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06-12-2008, 02:00 PM
perkam

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Originally Posted by ceevee

So hard to decide. Should I get dual 4870s in crossfire on my X48(and take a risk on crossfire compatibility and support)? Or just get the GTX280??

arrghhh...:shrug:

Both are awesome cards. Wait to see core OCs for both, seeing as the 4870 with 3600Mhz GDDR5 has already won the memory clock test.

Perkam
06-12-2008, 02:02 PM
Helmore

Quote:

Originally Posted by ceevee

So hard to decide. Should I get dual 4870s in crossfire on my X48(and take a risk on crossfire compatibility and support)? Or just get the GTX280??

arrghhh...:shrug:

You have about a month to decide, as the dust will have settled by then, cards will be in full availability and stable price by then.
06-12-2008, 02:02 PM
LowRun

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Originally Posted by jimmyz

Card has arrived. Info will be in a thread tonight, So far I can say It is an excellent performer. I will be busy benching and posting results tonight. Stay tuned to XS for more information.

A little teaser 15k in 06 is easy (4600mhz yorkie). much more info coming.

Bloody crap! Just the post i shouldn't have read, i could i go to sleep now :mad:

Hurry up mate :D :up:
06-12-2008, 02:03 PM
Xello

So you can crossfire a 2900 with a 3870? I found this chart:

http://game.amd.com/us-en/content/im...hart_Dec07.jpg

I'm pretty tired and maybe i'm misunderstanding it, but it seems to indicate you can't :confused:
06-12-2008, 02:04 PM
perkam

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xello

So you can crossfire a 2900 with a 3870? I found this chart:

http://game.amd.com/us-en/content/im...hart_Dec07.jpg

I'm pretty tired and maybe i'm misunderstanding it, but it seems to indicate you can't :confused:

You can.

@Lowrun: It's 6:04 EST. "Tonight" will come in 4 hours. Get some rest.

Perkam
06-12-2008, 02:07 PM
eleeter

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill_d

full specs end the great SP debate:D

yes! :shocked:
06-12-2008, 02:31 PM
LowRun

Quote:

Originally Posted by perkam

@Lowrun: It's 6:04 EST. "Tonight" will come in 4 hours. Get some rest.

Perkam

Yup, i'm gonna do that cos' it'll be 4am here then. Enjoy the show guys :D
06-12-2008, 02:32 PM
nr2134

Quote:

Originally Posted by ceevee

So hard to decide. Should I get dual 4870s in crossfire on my X48(and take a risk on crossfire compatibility and support)? Or just get the GTX280??

arrghhh...:shrug:

I ran xfire in the early days of the x1900 and there was a bug here and there, but to be honest with you.....it was not as bad as some people claim. If ATI improved it which I hope they did, it will be a nice setup.

I also run on a X48 and Im waiting for results. I just cant seem to make myself run a Nvidia chipped mobo again. Good for benching, but lackluster for daily usage.
06-12-2008, 02:37 PM
Luka_Aveiro

@ least @ 3dmark nothing honestly surprising @ stock (equivalent to my 8800GT), maybe with 750mhz core we should see what the HD4850 can do...
06-12-2008, 02:45 PM
natty

hopefully jimmyz won't pull an OBR on us
06-12-2008, 02:48 PM
y2kbos

Quote:

Originally Posted by natty

hopefully jimmyz won't pull an OBR on us

Nah Jimmyz is for real, he will post for sure..
06-12-2008, 02:50 PM
jimmyz

Quote:

Originally Posted by natty

hopefully jimmyz won't pull an OBR on us

Nope I'm here:
forum is giving me problems.

[IMG]http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/2489/stickeruo3.jpg[/IMG]

I am going to get a full thread going once I get some benching done. I had a funeral today and had been swamped. got it installed and everything is good so far, let me get some more nubers and i'll post up.:up:

Thanks to FXvideocards.com they were great getting me this card so early. they will be selling them the 21st:up: http://fxvideocards.com/

more soon.. stay up. low run :up::rofl:
06-12-2008, 02:57 PM
Milos-stancene

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmyz

Nope I'm here:
forum is giving me problems.

[IMG]http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/2489/stickeruo3.jpg[/IMG]

I am going to get a full thread going once I get some benching done. I had a funeral today and had been swamped. got it installed and everything is good so far, let me get some more nubers and i'll post up.:up:

Thanks to FXvideocards.com they were great getting me this card so early. they will be selling them the 21st:up: http://fxvideocards.com/

more soon.. stay up. low run :up::rofl:

SAME OLD SONG :welcome:
06-12-2008, 03:07 PM
003

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Originally Posted by zerazax

Looks like PowerColor jumped the gun and sold the 4850 in Hong Kong:

http://my.ocworkbench.com/bbs/showthread.php?p=432522

15194 w/ QX9650 at 4GHz in 3dMark06 default

Not bad methinks

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmyz

Card has arrived. Info will be in a thread tonight, So far I can say It is an excellent performer. I will be busy benching and posting results tonight. Stay tuned to XS for more information.

A little teaser 15k in 06 is easy (4600mhz yorkie). much more info coming.

Ummm.... hey, am I the only one to notice that these numbers kind of suck, really badly? So, are you guys saying that a yorkfield @ 4.0-4.6GHz (an insane overclock unless you have unlocked multi) with a 4850 is only scoring ~15k in 3dmark06? That really, really sucks.

