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06-12-2008, 12:42 PM
y2kbos

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Originally Posted by GAR

Im hoping for these cards to do well, i just got myself a P45 and wouldnt mind doing crossfire for once, since most games run fine on my 9800GTX and if the 4870 beats it, then i should have no problem running all games at good frame rates.

What you gonna do with your GTX 280?

I have a 8800gts 512mb at the moment in my little matx beast, dont know what I am going to do, has to be single card...
06-12-2008, 12:43 PM
Xello

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helmore

For what reason? Need a better heating element (radiator) in your room? Better multi-monitor support? I have a feeling they won't be working along with any of these 48x0s in CFX....the performance difference between the 38x0 and 48x0 is just to big to do that.

Don't the cores have to be the same variant to do that? Similar limitation as SLI i thought, ie you can crossfire a 3850 and a 3870 but not a 2900 and a 3870. Are the 48XX's going to be the same core as 3000 series?
06-12-2008, 12:44 PM
y2kbos

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerazax

Looks like PowerColor jumped the gun and sold the 4850 in Hong Kong:

15194 w/ QX9650 at 4GHz in 3dMark06 default

Not bad methinks

You can post your benchmarks now ORB :rofl:
06-12-2008, 12:45 PM
Genius_pt

15k on 3dmark06 is not bad at all.

I would love to see how does hd4850 scales with some more mhz on memory and core :D.
06-12-2008, 12:46 PM
Luka_Aveiro

Quote:

Originally Posted by y2kbos

You can post your benchmarks now ORB :rofl:

If that's so, it's equivalent to an 8800GT.
06-12-2008, 12:49 PM
y2kbos

15194 w/ QX9650 at 4GHz, isnt bad..

E8400 @ 4.0ghz and 9800gtx gets the same..

http://www.pix.sparky-s.ie/images/sl...4i0z_thumb.jpg

I get 13.4k with 8800gts and E2180 @ 3.30ghz
06-12-2008, 01:01 PM
Chickenfeed

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerazax

Looks like PowerColor jumped the gun and sold the 4850 in Hong Kong:

http://my.ocworkbench.com/bbs/showthread.php?p=432522

15194 w/ QX9650 at 4GHz in 3dMark06 default

Not bad methinks

Decent but its the SM2/HDR scores that matter. The SM2 is about 1000 less than my 88GTX got with a Q6600 @ 3.6 but the HDR is about 900 higher so they've made some improvements there for sure.
06-12-2008, 01:07 PM
Papu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xello

Don't the cores have to be the same variant to do that? Similar limitation as SLI i thought, ie you can crossfire a 3850 and a 3870 but not a 2900 and a 3870. Are the 48XX's going to be the same core as 3000 series?

them why can you have a 2900xt and 3870 in crossfire.
its either 2900 onwards on nothing i'd say
06-12-2008, 01:17 PM
bedlamite

Quote:

Originally Posted by Papu

them why can you have a 2900xt and 3870 in crossfire.

You can? Oo
06-12-2008, 01:21 PM
AliG

Quote:

Originally Posted by Papu

them why can you have a 2900xt and 3870 in crossfire.
its either 2900 onwards on nothing i'd say

Its because the 2900xt and 3870 are the same card, only real difference is the memory controller, other than that the 3870 is a die shrink with a few more features
06-12-2008, 01:23 PM
Papu

Quote:

Originally Posted by bedlamite

You can? Oo

review
yeah hopefully with new drivers its become better the WIC one is pretty impressive :D
06-12-2008, 01:25 PM
Papu

Quote:

Originally Posted by AliG

Its because the 2900xt and 3870 are the same card, only real difference is the memory controller, other than that the 3870 is a die shrink with a few more features

yeah but that was my point , either you can stick a 2900 or 3870 with a 4850 or you wont ;/
06-12-2008, 01:27 PM
ghost101

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chickenfeed

Decent but its the SM2/HDR scores that matter. The SM2 is about 1000 less than my 88GTX got with a Q6600 @ 3.6 but the HDR is about 900 higher so they've made some improvements there for sure.

