Blaster Cascade

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06-04-2006, 03:13 PM
Blaster

Blaster Cascade

Time to show off my new cascade here in XS

Cascade parts have been in shelf for some time, too much work and some personnal problems have delayed it :(

It will be a 2 phase system r402a/r1150

Parts to be put together:

2 Rotaries 9000BTUs
Henry Oil Sep S-5181
TEV on 1st stage from Danfoss
Air cooled condensor with 10w fan
4 pressure gauges
1 meter copper braided flexible hose 1/2''
one of my Rev3 evaps
pressure relief valve
Danfoss KP15 double pressurestat
Custom HX

All this will be inside a stell cage and wrapped in aluminium sheet :p

Case dimensions: 50x38cms and 55cms height :)

1st pics:

http://helderfonseca.planetaclix.pt/.../cascade02.jpg

http://helderfonseca.planetaclix.pt/.../cascade03.jpg

http://helderfonseca.planetaclix.pt/.../cascade04.jpg

1st stage is ready, although still no insulation.
http://helderfonseca.planetaclix.pt/.../cascade05.jpg

The pic of the sight glass shows that its fully liquid line :D
http://helderfonseca.planetaclix.pt/.../cascade06.jpg

Temp sensors were placed mid way the HX, top and bottom cause wanted to check some stuff of the design. -60 was very easy

http://helderfonseca.planetaclix.pt/.../cascade07.jpg

http://helderfonseca.planetaclix.pt/.../cascade08.jpg

http://helderfonseca.planetaclix.pt/.../cascade09.jpg

some more work done

http://helderfonseca.planetaclix.pt/.../cascade12.jpg

http://helderfonseca.planetaclix.pt/.../cascade11.jpg

time for evap
http://helderfonseca.planetaclix.pt/.../cascade13.jpg

brazing evap
http://helderfonseca.planetaclix.pt/.../cascade14.jpg

2nd stage ready for suction flexible hose

http://helderfonseca.planetaclix.pt/.../cascade16.jpg

2nd stage gauges, 1st stage ones are not connected yet. They will be place in the front, hopefully with a Cascade GFroster.
http://helderfonseca.planetaclix.pt/.../cascade17.jpg

Copper Flexible hose in place and expansion tanks also connected

http://helderfonseca.planetaclix.pt/.../cascade18.jpg

fired the cascade with Co2 and a bit r402a for pressure testing,
http://helderfonseca.planetaclix.pt/.../cascade19.jpg

... and with pure ethylene

http://helderfonseca.planetaclix.pt/.../cascade21.jpg

Awesome temps with a 28ºC ambient temp on workshop and HX only wrapped in armaflex, only the SLHX has the final insulation.
Still lots of work to be done, insulation, final electrics, case, paint job, Gfroster etc...
06-04-2006, 03:32 PM
wdrzal

[pressure relief valve ]

I'm glad to see all the time I spent on the :soap: did some good. finally seeing a lot of presure releif valves being used. At least now I don't fell like I was beating a dead:horse: or pounding my head against the :brick: . I'm so happy I'm going to :bounce: and :cheer: . Thanks guys :buddies: lets make Xs the best and safest cooling forum on the web. Not that it wasn't before.;)

Super work Blaster !!!!!
06-04-2006, 03:43 PM
Blaster

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdrzal

[pressure relief valve ]

I'm glad to see all the time I spent on the :soap: did some good. finally seeing a lot of presure releif valves being used. At least now I don't fell like I was beating a dead:horse: or pounding my head against the :brick: . I'm so happy I'm going to :bounce: and :cheer: . Thanks guys :buddies: lets make Xs the best and safest cooling forum on the web. Not that it wasn't before.;)

Super work Blaster !!!!!

yes they are essential in a cascade

pressurestat Danfoss KP15 and pressure relief valve Castel 3060
http://helderfonseca.planetaclix.pt/.../cascade10.jpg
06-04-2006, 04:33 PM
metalazzo

oh (I'll go to bed tonight less stupid :D)
Could you explain what are those things and why are they essential in a cascade ?
Thanks :)
06-04-2006, 04:39 PM
wdrzal

Those 2 items,pressure shut off control and pressure releif valve should be "MANDATORY" on all cascades.
06-04-2006, 04:40 PM
Carlz0r

Quote:

Originally Posted by metalazzo

oh (I'll go to bed tonight less stupid :D)
Could you explain what are those things and why are they essential in a cascade ?
Thanks :)

