Latest revision Conroe 6700 - step 5 - quick test

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06-14-2006, 11:52 PM
mike

Latest revision Conroe 6700 - step 5 - quick test

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/1...nroepic4ph.jpg

Having a B0 stepping 6700 ES myself I have been spoiled with the power of an ES with downwards open multis.

After pluggin it in - it turns out no open downards multis :eek: :eek:

Booting her up into Windows went fine - but CPUz showed something new:
(BTW - that scrreny was under stock everything - vcore 1.4V / stock Intel aircooler ...)

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2...lstockb5xo.jpg

Here a CPUz of the previous stepping 4:

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/4...teeping5fw.jpg

The above screenshot was done with a single stage and was the max of my Rev B0 stepping 4 CPU. 3.68ghz was all she can handle....

Looks like the stepping 5 CPU might be a "release sample" of the actual retail CPU. Not sure - but just my guess. Putting the stepping 5 ( Rev. C1? ) under the test to see how it will compare to the old B0 I put it under the same Chilly1 single stage and got this out of it:

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/3134/4252vf.jpg

4.25GHZ with 1.55V vcore. pretty impressive on the step 5 - at least to me. Had access to quiet a few Conores but this one topped 'em all easily. 4.2GHZ was also 3Dmark01 stable - what I had needed Ln2 before on my B0....:stick:

Well a bit of LN2 on this stepping 5 got me only up to 4.45GHZ - but I don't think the CPU was holding me back - but rather the motherboard. 425FSB seemed to be the max on my current board ( might have been the reason for 4.25GHZ only ;) ) - only freezing the Northbridge allowed me to get a tad bit higher to ~ 445.

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/158/1178iv.jpg

Obviously all the above runs were not tweaked and optimzed - so please make no fun of the times - this weekend hopefully I have more time ( and a better board!!!) to get things flying ... Breaking 70K on a single GFX will be my goal - here's a teaser with a STOCK 7900GTX : http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8994597

Well before that it will have to do a 24hour Rosetta session - hint hint...http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=100731

The Conroe future is looking better with every new revision! While there have been a few incredible air clockers been published here in the forums - I had managed to run quiet a few of the older steppings - and from my experience - the Step 5 is a nice step up to an even better Conroe
06-15-2006, 12:16 AM
s7e9h3n

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see too much of an improvement with LN2 :wth:
06-15-2006, 12:17 AM
Vapor

Quote:

Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see too much of an improvement with LN2 :wth:

Board's holding him back...waaayyy back :p:
06-15-2006, 12:19 AM
mike

Quote:

Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see too much of an improvement with LN2 :wth:

wrong pic.. - but not much better - memory was LAX - zero tweaks etc.

changed to right pic now
06-15-2006, 12:20 AM
s7e9h3n

That's better....Mike gimme a call if you can...got a bit of info you may find handy ;)
06-15-2006, 12:37 AM
200%absolut

:woot:
06-15-2006, 01:10 AM
crotale

mikeguava, don't you think it will be possible to change the multipliers with the help of EIST, when updated software will allow that?
06-15-2006, 02:33 AM
Extera

Just plain amazing.....

:toast:
06-15-2006, 02:45 AM
eva2000

niiiiiiiiiiice.. shame no unlocked down multiplier though heh
06-15-2006, 02:55 AM
Dumo

Nice oc there Mike:toast:

Heres stepping 5 with stock 1.244 vcore (on 304 board) and air...Thanks to Andre:toast: Amazing chip:)

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3...shot1188vx.jpg
06-15-2006, 02:56 AM
vapb400

OMG. Stepping 5 ROCKS!

Will we have downward multis with later BIOS/software? I thought downward multis were a reuirement for EIST.
06-15-2006, 02:59 AM
AndreYang

I ask my friend and told me FSB 1066 Stepping 5 is B1 or B2.
06-15-2006, 03:00 AM
Dumo

Crystal cpuid use for downward multis...

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4...shot1385cm.jpg
06-15-2006, 04:43 AM
mike

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumo

Crystal cpuid use for downward multis...

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4...shot1385cm.jpg

Didn't have time to look into it deeply - but can you verify the multi actually changing with CPUZ?

I tired Crystal once - but didn't update the multi ( according to CPUZ)

I only looked into it briefly -maybe Crystal cpuid didn't work for me because of a Bios setting ( EIST setting ) - but will look into it later. IIRC there wasn't a EIST setting in the BIOS for this CPU ( but others) but that wasn't my focus at the time.

For sure the BIOS option to change multi with this particluar stepping dissapeared. Not too bug of an issue at all.

