New GSkill PC4400 FC released

HI, At this moment some of you PM me see if GSkill have new product or still have TCCD
The answer is yes. Gskill also understand there are so many customers they have budget consideration.
Consequently, we are proud of announcing the very decent TCCD IC with All new GSkill heatspreader on that.
Let's look at the product info.

GSkill PC4400 FC official site:
http://www.gskill.com/f1-4400dsu2fc.htm

Memory:

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/5106/gskillfc8pg.jpg

More to follow, stay tune. :)

Certainly we will need to see it's rated speed under memtest 86+ as it totally error free to pass 5 rounds of STD
for that.

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9226/fcratedspd5di.jpg

how about some overclocking action?
DDR612 spi passed

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/784...12spi1m1an.jpg

I think G. Skill could use a better design on the Heatspreader. But yeah that looks promising.

EDIT: Whats the pricing gonna be?

For budget minded people? Prices?

Why doesnt G.Skill put that cool sphere-x thing logo on the heatspreaders?? AND BLACK PCB looks so sexy...

Heh, Gskill has started that heatspreader frenzy as well... I really do not see any benefit for it except for some (unconfirmed) marketing and brand awareness gains.

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Originally Posted by fatfreepork

For budget minded people? Prices?

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under 200

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Originally Posted by uscfan

Why doesnt G.Skill put that cool sphere-x thing logo on the heatspreaders?? AND BLACK PCB looks so sexy...

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erm... black pcb will make it look exactly like the ballistix =.="

Under $200USD for guaranteed DDR 550 at 2.5-4-4-8 seems like a pretty good deal. A quick look at the PC4400 listed at NewEgg shows all CAS2.5 2x512 kits well over $200, even GSkills own F1-3200DSU2-1GBLC and F1-3200DSU2-1GBLD.

This RAM is exellent for OC.
It even reach DDR600 stable speeds for under 200USD :D

Here a shot:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/Memory...290MHz_437.JPG

http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/Memory...300MHz_437.JPG

:D Nice show OPB - and good to know that G.Skill cares.

But what I need is 2x512@300MHz+ CAS 1,5 or 2. Till then I have to stay with my fine old BH-5:

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6590/33966sa.jpg

:toast:

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Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER

:D Nice show OPB - and good to know that G.Skill cares.

But what I need is 2x512@300MHz+ CAS 1,5 or 2. Till then I have to stay with my fine old BH-5:

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U ca try and find a REALLY good set of Redline. On topic, this looks very promising. DDR600 @ 2.5-4-4-x, for under 200?!

If it was intended to offer low price product, why has GSkill added the heatspreader? :confused:

This only makes the product more expensive.

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Originally Posted by amrgb

If it was intended to offer low price product, why has GSkill added the heatspreader? :confused:

This only makes the product more expensive.

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maybe as a freebie :p:

btw, any ideas on how much this memory is going to cost in the uk? :toast:

interesting ram, but redline pc3500 is selling for about 140 bucks right now.

How lower than 200 usd would it be?? i dont like the heatspreaders couse its supposed to be budget ram (even less the color of them)

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Originally Posted by MONKEYVILLE

maybe as a freebie :p:

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Nothing ever is for free and everything has one purpose.

If the top FF LE and LA modules don't have heatspreaders, why GSkill put them on the cheaper FC? I would like to hear some comments on this.

PS: and yes, they are damn ugly

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Originally Posted by kakaroto

This RAM is exellent for OC.
It even reach DDR600 stable speeds for under 200USD :D

Here a shot:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/Memory...290MHz_437.JPG

http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/Memory...300MHz_437.JPG

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I am just too shy to post the reset of OC result.

****secret voice..The las TCCD standing..** :p:

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Originally Posted by metro_oc.cl

interesting ram, but redline pc3500 is selling for about 140 bucks right now.

How lower than 200 usd would it be?? i dont like the heatspreaders couse its supposed to be budget ram (even less the color of them)

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I will do my best to convince boss get it all good :D

my guess is to hide tcc5.

I hope not... but I fear so. Actually all LD, LE, LF, LA, LB, LC, FF and FR modules are listed as "Samsung TCCD" in the GSkill website.

The exception is... precisely, FC, which is listed as "Samsung" only.

It should not take a Nobel prize winner to sum 1 to 1 and get the all picture. It will be interesting to remove one heatspreader just to be sure.

If this is the case, at least GSkill has created a new model for its TCC5 modules unlike others have done in the past. And also, officially GSkill has not officially stated that these modules are TCCD.