As far as I know, the pressure relief valve has a set pressure, just like blow off valves in automotive turbo systems. If the system pressure meets or exceeds that set pressure, the valve opens and releases refrigerant until the system pressure is once again below the valve's set pressure. That way, if there is a sudden rise of pressure, instead of blowing a joint or pipe, the cascade can safely lower pressure, greatly reducing risk of bodily harm.
06-04-2006, 04:47 PM
metalazzo

ok, thank you all for your explanations :toast:
It's used for safety then : to prevent "over pressure" and risks of pipes bursts :)
at least, I learnt something today ;)
06-04-2006, 05:56 PM
s7e9h3n

Wow...wonderful work there Blaster :toast:
06-04-2006, 06:09 PM
martinjon666

:slobber:

I love the copper flex line, thats just plain sexy :D

Very clean work, can't wait to see more!
06-04-2006, 09:40 PM
bri1

weew i want one
06-04-2006, 09:57 PM
jinu117

Very nice :) Very Nice :)
I like just about everything in there... :)
06-05-2006, 12:44 AM
|-jokker-|

Congrats my friend , like i said before , you have there a mean cold machine .
Good luck with the last preparations .
I want to see more :P -130ºC is the goal .
Indeed when i talked to Blaster he also explained me why the safety devices where so important . God one m8 ;)
06-05-2006, 12:45 AM
Unseen

Excellent work u have done :)
06-05-2006, 01:22 AM
cold_ice

These rotarys must pull an amzing vacuum, -124° with ethylene!
Me ordering rotarys for next cascade already :D
06-05-2006, 04:40 AM
kayl

that is some nice temps ya getting there blaster. thats the coldest i have seen with 1150 and a 2 stage cascade. Ya beat

what sort of HX did ya do inside that pipe, looks interesting hey.
06-05-2006, 04:43 AM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by kayl

that is some nice temps ya getting there blaster. thats the coldest i have seen with 1150 and a 2 stage cascade. Ya beat

what sort of HX did ya do inside that pipe, looks interesting hey.

no disrespect to Blaster, but isn't Tom Holck's 2 stager capable of -130C+?
06-05-2006, 05:08 AM
Jack

Quote:

Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

no disrespect to Blaster, but isn't Tom Holck's 2 stager capable of -130C+?

No Tom's cascade does -120* C w/o load

Edit: No, my bad. It does -120* C with load.
Check here, some info about Tom's cascade
06-05-2006, 07:49 AM
Blaster

Quote:

Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

no disrespect to Blaster, but isn't Tom Holck's 2 stager capable of -130C+?

hummm guess im gonna add some other gases to 2nd stage
06-05-2006, 09:26 AM
BlueAqua

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaster

hummm guess im gonna add some other gases to 2nd stage

:woot: That's the competition that Xtremesystems is all about!
06-05-2006, 12:32 PM
wdrzal

Blaster the new "Master" :clap: :clap: :clap: kinda has a nice ring to it.:)
06-05-2006, 02:50 PM
s7e9h3n

THE PROPER AUTHORITIES HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED

Somebody needs to make you a member of the -100C Club :D

On a side note...my 4000th post....:)
06-05-2006, 03:32 PM
jinu117

Well here comes my 3001 post.... geez... that many post? The real proper authority has been notified :)
06-05-2006, 05:07 PM
luf1c3r

Blaster good work, I have seen you here and he/she wanted to congratulate him for second time for the work ;)
I wait q you arrive at the -130ºC.

Greetings luf1c3r
06-05-2006, 05:17 PM
Blaster

Thnx guys! :toast:

Only had time to proper insulate HX today.

Wheres SSilencer :confused: I need the damn controller :D

Hey luf1c3r, remember you have a sister evap of this one :p:
06-05-2006, 10:58 PM
bazx

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaster

Thnx guys! :toast:

Only had time to proper insulate HX today.

Wheres SSilencer :confused: I need the damn controller :D

Hey luf1c3r, remember you have a sister evap of this one :p:

great work dude can you do a drawing of how ya hx works

thanks baz
06-06-2006, 01:42 AM
luf1c3r

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaster

Thnx guys! :toast:

Only had time to proper insulate HX today.

Wheres SSilencer :confused: I need the damn controller :D

Hey luf1c3r, remember you have a sister evap of this one :p:

Now I am mounting the waterchill-Gpu, what is necessary me is to get a cpev to control the waterchill. When it finishes it I will already put the pictures ;)
Although I also want to get R-402 that I don't find anybody that can take out it here in españa :(

This week the ssilencer package will come out, for house: D When it arrives I will be able to advance late task that tongo horn now.

