The Fermi Thread - Part 3

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Originally Posted by Serpentarius

man, i've just finished reading some reviews. they are pretty depressing ... they mentioned of the term "fastest" when compared with 5870 ... as if 5970 doesnt exist
so, is it the final verdict? any o/c results?

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There were plenty of cards that had an overclock section, overall they had a pretty good gain from the overclocks. So the card/architecture has some good potential for revisions and such with a die shrink.

Y READY (bought 5870 6 month ago);)

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Originally Posted by Sadasius

Whining about it does not make it better.

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Sitting there and defending a total troll doesn't give you any extra e-peen points either :)

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Originally Posted by Svnth

Who exactly is paying you to write this stuff? Is there any particular reason you're choosing to pollute the thread with consecutive posts like this? You're not even in any sort of discussion... you must just like seeing your name flash up on your LCD?

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Originally Posted by 96redformula

There were plenty of cards that had an overclock section, overall they had a pretty good gain from the overclocks. So the card/architecture has some good potential for revisions and such with a die shrink.

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I believe this card has great potential. but with the delays and hype I assumed they worked it it out. I see now it needs some more work.:yepp:

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Originally Posted by Sadasius

Whining about it does not make it better.

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Now that would be sig worthy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:up:

Waaaay too much whining going on about things that are what they are, take it or leave it.

If it doesn't meet your standards or is not to your liking you can buy ATI or wait for Intels unicorn.

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Originally Posted by highoctane

Now that would be sig worthy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:up:

Waaaay too much whining going on about things that are what they are, take it or leave it.

If it doesn't meet your standards or is not to your liking you can buy ATI or wait for Intels unicorn.

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He's not talking about Fermi.. he's commenting on my questioning purefun's posting behavior.

And I'll quickly point out that he's wrong.. if you point something out (aka "whine" by his definitions) ideally moderators would make it better.

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Originally Posted by purefun65

lokk im not trying to annoy anyone. im very surprised at the power it consumes per per perfomance return.

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GTX 480 has the best performance per watt in folding and DX11 Unigine. You see what you want.

The performance per watt in "legacy apps" is lower than 5870 for the same reason it is higher in newer apps. Fermi has all that excess hardware to make the new apps run faster. Pick your poison. Better old or better new. Nothing wrong with either depending on what you do.

HWG make very god review. Please use language tool. :)
http://www.hwgurus.com/testovi/grafike-karte/152.html

Orderet 2xGTX480 ;)

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Originally Posted by Svnth

He's not talking about Fermi.. he's commenting on my questioning purefun's posting behavior.

And I'll quickly point out that he's wrong.. if you point something out (aka "whine" by his definitions) ideally moderators would make it better.

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Don't misunderstand I'm not taking sides, I was simply implying that "all" the whining and complaining over and over from anybody isn't productive in any way, shape or form.

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Originally Posted by E30M3

+:up:
Remember it next time he speaks about nVidia

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Denial is strong here. But the truth is, he absolutely nailed it.

my personal opinion!!! as it stands now. this is not a good card. With a die shrink and a rework of the arch it can be a great card. I would not personibly buy it it in its current form. in yhe future possibly yes, okay peace out

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Originally Posted by purefun65

my personal opinion!!! as it stands now. this is not a good card. With a die shrink and a rework of the arch it can be a great card. I would not personibly buy it it in its current form. in yhe future possibly yes, okay peace out

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by that time there will be a HD 6870 :shrug:

Most people dont even take into consideration that 5970 was introduced to compete with high-end fermi. It is just remarkable that the 5870 has almost near similar performance,and being compared to fermi is a great testament to what Ati accomplished. Like it or not, Ati b!tch slapped fermi like a pimp and his ho.

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Originally Posted by bamtan2

GTX 480 has the best performance per watt in folding and DX11 Unigine.

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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...0,2585-15.html

No, no it doesn't... in fact the cards fall dead last compared to the 5970, 5870 and 5850 in perf/watt in Unigine

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Originally Posted by To(V)bo Co(V)bo

Most people dont even take into consideration that 5970 was introduced to compete with high-end fermi. It is just remarkable that the 5870 has almost near similar performance,and being compared to fermi is a great testament to what Ati accomplished. Like it or not, Ati b!tch slapped fermi like a pimp and his ho.

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This is a new arch and we need to give them time to refine it. ati did do a great job.:)

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Originally Posted by To(V)bo Co(V)bo

Most people dont even take into consideration that 5970 was introduced to compete with high-end fermi.

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Thats because most people probably know you generally don't directly compare multigpu cards with single gpu cards.

Might as well consider 2p & 4p rigs directly compared with 1p rigs.

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Originally Posted by highoctane

Thats because most people probably know you generally don't directly compare multigpu cards with single gpu cards.

Might as well consider 2p & 4p rigs directly compared with 1p rigs.

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you took what he was saying out of context he did mention 5870 in that statement.

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Originally Posted by purefun65

you took what he was saying out of context he did mention 5870 in that statement.

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What does his "mention" of 5870 do to change the context of my quote....

Did they release the 4870x2 to compete with the 285? Why would anybody think they released the 5970 an x2 to compete with a single gpu fermi.

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Originally Posted by jaredpace

[IMG]http://img.techpowerup.org/100326/Capture598.jpg

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needs a crackpipe added in :ROTF:

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Originally Posted by highoctane

What does his "mention" of 5870 do to change the context of my quote....

Did they release the 4870x2 to compete with the 285? Why would anybody think they released the 5970 an x2 to compete with a single gpu fermi.

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given your logic the 5970 came first so there for it wasnt released to compete against fermi.:)

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Originally Posted by zerazax

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...0,2585-15.html

No, no it doesn't... in fact the cards fall dead last compared to the 5970, 5870 and 5850 in perf/watt in Unigine

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Dead last = 10% worse?

5870 is dead last compared to GTX480.
5850 is dead last compared to GTX470.

10% worse is not dead last, it's a close finish. :up:

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Originally Posted by highoctane

Thats because most people probably know you generally don't directly compare multigpu cards with single gpu cards.

Might as well consider 2p & 4p rigs directly compared with 1p rigs.

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This time there is no reason to avoid the comparison, because the temperatures and power consumption are almost the same.

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Originally Posted by purefun65

given your logic the 5970 came first so there for it wasnt released to compete against fermi.:)

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My logic is you compare hardware in the proper class, it should be quite obvious that higher cost and performance is generally associated with multigpu configurations.

I guess by your logic you must believe that a $500 card competes with a $700 card.

You don't compare a 480 and a 5970 because the 5970 costs $200 more. It's also just as available as Fermi.... good luck finding one off newegg. And dual cards are simply a pain, it takes more work to get that FPS because of the lack of multi-GPU support in new games.