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ATi RD600
- 333MHz FSB
- 1T Command Rate
- CrossFire + Physics
- and much more :D
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conroe support??
yes ;)
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Originally Posted by FUGGER
Yes, Conroe support.
Are we looking at 8-phase?
"cleanup cube 3"
Is it dual 16x PCI-Express?
That is very, very nice. The only thing that could keep this from being a killer board is ATi's tendancy of being late.
EDIT: IT looks like DFI is working on one of these, so that is very, very promising!
Asus pulled that 8 phase bs with the A64 board... Couldnt hold a candle to a dfi.. So, 8 phase is more hype than anything else imho and they increase the price for it.
Looks like a nice chipset though.. I like the physics part.
I think it is, but this board only has 1 pci slot. Not like i need more but still some people do. I'm sill skeptical with this board stability, in my experience intel cpu+ intel chipset = less headake when overclocking
No, it's based on the RD480 chipset.Quote:
Originally Posted by C Stat B
LP UT
RD600-T2R/G
LGA775, DDR II, ATX, RD600+SB650
CF PCIeX8/X8, PCIeX1, 3 PCI
4 SATA II, 2 IEEE1394, 8 USB2.0
Dual GbE LAN, 8CH Audio
is that the PhysiX card or whatever its called cuz it sure looks like an ATI version of it....
That board looks like it's 4-phase. (But any manufacturer can implement what ever design they like)
IMHO, there's too much talk about phases. Often, the more phases, the fewer components, and then it's almost all the same.
Secondly, Conroe won't pull even close to the amount of current as Presler, so if the mobo manufacturers doesn't do something wrong, we're all set.
(Remember, Aopen's Yonah board only has 2 phases with 6 FETs or something, not much compared to normal i975X boards.)
Max FSB, vdimm, vcore options?
Very good point :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by crotale
That looks like the ATI reference board and probably will be produced by Sapphire. Which to say, it will be 6 months late and only 1 pci slot and crappy bios.
Comments: 4-layer? wtf? also, notice the "peer to peer performance" hehe ;)
DFI is releasing a ATI chip board i think before the 975x board.. Should be a good board. I dont know who else is releasing a ATI chip board. Maybe Abit?Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
i dont know, crossfire and SLI, sometimes its hard to choose, cos nvidia and ati dont release their high end product at the same time, so which ever product is the youngest is the best,
i.e. right now ATI X1900XTX is the youngest, therefore the best,
but G80 > ATI X1900XTX will come out in couple months , then R600 > G80 will come out end of the year
In my opinion it'd be nice with a board without any PCI-slots at all. It's time for the mobo manufacturers to start being a bit less conservative and embrace new standards instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
AFAIK the only limiting factor when it comes to removing the PCI-slots completely is audio cards (which should come in PCIe flavors soon hopefully).
While I'm on the subject, I also think it's time they put the PS/2 ports, parallell ports, serial ports, FDD ports and PATA ports *phew* to sleep forever. :D
BTW love that scene, theteamaqua :)
There will always be room for legacy stuff in my heart :).
they better have PCI slots im not going to upgrade if they drop them. i just got this M-audio REVO 7.1 about 4 months ago.
Well for those who didn't look at the english translation here it is.
News shared from Taiwan manufacturer, ATi would announce the most powerful Intel CrossFire platform chipset, ATi RD600, in the coming days. It’s temporarily named ATi Xpress 3200 Intel Edition and compatible to the new Intel Conroe processor. It would be manufactured by TSMC with 90nm process.
This product is targeted on enthusiastic user, supporting 1333MHz FSB, Dual Channel DDR2-1066 and providing Split Channel Mode to lower the latency. From the internal testing, a maximum of 1600MHz was reported in the over clock mode with A13 version, which has 6 PCB layers. In addition, the memory clock is independent to the FSB. It sounds good to the fans of over clocking.
ATi RD600 also provides Automatic PCIe Over clocking technology, which is similar to the Boostlink function of nVidia nForce 590SLi. When X1800 or X1900 is detected, the FSB of PCI-E would be raised to 125 MHz or even 150 MHz from 100 MHz automatically. On the mean while, ATi would release ASM for Windows platform, like the nTune by nVidia, providing tweaking options including FSB, Memory Clock, PCIe Clock, Memory Timings and Voltage Adjustment.
