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[First Look] Intel 965 ASUS P5B Deluxe Result
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why!!! why!!!!
same pic hahahahhahaha
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XE6800 Step 5 :slobber: :slobber: :slobber:
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lol i noticed that too, I spent like 45 seconds trying to distinguish the difference
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Is it me, or does seem somewhat limited in BIOS settings compared to the DFI Infinity board shown. Less FSB, vdimm and vcore :(
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I can tell you Conroe gets very warm with just 1.6v. I can't imagine anyone trying 1.8-1.9v on one of the other boards, especially with anything less than extreme cooling. And having up to 600 FSB in the BIOS like some of the others is pretty meaningless. It's like having a car with a speedometer that goes up to 200mph, when it's only capable to 130. I think people will be lucky to even hit 500 FSB.
Nice photos, Andre. I think you set the record for the most pics in a single post. :D ;)
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Wow... It`s a good thing I have ultra high speed internet. A Dial-up user would have commited suicide after the first 2 pics...lol:p:
good pics....the board looks great. I hope it overclocks good, and is stable without getting too hot.
Is this supposed to the budget, performance board from Asus for conroe?
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I like the lay-out but, is it 400fsb the max for CPU on the P5B? Or is that an issue that has to still be resolved?
Everything else looks good IMO.
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Originally Posted by Rocket
Wow... It`s a good thing I have ultra high speed internet. A Dial-up user would have commited suicide after the first 2 pics...lol:p:
Tell me about it:D
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Originally Posted by sierra_bound
I can tell you Conroe gets very warm with just 1.6v. I can't imagine anyone trying 1.8-1.9v on one of the other boards, especially with anything less than extreme cooling. And having up to 600 FSB in the BIOS like some of the others is pretty meaningless. It's like having a car with a speedometer that goes up to 200mph, when it's only capable to 130. I think people will be lucky to even hit 500 FSB.
Nice photos, Andre. I think you set the record for the most pics in a single post. :D ;)
True, but 400FSB maxes an E6600 at 3.6Ghz. Not that I would complain about that ;) , but if I was lucky enough to get one of these that were hitting 4Ghz on air, I would be bummed to be FSB bound ;)
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Yes, I would want more than 400FSB too. :) Usually that can be fixed with a BIOS update, as was the case with the P5W DH which now has up to 500FSB.
But the people who think they're going to do 600X9 or 600X10 with some of the other boards out there are dreaming.
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It's going to be hard to decide between this board and the gigabyte board...
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/...me=GA-965P-DQ6
the specs on this board look great...
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Waiting for 3D, this is the board I want.
But yes, a comparison with that Gigabyte board would be good too.
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Originally Posted by sierra_bound
Yes, I would want more than 400FSB too. :) Usually that can be fixed with a BIOS update, as was the case with the P5W DH which now has up to 500FSB.
But the people who think they're going to do 600X9 or 600X10 with some of the other boards out there are dreaming.
965 has one large bug. FSB 350+ need to add 2~3 MHz per time. If you add too many MHz, the mobo will be shut down and you need to clean coms.
So I discuss with ASUS RD what problems with 965 chip. ASUS didn't get retail 965 C1 chip, so we are not sure that ES chip has any different for retail 965 C1 chip.
We still wait Intel to get us retail 965 chip and try to solve these bugs.
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No doubt, for entry level Conroe buyers FSB is everything. Some are stuck in that old netburst logic. Have to remeber these chips destroy others at a sparingly 2GHz clock. I think Asus will make it right with future BIOS(s) and chips. :crossfingers:
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Originally Posted by AndreYang
965 has one large bug. FSB 350+ need to add 2~3 MHz per time. If you add too many MHz, the mobo will be shut down and you need to clean coms.
So I discuss with ASUS RD what problems with 965 chip. ASUS didn't get retail 965 C1 chip, so we are not sure that ES chip has any different for retail 965 C1 chip.