Greetings luf1c3r
06-06-2006, 03:53 AM
kayl

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaster

Thnx guys! :toast:

Only had time to proper insulate HX today.
Wheres SSilencer :confused: I need the damn controller :D
Hey luf1c3r, remember you have a sister evap of this one :p:

hehehe ya not the only one, soon as those cascade controllers are ready mine ship and i can start my next cascade.
If you can write a cascade routine and pm it to SSilencer so gfroster can write the software. Its gonna be a mission to do that controller hey. But once its finished it will make cascades a lot safer.
06-20-2006, 03:25 PM
Blaster

this evap was going to another project but since i cant wait to test it going to braze it and put it on the cascade :D

cap goes on top mid, theres 5mm hole till bottom. Then 4 holes spread the gas to base and then it goes up the spiral that is 2 mm wide, 12mm deep

im proud of it, it weights 581 grs, thats a bit more than 1 lb buahahaah

http://helderfonseca.planetaclix.pt/...pcascade02.jpg

http://helderfonseca.planetaclix.pt/...pcascade03.jpg

http://helderfonseca.planetaclix.pt/...pcascade04.jpg
06-20-2006, 04:07 PM
[XC] MarioMaster

damn, that's one hell of an evap :D interesting to see results :up:
06-20-2006, 11:03 PM
bazx

it should hold a temp better imo
11-29-2006, 05:06 PM
Blaster

it wasnt an easy fit to put a new danfos OUB1 oil sep but its done

its working great now, evap is also working great

http://helderfonseca.planetaclix.pt/.../cascade25.jpg

http://helderfonseca.planetaclix.pt/.../cascade23.jpg

http://helderfonseca.planetaclix.pt/.../cascade26.jpg

pics with 185w load tester, this is not the normal load tester i use on prommys lol

http://helderfonseca.planetaclix.pt/.../cascade27.jpg

http://helderfonseca.planetaclix.pt/.../cascade28.JPG

Everything is completely frozen :toast:, even ice coming out from electrical wire

http://helderfonseca.planetaclix.pt/.../cascade29.jpg

http://helderfonseca.planetaclix.pt/.../cascade30.jpg

last photo is with load tester switch off, it was still going down but i didnt have any more time
11-30-2006, 06:28 AM
404Power

This 2-stage is RLY F*CKING AWESOME!! :D :slobber:
Keep it up! :)
11-30-2006, 09:05 AM
barzi

damn nice temps:D like the case too
11-30-2006, 09:56 AM
johann

One of the nicest cascades I have seen blaster, nice one mate.
11-30-2006, 01:03 PM
metalazzo

well for about 2HP, it's a pretty efficient cascade :eek:
very nice cascade, it's a really good work !!!! :woot:

edit: how long is captube on 2nd stage ?
11-30-2006, 01:58 PM
Blaster

2mts of 0,8 mm cap
11-30-2006, 03:13 PM
metalazzo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaster

2mts of 0,8 mm cap

thank you for the answer :toast:
11-30-2006, 03:35 PM
jinu117

Thought I was seeing Liquid nitrogen system for a second :) (both in looks and performance)... ehehe. Great job.
I like that evap.... definitely geared for benching with so much mass for less heat flux...
11-30-2006, 04:13 PM
-Acid-

Wow

I need to learn how to make one of them.
12-01-2006, 04:20 AM
Harshal

Nice Work. I am in no position to say it but I have seen it all here @ XS and this is really NEAT WORK, Blaster! Congrats!!
12-01-2006, 01:33 PM
DarkCow

great job. i like the insulation job!
12-01-2006, 01:40 PM
dinos22

rotaries are great :D :toast:
03-01-2007, 01:55 PM
Blaster

Final pics of the cascade, unit is complete, just waiting for special primer to aply to side covers, then it will be sprayed with the cascade color.

click here for video of cascade running :)

http://helderfonseca.planetaclix.pt/.../cascade33.jpg

http://helderfonseca.planetaclix.pt/.../cascade31.jpg

http://helderfonseca.planetaclix.pt/.../cascade34.jpg
03-01-2007, 02:01 PM
n00b 0f l337

Very very nice.
03-01-2007, 02:15 PM
blind_ripper

OMG thats one nice looking cascade blaster ;)
very clean and cool look
03-01-2007, 02:50 PM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaster

http://helderfonseca.planetaclix.pt/.../cascade34.jpg

LOL....you had to go and copy my autocascade, eh? :p: I'm planning on having my panels sent out and powder coated.....wait till you see her when she's done :D But in the meantime, we can all admire your wonderful work....Another great unit from Blaster :toast:
03-01-2007, 03:20 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaster

Final pics of the cascade, unit is complete, just waiting for special primer to aply to side covers, then it will be sprayed with the cascade color.