Furthermore, it has 48 PCI-E Lanes and supports for 3 PCI-E slots, 2 for CrossFire and 1 for Physics Acceleration. More details for ATi Physics Acceleration will be announced during Computex 2006. For the south bridge, SB600 will be used and it may eventually be coupled with SB650. Now we have no more news for SB650 and RD600 is expected to be launched in the summer.
48 PCI-e lanes thats nice . 3pci-e slots again nice . Looks like ATI is dead serious about PPU
If this chipset works as good as intels. I found the chipset I will be buying for Conroe this thing looks unbeatable. But befor I get to excited Will wait for you guys to buy and test. You guys are better than reviewers the way you push to the limit.
400 FSB is not enough. Needs to be closer to 600 FSB.
I do remember Fugger talkin about ATI is the chipset to have for Conroe. I can now see why he said that. Incredible! Looks like ill get a MSI to hold me over until the DFI comes out.
If ATI pushed it to 375, I would bet that this chipset is easily capable of 500+ in the hands of DFI and the XS members :)
I see your point but doesn't this make a differance .Quote:
Originally Posted by freecableguy
the memory clock is independent to the FSB. It sounds good to the fans of over clocking.
Or doesn't this mean anything?
ATI released the SB600 according to this preview
http://anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2767
ATI RD600 Details, Automatic Overclocking
Ready to do battle with the nForce 590 SLI Intel Edition and Intel 975X Express
DailyTech previously reported that Intel has no immediate plans to replace the Intel 975X chipset which was launched late last year. This leaves plenty of room for ATI and NVIDIA to move in and steal some of Intel’s high-end chipset market share. NVIDIA already has the nForce 590 SLI Intel Edition planned for Conroe and other LGA775 processors and ATI should be following suit with the RD600.
Our previous DFI roadmap article showed an ATI RD600 board in the works and now we have confirmed details on the new chipset. RD600 based boards will carry the Radeon Xpress 3200 CrossFire moniker and the Intel equivalent of the previously released RD580. It seems ATI is launching a full fledged attack on the nForce 590 SLI Intel Edition by offering similar features and then some. While NVIDIA has LinkBoost which overclocks the HyperTransport links between the MCP and SPP, ATI will have a similar feature that will overclock the PCI Express bus 25% which they claim improves dongle-less CrossFire performance.
According to documentation from ATI, RD600 looks like a monster. The board material claims the chipset can already support 1333MHz FSB with an expectation that it should reach 1500MHz FSB. Like NVIDIA's Tritium design, the RD600 platform is designed to appeal to the overclocker, although certain parameters will allow for the motherboard to automatically overclock.
The most notable feature of the RD600 is the memory controller. ATI has developed an elaborate memory controller that operates asynchronously from the front-side bus. No more memory dividers means the front-side bus can be overclocked drastically without being limited to memory. There will also be support for DDR2-1066 too. ATI claims the RD600 has been overclocked to 375 MHz (1500 MHz Quad pumped) using the current reference board.
Taking on the NVIDIA nTune software will be the ATI System Management (ASM) software application. ASM is a Windows XP utility that supports FSB, Memory Clock, PCI-E clock, memory timings and voltage adjustments.
While ATI has been quite hush on the physics processing side of things the RD600 will support motherboards with three PCI-Express x16 slots for three graphics cards. The kicker of this is two graphics cards will be used for CrossFire while a third X1000 series graphics can be used to process physics. There are no details on which graphics cards will be supported for Physics processing or if all three cards have to be matched or not but with NVIDIA claiming Physics support for most of the GeForce 7 family we expect ATI to follow suit.
The RD600 will be made on a 90nm process which allows it to run cool and consume less power. ATI has several other chipsets on the way as well. ATI RD600 motherboards are expected to retail for approximately $150 according to internal documents.
http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/1...i_rd600_oc.png
http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/1..._rd600_pin.png
:)
DFI and SB600 seems to be my chipset for Conroe.
