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Hi there, my lovely E6600ES arrived yesterday and I was messing around a bit with it. I'm using a Scythe Ninja to cool the cpu. At standard voltage it's already at 50° in BIOS and goes up to 60° when primed. Roomtemp is ~25-26°. Can anyone else tell me his temps? (in case you don't know which tool: everest home -> computer -> sensors)
is this on the badaxe? ppl have been reporting high sensor temps on that board,
I would recommend not using more than 1.6v with air cooling. 1.5-1.55v is probably better. The BIOS temp readings on some of these boards are nowhere close to being accurate. On the Bad Axe, the BIOS temp may say 60C, when it's actually closer to 30C when measured with a probe.
50C with stock voltage sounds way too high. You should be idling in the 30's.
Yep indeed. Bad Axe 304 newest bios. Got a link on that?
Well that's what scares me, but if you're confirming that the bad axe is reading too high, I'm fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by sierra_bound
I had an application that i picked up from the Yonah thread that read the core temp direct from the CPU, this was much more accurate than the motherboard. It does not seem to work with the Asus p5W DH and an 805... might work with Conroe. http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com...opic.php?t=137
Give it a try. and see if it works...may give a better indication of temp!
i'm on water with e6600 on badaxe, bios idles at stock vcore 31C and at 1.418v vcore idles at 34C... load temps are 34-38C in windows according to everest heh
Just read the details and says it does conroe temps off the die :) http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com...opic.php?t=137
Hm thanks for that eva2000, I feel much better now :P
@simonmaltby
core temp has the same value as the bios
WHY is this pos cpu so hot?
Come on guys, I'm not willing to buy a new cooler for nothing. Gimme more temps! ;)
Have you tried using the Intel Utilities Program? It's on the motherboard CD. It's a little accurate than the BIOS as far as reading temps.
Are you 100% sure that you have good HS contact. Might be worth taking off, cleaning and reseating?
how you ascertain that ?Quote:
Originally Posted by sierra_bound
A friend has the Bad Axe. He used a thermal probe to determine the truth. BIOS read 60C. Utilities program read 45C. Probe read 30-35C.
I also had a Bad Axe. Temps in BIOS were always very high. I just ignored them.
I already took off the cooler and lapped the IHS, but it was already flat. I tried the programm Core Temp, but it also gave me results as high as 60°C. I found a thread here where many people got problems with the BIOS readings. But what about "Core Temp", did it also gave such results for you? I don't feel comfortable about ignoring these temps since I don't know exactly they're misread.
interesting i'm play on water with e6600 @3810mhz at 1.453v vcore fixed via ITK modded bios and bios says 46C idle heheQuote:
Originally Posted by sierra_bound
sai i'll let ya know a bit later just doing a prelim memtest before i let it boot into windows since i'm testing a new pair of ram too heh
If you have a probe, you should test and see what results you get. My friend was getting high readings in the BIOS and decided to check for himself.
That's the problem, I don't have one.
my 6600 on badaxe 304 - 1403 bios read 55C~ in the bios idle in win 50C~
stock cooler
stock vcore
the hsf feels hot...
btw:
i got "internal temp" 10C lower the "cpu" ...
What heatsink? And is it on stock clocks/volts?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Byter
hmmm bad axe has 3 temps in bios mine at 3810mhz at 1.441v read
cpu 45C
internal 31C
remote 30C
maybe internal or remote is the internal cpu temp ?
intel stock HSF 0.28AQuote:
Originally Posted by taemun
all stock
Ain't that Northbridge and Southbridge temps? BTW do I need to disable speedstep in windows or will it work when I just switch it off in BIOS. I'm asking because FCG made this Speedstep disabling tutorial? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
E6600 QPGE Step 5/B1 / Intel D975XBX Badaxe rev304 temperatures
Well here's some temperature readings but not sure which is right. Most badaxes owners say bios temps are +10C higher than reality.
@9x266fsb = 2400mhz stock vcore 1.242v
Room temp = 24.8C right now
Bios cpu temp = 30-31C
Windows Idle = 27C/25C for core#1/core#2 most of the time but fluctuates by +3C for both cores at times.
