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03-10-2008, 04:57 PM
Grnfinger

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Originally Posted by zlojack

Yeah. If this sorts the memory timings then definitely it will be worth doing. I am teetering on the brink here, but I figure I'll at least wait until I get my QX9650 before deciding.

It seems more and more like Asus are going to abandon the Maximus Formula bios... still no new "official" release since 0907.

Did you read Warboy's post?
You might be on to something

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=2205
03-10-2008, 05:06 PM
dude_500

Quote:

Originally Posted by kup

Several people have had similar problems. I'm not sure of the fix yet? Are you loading the overclock profiles cos that won't work, you'll need to set them all manually again.

No, I manually set everything after the flash.
03-10-2008, 05:07 PM
zlojack

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grnfinger

Did you read Warboy's post?
You might be on to something

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=2205

I did read it. If this is true, it's pretty disappointing and will probably make me steer clear of Asus products again (both my Mobo and GPU are Asus).

I just got in the balance of parts to build my LC rig on this board, and now we find out that they're pretty much discontinued, which is probably why we're not seeing any action on the bios.

Anyway, if this mod salvages it, great! If not, I might have to check out the DFI's.
03-10-2008, 05:33 PM
ZenEffect

Quote:

Originally Posted by zlojack

Funny... I get that too, but can't pinpoint when it started.

:confused:

it did that to me when i went to bios 1004, but now im back on 907 and the wait is no more
03-10-2008, 05:41 PM
kup

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenEffect

it did that to me when i went to bios 1004, but now im back on 907 and the wait is no more

I can confirm the same on 1004 and not on 0505 which is what I use atm.
03-10-2008, 07:33 PM
.OCX

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Originally Posted by [cTx]Warboy

"Well Wouldn't the Rampage Formula or the ASUS 780i board be more acceptable because I do not have DDR3?" and he said "I don't know sir, We will email you by tomorrow with either the Tracking Number or a List of Upgrades we can offer you"

That is worrisome and equally awesome at the same time. Worrisome because "discontinued" could possibly mean Phased Out. Phased out due to....?

Awesome is self explanatory.
03-10-2008, 07:37 PM
ericab

Quote:

Originally Posted by kup

I can confirm the same on 1004 and not on 0505 which is what I use atm.

i currently have that "issue" too.... no idea what it is.
bios 907..

---

Warboy, you wrote 'discounted';
did you mean 'discontinued' ?
if so, im pretty upset with asus on their decision... :slapass:

i have a feeling my next board will be a DFI like many others on this forum have said.
03-10-2008, 07:55 PM
zlojack

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericab

i currently have that "issue" too.... no idea what it is.
bios 907..

---

Warboy, you wrote 'discounted';
did you mean 'discontinued' ?
if so, im pretty upset with asus on their decision... :slapass:

i have a feeling my next board will be a DFI like many others on this forum have said.

+1 for that...

If this is the case, I am tempted to look into the DFI option soon. Only issue would be the damn waterblocks I already have!
03-10-2008, 09:00 PM
Durkadurka

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Originally Posted by tc17

This isn't good. I can't return it now either. Do you know of which ram does work fine with this board?

I kinda figured an expensive board like this would be less likely to have problems. I did try the 1004 bios and the 907 bios. Although I haven't had problems booting into the bios or anything, just the memtest errors on 2 of 4 sticks.

Well I run 4 sticks of Crucial Ballistix PC-8500, and they work just fine.
The BIOS has a lot of options that has an effect on the ram tho, so if you post your BIOS settings (from Extreme Tweaker) using the format posted throughout this thread then you'll probably get some hints as to what settings you should try.
03-10-2008, 09:18 PM
Warboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericab

i currently have that "issue" too.... no idea what it is.
bios 907..

---

Warboy, you wrote 'discounted';
did you mean 'discontinued' ?
if so, im pretty upset with asus on their decision... :slapass:

i have a feeling my next board will be a DFI like many others on this forum have said.

Yes. Thats what I mean. I think my next one is a Foxconn.
03-10-2008, 10:20 PM
Renegade5399

Nice. This worked perfectly. I am also seeing less voltage for the CPU to hold the same clocks. This is outstanding. Now to figure out all these RAM timings...