@Onepagebook
Where do you get the info about the IC's used in this module? Is it possible to remove the heatspreader to clear out this issue?

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Originally Posted by WeStSiDePLaYa

my guess is to hide tcc5.

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Even if it was Tcc5, they would be "better" than the competitors' since G.SKill offs some of their TCC5 Ic's to other memory manu. ;)

kakaroto, do you mind peeking under the heatspreaders and seeing what chips they are?

oh i dont like hs.......is it built on bp pcb?

This is TCCD, although you guyes make me curious about the chips because I have no official answer. I cannot take a look, sorry for that.
But what I can tell you is that it has similar TCCD behaviour, like OC potential and vdimm.

Every GSKILL Xtreme series are build on Brainpower 808.

WHEN WHEN WHEN! I think i may have found my ram :D

:banana: Gskill

I can deduce from your words that it can be TCC5, since it behaves like TCCD and other factors like the IC type in the GSkill website and price (not to mention the introduction of the heatspreader) points toward TCC5.

I think it would be great to have this settled since the beginning to avoid people thinking that this is TCCD to feel cheated unnecessarily.

I have ask official information at gskill.

To avoid non correct information here is the truth:

This sample I own is build with Samsung TCC5 chips. The market items will be Samsung TCCD and later when TCCD is out TCC5. GSKILL will official anounce the switch to TCC5.

I take my hat off to GSkill.

Kakaroto, do you know what will happen to the other TCCD products in the GSkill line?

My guess is that when TCCD is over, these products will be discontinued (and other created), right?

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Originally Posted by amrgb

I take my hat off to GSkill.

Kakaroto, do you know what will happen to the other TCCD products in the GSkill line?

My guess is that when TCCD is over, these products will be discontinued (and other created), right?

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Well, i don't know how many TCCD there is left. This is same for OCZ and other brands.
Maybe there will be Handpicked TCC5 or some limited TCCD.
I haven't see TCC5 doing DDR600 2.5-3-3-6 1T. only with Trcd at 4.
But good TCC5 can match TCCD.

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Originally Posted by kakaroto

The market items will be Samsung TCCD and later when TCCD is out TCC5. GSKILL will official anounce the switch to TCC5.

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Does this mean we will not see anymore DDR600 @ 2.5-3-3? :( :( You guys will announce a switch to TCC5 if/when it happens right? If I spent $350 on a set of FF and get TCC5 I would be livid.

Currently FF has no heatspreader and thus you can see the used IC's. If suddenly it starts shipping with heatspreaders... well, in that case you must think twice.

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Originally Posted by amrgb

Currently FF has no heatspreader and thus you can see the used IC's. If suddenly it starts shipping with heatspreaders... well, in that case you must think twice.

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Is "TCC5" that hard on the eyes that it has to be covered? Heh heh. As long as GSkill gives a way to tell what we are getting when ordering cool. Add a new rev # or something, please.

Don't worry about G.Skill going to TCC5 for all their modules quite yet. They're going to continue using TCCD on their current models (i.e. LE, LA, FF) for at least a little while...and from what I've seen, these things are FAST (and I mean REAL FAST): :cool:
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/1193/new3sa.jpg

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Originally Posted by kakaroto

The market items will be Samsung TCCD and later when TCCD is out TCC5. GSKILL will official anounce the switch to TCC5.

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If GSkill keeps it's word on this that would be great. It will speek volums about what Gskill thinks of their customers :)

WHEN WILL I BE ABLE TO PURCHASE THIS AT NEWEGG!!

Thanks :D

How much is it gonna be and when can i get it? :toast:

I will be purchasing new ram VERY soon and would love to have this, can u hook me up OPB

1GB FC will be available at digi4me and newegg.com this week.

Just got mine today. I seem to be having some strange stability problems. between 300 and 309 i can't do a 1mb super PI but 310Mhz worked. Not had this long so still testing....

I think it's down to the memory controller but not sure.

http://www.vanessagonzaga.co.uk/310.jpg

Lol as soon as I read the first post I said "tcc5" lol amrgb you are sharp, we must be these days, some companies try funny things, my hat also goes off to g.skill for planning to tell when tcc5 is substituted.

"kakaroto
I haven't see TCC5 doing DDR600 2.5-3-3-6 1T. only with Trcd at 4."

I have noticed this also.

Will someone who is well respected and with some credibility in the memory
segement of overclocking step forward and say it.

"tcc5 is not as good as tccd" we all need to hear it from one of yous.

