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http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X6800-B2/4.JPG
http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X6800-B2/5.JPG
http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X6800-B2/X6800-1.JPG
It's not better than E6600 Stepping 5. Maybe everybody doesn't buy now.........
4Ghz not to bad .. nice box :)
Those are pretty disappointing results...
What cooling?
yes it's disappointing result, specially for X6800 proc. :(
we got trolls
Nice box shots :D!
255C means phase change i think heh
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Originally Posted by Benny Lodewijk
Tower 120
asus biobooster sometimes report that (255) for some reason then after another second it jumps back to normal temp
I've seen what an E6600 @ 3.6 can do in gaming. I can't imagine 4GHz. Crikey that must be fast. How about trying 3dmark06 with Crossfire?
crap, I ran SuperPI 32M @ 3975MHz on my E6600 B1
also why is it disapointed?? its power consumption is 75W at stock . more heat.. harder to OC compare to E6700's 65W. I think X6800 is for those who have either LN2, or phase.
sierra bound E6600 4.05GHz on air:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=105453
coolaler's E6700 4.15GHz on air:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=104484
yet i dont see any results in the OC section about X6800 on air. Most of the X6800 OC r either phase, LN2 or TEC.
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Originally Posted by malficar
My E6600 Stepping 5 can do 3.9G SP2004 X2, but X6800 is nothing to do.
Nice. I hope I get an E6600 like yours, and IMO that's the best buy.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreYang
this is starting to worry me... all these retail procs not doin as well as earlier ES's... im aware that its only a small batch so far but i cant help but get worried...
perhaps i should be actively looking to find an older ES E6600 rather than purchasing a new/retail one..
any thoughts?
What voltage is that.
This is quite a disappointment. :(
It's so bad...................cannot pass 3.8G SP2004
http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X6800-B2/X6800-2.JPG
If that's true, then the lower end models will OC the best.Quote:
Originally Posted by brentpresley
We will have to see what Retail E6700 and E6600 do. It could be a "total turn off" for the X6800 if they all clock between 3.6-3.8Ghz
Hmmm, I just love the hype! Time will tell won't it.....:)
(No chance the ES's where juiced... Can't be) :nono:
What hype ? Conroe on stock speed isn't hype at all. They destroy everything on the market.
Now we all know Overclocking is more luck than anything. If there is any hype, it's the one people made themselves with Step 5 ES chip. (step 3-4 wasn't overclocking that nice either.)
more trolls
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Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle
Wait, so anyone who doesn't worship 24/7 at the altar of Conroe is a troll? WOW HOW AMAZING!
I've been awaiting this proc for months. I already had a 6700 step 5. I wanted something faster and I'm ready to pay for it. Now it looks like I have no options whatsoever. :( Pardon me for being frustrated when it doesn't even match most of the 6600 ES results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle
I never really saw a Conroe on air above 4.2 I believe (or around that) even if its the x6800. I figured the results would be around this with any on air... give or take a few mhz. Throw in some serious cooling and thats where it will shine.
There is only so much you can do with air cooling lol
liek i said all we have seen so far are E6600 and E6700 on air in intel and the overclocking sections. No one used aircooling on X6800 in the past several months, its all phase/ln2 on X6800 to break WR. When retail E6600 , 6700 are out we will see whther or not retail is better than B1.
X6800's 75W at stock speed compare to the E6700's 65W ...
Perhaps there is still hope...though I don't see how these will magically do so much better on phase when they are so far behind on air.
this is interesting...
bad news because it doesnt OC as high as the ESs
good news because it looks like the chipset maxing out will NOT be my biggest problem, and maybe phase on the e6600 WONT be a huge waste...
it is one chip people
and andre showed you that it had one bad core... so why are you :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:ing its one cpu.... with a bad core....
the cores are never going to be equal
so automatically, you consider the lesser core a 'bum' core
hell i did/do/will do it too
LOL - funny thread
Any shot of the E6600 box??
:toast:
Nice pics...
was that the one from ebay?
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Originally Posted by AndrewZorn
your wrong dead wrong
when one core dies at such a low clock its bad.. seen this many many times
experienced it myself several times.
Lestat, no. What are you smoking? Whatever it is, it must be good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
His core isn't dead, nor is it "bad". He has a fully working X6800. In dual-core CPUs, each core is not identical to the other. They are each individual cores with their own limits. One core overclocking higher than the other is perfectly normal. The only bad thing here is the poor overclockability of his X6800.
Maybe Intel nerfed the overclock to insure people will still upgrade, after all 4ghz on air for one of these is rather shocking. With that much horsepower, games wouldn't be CPU bound for a year or two.