Stilt, fantastic job, thank you.
03-10-2008, 11:29 PM
Kondik

End of life product ? They will come with a new revision proppably.. who knows. It's the same as it was with X38 DQ6 , they found to solder EPU on the PCB as a great HW revision. Maybe Asus is planing something tiny too
03-10-2008, 11:44 PM
ChaosMinionX

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Originally Posted by Kondik

End of life product ? They will come with a new revision proppably.. who knows. It's the same as it was with X38 DQ6 , they found to solder EPU on the PCB as a great HW revision. Maybe Asus is planing something tiny too

In all honesty they will probably kick people to Rampages when the Maximus is EOL..... I am sure you can talk them into a small replacement fee to upgrade it since you wouldn't want to leave the ROG lineup.
03-10-2008, 11:45 PM
ChaosMinionX

How does this Rampage BIOS do with 8GB of RAM?
03-11-2008, 01:00 AM
Mic

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX

I am sure you can talk them into a small replacement fee to upgrade it since you wouldn't want to leave the ROG lineup.

Doubt it, they got some lousy support.
03-11-2008, 04:46 AM
Zucker2k

Discontinued is to be expected: The Maximus Formula is a limited edition board.
03-11-2008, 04:59 AM
Mic

Quick question, got broken maximus SE around, it shouldn't be a problem to take the chipset watercooling system from that one and put on a no SE maximus?
03-11-2008, 06:07 AM
ShawnTRD

I emailed ASUS. Hopefully they will make a Rampage Formula version for the MF motherboard.

My email to http://vip.asus.com/eservice/techserv.aspx

I'm not really having a problem. I just wanted to ask if there would be any way ASUS could come out with a BIOS that has some of the options that the Rampage Formula motherboard does. There is a forum about Turn your Maximus Formula into Rampage Formula. I don't want to viod my warranty but I would like the extra you get from the Rampage Formula BIOS. I bought this motherboard because it was a all out gamer/overclocker motherboard, and we haven't seen new BIOS in awhile.

Thanks
Shawn
03-11-2008, 06:14 AM
jakku

I think so, Yes.. You can put watercooling on your MF non SE.. ;)
03-11-2008, 06:18 AM
Den_Sjaekert

Hi guys,
I've got a problem again. My overclock isn't prime95 stable.
I've run OCCT mix for 8hrs+ withouth a problem, but prime 95 blend makes my pc reboot after less than 2hrs.

My NB temp does get about 53C, could this be the problem?

My settings are:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2t
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : -
Row Refresh Cycle Time : -
Write Recovery Time : -
Read to Precharge Time : -

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : -
Write to Read Delay (S) : -
Write to Read Delay (D) : -
Read to Read Delay (S) : -
Read to Read Delay (D) : -
Write to Write Delay (S) : -
Write to Write Delay (D) : -
DRAM Static Read Control: disabled
Ai Clock Twister : strong
Transaction Booster : enabled - 0

CPU Voltage : 1.4V
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56V
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55V
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.44
South Bridge Voltage : 1.075
Loadline Calibration : enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : auto
03-11-2008, 06:18 AM
Renegade5399

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zucker2k

Discontinued is to be expected: The Maximus Formula is a limited edition board.

The SE model was supposed to be the limited edition.
03-11-2008, 06:34 AM
xgman

If indeed there is any benefit to this rampage bios, why wouldn't asus just make the changes in the maximus formula bios to match?
03-11-2008, 06:38 AM
Zucker2k

Isn't the SE the version Warboy has? Anyway, I didn't think there was any differentiation in the MF with regards to Asus since they both use the same bios.
03-11-2008, 06:43 AM
kup

Quote:

Originally Posted by xgman

If indeed there is any benefit to this rampage bios, why wouldn't asus just make the changes in the maximus formula bios to match?

Because by locking these options away from us they can attempt to sell a new board.

Jow Public may fall for it, but we should be able to see through it and find a fix, as The Stilt has done.
03-11-2008, 06:44 AM
kup

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zucker2k

Isn't the SE the version Warboy has? Anyway, I didn't think there was any differentiation in the MF with regards to Asus since they both use the same bios.

There is no difference at all. The Non-SE had a revision or 1.03 instead of 1.02 but that was it, no actual changes to the board.

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