Lol 4rory I'm sharp but you are no less than me :p:

The all story that TCC5 is the same as TCCD is not exactly false but not properly true. There are many possible points of view when asserting that X>Y. It's not a black or white answer, it's more like a gray one. That's why no manufacturer ever will admit that TCC5 is worse. Manufacturers just push the grey way too much to black.

But I'm satisfied with kakaroto's words. He said it all. However, the ones who believe that TCC5 is like TCCD (because they have TCC5 or plan to get TCC5 at cheaper prices than TCCD) will continue to think just like that.

People get mad at me because they think im calling tcc5 crap, dudes its pretty good stuff but it aint tccd, I think tccd has much better odds when it comes to high clocks especailly at low timings.

The problem is that some peoples have a "switch-type mind" (with no offenses to anyone). If one thing is not the best, then it's the worst.

I have a litte comparision about TCC5 and TCCD with max stable speeds.

PC4400 1GB LE with Samsung TCCD 431:

DDR550 2.5-3-3-7 1T @2,65v
DDR560 2.5-3-3-7 1T @2.7v
DDR600 2.5-3-3-7 1T @2.9v [memtest 86++ pass]
DDR620 2.5-4-3-7 1T @2.8v [some memtest passes]

PC4400 1GB FC with Samsung TCC5 5xx:

DDR550 2.5-4-4-8 1T @2.6v
DDR550 2.5-3-3-7 1T @2.7v
DDR560 2.5-3-3-7 1T @2.7v
DDR600 2.5-3-3-7 1T @2.7~3.0v [not stable]
DDR600 2.5-4-3-7 1T @2.77v
DDR620 2.5-4-3-7 1T @3.0v

It is still hard to say, but TCC5 love high HTT but for now only the TRCD 4 if you go beyond DDR600. Under DDR600 TCC5 is to my opinion same as TCCD.
One thing is for sure: TCC5 is reacting better on voltages then TCCD.

Nice comparison kakaroto :) Have you found that newer TCCD is acting more like TCC5 or like older (late 04) TCCD?

Here's an update on mine.

2.7v and Super PI 32M stable, though I didn't get a screenie of this. I'm not totally sure but it seems mine doesn't like much voltage.

http://www.vanessagonzaga.co.uk/300stable.jpg

Lol where are you guys getting this stuff, its not even for sale at newegg or digiwhatever yet is it?

http://www.hwzone.co.il/ocdb/index.p...project_id=569

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Originally Posted by Eldonko

Lol where are you guys getting this stuff, its not even for sale at newegg or digiwhatever yet is it?

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qft

what is QTF and I need to get one of this or the 1GBFR, I'm returning my Plats tomorrow, and I want to order my GSkills, I dont like Digi4Me it is kinda shady, I want to order the memory now!

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Originally Posted by G.Skill Home page

*** Announcement ***

- G.Skill F1-4400DSU2-1GBFC with which memory chipset ? -


4 Jul 2005, Taipei
Since G.Skill International Enterprise launched the F1-4400DSU2-1GBFC, many users ask us which memory chipset we used for the module through many medias.

Here, we would like to clarify this point. As G.Skill products are gurantee for the specification not memory chipset, we would use Samsung TCCD or TCC5 in FC seriesdues to the source supply issue.

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I'm confused here... Reps care to explain?

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Originally Posted by Badong

I'm confused here... Reps care to explain?

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Sounds like someother memory peddelers stance :)
..We can put cow pucky in place of IC's as long as it performs to speck customers can kiss our ass :D.. :fact:

Here is the official announcement on the website.

*** Announcement ***

- G.Skill F1-4400DSU2-1GBFC with which memory chipset ? -


4 Jul 2005, Taipei
Since G.Skill International Enterprise launched the F1-4400DSU2-1GBFC, many users ask us which memory chipset we used for the module through many medias.

Here, we would like to clarify this point. As G.Skill products are gurantee for the specification not memory chipset, we would use Samsung TCCD or TCC5 in FC seriesdues to the source supply issue.

can anyone post a picture of the memory timmings of a Ultra D please?

here are some optimized timings for FC.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/Memory...290MHz_437.JPG

http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/Memory...300MHz_437.JPG

Noob>> would it be ok to overclock the memory from 200 to 290 with these settings? would it harm them? Even without increasing the voltage?

i just got a kit of these to review :)

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Originally Posted by kakaroto

here are some optimized timings for FC.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/Memory...290MHz_437.JPG

http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/Memory...300MHz_437.JPG

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Thanks kakaroto,nice job (as usual)