Damn!! If this is true and really works out I'll surely be wanting one of the boards that will allow for the memory/fsb to be tweaked to the max without each one effecting the other.
Just when will they be available and hopefully not for $300 lol
FUGGER: this is aimed for you!Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
HOW COULD YOU? sHAME ON YOU!!
You had this gem for such a long time and said nothing about it :)
If it performs it will definitly be an alternative to Intel chipset motherboards.
That and the fact is has to be out before Conroe CPUs are retailing.
One question I know you can ans. Is it rock solid Stable?:fact:Quote:
Originally Posted by MnM
well just have to wait for nda to be lifted to find out.
I can't wait, then it'll be :party: time!Quote:
Originally Posted by z00mX
Its reported that this chipset will support DDR3 memory if thats true than the
memory clock is independent to the FSB. Is a rather big deal don't you think.
Its to bad DDR2 and DDr3 aren't pin compatiable. It sure would have Made these ati chipset M/B future proof.
I saw this around this morning. I am very interested and of course how it stacks up in real performance is what will matter. I hope it rocks.
So am i correct in thinking that the Intel chipsets cant do 1T command rate?
well... this Mobo doesn't look very interesting to me. didn't Ati claim a very high HTT for their AMD Mobos and did it become true?
I suppose that it won't beat the 975X in FSBs...
Seems like a nice board, but i've seen even intel bad axes running higher FSB then the reported 1500MHz...
Most of those Conroe previews we have seens are running on a FSB between 300 and 400Mhz. That's 1600Mhz.. Coolaler even did 425Mhz on his 975X Platinum, making it 1700Mhz...
3 PCI E? Where would you put the Sound Card if you had physix
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unrealcpu
please read again ;)
Actually it did come true.Quote:
Originally Posted by FischOderAal
FUGGER, can you share some more info on the "independent memory overclocking" thing?
Will RD600 support R600 with DDR4 ?
The 1500MHz was done on a 4layer M/B . It seems that on the 6 layer M/B 1600MHz=400 was achieved :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyline GT-R
If Fugger likes this M/B it must be a good one
I think "independent memory overclocking" is just like nForce 4 SLi Intel Edition;YOu can adjust FSB and Memory Clock independently,that is,FSB has nothing to do with Memory Clock any more.Quote:
Originally Posted by jrw
FSB tuning from 100MHz up to 400MHz at 1MHz increment
Memory tuning from 533MHz up to 1066MHz
Thats it.
For exsample, you cant get A 533FSB CPU work with DDR2-800 at 733MHz(any frequent You want) on i975x.
But nForce 4 SLi Intel Edition can do it.
And I guess that intel P965 have the same technology,too from ASUS P965 info.
I've had my bad axe up to 445FSB and run well over DDR-1100 with it. We are going to need at least 500FSB, with up to 600FSB being even better.
And when they do, we can START talking about that :stick: BTW, did you notice the Ageia card is only availabe in PCI as well?Quote:
AFAIK the only limiting factor when it comes to removing the PCI-slots completely is audio cards (which should come in PCIe flavors soon hopefully).
ageia won't last long...Quote:
And when they do, we can START talking about that BTW, did you notice the Ageia card is only availabe in PCI as well?
OK how about a little more info on the 1t thing, that would be a nice increase in performance, did someone just make that up and throw it in there for good measure?
Yeah but this is a referenceboard, couple that with DFI and we will be seeing those clocks in the rearview mirror.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyline GT-R
I was able out muscle the XBX board at equil FSB and speed.
The caps close to the CPU socket are too close and too tall on existing design, this needs to be changed before release. Hopefuly DFI and other mfg's will make corrections.
Very strong board with stable power. The vdimm goes up to 2.5v
ASM is a nice util that gives you a bit more control that anyone here is used to. Some stuff I have not yet figured out. I do think there is a way to adjust memory timing in ASM but it may not be fully functional yet.
Overclocking the PCIE resulted in no stability problems at max setting, normally on Intel I would have problems around 115Mhz.
Onboard RAID is very strong. HDTach with dual RaptorX drives would pull around 120MB/s on the Intel boards and 160MB/s + on the ATI board.