click here for video of cascade running :)

love the sound of those rotaries :D :toast:
03-01-2007, 05:56 PM
Polizei

Never heard a rotary running before... d*** those are loud.
03-01-2007, 07:44 PM
Noob-ftw

Those are loud! Great video btw, I've never seen a cascade in action.
03-01-2007, 07:56 PM
BlueAqua

Damn that sounds like it could mow my lawn, but sounds very powerful. Nice work.
03-02-2007, 03:18 AM
Blaster

Quote:

Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

LOL....you had to go and copy my autocascade, eh? :p: I'm planning on having my panels sent out and powder coated.....wait till you see her when she's done

haha i didnt copy !! :D mine is much smaller :p:

im a wet film paint kind of guy lol :banana:
03-02-2007, 09:53 AM
Brettbeck

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueAqua

Damn that sounds like it could mow my lawn, but sounds very powerful. Nice work.

LOL :D.

Really nice job Blaster!
03-02-2007, 11:19 AM
Polizei

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueAqua

Damn that sounds like it could mow my lawn, but sounds very powerful. Nice work.

rofl

Very nice... frost pics are fascinating.
03-02-2007, 11:25 AM
Blaster

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polizei

... frost pics are fascinating.

heheheeh yes

the evap has a protective sticky tape on it, its funny to realize that below -100 (in fact this is noticeble below -60) theres less frost build than at -40 or -30

also -120 doesnt stick :p
03-02-2007, 11:36 AM
Barnsley-Bill

Realy nice work Blaster I learn something everyday reading these post :)
03-02-2007, 11:43 AM
Brettbeck

Isn't it true that any Co2 in either the air around the evaporator, or making contact with it from your breath will instantly freeze into dry ice, with the evaporator temp near -100c or below?
03-24-2007, 05:52 PM
Blaster

with lack of good hardware to bench i bench my old stuff

using the cascade to cool my gaming rig, an old FX53 :toast:

Video of it running superpi 32m

http://helderfonseca.planetaclix.pt/...escritorio.jpg

http://helderfonseca.planetaclix.pt/...scritorio1.jpg
03-24-2007, 06:02 PM
sacha35

Nice job Blaster, very nice temps too.
03-24-2007, 06:56 PM
Noob-ftw

So beautiful!

What is the mhz on that FX-53? (Overclocked)
03-24-2007, 10:28 PM
blind_ripper

aaarrrrgggg have to love the sound of rotary's :D
03-25-2007, 12:27 AM
LittleDevil

Really nice Blaster ;)

regards
04-24-2007, 12:10 AM
hendo87

if u made that case from mdf board and put a buffer zone in for the fans, itd be near silent - it doesnt look too portable as it is lol!
10-03-2018, 06:55 AM
Xevipiu

https://i.postimg.cc/3x96dR7X/ff1.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/kG162K1r/ff2.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/PqjxrSXp/ff3.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/0Qm1MsV9/idle.jpg

https://www.facebook.com/XeviPiuXXII...5129521021139/

https://www.facebook.com/XeviPiuXXII...5129767107291/
10-03-2018, 06:57 AM
Xevipiu

Cascade 3 stage & 2 stage

https://i.postimg.cc/sXRJxS8W/cacade_1.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/FsJ1Wq19/cascade_2.jpg
10-03-2018, 09:51 AM
Buckeye

WOW Monsters !

So do these still work ?
Well it seems you have been using them... sorry this is an old thread and I didn't spot the other post until I looked back.
Looks like your getting ready to get rid of them ?
10-03-2018, 08:13 PM
Charles Wirth

Nice cascades, thanks for the new images.
10-04-2018, 05:13 AM
Xevipiu

Hi. I'm moved to a new game room :rolleyes:

They are in reconstruction and improvement, to withstand loads of 7980XE

- 3-stager: change plate heat exchanger (3 stage), repair leak (gas r14/r290)

- 2-stage: change compressor 1 stage, for LG GK151P 12.450 Btus (gas r404)

https://i.postimg.cc/zfDQcJVg/PIUS_1.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/9ffxBJnP/PIUS_2.jpg

Old videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3xPCRhS3Eo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u8Et3uuuLY
10-20-2018, 09:46 AM
Xevipiu

x2 new compressors and more material for the project

https://i.postimg.cc/gJVK2HdK/442348...38324224-n.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/Y9C1tKnt/443360...23851776-n.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/fbLp2v1y/2.jpg
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https://i.postimg.cc/43BxHmfC/chiller-001.jpg
10-20-2018, 03:41 PM
chispy

Awesome work there , looking good :up:
10-21-2018, 03:39 AM
MeltedDuron

nice! those pics bring back memories, it's great to see that beast is still in action :D