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I decided I needed a new mounting system. Allow me introduce "MEGA-MOUNT" heh.. Features 50mm lockdown nut for the holding plate so mounting should be spot on every time :)
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/4325/mega18uo.jpg
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/862/mega22uh.jpg
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/142/mega37mc.jpg
Thanks :)
C-BuZz
Really nice, how are you holding the evap in place?
Looking very very nice :) Same question as ssilencer :)
Same question as previous two. Looks great though.
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Originally Posted by Ssilencer
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Originally Posted by jinu117
Thx for the feedback.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carlz0r
Yes, forgot to add that. I wanted it so it can mount pretty much any evap regardless of the size nicely, this is why I made it adjustable depending on the size of the evap. If the evap does not protrude out far enough from the housing I am going to add some washers like this to the top of the evap. Obviously the more I add the more it will protrude from the bottom of the housing.
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/2627/mega37mc5sa.jpg
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/2964/flatwasher3eh.jpg
With a 59/58mm diameter so it slides into the housing & sits on the 45mm inner lip which is near the top of the housing. I can add as many as I like until the evap has sufficent clearance from the housing.
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5782/mega41mm.jpg
C-BuZz
Awww... good stuff... vapochill revisited... I can't just seem to get away from ideas of vapochill mount... :PQuote:
Originally Posted by C-BuZz
Now, what evap is it? It looks... tiny.
heh, origional Vapo evap it is. Only one I had lying around.Quote:
Originally Posted by jinu117
Having some round evaps cut shortly which will fit in there nice.
C-BuZz
Looks mental dude, clean and simple but sexy too. Nice one
Vapo LS head springs to mind but meh. Nice dude nice
Looks very nice and simple to use :)
Great job
nice mounting, but what are the demension of your evap.
it looks ferry small evap.
ICE COOL
thanks all for the feedback.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COOL
I only put that in as a demonstration, as I dont have my others cut yet. That evap is around 20mm diameter.
It will house a 40mm diameter evap.
C-BuZz
What material is the washer being made?
Also, using that U shape, there will be air inside the enclosure.
Do you have any for sale, let me know.Quote:
Originally Posted by C-BuZz
Washers have been scraped. I'm now using reducers like thisQuote:
Originally Posted by Ssilencer
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/8403/4089481cf.gif
Which slot in perfectly together so no air pockets.
The housing can hold up to 5 reducers to reduce the diameter to whatever size your evap is :)
sure, if you want one :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by danyblasco2
C-BuZz
Sorry, but I don't understand, can you make a draw?Quote:
Originally Posted by C-BuZz
I've now gone back to the origional idea of hardened custom made "C Washers", as I think this works best for all sized evaps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ssilencer
This way the entire housing can be installed without having to remove the suction line.
Slide the C-Washer over the suction. Use as many as you want until the evap is just clear of the base of the housing.
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/2813/66gw2.jpg
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/2741/77um.jpg
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/6136/81lh.jpg
Now to fill the gap with a thin piece of neoprene:
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/5601/59gw.jpg
And if you want to get hardcore I can add a piece of sticky neoprene inbetween the c-washers.
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/5241/44pv.jpg
Then slide the evap into the housing. The Washers are a tight fit so they dont fall out.
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/9959/dscn04052xf.jpg
Looking inside:
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/5042/20ec2.jpg
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/4939/dscn04090tz.jpg
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6355/90il1.jpg
Install the final neoprene rings:
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/9781/17ly2.jpg
Our finished unit:
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/6270/33us3.jpg
Thanks :)
C-BuZ
The plastic washer would cause some condensation if it is in contact with the evap and the enclosure, because it will tranfer cold to the outside.
It is almost identical to our current enclosure mounting system, but you have to use a different mat for the washer... :)
It is?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ssilencer
Can I see some pics of yours please?
What do you mean a different mat for the washer? Different material? I dont think so.. I think it could easily handle a downforce of around 50-60kg's no problem (if not more).
