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so my wc system seems really having a problemQuote:
Originally Posted by TooFastForYa
when i get room temp at 25~26, i get 45~48 on core at idle at 4.4@1.4125v in bios
and not even have to mention full load, what is your temp under prime95 or ibt?
thanks!
If you have 9600s, are you wanting to run them at cas 4 1:1, and have you checked if thats even stable for your ram? My board undervolts vdimm, so 1.94 bios is really 1.90, yours may not and only need to be 1.90 bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by TooFastForYa
Start with this,
Code:******Motherboard Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.)******
Robust Graphics Booster.........................[ Auto ]
CPU Clock Ratio.................................[ 9 ]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio............................[ + 0.0 ]
CPU Frequency 4.4GHz............................[ 489 x 9.0]
******Clock Chip Control******
CPU Host Clock Control..........................[ Enabled ]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz)........................[ 489 ]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz).....................[ 100 ]
C.I.A 2.........................................[ Disabled ]
******Advanced Clock Control******
CPU Clock Drive.................................[ 800mv ]
PCI Express Clock Drive.........................[ 900mv ]
CPU Clock Skew..................................[ 0ps ]
MCH Clock Skew..................................[ 0ps ] or 50ps
******DRAM Performance Control******
Performance Enhance.............................[ Standard ]
(G) MCH Frequency Latch.........................[ 333 ]
System Memory Multipler.........................[ 2.40B ]
Memory Frequency 1066...........................[ 1174 ]
DRAM Timing Selectable..........................[ Manual ]
CAS Latency Time................................[ 5 ]
tRCD............................................[ 5 ]
tRP.............................................[ 5 ]
tRAS............................................[ 15 ]
******Advanced Timing Control******
tRRD[3].........................................[ 3 ] you settings may be different
tWTR[3].........................................[ 3 ]
tWR[6]..........................................[ 6 ]
tRFC[54]........................................[ 54 ]
tRTP[3].........................................[ 3 ]
Command Rate (cmd)[0]...........................[ 2T ]
******Channel A Timing Settings******
Static tRead Value [ 8 ] ................[ 8 ]
tRD Phase0 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase1 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD 2rd (Differnt Rank) [ 6 ] ................[ Auto ]
tWR 2wr (Differnt Rank) [ 6 ] ................[ Auto ]
tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank) [ 5 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD 2wr (Same/Difft Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ Auto ]
Dimm 1 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto ]
Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto ]
DDR Write Training..............................[ Auto ]
******Channel A Driving Settings******
Drive Strength Profile..........................[ 1200 ]
Data Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto ]
cmd Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ]
ctrl Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto ]
clk Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ]
Data Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ]
cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ]
clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
******Channel B Timing Settings******
Static tRead Value [ 8 ] ................[ 8 ]
tRD Phase0 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase1 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD 2rd (Differnt Rank) [ 6 ] ................[ Auto ]
tWR 2wr (Differnt Rank) [ 6 ] ................[ Auto ]
tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank) [ 5 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD 2wr (Same/Difft Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ Auto ]
Dimm 1 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto ]
Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto ]
DDR Write Training..............................[ Auto ]
******Channel B Driving Settings******
Drive Strength Profile..........................[ 1200 ]
Data Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto ]
cmd Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ]
ctrl Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto ]
clk Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ]
Data Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ]
cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ]
clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
******Motherboard Voltage Control******
Load-Line Calibration...........................[ Enabled ]
CPU Vcore [ 1.15 ]...................[ 1.4125 ]
CPU Termination [ 1.20 ]...................[ 1.300 ]
CPU PLL [ 1.50 ]...................[ 1.500 ]
CPU Reference [ 0.760 ]...................[ 0.848 ]
MCH Core [ 1.100 ]...................[ 1.360 ]
MCH Reference [ 0.760 ]...................[ 0.863 ]
MCH/DRAM Refernce [ 0.900 ]...................[ auto ]
ICH I/O [ 1.500 ]...................[ 1.500 ]
ICH Core [ 1.100 ]...................[ 1.100 ]
DRAM Voltage [ 1.800 ]...................[ 1.800 ]
DRAM Termination [ 0.900 ]...................[ auto ]
Channel A Ref [ 0.900 ]...................[ auto ]
Channel B Ref [ 0.900 ]...................[ auto ]
******Advanced BIOS Features******
Limit CPUID Max to 3............................[ Disabled ]
No-Execute memory Protect.......................[ Disabled ]
CPU Enhance Halt (CIE)..........................[ Disabled ]
C2/C2E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
C4/C4E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
CPU Thermal Monitor.............................[ Disabled ]
CPU EIST Function...............................[ Disabled ]
Virtualization Technology.......................[ Disabled ]
Mine idle at 25C, third core gets stuck at 34.
