USB 2.0/1.1 \ 8-Channel Audio I/O
BIOS Revision: AWARD ip96a614 , 14juin2006
9XCode:Test system :
Tforce 965p deluxe bios 614
E6600 ES step 5
2* 1go Gskill F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ
Tuniq Tower 120
Speedstep disable via le bios
fsb voltage 1.4v
nb/sb voltage 1.6v
Vdimm 2.2vbios , ~2.11v
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=107667
http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/107667.png
7X
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=107672
http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/107672.png
Super Pi mod 1.5 1M @ 3ghz , DDR2 800mhz bios ,
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/6600es/3003mhz_1M.PNG
Super Pi mod 1.5 1M @3379mhz , ddr2 533 bios ,
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/6600es/3379.PNG
..i cant change DDR2 timming via bios , It doesnt Boot And I cant see Mem frequence/timing under windows :stick:
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/6600es/3200.PNG
Hello Pt1t,
I have two dimms of D9DCN but I don't find how to activate the ECC in the bios of the P5W DH. I have the 701 bios.
Does somebody know how to do ?
Thanks
Whats the max fsb do u think u'd get out of such a basic mobo with a bios update?
With old bios , the Gigabyte's motherboard (ds3,4 , dq6) did ~ 380fsb, and now more of 470mhz...Quote:
Originally Posted by Owen1978
I hope it 'll do the same on biostar tforce :) , Bios is first one from 06-14
Non , je ne sais pas , sur l aopen il y a avait la fonction :fact:Quote:
Originally Posted by antoine76
How hot is the NB @380fsb?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pt1t
It isnt hot. +- 35° cQuote:
Originally Posted by Owen1978
what's that realtek pci gbit controller doing on this mobo? :slapass:
The bios
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/biostar/bios0.jpg
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/biostar/bios1.jpg
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/biostar/bios2.jpg
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/biostar/bios3.jpg
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/biostar/bios4.jpg
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/biostar/bios5.jpg
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/biostar/bios6.jpg
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/biostar/bios7.jpg
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/biostar/bios8.jpg
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/biostar/bios9.jpg
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/biostar/bios10.jpg
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/biostar/bios11.jpg
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/biostar/bios12.jpg
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/biostar/bios13.jpg
I received a new bios from biostar this morning.
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/biostar/Ip96a803.rar
E6600es Step 5
vcore 1.5v
vdimm 2.2v (bios)
Tuniq tower 120
2*1go Gskill p6400 ..HZ
antec TPII 500w
Matrox millenium II
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=109491
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/6600es/1M_450X9.PNG
quick fsb max with X6
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=109492
http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/109492.png
But i m always looking for good software to overclock in windows , Clockgen and setfsb dont work ...
Very nice....
Quote:
Originally Posted by pcdoc1
+ 100mhz fsb with new bios , VFSB and V NB/SB in auto.
Just need a working Clockgen
and
Vdimm mod ^^
on multi 9x, how high fsb do you feel stable to bench 3dmark and spi??
Vdimm mod is a must....:D
holy crap! This is a very very impressive board now!
try systool for overclocking
tried , :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by vapb400
I m going to test stability and 3d this week-end , got too much work before :mad:
now i gotta have one of these too
awesome job
cant wait to see max @9x
Pt1t - nice job in testing out the board. One more choice of a possibly low priced performance oriented board. Any idea what sort of caps they are using on the board? I believe in good caps == long lasting reliable board. :)
Thanks in advance.
look like a board who got a lot of potential
1,8v on the nb is nice too , 450 fsb @ how much voltage?
somebody know where to buy online in europe?
450fsb @ 1.6vQuote:
Originally Posted by Rol-Co
Yep i know where to buy it, IN belgium :banana:
I'm having issue with not being able to set cas manually in bios. My Mushkin HP5300 I'm trying in there has spd of 3-4-4-8 at 4200 and when I set ram multi to 233 ie 4200 to max fsb I can't get even 333mhz stable due to ram :(. Even at default fsb, I can't assign cas manually to 4,5 or it won't post.
will try new bios and report back
retail 6300 on watercooling
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/biostar/Ip96a803.rar
but i allready posted it on previous page.