@ Crotale - looks like Dumo already got it working. :D
06-15-2006, 04:45 AM
VictorWang

:D nice chip
06-15-2006, 04:47 AM
Vric

Stepping 5 is most probably what we will have in store in 1 month. Look to be a nice chip. Sad you got "ripped off", but still, you have a damn fast conroe :p:
06-15-2006, 04:58 AM
Dumo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vric

Sad you got "ripped off"

Says who? You don't know:)

Back to topic...Weird, with bios 0908 bios vid adjustment unlocked with stepping 4 BO, but its locked with this stepping 5 cpu...
06-15-2006, 05:19 AM
mike

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumo

Says who? You don't know:)

Back to topic...Weird, with bios 0908 bios vid adjustment unlocked with stepping 4 BO, but its locked with this stepping 5 cpu...

I think "ripped" :p:

@ Dumo - maybe I'll have to try an earlier Version of Crystal CPUID - with the latest version I get this:

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1840/eist5qv.jpg

It's either Crystal CPUID or my BadAxe bios 11?? VS your 908

EIST on/off in BIOS has no impact ( remains on no matter what...)

Thanks!
06-15-2006, 05:26 AM
Torin

I wish someone would give me a "fake" Conroe ES. :)
06-15-2006, 05:27 AM
Dumo

@mike...It worked with this version of crystal

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2...shot1395qm.jpg
06-15-2006, 05:32 AM
mike

[QUOTE=Dumo]@mike...It worked with this version of crystal

Very cool :toast: :toast: This looks great!!! Thanks for looking into it!!!

EDIT- cna't find it anywhere anymore - any chance you can host it?
06-15-2006, 05:34 AM
freecableguy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumo

Says who? You don't know:)

Back to topic...Weird, with bios 0908 bios vid adjustment unlocked with stepping 4 BO, but its locked with this stepping 5 cpu...

Try BIOS 1181 as 0908 may not have the proper microcode list for this newest stepping.
06-15-2006, 05:35 AM
freecableguy

[QUOTE=mikeguava]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumo

@mike...It worked with this version of crystal

Very cool :toast: :toast: This looks great!!! Thanks for looking into it!!!

Have you enabled EIST in BIOS and attempted to change the multi using the field there? Should be selectable if you short the OC DEBUG pins to "unlock" the BIOS. Also, may want to try flashing to 1181...
06-15-2006, 05:35 AM
Dumo

[QUOTE=mikeguava]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumo

@mike...It worked with this version of crystal

Very cool :toast: :toast: This looks great!!! Thanks for looking into it!!!

The only thing that bothers me is locked vid in bios with 304. probly I have to connect the debug pins.
06-15-2006, 05:40 AM
mike

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumo

The only thing that bothers me is locked vid in bios with 304. probly I have to connect the debug pins.

Yes - for sure you have to connect the debug pins - had mine come loose several times - and lost the VID options

Couldn't find your version anymore - any chance you can host it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by crotale

mikeguava, don't you think it will be possible to change the multipliers with the help of EIST, when updated software will allow that?

Looks like Dumo found the solution for us!

Quote:

Originally Posted by freecableguy

Have you enabled EIST in BIOS and attempted to change the multi using the field there? Should be selectable if you short the OC DEBUG pins to "unlock" the BIOS. Also, may want to try flashing to 1181...

actually running 1181 - and OC debug pins are shorted. Thanks to your nifty guide! I had swithced back between step 4 B0 and this new step 5 - to verify that the Bios didn't have to do anything with it. Step 4 - change Multi was possible.

I tried enabling and dis-sabling EIST in BIOS with no effect ( actually EISToff will still keep it on in WIndows )
06-15-2006, 05:43 AM
Dumo

Heres mike...http://crystalmark.info/software/Cry...D/index-e.html
06-15-2006, 05:57 AM
mike

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumo

Heres mike...http://crystalmark.info/software/Cry...D/index-e.html

I am blind...can only find 4.7.5 but not 4.8.1
06-15-2006, 05:59 AM
crotale

Click the image under download :)

http://crystalmark.info/download/dow...e=CrystalCPUID
06-15-2006, 06:06 AM
mike

Quote:

Originally Posted by crotale

Click the image under download :)

http://crystalmark.info/download/dow...e=CrystalCPUID

It's 4.8.3 - the one I used. The previous release - 4.8.1 is the one Dumo uses and which works...or did I miss it again???

