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nVidia drivers v260.89 beta out.
Man, this is getting boring!!
djs, you got me curious with the X68 issue. Can't you tell how you know? I mean, if it's just that roadmap that only mentions P67, H67 and H61, those are only the first batch.
Was it cancelled then? Because I saw a roamap mentioning it, but it was so accurate that it was supposed to be out in Q2/2010, go figure. Still, ICH11 was paired with it and no PCIe 3.0 support. The same roadmap showed P65/H65/Q65 which we know will not be the naming scheme.
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x68
I have not seen any info that leads me to believe that you will see a x68, unless there is port of the Sandy Bridge server chipset. That would be a year away, I think. Found the RAID issue with Intel. They need to verify the extent of problem and fix the issue. Don't think I would update to 5456.
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djs
Yes, if there is a X68 (and I believe there is), it's well under wraps. It should be out in a year, at least, I don't expect it sooner. Socket 1155 will come first in Q1 2011, by the end of the year the server and desktop counterpart of socket 2001 (socket G?) that should be X68. Well, your guess is as good as mine.
Good work with the RAID issue, maybe DX58SO page being unavailable right now has something to do with it?!
Page 97 now, almost 100 pages long thread, wow!!
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working a bit on this oc
3.8 ghz (181x21)
IOH 1.1
Uncore v 1.2
cpu v 1.2625
ram 1.5v
ram multi 8
uncore multi 13
max temp prime 95 load 75c
I've done so much reading my head is swimming....I can't remember what the IOH is....SB?
EDIT
nevermind I figured it out
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nVidia 260.89 finally got WHQL'ed, for those who care. About time too! I'll try the new installer.
Heard of the "new" GTX580 to counter the 6970 Cayman, or even Antilles 6990 (that's me already going over the top)?
Well, some say it's a new GF110 GPU with 512 CUDA cores, 128 TMUs and 512 bit GDDR5 interface, others that it's the same GF100 (or GF100b as they call it) with all 512 cores enabled. Same TDP as the GTX480 it seems.
They want to spoil the AMD HD6000 launch. ATI is definatelly gone, rest in peace. It will be missed.
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I'm kinda waiting for SP1 to be final to go Win 7 x64, although I really don't like the UI, Vista looks much better. My question is, to those of you on 7, and since Intel (or IDT) haven't released drivers for it, how is audio on BT working for you? Using the MS drivers, if there are any? How's sound wit it?
I believe only the audio is missing proper 7 support now, right?
Anyone tried the nVidia 260.98 yet? Haven't had the time to install. nVidia will be releasing the GTX475 soon it seems, ether GT104 fully unlocked or (call it) GT114. Man, what a war going on...
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Seems Win 7 SP1 went RC today, nothing relly new it seems, most was already available via Windows Update. For Server 2008 (same package) there are new features though.
There's also an MS update for sniffing Win 7 illegal copies (WGA) much like Vista's some time back.
Also, nVidia released 260.99 WHQL, not even a week after 260.89, wtf?! Some improvements.
Still, nothing new on Intel.
After SP1 I'm going 7 but we're still lacking audio drivers. How have you guys been doing? Native win 7 drivers or new sound card? Guess my old Audigy could be usefull after all, or maybe a new X-Fi HD, but I swore never to get Creative cards again, drivers suck big time. And now for Vista and 7 that awful Alchemy wrapper!! Guess not.
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MS roadmap leaked, Windows 8 (might not be the final name) will be out in 2012. Same for server OS.
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Manel
I cannot speak to the audio situation with W7, I just use native windows drivers and quite rarely use the sound on my system anyway.
as for the rest of the drivers, everything seems to work fine...you have to remember that windows 7 and vista are more similar than they are different, the leap was from xp to vista. to me, i consider w7 to be what microsoft wanted to release when vista dropped, but just coulndt get everything ready in time and also lacked a lot of feedback to tweak the system properly before launch.
just compare the number of updates for vista vs w7 as well as how easily almost every program designed for vista seamlessly installs on w7 (there are a select few exceptions, but for the most part everything plays together nicely), its almost as if vista should be named w7 alpha.
sean
PS. W7 is a ton faster than vista.
