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08-06-2008, 02:04 PM
mdcobra

Leeghoofd, can you help me out?
E8400, OCZ PC-8000

Working perfect with the following settings (3.8GHz), but I want to hit the magic 4GHz :D

By only upping the FSB to 445 and 1.375v core, I can boot, but get Orthos failures within minutes :mad:
500x8.0 results are the same, the memory isn't the bottleneck (tested it @500MHz)

What other setting could I try?

CPU Ratio Setting: AUTO
FSB Strap to Northbridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 423
PCI-E Frequency: 101
FSB Strap To North Bridge: AUTO
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-847

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO

DRAM Timing Control: Manual
Timings: 5-5-5-15, tRFC 55, all other on AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
Mem. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO

CPU Voltage: 1.35000v
CPU GTL (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL: AUTO
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.20v
DRAM Voltage: 1.94v
NB Voltage: 1.26v

Loadline Calibration: Disabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCI-E Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew: AUTO
NB Clock Skew: AUTO
08-06-2008, 02:07 PM
miguelca

If you want to seriously damage or totally kill your brand new PSU... GO FOR IT! :ROTF:

Now talking serious, don't do that wongnog.
Just the thought of it gives me goosebumps! :eek:

Please show some respect for your hardware, ok? ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by wongnog

Thanks for the link, I filled it out and even overestimated some items. It reported a recommend psu of 434 w (that's for 20% capacitor aging). So hopefully a replacement 600 w GameXStream should be okay?

Lucky for me I am picking up a new PSU from OCZ today, and NCIX is shipping me a new P5Q-E for free. Ground shipping though so it'll take a few days to get here... but in the mean time I could try plugging in the new psu into the burnt out 4-pin cpu plug and see if it posts or not. But it sounds like a bit of a risky experiment don't you think? I just picture those pins being fried and trying to plug power into it causing smoke and fire! :eek:
08-06-2008, 03:11 PM
wongnog

Quote:

Originally Posted by miguelca

If you want to seriously damage or totally kill your brand new PSU... GO FOR IT! :ROTF:

Now talking serious, don't do that wongnog.
Just the thought of it gives me goosebumps! :eek:

Please show some respect for your hardware, ok? ;)

heheh okay I didn't really think it was a good idea either. I just can't believe how many times I've had to taken my P5Q-E in and out of my case. So aggravating! I finally bought a magnetized philips screwdriver to help me with those tiny motherboard screws in hard to reach places.
08-06-2008, 03:16 PM
jVIDIA

Was the 1103 bios removed from Asus site ? Is it true ? :(

edit: forget it ... it is still there :D
08-06-2008, 11:58 PM
Leeghoofd

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdcobra

Working perfect with the following settings (3.8GHz), but I want to hit the magic 4GHz :D

CPU Ratio Setting: AUTO
FSB Strap to Northbridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 450
PCI-E Frequency: 101
FSB Strap To North Bridge: 850

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO

DRAM Timing Control: Manual
Timings: 5-5-5-15, tRFC 55, all other on AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled -- if stable go enabled here
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
Mem. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO -- if stable : Manual -- try 10

CPU Voltage: 1.375v with LLC -- LLC disabled : start 1.425, then try to go lower
CPU GTL (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.26v
DRAM Voltage: 1.94v
NB Voltage: 1.26v

Loadline Calibration: Disabled -- try enabled -- otherwise up Vcore more
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCI-E Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew: AUTO
NB Clock Skew: AUTO

Good luck !
try just to enable load line calibration... set it at 1.375 then try go lower is stable... or leave it disabled and try 1.425, go lower from there... never leave CPU PLL at auto, the value is way too high !!!
08-07-2008, 07:57 AM
jarhead1979

Hi, sorry to jump in mid point. Am going to be purchasing this board once its sub £100. Have found some sites carry an s/l version, is this jsut marketing or such? I have found quite a few sites offering a product with s/l after it. Here is an example:

http://www.ginger6.com/advanced_sear...rds=p5q+deluxe

Its a nice price if indeed it is no different to the normal wording of the same board.
08-07-2008, 08:11 AM
Leeghoofd

Just buy the E version jarhead, performs as good and is cheaper... no idea what S/L could mean... really wonder for the warranty , it's 2 year via Ginger6 and the 3rd year via Asus then ?
08-07-2008, 08:50 AM
Martin.v.r

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600fsb bios 1103,601fsb no go:confused:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=399827
08-07-2008, 10:44 AM
RAdoxx

I'm planning on getting this board in a week or so but I have a question.