I have not played with dongle-less CF yet.
HDMI is built in
As pointed out early in this thread, the x factor of Macci@ATI.
looking like a very actractive board ,any vcore optoins for the conroe? wonder if this mb can run with 2x 7900 gtx?
sweat! i only wish it was nvidia so i could run 2 7900gts:( but what ever i want to see how the 590 sli clocks with conroe! then i will buy.
The reference board is only 4 layers. With a 6 layer board, signal integrity and power delivery is better and overclocking will improve further.
Quote:
Originally Posted by freecableguy
ATI "Conroe" Benchmarks Surface
Documents containing ATI lab testings on "Conroe" overclocking and performance surface
A non-confidential document of Conroe benchmarks on Intel and ATI motherboards surfaced earlier this week. RD600, which we reported on DailyTech yesterday, was the primary motherboard featured in the testing, but ATI also featured an Intel 975X motherboard for comparison.
The slides contain benchmarks for 3DMark2001SE, 3DMark03, 3DMark05, 3DMark06, Fear 1.03, FarCry and Everest 2.80. Unfortunately, these benchmarks are for the most part GPU bound, but what is most interesting about these slides is the overclocking. The benchmarks include the testing of a Core E6300 (1.86GHz 1066FSB) processor running at 2.4GHz with a 1372MHz front side bus.
Intel will lift a general embargo about Conroe on June 4th, 2006, and the company roadmaps have detailed CPU pricing for July 23, 2006.
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2657
I hope this board will have better support and less problems than the RDX200...
hi grayskull , kan you tell us if we kan get the vapo ls to fit on this mb? as the caps round the cpu are quite close ,Quote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
The best thing about this chipset IMO is the independent memory timing, which means you can clock your FSB as high as it will go without worrying about memory speeds, timings or ratios.
nforce 4 SLi Intel edition did it for a long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by de redhead
NF4 intel edition sucks overclocking, so isn't an option.Quote:
Originally Posted by ost_2005
BTW, already asus P5WD2 series have caps near the socket the same way that ati board, isn't impossible, just more difficult to get phase change running...
ls is no problem om p5wd2-e ,i have it running no problem ,just seems closer on the ati board .Quote:
Originally Posted by ^don.k's^
All in all, I'm very excited with this board.
And from what i read somewhere (can't find the link), you can actually use a X1xxx series card in the third PCIe slot for physics processsing.
Shoot me down in flames if i'm wrong, but :slobber:
There was someone who mentioned using a X1600 as the physics and two X1900's in CF for graphics...or maybe I just dreamt that up last nite...:nuts:
RD600 > i975x or is it to early to tell?
Kinda ugly lol, just hope a 7900GT will agree with it.
nothing new about this board. cuz im Anxiously waiting for updates on this board
Wow, i really hope the price is that low. When will these boards hit retailers (newegg prefered), end of june, beginnin july?Quote:
The RD600 will be made on a 90nm process which allows it to run cool and consume less power. ATI has several other chipsets on the way as well. ATI RD600 motherboards are expected to retail for approximately $150 according to internal documents
Exactly. From your mouth to the mobo manufacturer's ears!Quote:
Originally Posted by freecableguy
It was Tony AKA Big Toe who said about the X1600 being used for physics and X1900 being used in CF mode all at the same time. Should be good!
Subscribed!
Is it out yet?
No sign of it in Scandinavia ;)
No1 has a clue when its gonna be out :(.
Hopefully sometime in August!
I think I have read September somewhere but that could very well be wrong...I hope to god it is cause my birthday is August 5 - just in time for Conroe :D.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meefle
That would suck if we had to wait until September for these babies...
Wait I'm Really Lost Why this board is so amazing
-It only has 8x/8x pci-e slots?
-Max FSB of 375?
Will someone explain why its so great?
I understand the whole DDR1066 memory, not memory dependant overclocking, automatic graphics card overclock
Sry for such a n00b question
Also whats a good motherboard that is going to be like $150ish to use until this sucker comes out!