But I found Alpha 5.0XXX and it also doesn't work
06-15-2006, 06:32 AM
realsmasher

this 1m times under stock voltage and air cooler are crazy :slobber:

i hope i'll get beyond 3ghz with stock cpu+voltage E6600 :banana:
06-15-2006, 06:33 AM
mike

Quote:

Originally Posted by realsmasher

this 1m times under stock voltage and air cooler are crazy :slobber:

i hope i'll get beyond 3ghz with stock cpu+voltage E6600 :banana:

shouldn't be a problem!
06-15-2006, 06:34 AM
Gautam

Awesome! Do you ever sleep? :p:

Just need to get the FSB straightened out and we should be seeing low/mid 5's in no time.

PS- lemme be the first to say that some of those times really suck. Now what did you say about not making fun of em?
06-15-2006, 06:42 AM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gautam

Awesome! Do you ever sleep? :p:

Just need to get the FSB straightened out and we should be seeing low/mid 5's in no time.

PS- lemme be the first to say that some of those times really suck. Now what did you say about not making fun of em?

LOL...I beat you to it...I told him they sucked yesterday, soon after he posted. So we all agree - that's a crappy time Mike :toast:

BTW, try the multiplier management option in Crystalcpuid and EIST should be enabled....
06-15-2006, 07:05 AM
uOpt

You probably want to edit the thread title.

This looks like a bad trader alert.
06-15-2006, 08:12 AM
Nazu

Quote:

Originally Posted by uOpt

You probably want to edit the thread title.

This looks like a bad trader alert.

I agree with uOpt that it looks like the seller of that cpu has shipped you wrong cpu. I got a guestion for you guy's, do you think that I would be able to run E6400 Allendale 8x400 to get 3.2GHz or is it impossible? Mobo would be Asus P5W DH Deluxe.
06-15-2006, 08:20 AM
Gautam

The title is a joke for those of you that haven't caught on yet. :p:
06-15-2006, 08:25 AM
uOpt

Quote:

Originally Posted by FLG_Poncho

Not really... that IS an ES conroe. Now... had the seller said specifically that it has unlocked multi's then you might have a bad seller. If he did that... ask him to give you a refund, if he does... no harm done. What many people don't understand is that there are many ES CPUs with LOCKED multi's, they are usually close to produciton versions (ie. later steppings) that go out to customers for testing. There are many different "stages" of ES cpus..

Yes, yes, but if you casually browse the forum you think AY is selling bad chips. Not a good idea, people are too jumpy about these things.
06-15-2006, 08:52 AM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by FLG_Poncho

Yea, I misunderstood your post when I put it in the context of a serious thread. Now that I realize it was a joke, I see what you meant. :D

It'll be fine....since the casual browsers of this forum don't have access to the F/S sections here anyways. Anybody who's somewhat of a regular here knows the type of reputation that Andre has as a seller and is probably just as aware of Mikeguava's razor-sharp-wit :p: j/k
06-15-2006, 10:59 AM
zert

wow if this is the revision Intel's gonna release. it's even looking sweeter then before :woot:
06-15-2006, 11:05 AM
Iconyu

Quote:

Originally Posted by uOpt

Yes, yes, but if you casually browse the forum you think AY is selling bad chips. Not a good idea, people are too jumpy about these things.

I didn't even know this place had for sale forums, I'm actually rather gutted I have to spam another 60 posts to even see the place. Ah well, I suppose it helps traders have a idea of a buyer/sellers charecter by the time they can see the the forum.
06-15-2006, 11:53 AM
R101

Quote:

Originally Posted by zert

wow if this is the revision Intel's gonna release. it's even looking sweeter then before :woot:

Sure looks like it! :toast:
06-15-2006, 12:18 PM
uclajd

Don't worry Iconyu,

You'll be able to see greedy industry professionals profiteering by way of selling free, often confidential, NDA'd engineering samples at inflated, 100% profit prices in no time! :lol:

Until you hit 100 posts, save your money! :rolleyes:

The new revisions look very nice, BTW. :slobber:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconyu

I didn't even know this place had for sale forums, I'm actually rather gutted I have to spam another 60 posts to even see the place. Ah well, I suppose it helps traders have a idea of a buyer/sellers charecter by the time they can see the the forum.
06-15-2006, 12:21 PM
Gautam

Quote:

Originally Posted by uclajd

Don't worry Iconyu,

You'll be able to see greedy industry professionals profiteering by way of selling free, often confidential, NDA'd engineering samples at inflated, 100% profit prices in no time! :lol:

:clap:
06-15-2006, 12:32 PM
mike

One more month and will be finally able to getthese puppies in stores.