With my 2900Pro overclocked to 874/1000 and my Q9450 at 3.6GHz, I score 14.5k in 3dmark06. So if those results are real, then yes, that really sucks.
06-12-2008, 03:07 PM
perkam

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milos-stancene

SAME OLD SONG :welcome:

Far too early to make such comments. Please respect the member trying to give us an early look at some good 4850 benchies.

Perkam
06-12-2008, 03:13 PM
LordEC911

Quote:

Originally Posted by 003

Ummm.... hey, am I the only one to notice that these numbers kind of suck, really badly? So, are you guys saying that a yorkfield @ 4.0-4.6GHz (an insane overclock unless you have unlocked multi) with a 4850 is only scoring ~15k in 3dmark06? That really, really sucks.

With my 2900Pro overclocked to 874/1000 and my Q9450 at 3.6GHz, I score 14.5k in 3dmark06. So if those results are real, then yes, that really sucks.

A stock/slightly OC'ed card... yeah those results suck... :rolleyes:
06-12-2008, 03:13 PM
mascaras

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milos-stancene

SAME OLD SONG :welcome:

go to sleep :slapass:

regards
06-12-2008, 03:14 PM
Papu

Quote:

Originally Posted by 003

Ummm.... hey, am I the only one to notice that these numbers kind of suck, really badly? So, are you guys saying that a yorkfield @ 4.0-4.6GHz (an insane overclock unless you have unlocked multi) with a 4850 is only scoring ~15k in 3dmark06? That really, really sucks.

With my 2900Pro overclocked to 874/1000 and my Q9450 at 3.6GHz, I score 14.5k in 3dmark06. So if those results are real, then yes, that really sucks.

erm a 2900 pro is like a 2900xt , which currently holds to top 3dmark06 record.
the 2900xt is more like a 3870 not a 3850.+ the 4850 is ment to have fixed the aa issues of the 2900 and 3800's

we'll see how it games :D
3dmark 06 isn't everything <@:-D
06-12-2008, 03:15 PM
003

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Originally Posted by LordEC911

A stock/slightly OC'ed card... yeah those results suck... :rolleyes:

The overclock should be irrelevant. 06 is heavily CPU limited, and I have a 3.6GHz yorkfield, and they have a 4ghz yorkfield. That would be a pretty big balance tipper.

If the 4850 really has 800 SPs and 32 TMUs, then these results are extremely disappointing. Unless it basically doubles it's performance in crossfire, it's going to blow.
06-12-2008, 03:17 PM
Papu

Quote:

Originally Posted by 003

The overclock should be irrelevant. 06 is heavily CPU limited, and I have a 3.6GHz yorkfield, and they have a 4ghz yorkfield. That would be a pretty big balance tipper.

If the 4850 really has 800 SPs and 32 TMUs, then these results are extremely disappointing. Unless it basically doubles it's performance in crossfire, it's going to blow.

i believe you missed the part where the first retail price for the 2900 was something like 350 euros? the 4850 is supposed to be around 140 :P
06-12-2008, 03:17 PM
jimmyz

I can't blame people for doubting, but ask yourselves why until today I had no posts in this thread even though I am always a fan of the midrange ati cards. I will get more benches done soon, what speeds do you guys want for comparisions?

besides guy I'm naming sources, i got this card without an NDA. I am just a small town boy from Indiana, Out to bench anything I can get my hands on, the newer and rarer the better. gotta get back to testing. how about something like 4ghz?

Oh and this card clocks like crazy...lol I talked to W1zzard he confirmed it isn't reading right and the shader and other info is courtesy of a database that he will update to the real figures very soon hopefully.

teaser:
[IMG]http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6...4464mhzgs8.jpg[/IMG]

Thanks again http://fxvideocards.com/
06-12-2008, 03:18 PM
STaRGaZeR

Yeah man please stop the 3DMark crap just run some games :p:
06-12-2008, 03:19 PM
jimmyz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Papu

i believe you missed the part where the first retail price for the 2900 was something like 350 euros? the 4850 is supposed to be around 140 :P

Actually it will be around 200 or more......It looks like. My guess 220 USD.:up:
06-12-2008, 03:19 PM
mascaras

Quote:

Originally Posted by 003

Ummm.... hey, am I the only one to notice that these numbers kind of suck, really badly? So, are you guys saying that a yorkfield @ 4.0-4.6GHz (an insane overclock unless you have unlocked multi) with a 4850 is only scoring ~15k in 3dmark06? That really, really sucks.

With my 2900Pro overclocked to 874/1000 and my Q9450 at 3.6GHz, I score 14.5k in 3dmark06. So if those results are real, then yes, that really sucks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 003

The overclock should be irrelevant. 06 is heavily CPU limited, and I have a 3.6GHz yorkfield, and they have a 4ghz yorkfield. That would be a pretty big balance tipper.

If the 4850 really has 800 SPs and 32 TMUs, then these results are extremely disappointing. Unless it basically doubles it's performance in crossfire, it's going to blow.

you know how much a 9800GTX got in 2k6 ???

9800GTX with Quad @4Ghz = ~15K

so this means hd2900 is good as 9800GTX ??? not even close

3dmark 2006 means nothing !

regards
06-12-2008, 03:20 PM
Papu

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmyz

Actually it will be around 200 or more......It looks like. My guess 220 USD.:up:

220 dollars is still 140 euros :D
...but im sure with 1:1 tech conversion it will be about 200 euros at launch :(

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