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Jesus, those Conroe prices are obscene. I can't believe they're that low. AMD better have a lot more than K8L up its sleeve.
Looks like they want to get at AMD really hard while they are stronger.
I wonder how much financial reserves they have to do that? They were already "sponsoring" the lower clocked Netburst dual-cores.
3.4ghz presler '945' @ 163$? Holy crap, count me in.
Holy :banana::banana::banana::banana:.
I think I just wet my pants.
So July 23rd is when they will actually be in stock in stores or just being shipped to stores? Or neither?
wow, thats teh cheap. still too expensive for me though lol...one day
Ya, thats unreal, cant believe thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Dillusion
Hail Intel!
Is there any europian version of it?
6600 is going to be a killer chip, best one ever price / performance
Like 2.4C back then :)Quote:
Originally Posted by metro.cl
you don't even know what the K8L is like, it might be more than enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by aMp
But I certainly didn't expect Intel to beat AMD to initiating price cuts. AMD needs to be doing that more than Intel, Intel's CPUs are already very reasonably priced.
But I guess since the Conroe was developed Intel is imposing higher performance standards on the market, and asserting lower value with current performing parts. They're preparing us for a new age in computing.
Guys... you're forgetting something:
AMD has the memory controller integrated into the CPU, this means the CPUs are marginally more expensive, but the motherboards are cheaper (not to mension colder chipsets).
I think AMD is streching it's lead to the max, the day Conroe hits (which may be for a while) AMD drops it's prices through the floor.
As for K8L and all the CPUs AMD is releasing this year: Don't worry, it'll be allright. AMD will still have excellent performance (al be it perhaps marginally behind) and the price performance ratio will be better then ever.
People are becoming crazy just because of rumours about pricing and great integer bench performance. Conroe is good, but people are making it out to be the ultimate CPU.
because it is...?Quote:
Originally Posted by Thorry
I just think AMD been riding the wave a bit to long..
I bit like Nvidia using same tech for ages..
That 820 price ..... $93 .. great for Joe six packs.
E6600 at $300 .. goodbye FX-62.....
AMD has ridden the gravy train for along time now thanks to a great chip and Intel pissing in the wind. The AMD train is about to come off the rails now, at least in desktop, if Intel can supply enough for the demand.
Regards
Andy
That's what I meant. Even if K8L can equal Conroe on the performance front (which I don't doubt) it won't be enough unless it can compete on price as well (which I do). Can AMD really sustain a profit while dropping prices by 30-40 percent?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cybercat
So now would be the perfect time to get ready to buy that Photoshop rig..
wow, i can build f@h rigs for nothing :woot: :banana:
Actually they would perform better doing Folding but it would be a useful idea.. Trading Good Folding Rigs time for Good R@H rigs time.. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by 3NZ0
SWEET :woot:
I think Conroe E6600 is the way to go! :toast:
erm, f@h = folding. :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
Sorry was thinking R@H.. I guess Rosetta is on the mind latelyQuote:
Originally Posted by 3NZ0
Great to see great performance CPUs going at awesome budget prices again! :woot:
Yeah, P4s actually look like good buys at those prices. Hmmm presler.
K8L is expected 1 year later ?
:off:
K8L is expected early next year as the first 65nm FX. It may or may not match Kentfsield that will be the XE at that time. It may or may not match the price either.
Love the prices.:banana:
This is great news for us, the more the competition heats up, the less we spend ;)
From what I read on Dailytech K8L is going to require another new socket type anyway so is not an AM2 upgrade as such.
Looks like Brisbane and other revision G's will be the AM2's saviour, maybe...Quote:
Unless AMD's plans change drastically between now and 2008, the processors will require a new socket.
It's probably smart to sit back until the dust settles after the Core Duo 2 launch to see who's The Boss.
BTW D805 & D820 for $93. What a massive price drop on the D820! :eek:
Really? It makes mobos cheaper? Have you checked the prices on some of the premium good clocking mobos for AMD? I remember I can get an IC7 for a little over 100 bucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thorry
From the looks of it, Intel really wants to drive AMD into the ground this time. They weren't able to do it with their Northwood chips or their Presshot chips. Now they got the necessary weapons plus lowered production costs due to reduced die, AMD got a handful. THey better have something up their sleeves and fast and w/o any delays. The German govt wants their money back.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...525154847.html
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Intel Core 2 Launch Will Make Dual-Core Chips to Cost under $100
Pictures, which look like slides from the roadmap of Intel Corp. have been published by an Asian web-site, revealing that Intel’s highly-anticipated Conroe processors will be launched in less than two months from now and also uncovering Intel’s intention to decease the price of entry-level dual-core chips to the levels of value Intel Celeron processors.
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Originally Posted by sladesurfer
I'd rather go for the E6600 for 2x cost than buy a P805. I'll go for a P805 once it's down to $50 or $100 with a MB that OCs.
that's a $93 for an 805 this coming fall/winter...
that price seems about right, how can anyone want a pentium chip when am2 and conroe will be out?
THose chips are cheep, does anyone now the prices of the Xeon's?
Intel's last few major launches (Yonah) for example, were targetted to release an appreciable amount to OEMs and system builders. I would expect that Intel will also flood the channel suppliers as quickly as possible. My guess is you could by a Dell, HP or such the day of launch, but it will likely take a few weeks to see them pop up at new egg for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesAvery22
You have summed it up.... 65 nm and K8L cannot come soon enough. They have 820 million in capex to depreciate this year alone, and the took none of it in Q1.Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
Intel appears to be gunning for their bottom line in a huge way.