wow that's a big difference with the new bios
Thanks for the bios Pt1t :toast:
Here is a modified version with following changes:
**Unofficial Release**
For: Biostar TForce P965 Deluxe (Broadwater-6A79L0009C)
**Unofficial Release**
Bios version: IP96A803TSA
Changes compared to bios IP96A803
Fixed 1001 one typos
Added DMI information
Updated Memtest86+ v1.60 -> v1.65 (for Core 2 support)
Added RAS to CAS Delay (tRCD) 1 & 2 CLK options
Added RAS Precharge (tRP) 1 & 2 CLK options
Added Write Recovery Time (tWR) 1 & 2 CLK options
Added Internal Write to Read Command Delay (tWTR) 1 CLK option
Added Spread Spectrum option
Added Auto Detect PCI Clocks option
Added Enable / Disable L1 & L2 Cache option
- The Stilt - 08/04/2006
I´m currently using this very same build and it is working fine.
IP96A803TSA
Use included WinFlash to update the bios.
Ensure that you have "Update All" box ticked.
:toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stilt
Link and price? realy interested, got a crappy infinity and a good asus here, wanna try this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pt1t
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/biostar/memtest.jpg
Memtest is working fine :D
can you run memory below 1:1
no , there is only , 533 - 667 - and 800 in bios. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Linky not workin'Quote:
Originally Posted by Pt1t
here you go:Quote:
Originally Posted by LowRun
http://www.compumsa.be/scripts/foxis...Item?id_art=43
SLI on Biostar TForce P965, sure :D
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2143183
http://www.armada.fi/TForce_P965/TFo...00GT_SLI-2.jpg
The slots are actualling working with x16 & x4 speeds, so it is not a bug.
http://www.overclocking-masters.com/...-duo,t3427.htm
my thread on overclocking-masters :D
super 1M @ 475 fsb, it can do little more but i directly tried 500mhz and ... it crashed after 1sec :mad:
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/biostar/1M_475X8.PNG
i don't understand.........so you're saying 1:1 and higher......533 should be 1:1 yeah?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pt1t
Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
it s 533 minimum for 266fsb
Not working either :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferry82
What's the error?
The site has just opened, so the dns are maybe not redirected for usa...
One question to The Stilt: How can you run sli on it when it only has one PEG-slot?
Cut the plastic at the back of the PCI-e x4 slot so you can put a PCI-e x16 card in it ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by elmor
wow this board is really giving the pack a run for their money!
hhmm newegg doesnt even have this baord... odd.
because i have a 6600 i always gotta ask.
what are you guys, in general seeing for 9x multi's for max bootable FSB>
i just bought this board, gonna test it now and will sell this if it is worse than my DQ6! :(
So, most of the pins are just for show, or are they only needed when running it in a higher-speeded PEG?Quote:
Originally Posted by DaWaN
They are needed for higher speed PCI-E 8x -> 16x.Quote:
Originally Posted by elmor
This mobo is looking nice.:eek:
Is this board "world wide " sold out ? :p: if no, where to get one :cool:
Quote:
Originally Posted by irenic
Where? How? Everywhere internationally has been sold out for over two weeks.
no doubt this board isnt anywhere on the major Etailers websites
even TD doesnt show it.
I've found it OOS on several German etailors sites. One of them may have been in stock, K&M, (which is like a German Fry's I believe) but my German is a little rusty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
I called them but they can`t deliver the board till 10 september :rolleyes: . Me want 9 x 500 in stead of 9 x 400, can`t wait for rd 600 :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Btrice
It figures, I would have had somebody grab me one if they had it. :( Thanks for the effort dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pjoeloe
LOL where did you get it for that price. cheapest i can find in belgium is €269 :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pt1t
people who want the board cheap but no hurry look here
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/6VqXB...=7560&agid=396
I found that site earlier, 31.08.2006 , :cool: , that`s almost 3 freaking weeks :p: , I want it now :) . With a little luck I have this board next week.
same hereQuote:
Originally Posted by Pjoeloe
ik heb al een topic op tweakers
I have no problem waiting, I just wonder about the shipping costs to the states. Also probably a stupid question but the bios probably is in German right? Do they typically have multiple languages in one BIOS setup or would I have to reflash with an English version (if there even is one)? I don't want to have to call my bro every time I need to tweak a setting. LOL
Quote:
Originally Posted by Btrice
from a local pc shop here in malaysia. Cost me 490bucks in my currency which should be around US$130 ;)
Ah that is right, I remember reading in one of your posts that you lived there, you guys get all the cool stuff first LOL :p:
just wanna share the screenies.. everything in bios at default.
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5433/biostarfj3.jpg