If these posted earlier

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/7209/it168sc0.th.jpg

are true, we may be unlikely to see improvements from the next gen cards in 3dmark06.
06-12-2008, 01:30 PM
perkam

Score with Stock Intel Quad = 13k. Nice, but not amazing.

This does set up the 4870 to get 15k stock though, and 17k with a 4Ghz Intel Quad. (Coming HERRENDOUSLY close to the GTX 280 mark 0_o)

Perkam
06-12-2008, 01:41 PM
y2kbos

Quote:

Originally Posted by perkam

Score with Stock Intel Quad = 13k. Nice, but not amazing.

This does set up the 4870 to get 15k stock though, and 17k with a 4Ghz Intel Quad. (Coming HERRENDOUSLY close to the GTX 280 mark 0_o)

Perkam

3D Mark benches are nice to get at this stage, but totally pointless in the scheme of things..

Crysis, WIC, COD4, COH 1920x1200, Very High Quality are the benches needed to tell ous what these cards can do..

We might get these in the next few days, looks good so far for Ati
06-12-2008, 01:42 PM
jimmyz

Card has arrived. Info will be in a thread tonight, So far I can say It is an excellent performer. I will be busy benching and posting results tonight. Stay tuned to XS for more information.

A little teaser 15k in 06 is easy (4600mhz yorkie). much more info coming.
06-12-2008, 01:44 PM
eleeter

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmyz

Card has arrived. Info will be in a thread tonight, So far I can say It is an excellent performer. I will be busy benching and posting results tonight. Stay tuned to XS for more information.

Sweet. :)

The 4850?
06-12-2008, 01:45 PM
y2kbos

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmyz

Card has arrived. Info will be in a thread tonight, So far I can say It is an excellent performer. I will be busy benching and posting results tonight. Stay tuned to XS for more information.

A little teaser 15k in 06 is easy (4600mhz yorkie). much more info coming.

How long we talking?

Your not going to lets ous hanging for half a day like OBR and then tell ous you feel bad for poor AMD?

Thanks for doing it...
06-12-2008, 01:50 PM
Dark-Energy

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmyz

Card has arrived. Info will be in a thread tonight, So far I can say It is an excellent performer. I will be busy benching and posting results tonight. Stay tuned to XS for more information.

A little teaser 15k in 06 is easy (4600mhz yorkie). much more info coming.

Hey dude, would you mind posting temperatures as well? I'd like to see idle temperatues and load temps, and see if this 70C at idle is true or not.
06-12-2008, 01:52 PM
Helmore

Quote:

Originally Posted by y2kbos

How long we talking?

Your not going to lets ous hanging for half a day like OBR and then tell ous you feel bad for poor AMD?

Thanks for doing it...

I was going to say the same thing :p:

Don't pull an OBR eh :p::cool::p::yepp::ROTF

EDIT: first quote shouldn't have been there...
06-12-2008, 01:53 PM
ceevee

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerazax

Looks like PowerColor jumped the gun and sold the 4850 in Hong Kong:

http://my.ocworkbench.com/bbs/showthread.php?p=432522

15194 w/ QX9650 at 4GHz in 3dMark06 default

Not bad methinks

I get 15000 with qx9770@3.8Ghz, 8800ultra right now, so not so good imo
06-12-2008, 01:56 PM
perkam

Quote:

Originally Posted by ceevee

I get 15000 with qx9770@3.8Ghz, 8800ultra right now, so not so good imo

4850 is a $220 card :)

4870 with 512MB GDDR5, which is expected to get 17k with a 4ghz Quad, is $329 :)

Perkam
06-12-2008, 01:56 PM
bill_d

full specs end the great SP debate:D
06-12-2008, 01:58 PM
natty

benching at 4600? :eek:
06-12-2008, 01:58 PM
ceevee

Quote:

Originally Posted by perkam

4850 is a $220 card :)

4870 with 512MB GDDR5, which is expected to get 17k with a 4ghz Quad, is $329 :)

Perkam

So hard to decide. Should I get dual 4870s in crossfire on my X48(and take a risk on crossfire compatibility and support)? Or just get the GTX280??

arrghhh...:shrug:

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