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...le_25C_27C.png
Windows Load (dual stressprime) = 37C/37C for core#1/core#2
click image for larger pic
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...37C_37C_tn.png
Will do oc'd temps later :)
Any more input guys?
Hm so what to do now? Just ignore that and keep below 1.5v? i'm sure it'll go up to 70° with 1.5v and decent oc, well shouldn't be harmful anyway considering the tcasemax of 85° ?
Whats the fuss all about just touch the heatsink. You are able to feel the temp pretty well. Or buy yourself a cheap temperature measuremeter. (Thats what I did, I dont trust any temprature sensors)
Well if the heatsink is not sitting well, it won't get hot. But since the Scythe is a big ass HS, I can't really tell if that's ok or not just by touching, cause it warms up really slowly. Guess I'll have to get a temp probe then.
If heatsink isn't hot by touching there are 2 possible explanations - contact is really bad, or CPU is just as cool as you feel. If CPU had very high temp, heatsink would have very high temp as well. When I touch my prescott heatsink under high load, reading temps in 60+ then it is hot as hell;
Another strange thing is, when you switch the Comp on, it only takes about 10 seconds or so for the CPU to reach that high temperature. In Fact I haven't seen any temp under 40° so far. I'll keep an eye on this when I come home later.
P.S.: HS is far away from being too hot to touch. It's just a bit warm. Shouldn't overclocking be nearly impossible if it would really idle at 60° ?
Yes, but the problem is probably not the board, temps look quite correct in Everest with Pentium D on Bad Axe 304.Quote:
Originally Posted by m0da
Well my prescott craps out around 78 C if I overclock too high, I don't think you should worry about these temps if you sure contact is good and heatsink isn't very hot - probably some bug, but where is the bug and how to fix it, that is another issue. I had temp readings problems on my old Celly when I tried new bios for some MSI mobo, but in your case all programs show same ... Anyway you can try flashing some other bios and see if you get diffrent readings.
My 6600 duel priming under water, 3.4 Ghz on stock volts I think as I havent unlocked the vcrore option on the motherboard yet.
30 deg idle 45 Deg load.
http://img284.imageshack.us/img284/4...ours5zw.th.jpg
Hm this is gettin wierd, some have problems and some not.
how hot is the air blowing off the heatsink ? is it pretty warm ?
i know with my XP-90 and XP-120.. if the cpu is hot the air blowing off the heatsink is definately warm also.
is it possible for you to take a picture of how much thermal paste your using and what brand of paste ?
and dont forget put the heatsink on and go from one corner then the opposite corner on the other side then back and forth thru all 4 screws.
make sure you dont tighten one side first or 1/2 way then the other.. tight all screws the same go around and around all four screws until they are tight.
people dont realise how much a difference it makes when you tighten a heatsink evenly vs doing it in a goofy pattern.
i always go 2 turns on one, then kitty corner to the other side, then back to the other side on the other screw so
top left, bottom right, top left bottom right, that will start it on an even pattern, then go top right, bottom left a few tims then back and forth until its TIGHT. make sure she is nice and firmly mounted.
its possible the cpu die isnt contacting the IHS very well also i guess.
those temps are way too high for your voltages since its a lower wattage cpu.
The ninja doesn't use screws to mount it. It's just "clipped" on a frame. Thermal grease is alright for sure.
Anyone of you touched the backplate of the mobo? Cause mine seems to be pretty warm/hot under the socket
here's idle temps 33/34C on my E6600 @3750mhz at 1.441v vcore on water (need to click on image for full screenie)
@9x416fsb with ram @416mhz 4-4-4-15
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975..._single_tn.png
vcore = 1.441v
mch = 1.725v
fsb bolt = 1.395v
vdimm = 2.2v
My bad axe also has temps hot like hell.... I'm also using a Ninja and it idles around 55C in the bios. The intel utilites is still a little better but at around 50C. This is with 1.375v. I just ignore it...
which bios ya using gocchin ? tried 1304 yet ?