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Hi Sean
I was just asking regarding the sound mostly out of curiousity really, just to know what the drivers were like. I guess a control panel for it is on-existent, right? Guess you loose Dolby as well. But, like you, I hardly use it. Still, would be nice to have all the features, although the GUI is still horrible.
Yes, 7 is what Vista was supposed to be, still some software will not run out of the box. My company had to redo all software for 7 so I guess there are some differences.
For that matter, 7 is not v7.0 but still v6.1 which says it all.
I have no problems with Vista, much on the contrary. I love the UI, and I hate 7's with that awful task bar and over shiny start button whe you hover over it. Still you can tweak the UI to resemble Vista's but never gets the same. That's the reason I haven't gone 7 yet but as soon as SP1 goes RTM I guess I will.
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It really seems that UEFI will take off net year, finally!
Asus has 1155 boards with UEFI already. I don't really want to go back to Asus, hope Intel will follow suit.
Looks a lot better than the good old BIOS, about time we enter the new era. Right now we have very powerful machines that boot like old 286 (argh!) dinossaurs...
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My neighbour just bought a DX58SO, he asked me to come over and build it for him. He got the newest version with the sata's facing the back of the board. He asked if the little fan should have the label facing out, I looked at it and saw the arrow indicating air flow direction and told him no it will not show with the fan blowing on the IOH.
Got home the next day, sat down at my rig and looked in the window and ......saw the label on my fan. I laughed, reached in and removed the fan and sure enough I had it blowing away from the chipset, not on it. So I flipped it around. The next day I was fooling around with my overclock, referred back to some screenshots I had and noticed the temp on my IOH had gone up! As it was only a few degrees I haven't bothered to put it back the other way, when I do I will report back if indeed the temps go back down.
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Hi rogue
In fact, the fan should be sucking hot air out of the IOH, not blowing on it. I guess the sticker should be facing outwards.
Too bad our BoneTrails don't come with the fan, I've been trying to get one but can't find a 40mm fan anywhere.
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The intel guide shows blowing on the heatsink. I actually never looked at it myself till tonight because I thought maybe my neighbour (who was looking at it) read it wrong. But indeed it shows blowing on the IOH. I'm gonna have to reach in there and flip it back around and see if the temps drop.
One of the complaints I've read about the smackover is that fan, I guess there must be some that have a whine to them, I have not noticed it at all with mine or the neighbours but there are sites out there with 40mm fans.
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rogue
Haven't read the SmackOver's manual, will dl it now and have a look, but sounds strange to have the fan blowing inwards, it's supposed to suck hot air out of the IOH, although you could have it suck air in to go through the fins and out the sides. But that seems more prone to heat ups.
There are 40mm fans out there, not nearby though, but they are either too noisy or with colorful lights, meh!!
nVidia has it finally disclosed on their site, the all mighty 580, and with v262.99 drivers, WHQL'ed by the way. They had been working hard on it it seems. The new king of the hill. I just hate the 384b wide mem bus and the 1.5G mem, but still... mem controller seems much better, finally they can achieve GDDR5 speeds that are closer to the limit.
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Anyone knows where we can find and download the Intel Extreme Tuning Utility (XTU)? And before you all jump at me saying it's a service rather than a tool, that's not entirelly correct. I know IDCC uses it but Intel also has it with a different interface (UI) for v2. It looks very cool and simple, I also like the way IDCC looks but this one version is a lot more complete. Asus provides it already for their mobos, why hasn't Intel (who developed it) released their own version for their mobos (ours)? At least I can't find it!
The UI is (somewhat) customizable, and it's available to OEMs that provide the necessary hooks on their BIOSes.
Well, maybe they'll eventually let us have it too.
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Got it from Asus' site, seems Dell and some others will have it too.
Funny thing, Intel mentions it, even in their Extreme Gaming page, but no links and there's no info on it anywhere on their site, or anywhere else for that matter.
I guess they couldn't keep up with it, and maybe just ditched it. Still Asus has it available for dl and it looks sweet (in that version, cause I've seen it with another UI that looks like the older Intel apps and meh!!).
Intel is too quite for my liking, something's fishy.
Maybe it's just the preping of Sandy Bridge and newer BIOSes for the 6 series boards, takes up all the time. I still have a wish for X68...