I highly doubt it will transfer any condensation to the outer housing shell unless the evap is sitting on > -100c, & if there is, i'll just add a neoprene ring around the outer housing :) There's almost an inch of solid plastic between the evap & outer shell (depending on the size of evap used).
I will be testing it shortly with evap on -50c, i'll leave it idling for a few hours & see if there's any condensation ;)
C-BuZz
Added LGA/478/S939/754/AM2 support. Also added centering washers to the springs so they dont move around while tightening.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5169/113nx.jpg
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2981/101uk.jpg
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1994/129tg1.jpg
C-BuZz
very nice cbuzz, good to see ppl making their own stuff, specailly here in AUS:toast:
Are you gonna get some round copper stock and make some round maze evaps on that will of yours.;)
Thx mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by kayl
Having some blocks cut shortly :)
C-BuZz
I'm not talking about how much pressure it withstand, I'm talking about insulation propertiesQuote:
Originally Posted by C-BuZz
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/561/soportew7gg.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by C-BuZz
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1...gesmall5ps.jpg
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/562...04small8ck.jpg
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5...3medium8mt.jpg
Same mounting method (vapochill method) different matherial.
Plastic don't have any kind of insulation properties.Quote:
highly doubt it will transfer any condensation to the outer housing shell unless the evap is sitting on > -100c, & if there is, i'll just add a neoprene ring around the outer housing :) There's almost an inch of solid plastic between the evap & outer shell (depending on the size of evap used).
Yes, sure, adding a piece of armaflex in the outer shell will help, but then, thats a fix for something that intends not to be fixed.
I'm not :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:ing your work, I'm just making a constructive critic, so you can make a better product.
The only bit actually touching the outer shell is the tip of the washer, as they are actually angled inward with neoprene either side. Even if the cold reaches that far its not going to be anywhere near enough to create condensation on the outer housing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ssilencer
That makes no sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ssilencer
I know that & welcome any input so thx ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ssilencer
What is the white material your using around the actual evap? Looks like hardened plastic? Or is it styrofoam?
Nice housings BTW :toast:
C-BuZz
What I mean is that we (you , me and anyone doing any kind of enclosure) try get the perfect mounting system, I hate to insulate the outer part of the enclosure.
That material is called Polifan, is expanded extruded polystyrene, it's dense (3cm of polyfan insulates like 12cm of wood), and strong ( can tolerate a weight of up to 40ton/m2)
Mega mount revised. C-Washers now support both 1/4" & 3/8" suction lines. Added new mounting bracket & rear hold down plate. Got rid of the springs as they where to expensive :)
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/2492/mega672hg.jpg
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9744/mega20ge.jpg
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9671/mega12ni.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5050/mega32qg.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/8689/mega78ww.jpg
Thanks
C-BuZz
Beautiful mounting kit you have there (and some nicely taken pics of them too).
I noticed that you've got S462 mounting holes there, but they're really close to the wall of the enclosure - even though very few people still use S462 (particularly under custom phase) it's just something to note. Without some sort of spacer there it looks like it'd be impossible to get the wing nuts all the way down.
Congrats though, they're looking really good.
---dens
Thx dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeNs
Socket A mounts. The wingnuts dont fit, but I have nuts that do :) Pretty much a redundant socket now anyway so its probably not even worth adding.
C-BuZz
Decided to install it today on my little Vapo mockup system. Basically a Vapo with a larger compressor, using R290. Evap idle's around -43c.
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2639/m125vs.jpg
The stock miniscule suction line/evap of the Vapochill
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/4517/m114ae.jpg
The evap
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/2072/m107kg.jpg
C-Washer & neoprene ring to slide over the suction line. I use 1 x C-Washer this time with thicker neoprene ring. Which will give the evap a cushioning effect when being tightened down onto the processor.
