Crossfire Bridge For 80nm ATI Cards CONFIRMED !!!

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06-10-2006, 03:08 PM
perkam

Crossfire Bridge For 80nm ATI Cards CONFIRMED !!!

AS OF JUNE 10TH, 2006 !!

Plus a peek at info on RV560 and RV570 :) No more mastercards !!! :D

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/7462/img00637uq.jpg

http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=3724

Perkam
06-10-2006, 03:10 PM
[XC] Lead Head

Awsome!:woot: :toast:
06-10-2006, 03:14 PM
Dimitriman

2 bridges to work? humm guess that will work for avoiding patent infringements...
06-10-2006, 03:36 PM
[XC] Lead Head

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimitriman

2 bridges to work? humm guess that will work for avoiding patent infringements...

Thats a reflection form a miror/case:slap:

EDIT: It is two bridges...wtf?
06-10-2006, 03:39 PM
nn_step

Subtext nVidia did it right first time, Although two connectors would allow for alot more expandablity
06-10-2006, 03:39 PM
eBoy0

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lead Head

Thats a reflection form a miror/case:slap:

:ROTF:
06-10-2006, 03:40 PM
MaxxxRacer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lead Head

Thats a reflection form a miror/case:slap:

EDIT: It is two bridges...wtf?

DOH! I thought the same thing too.
06-10-2006, 03:41 PM
Your_Boss

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lead Head

Thats a reflection form a miror/case:slap:

lol NO! Look closer. The "reflections" as you so called are going the same way. They should be mirrored. ;)

So two bridges..who cares, as long as no MC. Woot!
06-10-2006, 03:41 PM
IvanAndreevich

I wonder why they didn't do it in the first place.
06-10-2006, 03:44 PM
nn_step

Quote:

Originally Posted by IvanAndreevich

I wonder why they didn't do it in the first place.

Pride
06-10-2006, 04:02 PM
Marioace

those are 2 bridges, and there's no more MC since R600

Mid Range no need MC.
06-10-2006, 04:06 PM
einCe

ahhh sweet sweet music. now all i need is a release date from amd and i can die in peace
06-10-2006, 04:09 PM
Ominous Gamer

Quote:

Originally Posted by IvanAndreevich

I wonder why they didn't do it in the first place.

After you spend months slamming SLI for being a useless pointless deadend...
ATI figured they would have to wait at least one generation before completely reneging on everything, again.:rolleyes:
06-10-2006, 04:10 PM
NickS

Woohoo, nice work ATi! Can't wait for results on this new technology. :D

Nick
06-10-2006, 04:11 PM
Your_Boss

So if this bridge is only on 80nm chips then this photo is of the new 80nm ATI cards?

They would have to be high end cards I would assume since you can already use midrange cards with no master card.
06-10-2006, 04:15 PM
Ominous Gamer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Your_Boss

So if this bridge is only on 80nm chips then this photo is of the new 80nm ATI cards?

They would have to be high end cards I would assume since you can already use midrange cards with no master card.

Be nice if people followed the linkage

"ATi has demonstrated their upcoming 80nm GPU offerings behind the doors of Computex to their close partners which is none other than the RV560 and RV570 slated to launch in Q3 this year. According to sources, RV570 & RV560 are based on R580 architecture and is meant to replace the current X1600 series graphics cards. ATi has also revealed the new Crossfire bridges which is very similar to NVIDIA SLI bridge concept that link both cards together so there is no need for a master card and the dongles anymore. Instead of just one bridge like the NVIDIA's, ATi solutions require 2 bridges to work so perhaps the bandwidth is doubled as such. ATi is on track to release R600 by end of the year and has been taped out as we have learned. R600 is based on 65nm process technology and Unified Shader Architecture, quite similar to the Xbox360 GPU."
06-10-2006, 04:28 PM
NickS

:woot: I'm so happy. ATi is REALLY getting serious lately. It's been bing bang BOOM for them. Go go go!! At this rate, the new generation of card's will be out by the end of this year, for both ATi & nVidia... and oohh boy are they gonna be off the hook.

Nick
06-10-2006, 05:21 PM
Elfear

Awesome news. With that hurdle leapt there are very few things that make Crossfire unattractive.
06-10-2006, 05:59 PM
Starscream

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elfear

Awesome news. With that hurdle leapt there are very few things that make Crossfire unattractive.

the biggest one stil remains (it also counts for SLI).
the price :)
06-10-2006, 06:11 PM
cadaveca

I always wondered about this area of the cards:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1149991262

To me, it looks like it could use the VIVO part of the RageTheater chip for cross-communication...but the missing BGA-mount component there I always thought might possibly link up the ram from either card, thanks to the ring-bus tech.

Quote:

Originally Posted by penstarsys.com

The 512 bit Ringbus does not only interact with main memory, but also is used to shuffle the data around the chip to where it is needed. It is a general purpose, bi-directional pathway that offers a lot of internal bandwidth for the different functional units. It is also programmable so that it can change its behavior to match what the application is requesting.

R300+ has had inter-gpu communications possible, and with nVidia's solution only needing a single link, what's that second link really needed for?

:shrug:
06-10-2006, 06:16 PM
thunderstruck!

Now we're gonna see higher clocked CF rigs.:)
06-10-2006, 06:52 PM
ahmad

Crossfire w/Mastercard had awesome efficiency. I would love to see similar performance out of a bridge setup.
06-10-2006, 07:42 PM
n00b 0f l337

Could it be for extra efficiency, and a spot to link up 3-4 cards in total?
06-10-2006, 07:50 PM
nn_step

Quote:

Originally Posted by n00b 0f l337

Could it be for extra efficiency, and a spot to link up 3-4 cards in total?

