Have you got EIST enabled ????, @ idle it will downclock your CPU to save power/run cooler etc :)Quote:
Originally Posted by purplehaze
Hope you get that chip up there Jammer, skill is certainly not the part that is lacking
Have you got EIST enabled ????, @ idle it will downclock your CPU to save power/run cooler etc :)Quote:
Originally Posted by purplehaze
Hope you get that chip up there Jammer, skill is certainly not the part that is lacking
hey guys.
i've read a good amount of this thread, but have yet to do any posting. i'm looking to see if i can get some advice.
i currently have a rev 505 bad axe 2 board w/ the 2333 bios. i'm looking for insight on overclocking an x6800 ES.
for cooling, i use the swiftech apex watercooling system (CPU and northbridge cooled), so heat hasn't been an issue in screwing around with different frequencies. for ram, i use 2GB (2x1GB) corsair xms2 ddr2-800 memory.
for one, is it possible to hit 4GHz? i haven't heard many cases of it, but i'm shooting for the stars. a stable 3.8 would be pretty nice. i've been able to boot up and work in windows at 3.8, but i can't get any test to run for more than a minute without errors.
i've done some overclocking on my own with decent results, but i'm looking for some expert advice. what i need help with the most is, well, everything. about what range of voltage (CPU, MCH, FSB, RAM) should i be at for the 3.8-4.0GHz range? I've left the RAM timings at their automatic timings (5-5-5-18, i believe) and just adjusted the voltage. I've tried different speeds with different multiplier values, but seeing as it can freely move up and down, i've found that 13x is a great number. i have the ability to go to 14, but the computer fails immediately with it for some reason.
sorry for the long-winded post. hope y'all can help me!
drew.
About the AC97 Front audio. I went to intel's site and grabbed the newest driver for the sigmate audio w/ Intel audio studio. One driver for legacy front panel wouldn't run properly. So I removed it and installed the 2nd driver on the list for HD front audio. now my audio works perfectly almost. I plug in my headphones to my front panel and it switches to the headphones. Only issue I have now is the front mic input is so low. I have to have mic boost on with the input turned all the way up for people to just heard me. I don't know if this is a driver issue or a BIOS one.
I finally got my board stable. I ended up only going to 370 FSB. My settings are:
E6600 F stepping - default vCore 1.352
FSB - 370 mhz
vCore - 1.512
vFSB - 1.35
vMCH - 1.550
ref Freq - 266
Mem Freq - 667
vDimm - 2.32
4-4-4-12 @ 928 mhz
Watchdog - disabled
C1E - Enabled
EIST - Enabled
Temps:
Idle: 32*C
Load: 65*C
I had C1E and EIST disabled for testing and enabled them once it was stable. I haven't had any sability issues with them enabled.
I've played around with lowering vMCH but I ended up with an error in orthos after 9 hours @ 1.500. I haven't really had a chance to lower the vFSB and will get around to doing that in the very near future.
I will be extatic if a future BIOS will allow downward multi's. then i can run my mem 1:1.
thanks... so are you having any conflicts between the intel & the vista drivers? any chance you can tell me exactly which one you download (name or link)?Quote:
Originally Posted by Maglin
thanks!!!
actually, everything works so nicely at the moment, i hate to mess it up... concidering i will probably never use the headphones, anyways...
x6800ES huh? :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by warrier04
If you like the 13x multiplier try this to start...
Set the FSB to 310, leave the fsb and mch voltages at their default. The cpu voltage you'll have to play with. What's it's default?
Set the reference/memory freq to 266/667, leave the timings at their default and set the memory voltage as required.
All of this will get your cpu to 4ghz but slightly underclock your memory. This way you'll know that if it's unstable, it's probably the cpu or the cpu voltage.
Depending on what your memory can do, you might want to try lowering the multiplier a notch and raising the FSB to bring the memory speed up. After you've established that the cpu is stable, at 4ghz that is.
http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scri...stems&lang=engQuote:
Originally Posted by argylesocks
It works. Just download it and run setup. All it gives you above the vista drivers is the front panel audio.
Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
thanks!
Im getting a E6600ES B0-Stepping, traded it for my old E6300 plus 80€'s.
Will that CPU work on any BIOS?
And what do you guys think about the B0-Stepping, should i sell it and get a new Xeon 3060 instead? hm.
BTW, gtj - have you gotten any feedback from intel about the C1E-bug?
They replied me but it was an automatically generated mail...
Never heard of them again tho.
Thanks for the help!Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
I'll once I get out of my Dynamics test tonight, it'll be overclocking time.
The Corsair memory has been nothing but rock steady since I've started using it, so I trust it can take a wee bit of pushing :cool: .
I'll report back later on tonight.
D.
I didn't modify the capacitors, and the problem was the same regardless of the heatpipe orientation. Could just be my rev of the D975xbx2, but the silver mounting plate (with the cheap plastic push-pins) that attaches to the Ninja itself has rounded sides ... one side always touched the top row of capacitors regardless of orientation. I had to take a metal file and shave down one side of the Ninja mounting plate to get it to clear the capacitors.Quote:
Originally Posted by purplehaze
I had it installed and working fine while touching the capacitors for a couple days before removing it to fix the plate. Seemed to work fine but I'd rather be safe than sorry. Assume other boards don't have the same problem. Didn't notice any major drop in temps with the mounting plate mod.
Played a bunch of games last night and the rear and upper fans in my P180 keep the Ninja and E6600 very, very cool. My only problem is the 8800GTX card which heats the motherboard up considerably. Despite removing the middle HDD bay and a Scythe 1000rpm fan blowing cool air into the case, directly to the 8800GTX actually, the video card is so hot it heats the surrounding MB sensors up so much that I get 52c MB temp under load while the CPU stays cooler. Kind of an odd situation. I know my video card temps are well within spec but if I'm going to OC the FSB I figure I should try to get the motherboard down to the 40s under load, if possible.
The P180 came with a vent for the PCI slots that fits a smaller (and louder) fan ... I'm going to construct a vent out of fomecore and add a 120mm fan to exhaust air from the (mostly) empty PCI bay to get the card and MB cooler. Hope that works, or else I might get one of those Antec Super Cyclone double-slot blowers. Reviews say they're quiet on low and should help keep the 8800 cooler than it's used to.
I just find it strange because the CPU is 10+ hours ORTHOS stable at 3GHz on 1.2875V and it runs very cool... about 30deg idle and 42 full load with about 26deg ambients. So it looks like it has potential and hence the reason I'm leaning towards the board.Quote:
Originally Posted by GPSeek
Alpha: Thanks mate, but It's very frustrating, I'm starting to question this skill heh. :)
5-5-5-18 is JEDEC SPD for 800mhz, stock voltage 1.85v. Safe but slow. Almost all the Valueram in the market can manual adjust to also safe 800mhz 5-5-5-15@1,85-2.0Quote:
i've done some overclocking on my own with decent results, but i'm looking for some expert advice. what i need help with the most is, well, everything. about what range of voltage (CPU, MCH, FSB, RAM) should i be at for the 3.8-4.0GHz range? I've left the RAM timings at their automatic timings (5-5-5-18, i believe) and just adjusted the voltage. I've tried different speeds with different multiplier values, but seeing as it can freely move up and down, i've found that 13x is a great number. i have the ability to go to 14, but the computer fails immediately with it for some reason.
vDimm - 2.32...:stick: Why not run 1:1 4-4-4-12 1.9/2.0v?Quote:
I finally got my board stable. I ended up only going to 370 FSB. My settings are:
E6600 F stepping - default vCore 1.352
FSB - 370 mhz
vCore - 1.512
vFSB - 1.35
vMCH - 1.550
ref Freq - 266
Mem Freq - 667
vDimm - 2.32
4-4-4-12 @ 928 mhz
EDIT: I do not understand...266/667 is 1:1, but is 740 mhz@370 fsb, not 928...
i downloaded both TAT & Coretemp.
when running orthos, my temps only get around 31C. my idle temps are typically between 20-22c... and when im just playing around online, media center, etc, its around 25c.
do those seem low to you? (not that im complaining). im only at 3.0ghz right now...
i have an antec900, and even shut one of the front fans completely off... my zalman 9700 is only set at about 1/4th of the way.
in bios, my temps say about 29-31C.
