Bud, you got 26MHz on him. Back it down to 3250 and you'll probably get almost exactly the same time as him more or less. I'll wager 18.78. Not too shabby at all for 4-4-4-4 vs 4-3-2-4 optimized, doncha think? ;)
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Bud, you got 26MHz on him. Back it down to 3250 and you'll probably get almost exactly the same time as him more or less. I'll wager 18.78. Not too shabby at all for 4-4-4-4 vs 4-3-2-4 optimized, doncha think? ;)
Bud, I wasn't trying to show him up at all.....now how much you willing to wager? :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gautam
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Ah what do you know... it is 3250 ;)
I was going to go on DI this weekend after I flash to 1.03C. Stephen you said you had no probs getting into the bios and windows with 1.03C right? I won't be doint the T-Core mod if that's the case. Hopefully Gautam you are right and my ram will be okay at 4-4-4-12.
Yep, I didn't have any probs, but supposedly there seems to be a range of temps where the bios will still bug....I was booting @ ~ -110C evap.....Quote:
Originally Posted by gocchin
Never said you were...ya got me though. I guess a tenth of a second is a large margin by our standards here. :(
:toast: NP...btw, my setup's FAR from optimized. No windows tweaks or any real tricks. Just point, click, and run :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gautam
Why not just pull the pot off the chip? :p: I had problems getting into bios before installing 103C. I got the infamous "blue-line-at-the-bottom-blinking-cursor-in-the-top-left-corner-syndrome". I eventually learned just to set everything in bios BEFORE even turning the evap on and then hope that would do. It's not what I'd consider convenient.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gautam
I've been meaning to install win2k3, but I wanted to take a couple of stabs @ 3dMark so the setup was running XPSp2...
I had problems with 1.03C and DI. It wasn't smooth at all. It literally took me 6 hours of benching to pull up to those speeds after repeatedly crashing and stuff. BIOS wasn't the issue, it problem lay in booting into windows. Whenever it was subzero for me, it would show up as "125 C/1f" in BIOS and would just restart instead of going into windows, at which point I'd need to wait with the pot empty for about 20-30 minutes (yes, you read right) and the system running in BIOS, for temps to creep up high enough. :-/ Yes, there were plenty of times when I wished the damn thing just put out more heat...or that the board weren't so finicky.Quote:
Originally Posted by gocchin
Work on shaving the secondary timings down. I have no idea how to run em on 2 gig sets but I'm sure there will be massive gains. My guess is you're running an obscenely high tRFC...it seems like all DDR2 is speced to it.
Stephen, you got some slick timings for sure. I find Windows utterly untweakable for pi on these boards. Any reg tweaks or whatever would just hurt the score. :-/ Virgin Win2k3 is what I found the quickest...and what I take it you're using.
Hmmmmm....that was cool :wth: I must be psychic.....:D
Yep, thats the stupid thing. On 1.03B I had that crap. Cursor BS while trying to get into BIOS, BUT it WOULD get into windows. 1.03C was the opposite. COme to think of it though, it would be more convenient to use 1.03B and set everything before hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Pot was frozen tight onto the chip. Scared me to pull anything like that especially with no IHS. I started dumping the acetone out and running a hair dryer through it, which was also far less than optimal.
Looks like I'll prep the bench rig tomorrow and install a fresh 2k3 instead of XP. I guess I will have to try that memset thing out since that's what it seems like everyone is using... I should check with Denny what kind of secondary timings this set of ram can do. :)
I'm definitely an intel noob but this point and click = fast scores is pretty fun... though I may be changing my mind this weekend if the board does not cooperate with me ;)
You caught me in one of my attempts to dodge the "last edited by" thingie. :doh: Musta succeeded with it a hundred times in the past, you sure are making me look bad tonight. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Gocchin, btw if you can get LN2 it would be preferable here. It seems like DI falls into this window of :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:iness on this board which both normal SS and LN2 (and Stephens autocascade I'd assume) seem to evade...
Too bad my single stage needs a recharge or I'd try it. No LN2 around here for me unfortunately but I've been pretty good at controlling DI so that will have to suffice at least for this weekend. This setup is becoming my silent desktop soon... I might be on conroe next week for benching (if I can track down a damn mobo!!) :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Gautam
Don't even worry about it...I'm confident you'll end up hating this board as much as the rest of us do rather quickly :D Also....there's always the T-core mod, although it really didnt' do much for me besides allowing for temperature adjustment while on air :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by gocchin
Sorry guys for the no updates..
will update this evening :)
Damn I hate this board. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
I ran an 18min 32m on air. Then switched to dry ice and all kinds of funky things started happening... first I wouldn't post at all. Then it started posting and I could get in the bios. Getting into windows is hit and miss. I have the mousepot sitting on the Yonah with no mounting at all... just it's weight. Whenever I get into windows stable... it doesn't hold the OC I set in the bios... goes back to 13x200... :confused:
Taking a break now as the board is getting a little wet.
HAHAHAHA...Welcome to our hell :devil:Quote:
Originally Posted by gocchin
lol...we DID warn ya. You'll be all right. Since you're taking a break, empty the pot fully. Acetone and all. Make sure its nice and hot. Start up the system with nothing but acetone (or whatever medium youre using- no DICE) Start up at 13x200, no more no less, with everything that you want set set in BIOS. (You can use memset to change everything but CAS) Then, ONLY once you're in Windows, starting adding DICE.Quote:
Originally Posted by gocchin
Are you guys clocking in the bios or with clockgen? Pot is drying up now :).
Don't use clockgen if your voltages are fluctuating a lot or if you're going simply for high fsb. I boot @ 13x275 and then usually clockgen to 13x284 and work from there. Aopen's utility allows you to push the FSB on the cpu with very little Vcore fluctuation as opposed to clockgen - which causes the vcore to dip quite a bit more (sometimes causing lock-ups). But I'm just too impatient to OC with a remote control at times :wth:Quote:
Originally Posted by gocchin
My problem now is, whatever I set the fsb at in the bios doesn't hold booting into windows. It drops back to 200.Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
I do notice quite a bit of vcore fluctuation....
Showoff. :pQuote:
I boot @ 13x275 and then usually clockgen to 13x284
I was never able to do high boots on DI, because of my method of booting hot. At temps cold enough to get me into the 270's, I wouldn't have been able to get into Windows.
It's either the very extreme autocascade temps or the tcore mod that's enabling Stephen to do so...but I'll let him field that one.
IMHO, only use the remote control and nothing else to OC. Very irritating, but effective.
How are you setting the FSB in bios if you can't enter it? The mobo will do that to me every once in awhile as well. I think it may not be able to handle the FSB set or it's just being picky at the time. TBH, I think you may need to do the tcore mod as it sounds like your bios may be having issues with the temps.Quote:
Originally Posted by gocchin
@ Gautam: I'm not sure what it is that allows me to boot at that FSB. For the record, I've reached 290 fsb with my autocascade OFF and temps @ ~-50C :p:
It's not the FSB, it's the temperature I'm curious about. I had severe difficulty booting at anything subzero. Mike says that LN2 temps are no problem, neither are SS temps, it's just DI that falls into a miserable spot.
But your autocascade turned off should get temps very similar to the ones I had...hrmmm...