3.766G is no problem.
http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X6800-B2/X6800-3.JPG
yeah but thats hot!!! 68c
yeah its more of a subconscious thingQuote:
Originally Posted by thunderstruck!
one of my cores on my opterons always failed first... like clockwork. unless your cores are within like 10mhz max of each other (unlikely) you are going to start calling one the bum core.
besides the fact that the reason the 2nd core keeps going longer after the first one dies is the reduced heat and whatnot
like, if the cores WERE equal, and one failed, and another kept going... it now has a lesser chance of failing within, say, the next 10 seconds than it did when both cores were running...
/reminds me of the conspiracy that AMD was putting one 'bum core' on every X2 just "so that everyone wouldn't just overclock it to 4800+ speeds"... what a laugh that was
Its just typical variation. Not every chip is a super clocker. Heck, my x6800 is a modest clocker as well. Still pretty f'ing fast at "only" 3.8ghz 24/7 ;)
Anyone else notice this/have this?
on his screenshot ; cpu-z ; mainboard---it says version.....AGP 2.0
They made an Agp version?
Mine clearly says pci-express
BTW what do you guys use form taking screenshots? and at what screen resolution? printscreen?
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Originally Posted by Tallman
I use """PCI"""" Matrox G450, so it shows AGP............
Ah, I was assuming it was referring to motherboard interface, not card interface.
Sorry, noob here.
And about the screenshots?
It's the key on your keyboard that says PRT SCR which means Print Screen. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallman
Then just paste it into paint or any graphics program...
Agreed. 1 or 2 chips shown should not be assumed to be indicative of all retail B2 stepping CPUs.Quote:
Originally Posted by mdzcpa
I would rather have FCG's Camaro anyway, but its a little more expensive than a X6800 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by freecableguy
Aslong as my e6600 does 3.3 or something, I'll be happy because it's still going to be a lot faster than my old 2.6ghz X2
I learn every day on this forumQuote:
Originally Posted by gocchin
:p:
Why are you all disappointed?
3.8GHz is still great! You'll never be happy if you always want more and more.
Heck, I'm happy that my E6300 ES does 2.8 GHz w/1.18v on stock cooling. Knocks my 2.9 GHz Opty 165 for 6 :fact:Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
Now only if i had a better mobo :nono:
I'm not sure if he's talking about the OP?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle
Hey KITT,the Gigabyte DS3 is looking to be a solid board man.I am thinking about getting one.Still no luck with the P5W-DH ? Damn thats too bad man...
Check my post on TE later regarding the gigabyte ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Darklord
LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Iconyu
Will check.Anyways the Teamgroup 667 you is 3-4-4 or 3-3-3- ? cos i checked at the tankguys and the 3-4-4- is cheaper and the newer 3-3-3 is around 250 $ hence i am going for Gskill 2GBHZ :(Quote:
Originally Posted by K.I.T.T.
"Four legs good, two legs better". Orwell.
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Originally Posted by SMa
Because E6600 Stepping 5 is too stronger, it is easy to oc 3.9G.
damn, sad to hear
I'm happy I bought a 6600ES step 5 :)
Just to bring this up from a couple pages back but what are you on about theteamaqua....Quote:
Originally Posted by theteamaqua
The TDP is what you can design point for the CPU at stock speed, take a X6800 down to E6700 speeds by dropping the multiplier by one and it'll be sitting at the 65w TDP as well.....
I theory the X6800 will be a higher binned part than the E6700 and so the silicon should be higher quality, but you'll always get the odd 'alien' chip on the lower speed grades, same as you'll see some higher bin chips that disappoint to some degree. Since more retail chips will be produced than Engineering Samples assume there will be a greater degree of speed binning.
And lets face it, a Core 2 at 'only' 3.8GHz will be faster than a LN2 cooled FX-60/62 system anyway, and on air you are likely to see higher clock speeds and a greater IPC ;)
That's completely beside the point. How about you just leave AMD out of the discussion altogether? The ES chips made everyone think 50% OC was there on a plate and now the retail chips won't do it. If I'd bought a retail X6800, like Andre I'd be gutted with these benchmarks too. As it is I've bought a retail E6700 in the expectation that the performance would be a quantum leap faster than what I already have. That expectation has taken a hit. I live in hope, as ever, but that's all there is to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thorburn
Why do you think this is even true? This is a sample of 2 retail chip so far. Are you really ready to tell us you form your opinion based off of 2 chips?Quote:
Originally Posted by stone_cold_Jimi
Furthermore, did you bother to even read some of the replies on this thread? Not every ES chip was a super overclocker. Many ES X6800 did only 3.6 to 3.8ghz. When I posted up my thread about my ES X6800 running in the 3.8ghz range for 24/7 use two weeks ago, I received numerous PMs from others in the same boat.
I think folks need to relax a little.
Life is all about expectations....
1/ it wasn't long ago that FCG said "4 GHz on air, trust me"
2/ Several regulars here seem to have bought the X6800 retail. Number who have posted amazing 4GHz+ results = 0.
