ATI RD600 Photos + a little ATI Physics Details

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06-01-2006, 11:42 AM
vapb400

ATI RD600 Photos + a little ATI Physics Details

http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?tid=608109

http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/attachments...hMAGnzn5og.jpg
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/attachments...vNlj8o8YNr.jpg
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/attachments...ll93TI8QNy.jpg
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/attachments...CaQBS3DvEC.jpg
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/attachments...2UlifMjGnf.jpg

Looks very interesting, it has 48 PCI-E pipelines so hopefully we will be able to run 16x + 16x when we aren't using Physics.

Looks like a great chipset, I wonder how independent the independent fsb/mem speeds are.
06-01-2006, 11:44 AM
the

tthhhaattt swhat daddy likes. dual gpu + physyhxsyhxyhsyhxyhsxyh
06-01-2006, 11:45 AM
k0nsl

I couldn't agree more - looks very promising.

-k0nsl
06-01-2006, 11:47 AM
Cooper

I remember Fugger told about this chipset back in March-April. Looks very promising. And it would be possible to use 16x+16x with 3rd card for Physics calculations pluged in. I just wonder how soon will 6 layers PCB will be out ?
06-01-2006, 12:12 PM
Kallenator

Sweet mother of jesus that board looks sooooo :D :D :D

Me want :fact:

Macci! Time to for you to get one and show us ^^

http://www.hwupgrade.it/immagini/ati...herboard_2.jpg
Is that VGA I see there over the Audio stuff??
06-01-2006, 12:23 PM
Major_A

What's the retail on it going to be, $250+ US? Another thing I noticed that is starting to get out of control is this whole "buy XXX brands and they will work better". I'm refering to the automatic PCIe overclocking with ATi cards.

Other than that I'm sure it will be a monster.
06-01-2006, 12:35 PM
Vassili

Very nice chipset, FUGGER was right again!:slobber:

Quote:

X1K Data Parallel Processor

I hope my old X850 works to for physics. Can anyone conform that?
06-01-2006, 12:44 PM
ettis

omg... me want! :shocked:

Releasedate anyone?
06-01-2006, 12:50 PM
rozzyroz

may be the first time i would consider a non-intel chipset for an intel cpu :clap:
06-01-2006, 12:51 PM
Master_G

Sweet looking board, release date and price are now the crucial elements (+realising the performance obviously)

G
06-01-2006, 12:53 PM
Cobalt

Quote:

Originally Posted by Major_A

What's the retail on it going to be, $250+ US? Another thing I noticed that is starting to get out of control is this whole "buy XXX brands and they will work better". I'm refering to the automatic PCIe overclocking with ATi cards.

Other than that I'm sure it will be a monster.

The auto OCing is just a response to what nV are doing but I doubt the trend will continue for long. You could easily manully adjust the PCIe frequency if you were using a different brand card as we know now that both sets of hardware support it hehe.

I' more interested in the independent memory OCing. Does this mean we could stop worrying about finding the best divider and just clock it to whatever speed we like (so it becomes like having an adjustable PCI lock)? Or is it that the mem will always stay at stock while you can OC the CPU as far as you want? If it is the first option then I'm moving to AM2 ASAP!
06-01-2006, 12:58 PM
MaxxxRacer

very cool. Intel is looking more and more promissing by the second.
06-01-2006, 01:03 PM
Cooper

Only thing about pci-e OCing that bovers me - will this only be for GPUs slots ? Won`t this have any side effect on other HW like HDs or other pci-e ad-in cards ?
06-01-2006, 01:04 PM
Major_A

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobalt

The auto OCing is just a response to what nV are doing but I doubt the trend will continue for long. You could easily manully adjust the PCIe frequency if you were using a different brand card as we know now that both sets of hardware support it hehe.

I know nVidia is doing this too, sucks for people like me who buy what they can afford that performs the best.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobalt

I' more interested in the independent memory OCing. Does this mean we could stop worrying about finding the best divider and just clock it to whatever speed we like (so it becomes like having an adjustable PCI lock)? Or is it that the mem will always stay at stock while you can OC the CPU as far as you want? If it is the first option then I'm moving to AM2 ASAP!

Interesting, I didn't really know what that meant, and if your interpretation is correct that is awesome.
06-01-2006, 01:10 PM
Cooper

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobalt

I' more interested in the independent memory OCing. Does this mean we could stop worrying about finding the best divider and just clock it to whatever speed we like (so it becomes like having an adjustable PCI lock)? Or is it that the mem will always stay at stock while you can OC the CPU as far as you want? If it is the first option then I'm moving to AM2 ASAP!