We still wait Intel to get us retail 965 chip and try to solve these bugs.
Thanks for the information, Andre. That is a pretty serious bug. Hopefully the retail board won't have that problem.
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Does it seem limited in DRAM timings to you guys?? Is that how it is with all Intel boards.. because I'm used to having 20+ timings to play around with on my DFI
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Looks like a pretty nice board, I wait for 3D and final retail BMs but otherwise I think I'm sold :)
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Originally Posted by Repoman
Does it seem limited in DRAM timings to you guys?? Is that how it is with all Intel boards.. because I'm used to having 20+ timings to play around with on my DFI
Most Intel-based boards have only the main timings in the BIOS. You can change the secondaries in Windows using a program like MemSet.
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Originally Posted by sierra_bound
Most Intel-based boards have only the main timings in the BIOS. You can change the secondaries in Windows using a program like MemSet.
MemSet don't support 965 yet.
7950 GX2 has one bug on 965 chip. So I must delay my 3D post.
7950 GX2 score is only half of 975x. That means is single 7950 GX2 cannot SLI.........I need to discuss with ASUS tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by sierra_bound
Most Intel-based boards have only the main timings in the BIOS. You can change the secondaries in Windows using a program like MemSet.
Does memset automatically apply timings at startup?
I have faith in DFI's RD600 board, need my mem timings to play with !!
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MemSet does have a save function.
Personally I've found the secondary timings on Intel boards to be important only if you're running something like SuperPi. Memory speed is generally much more important. With Conroe, you'll probably be running 1:1 or 4:5. So if your FSB is at 400 and you want to use the 4:5 ratio, you'll need memory that can do 500 (DDR2-1000).
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anyone have any idea on the prices of the 965s
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Originally Posted by matt89
anyone have any idea on the prices of the 965s
P5B is about 150$ (160€)
http://www.1000ordi.fr/16896
;)
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the asus 975 has the same bug. go over like 320 fbs and the system just shuts off when you exit the bios, or reboot from windows, or reboot from dos or anything.
i havent tried 2-3mhz increments yet but it still works after it shuts off, it comes right back on about 3 seconds later and everything seems ok.
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This is a knows asus "feature" in recent m/b's but from what i know it is fixed in P5W DH.
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Originally Posted by Lestat
the asus 975 has the same bug. go over like 320 fbs and the system just shuts off when you exit the bios, or reboot from windows, or reboot from dos or anything.
i havent tried 2-3mhz increments yet but it still works after it shuts off, it comes right back on about 3 seconds later and everything seems ok.
975x can come right back about 3~5 sec, but 965 cannot.
So 965 is still has some bugs and I need to solve 3D problems.
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Whats the max FSB? PLEASE!!!!!!
I want 445!!!
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AndreYang - Wondering if you could measure the height of the caps around the socket. I'm try to see if the Scythe Ninja retention rails will fit overtop. If anyone know already that be great.
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Any news on the P5B and solved bugs? New BIOSes?
I know the P5WDH has DDR2-300 and DDR2-400 RAM deviders in the BIOS but the smallest devider on the P5B is DDR2-533? Are there more deviders to come in final BIOS releases?
Is there a way to obtain the pdf-manual for the P5B? I know it's not listet on the Asus site but who knows...
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do you have a retail board to test ?
Can you link to the bios download please ?
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that's the non-deluxe board mate.
i found a Belgian webshop that has the P5B Deluxe listed for €210 (268.512 USD) www.bytesatwork.be
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The P5B deluxe almost cost the same as the P5W DH, i think this second one is a lot better option
Here in Spain (the cheapest site I've found)
P5B deluxe: 199€
P5W DH: 209€
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If I could get to 400x9 (3.6Ghz) i'd be quite happy. I'm still wondering which board is better ...P5B Deluxe or P5W DH. :confused:
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Originally Posted by Silver Bullet
If I could get to 400x9 (3.6Ghz) i'd be quite happy. I'm still wondering which board is better ...P5B Deluxe or P5W DH. :confused:
I'd say the 975 board since the chipsets been out longer and has more mature drivers etc.