Actually if they adopt flexible links we could see daisy chained Crossfire for unlimited number of cards
06-10-2006, 08:35 PM
NickS

Quote:

Originally Posted by nn_step

Actually if they adopt flexible links we could see daisy chained Crossfire for unlimited number of cards

That.. would be amazing. :slobber:

Nick
06-10-2006, 08:55 PM
Vapor

Well, 32...that's all ATi's current driver architecture will support :p:
06-10-2006, 08:57 PM
Praxis1452

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickS

That.. would be amazing. :slobber:

Nick

lol crossfire+ ati's physics... how many slots are you gonna need :stick: I mean daisy chaining crossfire... lol there need to be some single slot cooling solutions
06-10-2006, 08:58 PM
Elfear

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starscream

the biggest one stil remains (it also counts for SLI).
the price :)

Lol. True, I forgot about that.
06-10-2006, 09:43 PM
payne280

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vapor

Well, 32...that's all ATi's current driver architecture will support :p:

to bad there is no board with that many PCI-E slots, that thing would be huge
06-10-2006, 10:01 PM
OmegaMerc

Pricewise I think they will have an avg price, somewhere above the non-mc and below the mc cards.
06-11-2006, 01:05 AM
Dimitriman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxis1452

lol crossfire+ ati's physics... how many slots are you gonna need :stick: I mean daisy chaining crossfire... lol there need to be some single slot cooling solutions

That my friend, is the truth.

If R600 is as hot as some people claim it to be, I wonder how much heat 3 of them would release in one's die hard Graphics+Physics rig...:p:
06-11-2006, 02:56 AM
Syn.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimitriman

That my friend, is the truth.

If R600 is as hot as some people claim it to be, I wonder how much heat 3 of them would release in one's die hard Graphics+Physics rig...:p:

R600 is suppose to have just been tapped out how do you know hot it is already?
06-11-2006, 03:39 AM
einCe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syn.

R600 is suppose to have just been tapped out how do you know hot it is already?

nothing my 1200 a month with no financial oblications cant solve
06-11-2006, 06:42 AM
Piotke

Good news !
06-11-2006, 12:36 PM
Kunaak

that sure would sway me alot more to buying crossfire without having to look around/hope to find a mastercard, thats not $100 more, and slower, then my slave card.

however, if ATI really wants to peak my interest in thier cards, they need to KILL the whole overclocking concept they have at the moment, with the whole "stop the ATI hotkey poller, disable ati2evvxxx.cxe, download ATITool, disable 3D, up the volts for 2D... set the clocks... hope it all works".

make it simple, and take the stupid cielings out from the OC limits.

thats the one thing that drives me nuts the most.
these cards, just aren't meant for the day to day gamer/overclocker, without a whole lot of annoying/pointless hurdles, that just make what should be nice and simple, exceptionally annoying cause it's too damn complicated.
06-11-2006, 12:40 PM
Ominous Gamer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kunaak

these cards, just aren't meant for the day to day gamer/overclocker,

These people are not the same. You should not get them confused. There is nothing confusing about ATI cards to the day to day gamer.;)

Frankly, I don't blame ATI, with as many bastards who openly admit to being stupid, frying their card then RMA it without even thinking about it; yeah I don't blame ATI at all.
06-11-2006, 10:45 PM
Kunaak

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ominous Gamer

These people are not the same. You should not get them confused. There is nothing confusing about ATI cards to the day to day gamer.;)

Frankly, I don't blame ATI, with as many bastards who openly admit to being stupid, frying their card then RMA it without even thinking about it; yeah I don't blame ATI at all.

Look Closer.

"Gamer/Overclocker"

some of us, are actually both.
06-11-2006, 11:01 PM
biohead

make that: most of us :)
06-11-2006, 11:18 PM
Starscream

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kunaak

Look Closer.

"Gamer/Overclocker"

some of us, are actually both.

yeah i love to play my daily game of minesweeper :).

i think soon after Nvidia/ATI will go and convince us wel need motherboards with 4 PCI-e Slots.
this for SLI/Crossfire for grafix and SLI/Crossfire for physix.
06-12-2006, 01:25 AM
Syn.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starscream

yeah i love to play my daily game of minesweeper :).

i think soon after Nvidia/ATI will go and convince us wel need motherboards with 4 PCI-e Slots.
this for SLI/Crossfire for grafix and SLI/Crossfire for physix.

when it comes to physics i perfer the AMD's way, 4x4 mobo with a dediceated physics procesor in the second slot, could be an Ageia PPU just not glued to a board. That leaves room for my sound and tv card on the PCI slots.
06-12-2006, 01:55 AM
Hicks

It's a step in the right direction, but they need to increase the performance from Xfire for R600 and future cards.
06-12-2006, 01:58 AM
ReD.SkY

*Dreams of true double FPS with 2 cards*
06-12-2006, 02:34 PM
Cobalt

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Quote:

Originally Posted by IvanAndreevich

I wonder why they didn't do it in the first place.

They did;)
06-12-2006, 02:55 PM
NickS

Yeah, I wish we knew exactly waht that friggin thing did... meh

Nick
06-12-2006, 03:01 PM
Mr. Popo

ATI : Just updated my tech! :)
NVIDIA : No way! :eek:
ATI : Yap ---> Link.
NVIDIA : :owned:
06-13-2006, 04:47 AM
Cobalt

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickS

Yeah, I wish we knew exactly waht that friggin thing did... meh

Nick

Considering that it is roughly the same width as the connectors in the new pics and it is essentially a pinout for a ribbon cable as seen in the original SLI. It was probably part of some plan to use an internal connector right from the start but they didn't fully implement it for some reason.

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