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...ss281/temp.jpg
um...just noticed there is no "cpu temp" in my everest 5.02.1750, and my mb couldnt be recognized too, my mb is p45-ud3p v1.6
would this be a problem meaning any faulty hw or it just doesnt matter? thanks!
just found there is only 1 guy having the same problem as me from google, looks like the motherboard temp is the cpu temp and the aux temp is the motherboard temp
so it shouldnt be a problem now
hoss you always nice help to everyone here :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoss331
i notice that you use Drive Strength Profile..........................[1200] i never use it what's the benefit of it ?
Cheers :up:
Sergio
I was wondering myself about the Drive Strength profile and what it does......Maybe loosens/tightens some sub timings is my guess.
Also, I just got a nice chip and cant wait to push it. 1.16v Small FFT/Blend stable at stock (VID 1.225). 1.28v at 4.05Ghz fully stable, and Super Pi benchable at 4.608Ghz 1.4v (CPUz load for all). Havent tweaked that high yet.
It must change some sub timings, I normally run at 1250 and the 1066 profile will not boot up or at least not on reasonable voltages. 1200 will boot up fine on 1066 but I usually just run which ever profile is the closest to the ram speed im using.Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
OK, I've been lurking here for quite some time. I'm trying to get my chip to 4.4 or 4.5 prime stable.
I really just need the opinions of you guys to tel me whether or not it's a lost cause.
I got an ep45-ud3r to replace my p5q dlx a few days ago. I am a bit happier with the new board over the old one. I had an ep45 on my other pc with an e8500 and have been very happy with it.
The rig in question...
I'm running the f9 bios
cooling is fuzion v2 + mcr320 + mcp355 (petra's top) + 3x yate loon med
OS is vista 32
My memory is 2x2gb ocz reaper hpc 8500
My q9650 is a 1.2500 VID
here's where I am right now... The settings below have been priming small fft for 1.5 hours or so without errors
Always runs of prime 95 small fft for stability.Code:******Motherboard Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.)******
Robust Graphics Booster.........................[ Auto ]
CPU Clock Ratio.................................[ 9 ]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio............................[ + 0.0 ]
CPU Frequency 4.4GHz............................[ 473 x 9.0]
******Clock Chip Control******
CPU Host Clock Control..........................[ Enabled ]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz)........................[ 473 ]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz).....................[ 100 ]
C.I.A 2.........................................[ Disabled ]
******Advanced Clock Control******
CPU Clock Drive.................................[ stock? ]
PCI Express Clock Drive.........................[ stock? ]
CPU Clock Skew..................................[ stock? ]
MCH Clock Skew..................................[ stock? ]
******DRAM Performance Control******
Performance Enhance.............................[ Standard ]
(G) MCH Frequency Latch.........................[ can't remember ]
System Memory Multipler.........................[ can't remember ]
Memory Frequency 1066...........................[ 946 ]
DRAM Timing Selectable..........................[ Manual ]
CAS Latency Time................................[ 5 ]
tRCD............................................[ 5 ]
tRP.............................................[ 5 ]
tRAS............................................[ 15 ]
******Advanced Timing Control******
tRRD[3].........................................[ auto ]
tWTR[3].........................................[ auto ]
tWR[6]..........................................[ auto ]
tRFC[54]........................................[ auto ]
tRTP[3].........................................[ auto ]
Command Rate (cmd)[0]...........................[ 2T ]
******Channel A Timing Settings******
Static tRead Value [ 8 ] ................[ auto ]
tRD Phase0 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase1 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD 2rd (Differnt Rank) [ 6 ] ................[ Auto ]
tWR 2wr (Differnt Rank) [ 6 ] ................[ Auto ]
tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank) [ 5 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD 2wr (Same/Difft Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ Auto ]
Dimm 1 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto ]
Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto ]
DDR Write Training..............................[ Auto ]