I'm using 1304
Soooo I'm back now. Dual priming at 1.475v and 3650Mhz. All temp readings say about 80° for both cores. Heatsink is about as hot as DDR2 ram at 2.1v passive cooled. The heatpipes right above the cpu are about 50° I'd say, it's no problem touching them but they are clearly hot. So now it's clear that I have good contact to the IHS, maybe the IHS has bad contact to the core? So what do you guess the cpu temp is? 60°? 70°?
BTW I wouldn't be able to overclock it to 3.65 if it was really 85° huh?
P.S.: Right away after I coldbooted and went into BIOS, Idle temp was 60° and didn't change to anything higher than 62° after a while. Pretty wierd...
Edit: I placed a temp probe in the middle of the scythe Ninja (the hole in the middle) and temperature says 37°C. 38° pressed against the heatpipes.
We just got a 'Bad Axe' for a lab compatibilty pc at work. It's got a pent D 805 at stock voltage, stock clocks, stock heatsink. It reads 80 deg C at idle, in bios. the heatsink is warm, but no where's close to 80 deg - if it were, it would burn your hand. moral of my story, not all 'Bad Axes' are off by the same amount... some might not be off. use your best judgment, or get a temp probe. And maybe complain to Intel so they get it fixed, if fixable by bios... or hand the issue off to SMSC, if it is an issue with their hardware monitoring chip >.> lol
I don't care about it anymore. I'm already at 3.8ghz and I don't think with 85° I wouldn't even come near that!
yeah don't think it's correct although mine seems probable though considering i'm on H20 3809mhz at 1.441v 33/34C idle
@9x423fsb with ram @423mhz 4-4-4-8
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975..._single_tn.png
Yeah i need faster memory for better times!
vcore = 1.441v
mch = 1.725v
fsb bolt = 1.395v
vdimm = 2.2v
I believe it was FCG and one other member that reported temps on the Bad Axe reading as much as 15-20c to high.
i used a probe and its show 10 degrees lower from what everest says.
i got freezer 7 pro
Mine must be at least off by 15°. I'm at 83° while priming ( Celsius that is ;) )
*holy god of oc forgive me*
Guess it's phase change time soon. hehe
My BadAxe BIOS hasn't ever read less than 50 in its entire life, even at stock volts/clock with water cooling immediately upon powerup. It seems to be about 20 high. Intel's hardware monitor program is about 10 less than the BIOS but it's still nonsense IMO.
Core Temp is wrong too if you have a Rev 4 Conroe (AFAIK only the rev 4 has this bug). It reads exactly 25C high. Note it is the on-die temp rather than the temp outside the CPU so you can run a little hotter than you are probably expecting, and that is after you subtract 25 from the number it gives you.
At 2.6GHz (+22% over stock) Core Temp read "98" degrees for me yesterday with about 32 degree ambient temp. Ran like that for hours. Obviously, it's just plain nuts. At least the temps are consistent so you can tell what effect the stuff you are doing is having.
have you got DFI now SAI?
ok pepole i got some bad news and good news..
the bad news is that my cpu 920d is idle at 44 see pic..
and the good news.. i managed to put a probe straight on the core and it's show the same temps.. 44C`
so the sensor on my board is fine.. but the temps are too high for an 65nm at stock voltage.. speed, wiht freezer 7 pro HSF
Dual Stressprime 2004 idle and load temps:
Room ambient: 25.3C
CPU idle: 33C/34C
CPU load: 59-60C for both cores
@9x416fsb = 3750Mhz
vcore = 1.441v
mch = 1.725v
fsb = 1.395
vdimm = 2.2v
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...33C_34C_tn.jpg
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975..._load_1_tn.png
This still on the same water as above? To my untrained eye the 60c load seems a little high... Maybe air isn't such a good idea (for my next system). Hmm.Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
same water... but whether 60c is real or not who knows.. could be software buggy hehe
E6600 stock is rated 65W
@3750mhz at 1.441v that's like 95W