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I too looked for XTU and gave up. DX58SO2 is coming soon, hope a bios comes soon too.
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Yeah, I know about DX58SO2, but do you have any details on it? What will change or what's new about it?
Maybe they'll finally use 6 mem slots - don't believe, a major design overhaul would be in order. Maybe they ditch the PCIe x4 physical for a full x16, even though it will remain x4 electrically.
It would make it almost perfect!!
Are you using the 40mm fan that came with your board? How does it look like? Does it make a difference, in temperatures, having it installed or not? Is it noisy?
Until you mentioned it I didn't even notice that there was a change in the SATA connectors (for 90º ones) in the SmackOver. Cool! They should have done it in the BoneTrail too.
As far as I can tell only the Quick Reference Guide and the Product Guide show it, but not the Tech Product Spec.
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Ya the new board is a complete over haul, I found this...
Compared to the first generation of a new Board DX58SO, in many respects has been enhanced: changed to all-solid capacitor; adding heat pipe cooling systems, power supply and the north part of the memory slots from four to six, with support for two groups of dual-channel DDR3 memory expansion slot to reduce a PCI-E increase a x4 PCI-E x16, and adjust the layout, streamlined; the on-board Ethernet card to two, the back also has two RJ; on-board power on and restart shortcut button; through a third-party controller adds two SATA 6Gbps and two USB 3.0 interface.
I found pictures before but Im not sure where now, but it looked cool. Yes I'm using the fan, it has a blue led, not sure about temps not using it but I got better temps blowing away from IOH rather than blowing on. No i dont find it noisey at all, but there have been comments from others about it. Guess I got lucky and got a good one?
Found the link with pictures
http://www.waybeta.com/news/38336/sa...el-board-news/
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Thanx rogue, it looks really sweet. All those hings I mentioned seem to have been adressed, and more. I could do without the heatpipes, but hey! Onboard LED poster, cool.
They seem to have placed the 8pin power connector in the right place now,thank you Intel, that was the worst place ever originally.
The full SS capacitors is a good welcome, although sometimes overhiped, still no spilling caps anymore. And it looks much better for that mater! Even the old chokes seem to be gone now. Great design overhaul Intel.
I'd say it's the best Intel board to date. If I wasn't looking forward for the X68 his would be my next board for sure.
Dual ethernet, onboard power and reset push buttons, don't like the Clear CMOS on the outside though - don't get me wrong, it's handy but with a lamp on it?!
3 full x16 PCIe slots, 6 mem slots, Intel went all the way on this one.
SAT 6G and USB 3 with external controllers is meh for me, that's why I'll wait for the X68, I much prefer Intel's inegrated implementation to 3rd party's controllers.
I guess this one will also use the Realtek audio codec.
Rogue, thanks for the find. Great pics.
On a side note, Intel's page has a new dl for us (sigh), a pdf file saying that MS Server OSes will not be supported. Thanks for the info Intel.
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I'd only change a couple things though.
Power supply connectors (24pin and 8pin) shoul be black, not white, to go with the theme.
Front panel headers are still located too far in the bottom of the board, my 900 case does not have long enough cables to reach there - rogue, is your cable longer? I spoke with the guys at Antec at the time regarding this issueand they said they'd release the 900 with longe cables from then on.
The big heatsink is a little too flashy for me, are we going the Taiwan way here Intel? I prefer the simpler one in the old board, but good nonetheless.
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Anyone knows how the PCIe slots will behave? Is there like x16 x8 x8 available? Or only x16 x16 x4.
This with a 990X and sole good ol' Dominators 12G would be awesome!!
Still Socket 2011 sould be out in a year or so.
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I might just have changed my mind regarding DX58SO2. I had been too lazy to google or it but now it seems it has x16 x16 x8 electrical PCIe slots, DDR3 2400 (what?!) 24G 6 slots, dual Giga ethernet, 12 USB 30 ports, 10 SATA 6G ports - these seem to be native, since Intel does not refer an exsternal controller for both USB and SATA. Maybe we have a new IOH!! Hard to believe though, usually not all ports are full speed in a new chipset, and the required bandwidth would be huge, didn't calculate though.
Here's a link: http://www.sys-builder.com/wp-conten...X58SO2Spec.jpg
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