******Channel A Driving Settings****** I don't think my bios has this menu?
Drive Strength Profile..........................[ 1200 ]
Data Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto ]
cmd Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ]
ctrl Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto ]
clk Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ]
Data Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ]
cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ]
clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
******Channel B Timing Settings******
Static tRead Value [ 8 ] ................[ 8 ]
tRD Phase0 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase1 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD 2rd (Differnt Rank) [ 6 ] ................[ Auto ]
tWR 2wr (Differnt Rank) [ 6 ] ................[ Auto ]
tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank) [ 5 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD 2wr (Same/Difft Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ Auto ]
Dimm 1 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto ]
Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto ]
DDR Write Training..............................[ Auto ]
******Channel B Driving Settings******
Drive Strength Profile..........................[ 1200 ]
Data Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto ]
cmd Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ]
ctrl Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto ]
clk Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ]
Data Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ]
cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ]
clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
******Motherboard Voltage Control******
Load-Line Calibration...........................[ Enabled ]
CPU Vcore [ 1.15 ]...................[ 1.3875 ]
CPU Termination [ 1.20 ]...................[ 1.300 ]
CPU PLL [ 1.50 ]...................[ 1.500 ]
CPU Reference [ 0.760 ]...................[ 0.823 ]
MCH Core [ 1.100 ]...................[ 1.300 ]
MCH Reference [ 0.760 ]...................[ 0.863 ]
MCH/DRAM Refernce [ 0.900 ]...................[ 0.900 ]
ICH I/O [ 1.500 ]...................[ 1.500 ]
ICH Core [ 1.100 ]...................[ 1.100 ]
DRAM Voltage [ 1.800 ]...................[ 2.100 ]
DRAM Termination [ 0.900 ]...................[ 0.900 ]
Channel A Ref [ 0.900 ]...................[ 0.900 ]
Channel B Ref [ 0.900 ]...................[ 0.900 ]
******Advanced BIOS Features******
Limit CPUID Max to 3............................[ Disabled ]
No-Execute memory Protect.......................[ Disabled ]
CPU Enhance Halt (CIE)..........................[ Disabled ]
C2/C2E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
C4/C4E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
CPU Thermal Monitor.............................[ Disabled ]
CPU EIST Function...............................[ Disabled ]
Virtualization Technology.......................[ Disabled ]
Prior to these settings I have successfully gotten stability at the following:
UD3R
4200 (467x9) @ 1.328v core (cpuz)
P5Q
4000 (445x9) @ 1.3000v core (cpuz)
4100 (456x9) @ 1.3125v core (cpuz)
4200 (467x9) @ 1.3560v core (cpuz)
4250 (473X9) @ 1.36875v core (cpuz)
besides that, where are you guys getting the pl8 or pl9 option in your bios? I haven't seen that anywhere.
preemptive thanks...
and nice clocks btw guys. I hope I can get close.
I'll be familiar here, at least until I get stable near my goal.
Hoss, tried that template. Wouldn't even boot with 1.8 vdimm. Upped it to 1.9 and booted. Failed prime after 2 test. Temps look good however. Here is a screenshot. Three of my cores don't read under 37 as you can see. One that does read 27C at idle.
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/4036/captureihp.jpg
I just tried upping the vdimm to 1.94 and that gave me a bsod when I ran prime. :confused:
You are using the low voltage ram, right? If so and its not even booting up at rated voltage and slower than rated speed you might want to run memtest first. Clock it down to a know stable speed with ram at 1200 and run memtest, you may have a bad stick.
Now I might be having second thoughts about the lv 9600 ram I was going to get.
I was holding my finger above the buy button on those tridents all day today.
I get the 'Prime95 Application Error' when VCore is too low, but not low enough to cause a 0x000000124 BSOD.Quote:
Originally Posted by TooFastForYa
Try increasing VCore a few notches and see if it removes that particular error.
Well 4250 proved stable last night. Any help on lowering my core voltage would be greatly appreciated.
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1102/...rimestable.jpg
Yes, I am running LV ram. I will clock it at something low and test the memory now and report back.
Thanks guys.
Here are the results. Ram looks good. I have the vdimm at 1.9 though. I'm going to lower it now and see if it's still stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoss331
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1022/capturezxk.jpg
Wouldn't boot with anything less then 1.86 for vdimm, however I have gotten an error with memtest @ 1.86 so would prob be stable with a min of 1.88.
I don't know what the deal is. :confused:
Failed prime after 10 minutes.
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/5866/captureqsp.jpg
Test each stick individually at 1.80/1.82, if they wont pass at there rated voltage and stock speed id rma them.
Try 480x8-250a for 3840mhz cpu, this will also put your ram at 1200. If that passes then try 480x9-250a for 4320mhz. I cant boot with certain dividers with my OCZ LV Platinums. I also agree with KRich, not enough vcore will cause prime to stop responding.
GSkill f2-9600CL5D-4GBPI ordered. I hope it is good. I hate paying this price for ddr2.
^I just ordered a set of the OCZ blade low voltage ones.
Link
2x2gb 1.8v 5-5-5-18
$85 out the door from the egg. All I could find was 9200 though, the reviews said it would do 1200, so we'll see. Get me off that 1:1 divider. At half the price of the tridents 9600 or the PI 9600, I'll be happy with stock speed @ 1150.
IIRC same chips as the tridents. Elpida (sp) I think
Just to reiterate my above question (last page) ... Do you guys think I have a chance of getting 4400mhz stable out of my 1.250 VID q9650???
So what is the go-to stepping for these?
theres only one, E0
Tested both sticks in single channel with positive results. Both sticks passed >400% coverage in memtest @ 1.80vdimm/600mhz.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoss331
Screenshots:
Stick 1...
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2241/stick1.jpg
Stick 2...
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7788/stick2.jpg
Put both sticks in and boot using the same settings as above and get mem errors in memtest. Bumped MCH voltage up to 1.4 and get errors even faster. :(