I don't like having settings on auto, is it possible to put voltages on the lowest possible setting and still run things stable, like I can on my IP35 Pro? On stock speeds ofc.
08-07-2008, 11:09 AM
ThugsRook

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAdoxx

I'm planning on getting this board in a week or so but I have a question.

I don't like having settings on auto, is it possible to put voltages on the lowest possible setting and still run things stable, like I can on my IP35 Pro? On stock speeds ofc.

there are some voltage "bugs" on these boards, all documented and confirmed earlier in this thread.
08-07-2008, 01:07 PM
Leeghoofd

Don't put PLL, NB, FSB Term voltage at the lowest RAdoxx... but one setting higher : eg CPU PLL lowest is 1.5 (but overvolts to 1.75) set 1.52 then... also take note that the dimm overvolts with about 0.08 so 2.0 volt in bios is close to 2.1 in reality (don't smoke ya rams )
08-07-2008, 01:12 PM
Cloud76

Just a confirmation please:

4096MB-Kit OCZ PC2-8500 Platinum, CL5. Defective?

The problem and my test:
Unfortunately I believe that one of the two modules (2x2GB) is defective.
Tested with the last version of MEMTEST86+ v2.01; the Kit produced some errors so I tried to test each dimm module separately.
The DIMM module marked SN :xxx-1 is not working properly at the nominal frequency of 1066 Mhz (default), producing errors from the test number 5.
So, I tried to repeat continually test number 5: sometimes this dimm successfully concludes only the first pass (in about 2 minutes and 30 seconds), but as early as the second or third pass it produces some errors.
The other dimm module marked SN: xxx-2 work correctly and pass several passes regularly of the test number 5 without errors.
Of course, I testet the two dimm in the same memory slot and with the same settings.
It can be only a problem related to a defective dimm?
08-07-2008, 01:13 PM
Leeghoofd

You seem to have one bad dimm yes cloud... you can also try HCI memtest in windows for a second opinion... did you have irregular behaviour with ya board ?
08-07-2008, 01:26 PM
Cloud76

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

You seem to have one bad dimm yes cloud... you can also try HCI memtest in windows for a second opinion... did you have irregular behaviour with ya board ?

Leave DRAM Frequency on AUTO, if I set the same frequency manually it doesn't post over 1000 Mhz.
On AUTO the mobo boot fine, maybe a bios bug (1103)...:confused:
I tried the xxx-2 dimm at about 1084 Mhz and pass the test 5, the -1 dimm start to make errors from 1061Mhz.
Same settings, unplugged one dimm and replaced with the other.
I have no installed OS yet, I was testing if all was good, all material is just arrived. :(
RMA time?
08-07-2008, 02:19 PM
RAdoxx

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

Don't put PLL, NB, FSB Term voltage at the lowest RAdoxx... but one setting higher : eg CPU PLL lowest is 1.5 (but overvolts to 1.75) set 1.52 then... also take note that the dimm overvolts with about 0.08 so 2.0 volt in bios is close to 2.1 in reality (don't smoke ya rams )

Sounds complicated :rolleyes:

How about the auto settings then, are they alright or will they give everything just a tad more voltage than necessary?
08-07-2008, 03:48 PM
bondisdead

Wake from Vista Sleep Issues?

Quote:

Originally Posted by bondisdead

Hi guys, looking for some help here. I have a fresh vista ultimate 32-bit install on the P5Q-Deluxe. I put my computer to S3 / sleep w/out issues. However, waking it up has been a very hit-miss affair. I've only enabled the keyboard driver to wake up the computer. The mouse is disabled for this. I can confirm this, because I can move the mouse and it has no effect. If I hit a key on the keyboard, the computer wakes up right away. This is the hit-miss part.

1)Sometimes the display comes right up, and things seem fine. However, if I put it back to sleep, then try and wake it up, the computer comes on, but nothing happens. bootup either halts with a flashing cursor, or the monitor doesn't even come on! In that case, I am forced to hit the reset button.

2) Alternately, the computer comes up, but I will get a windows message about a program closing. "Host Process for Windows Services was closed" or the ethernet port is dead. If I try and diagnose, the computer once blue-screened! Or it does nothing, even crashing the device manager. I am forced to reboot.