Are you kiddin', at 93 bucks I can drop into my current MB/system and get a nice boost while I wait for Kentsfield. There will be a decent surge in demand even after Conroe launches because at those prices, heck I spend more going out to dinner with the family. I think I can skip a weekend of dinner out to get a new CPU.Quote:
Originally Posted by b0bd0le
I guess this confirms the new XE chip based on Conroe will be 1066 FSB and 2.93 GHz right?:stick:
Smart move for intel, bad for us:mad:
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Since when is a IC7 a "high premium good clocking mobo?" A Ultra-D is just 100-125.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
Hey both boards designed by teh same guy:p: There's always going to be budget boards, but full fledged boards will cost all arms and all legs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vassili
there's no reason to need another socket.. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by FireTech
You can't compare old stuff to new stuff on pricing, if only for the inflation... (among many many many other reasons, think about the explosive price of oil) :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
Also so called premium overclocking motherboards are pure marketing and mostly not expensive because of the tech used. We've all seen what the K7S5A could do...
And just because the chipset is cheaper doesn't mean the rest of the motherboard can't be expensive to build making the overall price higher.
If you check the budget boards (not retail but OEM price) you'll see the chipset makes up about 80% of the price. If the chipset is 25% cheaper you'll see 20% cheaper motherboards.
If you check more glamarous boards the chipset only accounts for 50% of the price, so the mobo is 12,5% cheaper. Since motherboard producers focus on a product for a certain budget range you'll always see 200$ motherboards no matter how cheap the chipsets.
Except this one will cost 316.... when available.... (we can't say for sure it will be widely available the 23th of July)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooper
Also, did you people notice that the cheaper Conroes have 2MB of L2 cache... does it affect the Conroe core too much performance-wise?
If you spend that much going out to dinner, you're in the wrong market. I spend that much on dinner for an entire month.Quote:
Originally Posted by JumpingJack
Depends on how large and how 'large' your family is... :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by r3w4
E6300? Presler 930? Presler 945?
:eek:
Ave,
I got a question... looking at this chart, there a 945 (no VT). What does the "No VT" mean? I was gonna purchase a Pentium D 930 in the next few days... i was pretty happy to see the price go down from $200 to $178 come June 4th. But the 945 (no VT) 3.4 GHz is $163... even more inviting!! I just don't know what the "no VT" stands for.
Are these gonna be available in US, online stores like newegg, zipzoomfly, come June 4th & July 23rd?
Thanks.
Heh! "no VT" stands for Virtualisation Technology so probably you don't need it ;)
Ave,Quote:
Originally Posted by Lightman
Thanks for the response. I read up on this "Virtualisation Technology" on the Intel website. I'm building a new rig, primarily focussed on Websites Designing/Development, Digital Animation, Rendering, Video Encoding, Authoring DVD's, Burning etcetera.
Keeping this in view, would you recommend the Pentium D 930 ($178) or the Pentium D 945 (no VT) ($163). The price difference isn't really much... but getting 3.4 GHz for less sounds better then getting 3.0 GHz for more, unless the Pentium D 930 has any advantage over the 945 that "i" would benefit from.
Thanks,
Mickey
Ave,
Question: The June 4th Price Cuts we were supposed to see ... when are they expected to hit online stores in US? It's 5th today, nothing visible as yet.
Thanks.
Give it two weeks ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by mickey79
:D I can wait!
Have to wait for a Core 2 Duo motherboard anyways!
Thanks :)
Good thing I had already finished my coffee when I saw that pricing sheet; that E6600 price would have caused a spit-take all over my *monitor* (let alone the keyboard). That is easily a new low for a midrange processor at launch. And look at the pricing for the surviving Preslers and Smithfields! Sub-$200 Smithfield (especially the bargain-basement D 805) I was expecting; a sub-$200 P-D 930 (which does NOT replace the P-D 920, but is priced identically to it) I did not expect. However, that is indeed what happens in July when Conroe launches. But I'm curious; what is the reason for the new P-D 945 (which we are already aware does not support VT) and that sub-930 introductory pricetag? What *else* is it missing besides VT support?Quote:
Originally Posted by aMp
Actually, more like the 2.6C (the real midrange Northwood-C), as the 2.4C (for some reason) didn't venture outside of OEM territory very far (and would be quickly superseded by the 2.4E). The E6600 is shaping up to be the processor to finally get the last of the Northwood owners off the fence (in fact, it actually costs less than the 2.6C did at launch).Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooper
In terms of pricing for performance, the E6600 is, qute honestly, rather frightening.
the good deals lie in the e6600, 945 and 805! im getting a e6600 for me along with mobo and ram! getting a vid card and hdd for my current rig and using it for my lan basement and upgrading to the 945 in it then using my p4 650 in another mobo that i will buy for other rig in lan basement.
I know Intel's got manufacturing capacity coming out the wazoo, but I still don't get how they can offer a chip -- any chip -- with dual 4MB caches at a $316 initial price point. That size cache should mean huge dies, meaning Intel's not getting great yields no matter how polished the process. There are only so many big dies you can cut from a wafer.
Somebody help me out here. Are they really able to make chips like this in quantity for low cost, or are they selling at or near cost in order to stave off AMD? Some combination of both?
They are doing that to Try to hurt AMD alot, and they are willing to sell procs AT Production cost inorder to do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by aMp
it doesnt have dual 4mb caches. it has a single 4mb cache that is shared between the cores.Quote:
Originally Posted by aMp