Let me be miserable now so I can cheer up when my chip arrives and is stunning. ;)
i dont think their will be much speed binning this early on. i to would be disapointed with the X6800 that andrea has. especialy since E6600 are clocking just as good.
Also all you people with ES chips sayin your glad you bought a ES?
intel apparently is instructing mobo makers to drop support for ES chips with new bios updates. so your chip wont work unless u stay with the old bios.
Fair enough :) I sincerely wish you the best of luck and that you end up with a super clocker:toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by stone_cold_Jimi
May I quote PE: "Don't believe the hype..."
Quote:
Don't believe the hype - its a sequel
As an equal, can I get this through to you
My 98's boomin' with a trunk of funk
All the jealous punks can't stop the dunk
Comin' from the school of hard knocks
Some perpetrate, they drink Clorox
Attack the black, cause I know they lack exact
The cold facts, and still they try to Xerox
Leader of the new school, uncool
Never played the fool, just made the rules
Remember there's a need to get alarmed
Again I said I was a timebomb
In the daytime the radio's scared of me
'Cause I'm mad, plus I'm the enemy
They can't c'mon and play with me in primetime
'Cause I know the time, plus I'm gettin' mine
I get on the mix late in the night
They know I'm livin' right, so here go the mike, sike
Before I let it go, don't rush my show
You try to reach and grab and get elbowed
Word to herb, yo if you can't swing this
Just a little bit of the taste of the bass for you
As you get up and dance at the LQ
When some deny it, defy if I swing bolos
Then they clear the lane I go solo
The meaning of all of that
Some media is the whack
You believe it's true, it blows me through the roof
Suckers, liars get me a shovel
Some writers I know are damn devils
For them I say don't believe the hype
Yo Chuck, they must be on a pipe, right?
Their pens and pads I'll snatch
'Cause I've had it
I'm not an addict fiendin' for static
I'll see their tape recoreder and grab it
No, you can't have it back silly rabbit
I'm going' to my media assassin
Harry Allen, I gotta ask him
Yo Harry, you're a writer, are we that type?
Don't believe the hype
I got flavor and all those things you know
Yeah boy, part two bum rush and show
Yo Griff, get the green black red and
Gold down countdown to Armageddon
-88 you wait the S1Ws will
Rock the hard jams - treat it like a seminar
Teach the bourgeoise, and rock the boulevard
Some sau I'm negative
But they're not positive
But what I got to give...
The media says this
Until some form of confirmation can be made, this is simply a rumor. A bad one at that. Even so, I've never been one to hop to the latest BIOS anyway. I've been running bug free on my Bad Axe 24/7 for a few weeks now. No need for another BIOS :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Pandamonia
This is retarded. Over at [H] me poncho and donnie were talking about the Conroe cpu after IDF and we were all hoping to get 3.2ghz out of the 6600.
I was really hoping for 3.2 ghz as that is what my wife wanted . because she had a P4c 3.2 ghz. Well she lucked out and got a retail X6800 and Bad ass M/B from her bother inlaw for $600 total. It is running at 3.85 ghz DDR@ 667 @ DDR2 700 @ 1:1 using Corsair 5400ul @ 3-2-2-8 with the cpu bus speed of 350 and FSB of 1400. So we are very pleased. Her brother inlaw said he could hook me up with a Kentsfield for about the same money when he can get his hands on a retail model. So were not dissapointed in the Conroe CPU at all. Fact is were really very happy with our watercooled setup.
Huh? That's backwards, no? (Havn't read animal farm in a while though, correct me if wrong).Quote:
Originally Posted by stone_cold_Jimi
Disappointing, I hope you just got a bad chip :/
I agree. before seeing insane ES clock, we were all dreaming of 3.2-3.6Ghz.
We didn't even believe FCG (I think it's him) when he said 4Ghz on air would be possible. That was a insane comment not even 5 weeks ago.
Maybe the last ES were hand picked, but the hype of the first ES is still there. The only thing bad about this is the X6800 have much less interest now.
Fact is....even at 3.6GHz, this is equivalent to a FX-62 speed no AMD (not just the FX-62....) has ever reached, and the Conroe's 24/7 stable at 3.6 on air. Like all overclocking, there will be some gems that WILL hit 4GHz (heck, 4GHz air stability has already happened, just depends how stable you want it).
Many of the whitebox Step 5s WERE handpicked (OCAU getting to 4GHz 1M stable, stock cooler, low volts...), but these are still damn good, especially considering they have a warranty and a gorgeous box.
EDIT: by handpicked I mean the whole Stepping 5...yes there have been bad ones, but the average is GREAT, and the top ones are just insane....Step 6 may turn out to be the same way after more samples, but it's just too early to tell, let's be honest.