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/2796/m74de.jpg
First I slide some real insulation over the suction line
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9754/m94zk.jpg
Housing
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4123/m23wk.jpg
Slide the washer over the suction line so it clips into place, & a piece of neoprene to fill the gap.
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/740/m53as.jpg
Neoprene ring under the washer
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/637/m41yn.jpg
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2290/m34bs.jpg
Slide it into the hosing
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8506/m223ar.jpg
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7144/m219vc.jpg
Twist the doughnut into place
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9563/m194ux.jpg
There is a bout 5mm clearance from the housing. But when I tighten this onto the processor it should be pretty much flush with the doughnut, when I apply some pressure to it. This should give a very even mount.
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4118/m180uv.jpg
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/3900/m176ao.jpg
Unit in action
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4222/m156ox.jpg
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3199/m160ut.jpg
I left it idling for 6hrs today with evap hovering around low 40's. There was no condensation on the outer housing or on the hold down plate whatsoever.
Hoping for some larger evaps for testing shortly.
Thanks
C-BuZz
Haha that looks awesome on it, although seems a tad overkill :lol: Any plans to make a GPU kit for units like that? Seems that the little units from your dismembered vapos would serve better as GPU coolers, but even then they didn't too bad under that opty you had one under a while back.
---dens
Just a little overkill :) It's the only evap i've got atm, picking up some larger blocks next week, so have to make do for now.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeNs
Gpu kits definately. Just have to find the time :)
Beleive it or not these little vapo evaps actually perform surprisingly well for there size.
C-BuZz
Hahah and dispite their internal design. Goes to show that you don't need ultra fancy evaps for reasonable temps.
Really can't wait to see what GPU design you come up with. If it's anything like this one, it'll be awesome!
---dens
C-BuZz - YGPM.
Anyone guess what this is?
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/695/mega6good9fq.jpg
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2...ga7good3bu.jpg
C-BuZz
Dead pictures? :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by C-BuZz
lol, was working for me. Then hit refresh & they where gone :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Carlz0r
Links fixed.
C-BuZz
heating element?
enclosure is nice, real nice.
Heating element it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by sluflyer06
I used 1.5m of 6.0ohm per mtr resistance wire, wrapped around the evap housing, goes all the way to the base where it meets the motherboard inslation. Plugged into 5v psu rail. Gets warm to touch, still have a lot of testing to do with it. Should pretty much stop any condensation. Might make it adjustable with a pot & mount it onto the mounting plate. So it can be adjustable.
C-BuZz
Small production line happening heh.. Few of them ready for shipping.
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5029/mega15qi.jpg
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/9140/mega23dk.jpg
2 of them being mounted to Vapo Pe/SE, other going onto a VapoLS.
C-BuZz
Sorry if this has been asked, but does this support AM2 ?
Yes, the bolts you see installed are for AM2 socket ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by yngndrw
C-BuZz
Ah okay. :)
Hmm, I'm just wondering how well this insulation works when using a small evap such as the lil vapo one you made an example of before, mounted onto a CPU with IHS installed. Does the corners of the IHS not push the foam doughnut up and break the seal ? Just a thought.
not to sure what you mean there. If the ihs is touching the foam then you have a pretty good seal ya?Quote:
Originally Posted by yngndrw
You can always adjust the height of the evap if it is not extending out far enough, or if it is to far in, by adding or removing washers or neoprene rings.
C-BuZz
What I mean is if the IHS is lifting the doughnut up, then it will break the seal between the doughnut and the mobo. Does your design require an extra piece of foam around the socket or not ?
Sorry I can't explain it too well. Can you post a picture of it mounted on a CPU with a small diameter evap please ?
The ihs cant lift the doughnut up no matter how hard you tighten the housing down, the doughnut is held in place by the C-Washer, just like the evap.Quote:
Originally Posted by yngndrw
All subzero temps require additional motherboard insulation, this is no exception.
I'll post a pic in the morning for ya.
C-BuZz
Okay then fair enough, thank you for your explanation. :)