Here's an 7950GX2 on air with The Step 5 @ 3.4GHZ on air:

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/802/dsc037614wl.jpg

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1630/air79502vu.jpg
06-15-2006, 12:34 PM
Iconyu

I'm in the UK, so as long as it's insured correctly and marked as use it might still work out as cheaper than retail. Over here, a core 2 duo XE will cost under $1300 retail, how much it cost on forum?

Edit: Nice going Mike, still stock volts too if I read cpuz correctly.
06-15-2006, 12:37 PM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeguava

One more month and will be finally able to getthese puppies in stores.

Here's an 7950GX2 on air with The Step 5 @ 3.4GHZ on air:

Nice balancing act with the fan :toast:
06-15-2006, 12:40 PM
mike

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconyu

I'm in the UK, so as long as it's insured correctly and marked as use it might still work out as cheaper than retail. Over here, a core 2 duo XE will cost under $1300 retail, how much it cost on forum?

Edit: Nice going Mike, still stock volts too if I read cpuz correctly.

actually there aren't any E6800 for sale in this forum...

Vcore was at 1.35V

Quote:

Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

Nice balancing act with the fan :toast:

Superglue!!!! :stick: :stick: jk
06-15-2006, 12:45 PM
TuKo

I hope i'll get to 100 posts soon lol
06-15-2006, 12:52 PM
kiwi

Must be HOT air in Miami, good for us, bad for bad axe, and other hardware lol :toast:
06-15-2006, 02:03 PM
AndreYang

great video card:eek:
06-15-2006, 02:37 PM
wtkprol

Quote:

Originally Posted by uclajd

Don't worry Iconyu,

You'll be able to see greedy industry professionals profiteering by way of selling free, often confidential, NDA'd engineering samples at inflated, 100% profit prices in no time! :lol:

Until you hit 100 posts, save your money! :rolleyes:

Ha, so true. But I cant blame them, if I got free stuff I would be selling it like crazy. By the way, Mike you plan on selling that chip anytime soon?

O and nice 7950 clocks.
06-15-2006, 02:53 PM
Lestat

Quote:

Originally Posted by uclajd
Don't worry Iconyu,

You'll be able to see greedy industry professionals profiteering by way of selling free, often confidential, NDA'd engineering samples at inflated, 100% profit prices in no time!

Until you hit 100 posts, save your money!

what are you talking about ? we already have that here and in a big way.
every single merom, yonah, conroe, many of the M2 models, and tons and tons of other chips thruought the past have been passed to other people at 100% profit.
the only problem here is that they are breaking NDA and Reviewer contractual agreements by doing so.
now they can lie and say all they want but if you have a chip that isnt even retail yet,, its being sold illegally.
there is nothing legal about it.
its jsut that the manufacturers have never and probably will never do anything about it until such a time that something is shown or sold that was never meant to be out in the public.

anyways..

i hate intel but i LOVE these conroe's!
06-15-2006, 05:42 PM
tdenton1138

Quote:

Originally Posted by TuKo

I hope i'll get to 100 posts soon lol

Me too ;)

EDIT: Ok, ok, on topic. That 6700 looks quite nice and I am - along with all the other mortals here - anxiously awaiting release of these remarkable chips. I wonder if Vista is 4+ core ready (Kentsfield) or if we'll have to wait for "Vista XL"...
06-15-2006, 06:11 PM
mike

Conroe back on phase - 3Dmark05 with 7950GX2 XXX

M/B: Intel D975XBX REV 3.02
CPU: Intel E6700 ES step5
Cooling: Single Stage phase changing
Memory: NC
HDD: 80GB Seagate
VGA: XFX 7950GX2 XXX
PSU: PC&C 1k
OS: WIN XP
Vcore: 1.5325 BIOS ( prolly 1.48 Actual )
Vdimm: 2.2V BIOS
Vnb: 1.725
Vfsb: 1.325

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9437/7950gx28fh.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdenton1138

Me too ;)

EDIT: Ok, ok, on topic. That 6700 looks quite nice and I am - along with all the other mortals here - anxiously awaiting release of these remarkable chips. I wonder if Vista is 4+ core ready (Kentsfield) or if we'll have to wait for "Vista XL"...