I'd say that's pretty good.Quote:
Originally Posted by argylesocks
time to REALLY overclock it now :)Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
what is your choice for testing stability? orthos? if so, do i just do the blend test? for how long? i only tested for 1hr, cause i know 3.0ghz isnt too major.. but as i get up, im assuming i need to do more.
Yeah, get busy. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by argylesocks
Orthos blend is generally accepted as the test of stability. How long is a matter of debate. I'd say 8 hours to call something stable. That doesn't mean you have to run 8 hours for every combination you try though. What I do is run Orthos for no more than 10 minutes at a particular set of settings, mark it as a "possible", then move on and get a little more agressive. When I can't pass 10 minutes any more, I'll go back to the "possibles" and try them longer.
You've got to keep good notes though.
Hi all, here I am, confused again.
Can someone describe/explain the difference between the CPU voltage set in the BIOS and the CPU voltage displayed in (for example) CPU-Z? With a BIOS setting of 1.450V, CPU-Z reports 1.213V.
Also, is there a standard default voltage for each type of processor (e.g. E6600)? A lot of guides suggest starting 'one notch above the default' for CPU voltage, but the BIOS doesn't appear to display them that way. One tool (RMClock?) suggested about 1.325V as the default for an E6600; the IDCC just displays "Def".
My E6600 (stepping 6) is currently stable at 3.0GHz (333MHz FSB, 1.450V CPU, 1.3V FSB, 1.6V MCH), but isn't stable at 3.3GHz (366MHz FSB, 1.475V CPU, 1.3V FSB, 1.625V MCH). So, if I can understand the BIOS vs. CPU-Z voltage displays, I can make a judgement as to just how high to run the CPU voltage.
Thanks as always.
Actually 266/667 is 4/5 divider. CPU-z reports the same. Shows Mem freq @ 462.4 currently. Unless both gtj's handy memory calc page and CPU-Z are both wrong it's 4:5. I see 266/533 as 1:1 on both as that is what I was running for my OCing testing. Found CPU limit and then started to see which memory speed was stable. So far this is stable. I was thinking of trying 200/533 on the 800 strap to get some more bandwidth out of it and better memory performance on the lower strap.
The best driver I found for audio in XP was this one.
http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scri...stems&lang=eng
It's the driver for HD front panel and IAS. Don't care for IAS but it's working but with a very low level on the front mic input. I haven't actually checked the rear mic input yet.
In Vista I didn't install any drivers cept for the intel chipset drivers (wasn't needed but I wanted to be safe) and my video drivers for the 8800 which I'm using the Beta drivers that kind of suck for video game performance.
The F Stepping E6600 are pretty crappy. They all seem to have a much higher default vCore. Mine is 1.352. You can try setting vCore to 1.5 and going with 350 FSB. I do as gtj does for OCing. I run Orthos blend for 10-15 mintues at each setting. I increase FSB by 5 fsb after 350 until I either random reboot or get errors. Also it's a good idea to run core temp and monitor you core's temps. Personally I just try and stay under 70*C load temps. Also it's stated many times in the threed that CPU-Z doesn't show proper vCore on this board. Only way to know for sure is either use a DMM or just trust the BIOS screen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Touchstone
Thanks for that; just my luck to get this chip... BTW, how did you determine your default vCore? By measuring the voltage directly (DMM), or with some software?Quote:
Originally Posted by Maglin
I'm not complaining, though ... working with the Core2Duo reminds me of the days of the Celeron 300A. Bump a 66MHz FSB to 100MHz, and hey presto, a 450MHz CPU :)
On the BIOS page for the processor the current cpu voltage should be the default VID for the processor. You'll notice that it never changes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Touchstone
RMClock is also a good tool to see various cpu related things.