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Originally Posted by derektm
I'd say the 975 board since the chipsets been out longer and has more mature drivers etc.
I don't think that's really a compelling reason... Intel usually has pretty much the best drivers and while maybe the BIOS for the 975x chips is better .. both the P5W and P5B are new boards .. so new BIOS's for all ...
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Originally Posted by Silver Bullet
If I could get to 400x9 (3.6Ghz) i'd be quite happy. I'm still wondering which board is better ...P5B Deluxe or P5W DH. :confused:
The i975 has the better northbridge and the P5B has the better southbridge. Most likely you want the i975 then :)
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Originally Posted by Silver Bullet
AndreYang - Wondering if you could measure the height of the caps around the socket. I'm try to see if the Scythe Ninja retention rails will fit overtop. If anyone know already that be great.
Yeah, I'm considering this board with a Ninja too. Would be great to get this info...
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Originally Posted by AndreYang
965 has one large bug. FSB 350+ need to add 2~3 MHz per time. If you add too many MHz, the mobo will be shut down and you need to clean coms.
So I discuss with ASUS RD what problems with 965 chip. ASUS didn't get retail 965 C1 chip, so we are not sure that ES chip has any different for retail 965 C1 chip.
We still wait Intel to get us retail 965 chip and try to solve these bugs.
Andre u still have this problem or the new bios solved it?
Thanks in advance!
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Quick question. What does ES mean? It seams to be an acronym of desire.
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Engineering Sample. A pre-production cpu sample usually.
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Holy fast memory...600 MHz
I had my hopes up for this board and it's price....but it doesn't look so good right now.
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Originally Posted by Tamerlane
Yeah, I'm considering this board with a Ninja too. Would be great to get this info...
I saw a picture, I think here or on another forum,but the Ninja should fit just fine. Not sure about ram clearance though, I'm going with TR Ultra 120, just in case.
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Originally Posted by DaWaN
The i975 has the better northbridge and the P5B has the better southbridge. Most likely you want the i975 then :)
P5W-DH doesn't leave me with any extra SATA ports though :(. I have 2 SATA DVD-/+R and 3 sata HDs .. be nice to have 1 extra spot to plug stuff in (save for the eSATA port).
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Love these reviews with all the pictures on the forums. Great stuff Andre.
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if the price of the P5B isnt at least $50 less than the P5W-DH, im going to be really really mad. :(
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I was really looking forward for the next Asus board. Now Im very dissapointed :(, this board is just as pricy as the other high end 975 boards.
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Originally Posted by ZX7891
if the price of the P5B isnt at least $50 less than the P5W-DH, im going to be really really mad. :(
it's supposed to be $150 thats about $100 cheaper unless ur talking about the Deluxe
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whats the max FSB for this board?
400FSB @ Vmch?
thanks
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P5 B and P5 B de luxe are in stock in Germany as of today
wonder if asus got retail C 1 965 chips or if people get still ES chips with a lot of bugs
as I am interested in this board and Intel has promised to fix the problem in the next P965 C-2 Stepping, and this is expected to release in
late July I think I better wait ....:rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by mine
P5 B and P5 B de luxe are in stock in Germany as of today
wonder if asus got retail C 1 965 chips or if people get still ES chips with a lot of bugs
as I am interested in this board and Intel has promised to fix the problem in the next P965 C-2 Stepping, and this is expected to release in
late July I think I better wait ....:rolleyes:
Damn, are you serious about germany having the boards allready? Closest german shop still says "no clue" about delivery date. Other german store (Snogard) says in about 8 days. Which shop do you mean?
I don't think Asus ships ES chips because that's supposed to be confidential stuff.
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