Not quite correct. This board is for Intel. And Intel doesn`t have build-in mem controller. It`s on a chipset - so ATI can modify it any way they want. AMD won`t have independent clocking ability cos mem controller is in CPU.
06-01-2006, 01:26 PM
BlackX

Its seems that 2007 rig will double bench scores.. cant w8 :banana:
06-01-2006, 01:32 PM
vapb400

Just noticed that there is no mention of the originally rumored DDR3 support.
I am gonna get the DFI R600 board + conroe this summer and then get a cheap gfx card to tide me over to R600 and Physics.
I'm really hoping that the independent mem/fsb drops the use of a divider, but we shall see.
I'm wondering if Crossfire is a requirement before adding the Physics card.
06-01-2006, 01:40 PM
Cobalt

What I ment was that I'd be moving to this platform. AM2 just came out because I was asked to build one for a friend and I was looking at the mobo while I was writing it. Conroe etc looks too good to pass up anyway but I just need funds. Selling my 939 rig looks to be hard although this 3200 clocks quite well but I'm held back by the mobo so I might get something good for that.
06-01-2006, 02:16 PM
Repoman

So.. you can OC the FSB with one option and the mem in another option! Awesome! Is this a Conroe supporting board?
06-01-2006, 02:19 PM
vapb400

Quote:

Originally Posted by Repoman

So.. you can OC the FSB with one option and the mem in another option! Awesome! Is this a Conroe supporting board?

i hope thats what it means and yes it supports conroe.
06-01-2006, 02:20 PM
freecableguy

ugh, the caps are way too close to the socket for proper insulation
06-01-2006, 02:59 PM
vapb400

Thats only the reference board though, hopefully DFI will give us some clearance
06-01-2006, 03:02 PM
nn_step

I wonder what they mean by Independent memory overclocking....
06-01-2006, 03:15 PM
[XC] hipno650

so you can use any ati 1xxx card for physics so if i bought a 1600 it would work:D ? if so that would be the best but that means i would have to swicth to ati for dual vid cards:mad:
06-01-2006, 03:30 PM
idiotec

Man, this is definitely making me think the DFI LP with this chipset will be a kick ass board. I want it! :D
06-01-2006, 05:16 PM
kryptobs2000

Could you have 2 cards and use one for physics or is it required that you have crossfire in order to have a physics card? I see no reason why the first option wouldn't work. If that is the case it's not such a bad idea, whenever you upgrade your videocard you basically upgrade ur physics card with ur old videocard, but if it's the second option I'm pretty dissapointed, I still don't like the idea of 2 videocards, now we need 3?
06-01-2006, 05:17 PM
z00mX

can't wait til this board and conroe to come out... all i can do is drool for now...:woot:
06-01-2006, 05:17 PM
ahmad

Ooooo me likes.
06-01-2006, 05:47 PM
vapb400

Quote:

Originally Posted by kryptobs2000

Could you have 2 cards and use one for physics or is it required that you have crossfire in order to have a physics card? I see no reason why the first option wouldn't work. If that is the case it's not such a bad idea, whenever you upgrade your videocard you basically upgrade ur physics card with ur old videocard, but if it's the second option I'm pretty dissapointed, I still don't like the idea of 2 videocards, now we need 3?

I hope it is the first situation, I am not a multi GPU guy either.

All the details should be out at Computex which is June 6-June 10
06-01-2006, 05:59 PM
perkam

Quote:

http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/attachments...CaQBS3DvEC.jpg

Neato :p Pushing physx out of business :D

Perkam
06-01-2006, 06:13 PM
kcnyc

What is the estimated ETA????

Amazing stuff......
06-01-2006, 06:20 PM
vapb400

Its supposed to go into production around now as per this roadmap:
http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/1..._rd600_pin.png

we have not heard of any manufactures besides DFI that plan to have an R600 board (this will certainly change). DFI plans to mass produce their board in August as per this roadmap:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1148599492

Hopefully we will see the DFI and other boards by July 23rd
06-01-2006, 07:10 PM
mr_knowitall15

man that looks promising. I like the big gap between the PCI-E slots, no clearence probs with high end cards and/or good cooling. Crossfire+Physics+Conroe= Seriously :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:in gaming/benching rig! :toast: :banana: :woot:
06-02-2006, 04:26 PM
Grayskull

Independent memory overclocking. Independent FSB overclocking. There are controls for each one. So now you can max out both memory and FSB at the same time.

Also there's no funny business going on with memory speed when the FSB is heavily clocked...like some other solutions. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobalt

The auto OCing is just a response to what nV are doing but I doubt the trend will continue for long. You could easily manully adjust the PCIe frequency if you were using a different brand card as we know now that both sets of hardware support it hehe.

I' more interested in the independent memory OCing. Does this mean we could stop worrying about finding the best divider and just clock it to whatever speed we like (so it becomes like having an adjustable PCI lock)? Or is it that the mem will always stay at stock while you can OC the CPU as far as you want? If it is the first option then I'm moving to AM2 ASAP!
06-02-2006, 04:28 PM
Grayskull

The pci-e graphics clock and other pci-e clocks are separate. So no worries about pci-e onboard devices or plug in devices (other than graphics) failing at elevated clocks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cooper

Only thing about pci-e OCing that bovers me - will this only be for GPUs slots ? Won`t this have any side effect on other HW like HDs or other pci-e ad-in cards ?
06-02-2006, 05:49 PM
nn_step

Quote:

Originally Posted by vapb400

Its supposed to go into production around now as per this roadmap:
http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/1..._rd600_pin.png

Hmmmm DDR3, now that is a very sexy feature...
06-02-2006, 06:51 PM
lizardmech

Wheres the 3rd gpu supposed to fit? :stick:
06-03-2006, 01:37 AM
Cobalt

The reference mobo doesn't have three PCIe x16 slots but it is supported in the chipset.

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