What is your FPO/PATCH plz ? With mine QX6700 ES step 4 B0 on the Asus Commando of i friend i could go to 470 FSB bootable SPI 1M, 510 FSB but it reboots just before windows and 410*9 stock vcore OCCT stable under single stage dod CPU at -9°cQuote:
Originally Posted by filagt
regards
Gotta love our board heaters, eh? :p: How are you measuring the MB Temp in Windows? I'm fairly certain Speedfan will do it, but is there an Intel tool? Also, I picked up an Antec 2 slot blower and on low, it's under the noise floor of my Scythe SFLEX E @ 1200RPM. @ med it's perhaps a touch louder, but still quieter than the 6 120mm fans in the stacker. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by slappynutz
Wow! Where are you? Alaska? @ room temp of 24C, I typically idle stock around your load, hehe. I'm in AZ btw.Quote:
Originally Posted by argylesocks
A couple years ago, I picked up a P4 630. I ran the typical blend and everything was all good. Then a buddy told me he had to raise vcore/lower cpu to pass large. Same thing happened to me and I've been using large ever since. I wonder if that's still true? As for stability, 8 hours would usually be enough. But I've had it fail @ 16hrs and it is nice to have a ~24hr run for assurance. And just to be sure everything will be ok, throw up a looping 3D Mark. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by gtj
300 to 450's a 50% increase, not bad. But the C2D in my sig gets a 69% increase going from 2128 to 3600. I bet some lucky folks hit 100% increase w/ an E6300. :eek: Tho they probably had to work hard for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Touchstone
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So my C2D board exp has been:
1. DS3, good times, but decided to go RAID and wanted the ICH7/8R love.
2. P5B Deluxe, good times, but died after attempting to flash the BIOS w/ the windows tool. :(
3. Commando, 2 of them, couldn't get rid of the electrical whine and noise and getting tired of the bad luck w/ Asus boards. Also didn't care for the lowering of my 16x PCIe slot.
So now I've switched to the 975 chipset and am EXTREMELY pleased w/ lack of the double boot when changing BIOS (usually RAM settings) on the 965's. HD Tach doesn't show any less performance from the ICH8R to the ICH7R and it actually feels a bit snappier w/ the twin 74GB ADFD's ~ 69GB slice, 64K strip: 7.2ms RAT/187MB/Sec STR. So now that I've run my memtest/orthos/3dmark @ stock, it's time to bring her up to speed and I have a couple questions.
1. This VT and XX option the BIOS. Above posts indicate VT would be relating to the Virtualization tech, so that will go. But there's another one in there too. (checking...)
2. I've read through most of the thread, but is there a post in particular that goes over the obscure settings and maybe some quirks in general of the board? Anyone bookmark it?
3. I found for the SB to touch the sink, it need an AWFUL lot of paste. Even after smoothing out the HS, it's barely touching when I put the normal amount of paste on there. The NB gets pretty warm despite the large HS and 2 120's going over it. I can't very well throw my Jing Ting cooler on there, so have you guys found 40 or 60mm fans to work well?
I just love the board's color theme and it's completely noise free. Hopefully I can get the FSB past 400, we'll see.
Cheers,
Jod
what would you say is the upper side of Vc?? I am not really interested in pushing to the max... I booted at 3.3 @ 1.45, but orthos crashed at 15mins.... upped it to 1.475... crashed again.
i am a nervous to start pushing 1.5v. am i being too cautious?
additionally, i was under impression that mp3 encoding would be a good measure of cpu usage to use for comparision. i ripped a cd at 2.4ghz... then again at 3.0ghz... results?? exactly the same. ugh. but 1min faster than my P4 1.6ghz.
1.5v isn't a problem provided you can keep your temps in line. I run 1.55v.Quote:
Originally Posted by argylesocks
Ripping a CD isn't a good test because it's a 2 part process. Ripping and Encoding. The ripping part takes almost no CPU but is limited by the speed of the CD drive. It's the encoder that takes the CPU. If you can, rip to WAV, then encode separately to see if there's a difference.