No where has it said max fsb of 375.Quote:
Originally Posted by hookid
the board supposedly has 48 pci-e lanes, so I highly doubt it will be 8x/8x, I think DFI printed wrong.
48 lanes
-16 for gfx 1
-16 for gfx 2
-4 for physics
still leaves 12 lanes left for usb, sata, audio and all the stuff, so I highly doubt it is just 8x/8x
This is just some data of a reference board.Quote:
Originally Posted by hookid
Imagine this chipset in Oskar Wu's hands. DFI's LP version of this RD600+SB650 will be a huge badass board.
I am very weary of ATI chipsets. I have never regarded them as high performance and OCing type boards.
Take another look on CFX3200. Best 939 board EVER.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottFern
ATIs first chipset (RD480) was a classic first-timer with bugs and lacked OCability. The Express 3200 changed it all and proved to be an awsome chipset.
I feel confident the RD600 will be even better :)
And for DFI - well, doesn't their nF4 boards speak for themselves?
What about the 375FSB, thats not very good.....
or does that depend upon what DFI decides to make it?
Well honestly I hope I am wrong. I am not trying to bash ATI but I was just unaware of how much their mobos have come along.Quote:
Originally Posted by jrw
read. it does not state that 375 is the max FSB.Quote:
Originally Posted by hookid
looks good but price?
Exactly. That 375 mark is just what ATI did on an Engineering Sample.Quote:
Originally Posted by vapb400
[IMHO] Since it seems to be a semi-official statement, you better believe that a corporation is going to lean toward the conservative. I wouldn't think ATI would want to be spouting any claims about attainable ANYTHING (FSB, clocks, etc...) unless it was reproduceable under almost all circumstances. Otherwise you get the backlash of the thousands of idots out there that have no business even looking at a bios screen, that try to OC and flood forums with posts about how a company said product "X" could do this, and I can't get anywhere near that good of results. [/IMHO]
Any word on price?
ok, sorry didn't understand thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Rustafur
Whats a good board to last me until RD600? It doesn't have to have Crossfire/SLI
Asus P5B?
Quote:
Any word on price?
I quoted that on third page too....Quote:
The RD600 will be made on a 90nm process which allows it to run cool and consume less power. ATI has several other chipsets on the way as well. ATI RD600 motherboards are expected to retail for approximately $150 according to internal documents
Eta?
Rd600 > 975?
I hope the layout is better. After the minial slots on the a8n32, I am very picky about layout. The ref has a similar layout. Hopefully they will get more slots in there. I still don;t unterstand the desire to put pci-e x4 slots on the board when the interface is not even ubiquitous.
Edit: Holy cow! this is my first post? I swear that I have posted here before. Oh well, lame first post.
I wonder if these boards are slated for a release next week like the other 975/965 boards. If they want them to get bought up quick they would be smart to release them with the intel chipset boards.
Well, engineering samples should be finished by the end of this month according to DFI's roadmap.
Retail should be soon.
Yeah DFI is quick about that. I thought it was going to be a while for the cfx3200 to come out a few months ago, but it just popped out of nowhere. Maybe because the a8r32 was garnering all the attention.
I am REALLY interested in seeing the DFI rd600.
is the price (150) us dollars and is that rrp or wholesalers price
Should be RRP. I don't think wholesalers are going to get anything out of it if it's that low...
If the DFI Infinity 975X/G is listed here in Europe at 189.90€, don't expect the DFI LP RD600+SB650 to be cheaper.
Also dont expect it anytime soon either (if the inquirer is right):Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixxxer
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32576
is the rebate for the mastercard, normal card, or both. Cuz i just bought a X1900XT from newegg on friday if it they lower the price...... that would suck for me :(
The way I read it that you have to buy the Master card (x1900XT Crossfire edition) and a 975 chipset motherboard in order to qalify for the rebate.
nice, after i get a RD600 board, heres a chance for me to finally get CF! :DQuote:
We also expect ATI to reduce the prices of X1900 Crossfire cards and it may make perfect sense to buy Conroe with two ATI cards and an Intel board.
Yeah depends on how much the reductions and WHY this price reduction! Maybe Nvidia is releasing something in that timeframe?