So with either of these scenarios, sleep has bought me nothing but headaches! What is strange is that it works flawlessly on my two ASUS P5E-Vm boards. The only ASUS SW I installed was the EPU utility, but i since uninstalled that. I have also unplugged all USB devices other than the keyboard/mouse. I have an ati 4850 video card with the latest drivers. No difference w/ older and newer video drivers.

Help, I'm at wits end! I'm thinking yet another install, but sheesh, that takes me 10+ hours in order to get SP1 and all of my software.

I hate to respond to my own thread, but was hoping people could at least confirm that they are able to wake their P5Q Dlx from vista s3 sleep? Or am I the only one with this problem?
08-07-2008, 06:21 PM
scottk

Posting this in case anyone else encounters it...

If you use an add-on HD controller card and the Intel controller does not display on boot, and the HDs and/or arrays on the Intel controller "disappear", try disabling INT13 on the add-on card if the option is available.

I'm using a Highpoint 2310 PCI-E card and had to disable INT13 using the hptflash.exe Highpoint bios flash prog.

Also using a Promise SATA300 TX4 PCI controller on this board, and the detect-speed for the drives hung off that controller is very slow compared to other boards I use this same type of card on. I also could not use more than one of these cards connected to the mobo. Using two cards with 6 or more drives hung off them results in arrays on the Intel controller not being detected.
08-07-2008, 06:24 PM
scottk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

Don't put PLL, NB, FSB Term voltage at the lowest RAdoxx... but one setting higher : eg CPU PLL lowest is 1.5 (but overvolts to 1.75) set 1.52 then... also take note that the dimm overvolts with about 0.08 so 2.0 volt in bios is close to 2.1 in reality (don't smoke ya rams )

What's actual vPLL if it's set to AUTO? Does it default to 1.5 actual or overvolt as well?
08-07-2008, 06:31 PM
waynetu

read previous pages you will get the answer to your own question.
08-07-2008, 08:58 PM
mathewgx

Does anyone have problems with ainap ? I can turn it on but when i turn it off , it loads the desktop but i get a bsod after 2-3seconds ? Any suggestions ?
08-07-2008, 10:02 PM
ThugsRook

Quote:

Originally Posted by mathewgx

Does anyone have problems with ainap ? I can turn it on but when i turn it off , it loads the desktop but i get a bsod after 2-3seconds ? Any suggestions ?

uninstall it, and the rest of the Asus software, reboot, problem is now fixed :up:

seriously, Asus software is junk, dont bother using it :down:
08-07-2008, 10:35 PM
Leeghoofd

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAdoxx

Sounds complicated :rolleyes:

How about the auto settings then, are they alright or will they give everything just a tad more voltage than necessary?

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottk

What's actual vPLL if it's set to AUTO? Does it default to 1.5 actual or overvolt as well?

AUTO overvolts lads on PLL, FSB Term and NB voltage... it's the same voltage as when you put the lowest setting in the bios...so set one setting higher plz...

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/p...eadingscl8.jpg
08-07-2008, 10:38 PM
mathewgx

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThugsRook

uninstall it, and the rest of the Asus software, reboot, problem is now fixed :up:

seriously, Asus software is junk, dont bother using it :down:

I agree , but it is a solution for decreasing power usage , the only one i know. I could use epu 6 engine , but unfortunately it works only when not overclocking.
08-07-2008, 10:55 PM
ThugsRook

Quote:

Originally Posted by mathewgx

I agree , but it is a solution for decreasing power usage , the only one i know. I could use epu 6 engine , but unfortunately it works only when not overclocking.

actually, the bios' AUTO AI OVERCLOCKING itself does a fair amount of variable rate clocking/volting if ya wanted to go that way. even at a minimum you could enable C1E to auto lower your multiplier.

:shrug:
08-08-2008, 12:07 AM
Seanie's Show

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottk

What's actual vPLL if it's set to AUTO? Does it default to 1.5 actual or overvolt as well?

It is documented in this thread somewhere, but I dont expect anyone to go through 93 pages of posts looking for it, but below is a test run by jVIDIA on the volatges manually set to minimum, or on auto, this is why everyone is saying set it manually but at least 1 setting higher than the minimum, cos the PLL on its own on Auto or set to 1.50v in the bios wacks a massive 1.82v though. :smoke:

jVIDIA voltage readings:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=951

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