Definitely need more population to conclude on these.
The X6800 is a $1000 cpu. My wife wouldn't have one if I had to pay that much for it. Its not that I couldn't afford it . Its just that were not extreme O/Cers which this chip is meant for. For us stability @ a fair O/C is all we want . and Conroe did not disappoint. The first time I read that Conroe did 4ghz on air I fell out of my chair in disbelief. When it hit 5ghz I was stunned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vric
Its time to just let the trolls troll while we enjoy are Intel goodness. As more and more people step back into the light.
Your wife is interested in ocing? wow..Quote:
Originally Posted by Turtle 1
yeah but conroe aren't cool running cpus once volts are shoved up themQuote:
Originally Posted by theteamaqua
click on image for full screenie
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...me_load_tn.png
:D
Have you tried overclocking only with the multi?
15x266 or something like that
So, thats a retail eva?? If so then nice :)Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
Where did you get that sp2004 beta?
nah not retail... E6600 B1/Step 5 ;)
orthos beta http://sp2004.fre3.com/beta/beta2.htm
Oh yeh, didn't see the stepping 5.Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
Thanks :)
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Originally Posted by gocchin
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Originally Posted by SMa
Uhmm...I guess I wasn't clear enough. I mean, is the printscreen the method you guys use, or do you use something else? And what res do you take them at to make them visible on this forum, or does it matter?
I knew how to use printscreen. I'm not THAT noob.:D
Im sure a lot of us use the print screen method and no, the resolution does not matter as long as you dont make everybody load a 10mb picture.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallman
Thank you for clarifying that
my way http://i4memory.com/announcement.php?f=55&a=2 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallman
Very nice . thanks.
Making fonts readable was what I was worried about as far as my concern with res went.
i'm on 1600x1200 hehe
Ya . I made a hugh mistake about a year ago and let her game on my dothan gaming system . Since than I had to fight with her to use my own gaming pc. The thing that really gets me is she is way better gamer than me(better with the keyboard) and she uses gaming cheats.Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
Ya and she helps me do research I had no Idea that she could learn this stuff. She is good very good.
No . She hasn't She keeps her front cover locked so I haven't used very much at all. I did try to get into the bios but she learned well and has it locked.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeToNaToR.cl
an oc'ers dream or nightmare :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Turtle 1
edit: read last post okay nightmare LOL
Mmmm..maybe they HAVE binned them and THAT'S why these X6800 don't go thru the roof. Did you ever think they might be binning the high overclockers for the X6900s? Possibly the 3.33Ghz versions. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by brentpresley
oh how depressing, ONLY a ONE GHZ overclock.
:rolleyes:
That's not a bad assumption at all. They probably limit it just enough to be the top in the market. Then milk it for a while then unlock some more for upgrade. It makes sense to save some $$ in developing bleeding edge every 3 months or so. There is probably a Intel Omega and AMD Optimus @ 5ghz already. With the ram price fixing recently I wouldnt be suprise if they are doing the same in cpu industry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iconyu
dont underestimate greed..;)
ROFLMAO :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
and maybe they only are from a different factory than ES.
If intel want good availability, there is more than one factory that are making them..
So, it just lucky to have one good overclocker reatil Conroe? That's really bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vric
question: There is a way to see the stepping out-side the box like de old amd boxes?
q2: Anybody knows if is true that the B2 are with microcode Mhz roof? Couse' if its true, the Conroe v/s 939/am2 overclock will be pointless, and the only solution to this madness would be wait to the AMD's 65nm response.
Heh, it's grim. I've had that and more out of an AMD x2, thought we were moving on here. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by charlie
I'd be happy to OC my 6800 to 3.2 or 3.6 range, i'd never want more than 3.6Ghz, as i don't want the damn thing to get too hot, nor do i want to add super cooling solutions, i figure a Tower120 is enough and if i can hit 3.6Ghz with the 6800 so be it, if not, i will for sure hit 3.2Ghz which is good enough for me.
Interesting results Andre..Thanks for sharing the B2's with us :toast:
You should try Screenshooter. It's a simple app which creates an image file (at the destination folder you've chosen) when you press Print Scrn. You get to chose what format it should be and what quality the image will have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallman
I always use PNG @ 0% quality which mostly results in 30kB (at 1920x1200 res) images with lossless image quality.
so let me get this straight if X6800 can only do 3.8GHz in tower 120...
then:
E6700: 3.5Ghz
E6600: 3.2Ghz
and so on ..
is this scenario likely to happen?? no way to hit 400fsb on stock multi anyway, so 965 chipset is good enough ?
As of right now, I would say if you can find E66 or 67/stepping 5-B1's grab them quick. ;)
I'd be worried about errata. Given a choice between a five or six stepping, I'd choose six in a flash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynasty