QX9770 vs QX9650

Hey all,

I'm considering doing a small upgrade to my current rig and give it some more lifespan.
I'm considering passing from my Q9450 that tops at 3.44ghz to an extreme edition and try t push for 4ghz air (i have decent air cooling, thermalright ultra 120 with 2 scythe 120 fans pushing/sucking).

You'll tell me "we are playing with i7 and you are still there? Well my budget doesn't allow me to move to a higher platform. Currently I can find a Qx9650 at a fairly good price. Do you think it's worth looking for a QX9770 instead? Will the QX9650 give me the same results? (I understand I should aim for a SLAWN C1 stepping).

Please give me your wisdom!Thanks for your time!

Save your money a bit and wait for sandy brigde!
You won't get a big bump with that upgrade!!! Trust me!

Hey Emertx, thanks for answering! Well i'm not planning to buy a new comp for at least 3 years from now, so I want to do that upgrade since I will be taking my comp apart to clean up the dust etc. So I will change the processor. Thanks anyway for your input.

Then take a Q9650! That'll be the best price/Performance!

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C1 Stepping is bad...very bad!
Look out for E0!

I thought QX9650 and QX9770 don't come in E0...only the Q9650 comes in E0 but that's not extreme edition and multiplier is locked.

What are you promising yourself with an unlocked multi?
Your are under air! Don't forget that!!!

I'm hoping for 3.9-4ghz...I've seen plenty of 9650 hitting 4ghz without problems under air on this forum.

So...Why do you think a QX is better!
Buy a Q9650...look what mine has done in the past...that was a q9550
http://www.abload.de/thumb/unbenannt4350_2hya2.jpg

Wow nice...well my Q9450 can't go over 3440mhz and i wanted an exterme edition that most definitely will hit 4ghz...the price difference betwee Q9650 and Qx9650 is almost meaningless..I think the latter goes higher than the first.

Nope!!!
Definately not! The QX will be so damn hot!!! I think you won't hit the 4GHZ stable!
You'd better look out for a better board, like a Gigabyte UD3 or something - then your Q9450 will maybe hit the 4GHZ

Have a look here:
http://www.hardwareluxx.de/community...-a-705063.html

Thanks i'll check it out though my German is a bit rusty. Any other experts that have opinion to share?

Q9650 ftw, in case you want to stick with S775 mate... I had a very good QX9650 did 4Ghz deadeasy at 1.2Vcore under water (though 400FSB) 500FSB took 1.3Vcore for the same speeds with a lot of extra heat...

Ofcourse to go high with Q9650 you need 450FSB, I have no clue if your motherboard can do that... most happy Q9650 users are running them on Gigabyte EP45 UD3P, USB3 motherboards.... so maybe the unlocked multie of the extreme ain't a bad idea...

If the monetary difference is negligable, get the QX9770 definitely - assuming you're still keen on the unlocked multi.
Otherwise as stated the Q9550s should be quite abit cheaper - mine hit 4.2 without even breaking a sweat.
Also need to consider the thermal output of the chip under air.

I think your motherboard is holding back your OC, but if you must upgrade I would get an E0 Q9550. They are cheaper and pretty much guaranteed to hit 4+ghz.

go for the q9550 E0. it's the best choice by far...
i've one q9550 C1 stepping, and it does easily 4 ghz on water @ 1.35v and it can bench easily @ 4.25ghz @ 1.45v

i don't have any info on how much it should cost by now, but it should be damn cheap... i bought mine almost 2 years ago on Ebay and it costed 170€... so by now maybe you can get one for 100...

As I don't want to change motherboard, I like my DFI, I think i'll go for a QX9650/9770 for the unlocked multi to secure higher end results. IS it true that qx9650 C1 overclocks the same if not more than a qx9770?

Try and find a X3380, like the Q9650's big brother
9.5 multi vs 9.. I ran one at 4171mhz for over a year on air and that machine ran at 100% load 24/7

The X3380 would be awesome, but they are impossible to find and I bet they are incredibly expensive :(

X3380 E0 Stepping @ 4.1 GHz 1.488v (LLC Enabled)
http://members.iinet.net.au/~michael...led_49.5ns.jpg

QX9650 C0 Stepping @ 4.1 GHz 1.488v (LLC Enabled)
http://members.iinet.net.au/~michael...led_49.7ns.jpg

Both CPU's perform identically on my 790i and require the same voltage to reach the same clockspeed.

The newer stepping is no guarantee that you'll get higher clocks at lower voltage.

I have an E8700 E0 stepping that will do 4.2GHz on 1.29v, whereas it takes around +1.50v on both quads.

How cheap is the QX9650?

i'm looking into a couple at 200euros

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=256781

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Originally Posted by emertX

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=256781

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Thanks emertx! I just contacted the vendor. That chip is 100% compatible with my X48 motherboard right?

Yip its 775...

Yep that is one nice Xeon. Failing that, I'd definitely get a Q9650. Mine does 4GHz on X48 (One REX, also on my DFI) boards easily.

Does it have an unlocked multiplier?the X3380 i mean

The x3380 has a locked multiplier but it has the highest default quad-core multiplier (9.5) for socket 775.

this is my X3380 on water no AC just ambient love this chip

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/9071/p1050680.jpg

http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/3...cr2pl7linx.jpg


this on W7x64

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/6627/50061.jpg


this on XP32 on my UD3P and other WC that needed AC i had a thin rad

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/4206/sp11m12.jpg


cheers :toast:
Sergio

that is a killer set up. top notch work!

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that is a killer set up. top notch work!

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if that is for me thanks mate :up:

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this is my X3380 on water no AC just ambient love this chip


cheers :toast:
Sergio

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Very nice.. I think my X3380 was the best "Daily driver"I ever had.
Asus P5K Premium,2x2 gig DDR2-1066, raptor,260GTX..
Just a great all round machine..

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Very nice.. I think my X3380 was the best "Daily driver"I ever had.
Asus P5K Premium,2x2 gig DDR2-1066, raptor,260GTX..
Just a great all round machine..

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Thanks Movieman :up: i just love this setup and with my SSD as boot and raid0 is very fast

cheers :toast:
Sergio

that Xeon X3380 would be right up your ally, forget the QX9650/QX9770

Ok guys, you convinced me, I just bought the X3380 from Systemviper. Can't wait to receive it and try it out!
Thanks all for your advice :) If you have any "overclocking tips" on a DFI X48-T3RS please let me know :)
I'm trying to find a guide for my DFI's bios, here on xtremesystems but can't seem to find it :( Anyone knows of a good guide
for the so complicated DFI x48 T3RS bios?

p.s. xeons don't have any compatibility issues with other hardware or programs right??

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p.s. xeons don't have any compatibility issues with other hardware or programs right??

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Nope, exact same as your usual Core 2 Quads.

Cool! The baby is on its way :) Now gimme some times for ocing it properly :P :P

X3380 is cool stuff indeed and I'm looking forward to see your results.

Thanks oldcomer!! Now I need 2 things, maybe you can help me

1. DFI bios guide
2. I'm thinking of going for SLI hack no my x48 T3rs, are the latest drivers of nvidia available with the mod? Is it possible to mod all releases that follow?

The baby has just arrived!! I received systemviper's X3380 :) I still haven't tried it though, it sucks i need to wait a few days for the chipset heatsink to get here!!! :D EXCITEEEED

Just FYI, I'm running at QX9770 with a Corsair H50 and a P5Q Deluxe at 4.3GHz 1.45V without any problems. I used to run a QX9650 at the same speeds as well but it required more voltage.

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Originally Posted by chinobino

The x3380 has a locked multiplier but it has the highest default quad-core multiplier (9.5) for socket 775.

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Just patrolling old thread for info about the QX9650 and the Q6700 actually has the highest defaul multiplier @ 10x 266.

Mate of mine just got his hands on a G0 and is about to lap it, should be fun :yepp:

-PB

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Originally Posted by Hamilton

Just FYI, I'm running at QX9770 with a Corsair H50 and a P5Q Deluxe at 4.3GHz 1.45V without any problems. I used to run a QX9650 at the same speeds as well but it required more voltage.

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what temps do you get with that on such a voltage?

I have my x3380 @4.20ghz 1.4v quad pumped dual channel with h100i stable, temp during prime95 with case shut and ambient temp 25c... cpu max 80c

Sent from my GT-I9100

nice to see the X3380 is still going strong.

Yep :) its a nice little beast. About to get a couple of new friends to keep him company..2 gigabyte gtx660ti oc cards :)

Sent from my GT-I9100

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nice to see the X3380 is still going strong.

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Where can you even find an x3380? Ebay's empty.

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Originally Posted by Rob94hawk

Where can you even find an x3380? Ebay's empty.

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Very tough to find..they released that near the end of the run and long after the Q9650's came out..

I think hard to find...I got mine from system viper a long time ago here in this forum

Sent from my GT-I9100

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I have an E8700 E0 stepping that will do 4.2GHz on 1.29v,

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E8700's exist? I thought Intel never released them?

Tweaked a bit and managed to go higher, seems stable at 4.27ghz after 1 hour of burn :)

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/9823/71688011.jpg

Nice! Is there anyway to blow up your screenshot without it being blurry? Can't read your settings.

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Nice! Is there anyway to blow up your screenshot without it being blurry? Can't read your settings.

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right click and view image.

Doesn't it open up imageshack when you click on the image? Then if you click on the image again it should zoom in to full size 2560x1440

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Doesn't it open up imageshack when you click on the image? Then if you click on the image again it should zoom in to full size 2560x1440

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I opened the image in a new tab then CTRL+mouse wheel to zoom in. Crystal clear.