No clue yet - BUT I would imagine so!
06-15-2006, 06:59 PM
noobman

wow. amazing. now if only i could get my hands on one of those.....now who do i have to kill?
06-15-2006, 09:11 PM
mike

3Dmark06 - 6700 on Single Stage - 4.1GHZ - XFX 7950 XXX :

M/B: Intel D975XBX REV 3.02
CPU: Intel E6700 ES step5
Cooling: Single Stage phase changing
Memory: NC
HDD: 80GB Seagate
VGA: XFX 7950GX2 XXX
PSU: PC&C 1k
OS: WIN XP
Vcore: 1.5325 BIOS ( prolly 1.48 Actual )
Vdimm: 2.2V BIOS
Vnb: 1.725
Vfsb: 1.325
PowerSlope enabled

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2...611200b8af.jpg
06-15-2006, 09:17 PM
s7e9h3n

Mike, can you please fill this form out so we know the specifics of your bench? ;)

M/B:
CPU:
Cooling:
Memory:
HDD:
VGA:
PSU:
OS:
Vcore:
Vdimm:
Vnb:
Vfsb:
06-15-2006, 09:17 PM
njkid32

Quote:

Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

Mike, can you please fill this form out so we know the specifics of your bench? ;)

M/B:
CPU:
Cooling:
Memory:
HDD:
VGA:
PSU:
OS:
Vcore:
Vdimm:
Vnb:
Vfsb:

You forgot one thing:rofl:

$$:
06-15-2006, 09:18 PM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by njkid32

You forgot one thing:rofl:

$$:

$$: Priceless :D
06-16-2006, 12:08 AM
mike

M/B: -$199
CPU: +-$0
Cooling: -$250
Memory: +_$0
HDD: -$40
VGA: don't know yet
PSU: -$350
OS: LOL
Vcore: 1.53 (BIOS)
Vdimm: 2.2V ( BIOS)
Vnb: 1.725V
Vfsb:MAX
06-16-2006, 01:04 AM
Nosfer@tu

Thx for sharing settings Mikeguava
06-16-2006, 02:23 AM
MnM

Very good. One more month to go but the motherboards are not that available yet :(
06-16-2006, 04:35 AM
Torin

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeguava

OS: LOL

Hahahaha.:p:
06-16-2006, 06:10 AM
Dumo

Vcore@1.45V still with air:) Having so much fun...

I will run it with "Black box" cascade by weekend:) It will be a blast...

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/578...shot1529dc.jpg

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/8...shot1515bx.jpg

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/675...shot1547cu.jpg
06-16-2006, 06:13 AM
Freez

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdenton1138

Me too ;)

EDIT: Ok, ok, on topic. That 6700 looks quite nice and I am - along with all the other mortals here - anxiously awaiting release of these remarkable chips. I wonder if Vista is 4+ core ready (Kentsfield) or if we'll have to wait for "Vista XL"...

Me three
06-16-2006, 06:51 AM
Eastcoasthandle

what MB is that again? I thought I read it but can't find it...sorry for the nusiance post..
06-16-2006, 07:06 AM
mike

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle

what MB is that again? I thought I read it but can't find it...sorry for the nusiance post..

No nusiance at all!

The motherboard is the Intel D975XBX BadAxe - in my case it's the Rev 3.02 modded to accept Conroe from FCG's sticky.

Great board BTW - was very apprehensive at first - but I have to say I am impressed with it! Very impressed.
06-16-2006, 07:09 AM
mike

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumo

Vcore@1.45V still with air:) Having so much fun...

I will run it with "Black box" cascade by weekend:) It will be a blast...

WOW! Nice 3Dmark06!!! Specailly with such "low" clocks! 3.6 on air!!!!:toast: :toast: Can't make it there...not for 3Dmarks
06-16-2006, 11:20 AM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle

what MB is that again? I thought I read it but can't find it...sorry for the nusiance post..

Mike, please fill out the blanks...seriously :slap: It would make it easier on all of us to dream of a setup like yours :p:
06-16-2006, 11:56 AM
mike

M/B: Intel D975XBX REV 3.02
CPU: Intel E6700 ES step5
Cooling: Single Stage phase changing
Memory: NC
HDD: 80GB Seagate
VGA: XFX 7950GX2 XXX
PSU: PC&C 1k
OS: WIN XP
Vcore: 1.5325 BIOS ( prolly 1.48 Actual )
Vdimm: 2.2V BIOS
Vnb: 1.725
Vfsb: 1.325
06-16-2006, 12:00 PM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeguava

M/B: Intel D975XBX REV 3.02
CPU: Intel E6700 ES step5
Cooling: Single Stage phase changing
Memory: NC
HDD: 80GB Seagate
VGA: XFX 7950GX2 XXX
PSU: PC&C 1k
OS: WIN XP
Vcore: 1.5325 BIOS ( prolly 1.48 Actual )
Vdimm: 2.2V BIOS
Vnb: 1.725
Vfsb: 1.325

DAMMIT...the only one I really reason I asked you to fill out that form was to find out the mems you were using :p: ....I'm gonna call you right now....
06-16-2006, 04:29 PM
RaMmElEe

I wanna know what mems he was using too.:eek: